Apocalypse
Ayin.M Lyrics
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On the verge of our own annihilation
Tattered shreds under one divided nation
Its a Never-ending night of the living dead
lunatics runnin 'round Outta their heads
We're fallin
no conscience
We're pulseless
A lunatic apocalypse
A lunatic apocalypse
We're all breaking down
Scattered all around
Victims of our own lunatic apocalypse
Its all an Eye for an eye, with no hesitation
digging holes of unwoke Devastation
In a wasteland imploding from within
Trigger finger with a gun always Loaded
We're falling
Mindless
Destruction
As we're standing on the edge of a lunatic apocalypse
A lunatic apocalypse
A lunatic apocalypse
We're all breaking down
Scattered all around
Victims of our own lunatic apocalypse
Ah…
We're fallin off the edge
We fall
Were fallin
Were fallin
Were fallin
As we're standing on the edge of a lunatic apocalypse
A lunatic apocalypse
A lunatic apocalypse
We're all breaking down
Scattered all around
Victims of our own lunatic apocalypse
The lyrics of Ayin.M's song "Apocalypse" convey a sense of impending doom and chaos. The song begins by describing a society on the brink of annihilation, symbolized by a divided nation and tattered remnants. The night is described as never-ending, indicating a relentless cycle of destruction. The word "lunatics" is used to describe the people in this scenario, suggesting a loss of rationality and control. They are depicted as running around in a state of madness, completely disconnected from reality.
The chorus emphasizes the dire situation, stating that they are on the edge of a "lunatic apocalypse." This phrase is repeated to emphasize the severity of the impending disaster. The use of the word "pulseless" suggests a lack of humanity and empathy in this society. They are described as breaking down and scattered all around, victims of their own destructive tendencies.
The second verse continues to depict a society driven by vengeance and destruction. The phrase "eye for an eye" alludes to the cycle of violence and retaliation. The image of digging holes of devastation represents the irreversible and self-inflicted damage caused by this society. The wasteland is described as imploding from within, indicating a collapse from internal conflicts. The loaded trigger finger symbolizes the constant presence of danger and violence.
The chorus is repeated, reinforcing the sense of the impending apocalypse. It suggests that the individuals in this society are unable to halt the destructive path they are on. The final lines of the song express the desperation and inevitability of their downfall, with repeated phrases emphasizing their continued descent into chaos and devastation.
Overall, the lyrics of "Apocalypse" paint a bleak picture of a society on the verge of destruction. The song portrays the consequences of division, vengeance, and irrationality, leading to a state of complete collapse.
Line by Line Meaning
On the verge of our own annihilation
We are close to completely destroying ourselves.
Tattered shreds under one divided nation
Our nation is torn apart and in ruins.
Its a Never-ending night of the living dead
We are trapped in a perpetual state of chaos and destruction.
lunatics runnin 'round Outta their heads
Crazy people are running around without any thought or reason.
We're fallin
We are descending into chaos and destruction.
no conscience
Without any sense of right or wrong.
We're pulseless
There is no life or energy within us.
As we're standing on the edge of a lunatic apocalypse
We are teetering on the brink of a complete and utter catastrophe.
A lunatic apocalypse
A chaotic and destructive end.
We're all breaking down
We are all falling apart mentally and emotionally.
Scattered all around
We are disorganized and separated.
Victims of our own lunatic apocalypse
We are suffering the consequences of our own mad actions.
Its all an Eye for an eye, with no hesitation
We seek revenge without any hesitation or consideration.
digging holes of unwoke Devastation
We are causing immense destruction without being aware or conscious of it.
In a wasteland imploding from within
Our society is collapsing from internal pressures and conflicts.
Trigger finger with a gun always Loaded
We are always ready for violence and conflict.
Mindless
Without any thought or reasoning.
Destruction
The act of causing severe damage.
Ah…
Expressing a deep sigh or realization of the situation.
We're fallin off the edge
We are descending into complete chaos and disaster.
We fall
We are failing and collapsing.
Lyrics © O/B/O DistroKid
Written by: Cameron Carlson, John Cummings Jr.
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Vantase that's it
I don't understand why some people love Roland but hating Ayin, they're in a sense, the same after all.
On one side one of the strongest person in the city, on the other side one of the smartest on the city.
Both knows that the world and those within it is broken and didn't do anything, after all there's nothing to be done.
Both fall in love to a woman who hold hope for this world.
And both lose all of it.
One unleashed its wrath upon the world in the name of vengeance.
One unleashed its sorrow upon its work to end it all.
I wish that he will be back at least one last time in the future, perhaps just to see what kind of forest will his daughter birth open this world.
Hans Zhou
@Sopsy Let's address things in order, shall we?
>what he was doing was not out of any reason to protect himself or get what he wants. Not out of any conviction, motivation or faith that is his.
No, he absolutely did have faith- that is, in Carmen and what she could do. Again, if you feel like that's her motivation and not anyone's else- sure, whatever, but the argument that Ayin doesn't have any any motivation, conviction or faith whatsoever- that's just false. Without that conviction, Ayin would never have bothered putting the Sephirah and himself through L Corp for ten thousand years- he had conviction and motivation in spades. He just recognized that as he was, he couldn't complete his/Carmen's dreams- and thusly, created other personalities of himself to do what he couldn't.
>That's the big issue, he did horrible things (arguably more horrible than the others, imo killing is less bad than near endless loops of torturing people) and he did not even have any values.
I... huh? What are you on about? One of the main points made in LoR is that it doesn't matter how much pain someone goes through compared to others or how much blood drenches their hands compared to others- it's still blood and it's still pain. And he didn't have any values? Sure he did- Carmen's dreams. That's his value. Dispute it if you wish on how good it is, but it's absolutely a value.
>A spineless maniac, and a massive asshole at that (he looked down on all of his friends except for carmen, created an AI based off of carmen and then treated it like shit, and then put it through a million years of ever repeating torture and mental degradation)
Which he also put himself through, as a friendly reminder. People often talk about how 'oh, Ayin made the Sephirah and Angela suffer'- but let's not forget that Ayin also suffered in L Corp. How many 'Managers', I wonder, went insane seeing CENSORED? How many of himself did he have witness and remember Carmen's death again and again- how many of himself did he hang himself over and over again- Ayin suffered as much as most of the Sephirah did during the events of Lobotomy Corporation- and only Angela can claim to have suffered more.
On the asshole front- fair, but that's like the least compelling argument in the world as to why he sucks. Half the characters in LoR and LC were massive assholes as well, so I've never found that a compelling argument.
>He's also extremely unethical, even to his own standards. He continues Carmen's project in a way that directly violates her (he removes her nervous system and uses it to extract abnormalities) and her morals (Carmen attempted to die after 1 death occurred because she did not want to hurt anyone in her project. Ayin hurts as much people as he can) The creation of Angela was unethical by city standards, betraying his own "morals" (if you could call it that, he just hated machines, and that is the only moral compass we know for him)
You are, of course, choosing to ignore literally every bit of context possible for this, which I will admit, is impressive in its owon right. He continues Carmen's project because it's all he has left- like Roland, who slaughtered his way through the streets and broke a Finger as the Black Silence and killed innocents- like Argalia, who went mad and created the Reverberation Ensemble- Ayin clung to the only thing he could and tried to finish Carmen's dream.
And, uh, to be blunt, I've never really bought into the whole 'Carmen is a saint' thing, ever since the True Ending of LoR and Carmen being directly responsible for Distortions and being linked to Whitenight. Sephirah detected, I suppose.
Also, there's something vaguely hilarious about 'oh yeah, Carmen never wanted to hurt anyone', when Forsaken Murderer exists. When Nothing There was explicitly extracted by Carmen from someone to give to Kali- and when you draw the lines of the Twelve Apostles and Whitenight and the Sephirah and Carmen herself... well, Carmen looks extraordinarily sinister, doesn't she?
Ayin didn't 'hurt as many people as he could'- he hurt exactly as many as he needed to. The Sephirah and their agents and clerks and himself- and Angela, because someone needed to ensure that the Seed of Light would germinate. He calculated the end route- and he executed it. Reset after reset after reset- he put himself and everyone else through hell in hopes of achieving the Seed.
There's something hilarious about the fact that you're falling back on the City's ethics out of all things- because the City doesn't have ethics. The City has a bunch of arbitrary-as-all-fuck rules that they treat equally seriously- friendly reminder that in Angela's Bad Ending, she gets upgraded to a Star of the City because in becoming human- the Head's completely fine with her now. Slaughtering thousands every day? That's fine. Staying as a machine and choosing to abandon your revenger in hopes of breaking the cycle? You're an AI, it's time for you to fucking die.
>Roland is a charming, funny guy who did bad stuff after losing it all, and then was humble and worked into being a better person. Ayin is spineless asshole who did horrible things to everyone close to him and held no real values himself.
So we're just going to ignore the entire ending of LoR in which Ayin goes out of his way to admit that he's wrong and apologizes to Angela and thanks her after all that time when she finally defeats Carmen, and prior to that, saves their asses from Whitenight/Carmen during Hokma as One Sin and Hundreds of Good Deeds and seems to be directly attempting to atone for what he does? And oh, of course, just to make Roland seem like a better choice, we're going to forget that while Ayin did terrible things for a good cause (germinating the Seed), Roland did his shit purely out of vengeance and still went through trying to kill Angela after she became human?
Again, Roland and Ayin serve as contrasts for a reason- both of them lost their loved ones and went mad doing so. Both of them thought the world of their loved ones and were devastated by their deaths. But whereas Roland chose to embrace vengeance- Ayin, as Binah- who fucking hated him in the first game, by the way- stated- kept his eyes firmly locked on the future, in spite of everything that had happened. Saying that 'one of them is a spineless coward' is just blatantly untrue, seeing as even Binah respects him by Library of Ruina in spite of despising him in Lobotomy Corporation.
Antares
Ayin is my favorite character in this universe. So it's a relief he is not forgotten...
"Trust in A, for he is our savior who shall lead us all".
P. S. This hairband is Ayin's present to Carmen that she cherished very much. The character on it is called Kkomi.
P. P. S. After watching the video, I can't stop thinking about how wonderful it would be if the entire Lobotomy corp's plot was voiced.
Ridlay
This feels like something they wanted to do for a while, but they just didn't have the money for when making LobCorp.
It was incredible and now my eyes are all teary.
datenshi zero
It also kinda makes sense lore-wise.
For most other Days (except Day 10 start) and Sephirah dialogues, the cognition filter's active. The prime candidates for a "remake" would be Day 50 (X and A are fully synchronized, can turn off the filter) and the 100% end, which we already got in LoR.
Also, imagine finally finishing Day 49, clicking "Proceed to next day", then seeing this video instead of the expected story section...
Edit: just noticed PM's cheeky capitalization of "You are A (giant)".
Seriously, PM should add a disclaimer for new players to steer away from their channel to avoid spoilers.
Daisuke Akihito
It's wonderful that even with the ending the game presents you or this, the feeling you get from it remains the same, the final release from an endless cycle and moving on to something greater. I know Angela vehemently insists Ayin did everything for his own selfish desire to finish the project, I like to think every single sephirah and its supression changed something in him along the way and very much like it was during the final few days, it was them who gave him all the answers he needed and that he's taken the final step, not just for him, not for Carmen, but for all of them as well.
Vantase that's it
I don't understand why some people love Roland but hating Ayin, they're in a sense, the same after all.
On one side one of the strongest person in the city, on the other side one of the smartest on the city.
Both knows that the world and those within it is broken and didn't do anything, after all there's nothing to be done.
Both fall in love to a woman who hold hope for this world.
And both lose all of it.
One unleashed its wrath upon the world in the name of vengeance.
One unleashed its sorrow upon its work to end it all.
I wish that he will be back at least one last time in the future, perhaps just to see what kind of forest will his daughter birth open this world.
R.I.T. Random Interesting Thing
@ItsA Skullie seriously, where the hell are the lot of you got this lore? i dont remember this topic in the game
Ignitedrowlets
@Hans Zhou well said, I honestly don't get why people just ignore all the context around A's actions and character, and just call him an asshole.
And even if Angela was treated good, and they somehow found a way to create the light with less suffering, the moment Angela was created the script was the only way forward.
Because the head are TERRIFYINGLY quick to act on people who break one of the city's taboos, and would have most likely brought L Corp down if Angela wasn't pushed away from being a kind person. Now if this ever crossed A and B minds when setting things up, I can't say, but that's just my 2 cents on the matter.
Hans Zhou
@Sopsy Let's address things in order, shall we?
>what he was doing was not out of any reason to protect himself or get what he wants. Not out of any conviction, motivation or faith that is his.
No, he absolutely did have faith- that is, in Carmen and what she could do. Again, if you feel like that's her motivation and not anyone's else- sure, whatever, but the argument that Ayin doesn't have any any motivation, conviction or faith whatsoever- that's just false. Without that conviction, Ayin would never have bothered putting the Sephirah and himself through L Corp for ten thousand years- he had conviction and motivation in spades. He just recognized that as he was, he couldn't complete his/Carmen's dreams- and thusly, created other personalities of himself to do what he couldn't.
>That's the big issue, he did horrible things (arguably more horrible than the others, imo killing is less bad than near endless loops of torturing people) and he did not even have any values.
I... huh? What are you on about? One of the main points made in LoR is that it doesn't matter how much pain someone goes through compared to others or how much blood drenches their hands compared to others- it's still blood and it's still pain. And he didn't have any values? Sure he did- Carmen's dreams. That's his value. Dispute it if you wish on how good it is, but it's absolutely a value.
>A spineless maniac, and a massive asshole at that (he looked down on all of his friends except for carmen, created an AI based off of carmen and then treated it like shit, and then put it through a million years of ever repeating torture and mental degradation)
Which he also put himself through, as a friendly reminder. People often talk about how 'oh, Ayin made the Sephirah and Angela suffer'- but let's not forget that Ayin also suffered in L Corp. How many 'Managers', I wonder, went insane seeing CENSORED? How many of himself did he have witness and remember Carmen's death again and again- how many of himself did he hang himself over and over again- Ayin suffered as much as most of the Sephirah did during the events of Lobotomy Corporation- and only Angela can claim to have suffered more.
On the asshole front- fair, but that's like the least compelling argument in the world as to why he sucks. Half the characters in LoR and LC were massive assholes as well, so I've never found that a compelling argument.
>He's also extremely unethical, even to his own standards. He continues Carmen's project in a way that directly violates her (he removes her nervous system and uses it to extract abnormalities) and her morals (Carmen attempted to die after 1 death occurred because she did not want to hurt anyone in her project. Ayin hurts as much people as he can) The creation of Angela was unethical by city standards, betraying his own "morals" (if you could call it that, he just hated machines, and that is the only moral compass we know for him)
You are, of course, choosing to ignore literally every bit of context possible for this, which I will admit, is impressive in its owon right. He continues Carmen's project because it's all he has left- like Roland, who slaughtered his way through the streets and broke a Finger as the Black Silence and killed innocents- like Argalia, who went mad and created the Reverberation Ensemble- Ayin clung to the only thing he could and tried to finish Carmen's dream.
And, uh, to be blunt, I've never really bought into the whole 'Carmen is a saint' thing, ever since the True Ending of LoR and Carmen being directly responsible for Distortions and being linked to Whitenight. Sephirah detected, I suppose.
Also, there's something vaguely hilarious about 'oh yeah, Carmen never wanted to hurt anyone', when Forsaken Murderer exists. When Nothing There was explicitly extracted by Carmen from someone to give to Kali- and when you draw the lines of the Twelve Apostles and Whitenight and the Sephirah and Carmen herself... well, Carmen looks extraordinarily sinister, doesn't she?
Ayin didn't 'hurt as many people as he could'- he hurt exactly as many as he needed to. The Sephirah and their agents and clerks and himself- and Angela, because someone needed to ensure that the Seed of Light would germinate. He calculated the end route- and he executed it. Reset after reset after reset- he put himself and everyone else through hell in hopes of achieving the Seed.
There's something hilarious about the fact that you're falling back on the City's ethics out of all things- because the City doesn't have ethics. The City has a bunch of arbitrary-as-all-fuck rules that they treat equally seriously- friendly reminder that in Angela's Bad Ending, she gets upgraded to a Star of the City because in becoming human- the Head's completely fine with her now. Slaughtering thousands every day? That's fine. Staying as a machine and choosing to abandon your revenger in hopes of breaking the cycle? You're an AI, it's time for you to fucking die.
>Roland is a charming, funny guy who did bad stuff after losing it all, and then was humble and worked into being a better person. Ayin is spineless asshole who did horrible things to everyone close to him and held no real values himself.
So we're just going to ignore the entire ending of LoR in which Ayin goes out of his way to admit that he's wrong and apologizes to Angela and thanks her after all that time when she finally defeats Carmen, and prior to that, saves their asses from Whitenight/Carmen during Hokma as One Sin and Hundreds of Good Deeds and seems to be directly attempting to atone for what he does? And oh, of course, just to make Roland seem like a better choice, we're going to forget that while Ayin did terrible things for a good cause (germinating the Seed), Roland did his shit purely out of vengeance and still went through trying to kill Angela after she became human?
Again, Roland and Ayin serve as contrasts for a reason- both of them lost their loved ones and went mad doing so. Both of them thought the world of their loved ones and were devastated by their deaths. But whereas Roland chose to embrace vengeance- Ayin, as Binah- who fucking hated him in the first game, by the way- stated- kept his eyes firmly locked on the future, in spite of everything that had happened. Saying that 'one of them is a spineless coward' is just blatantly untrue, seeing as even Binah respects him by Library of Ruina in spite of despising him in Lobotomy Corporation.
Thaumoking
@Sopsy Ayin is extremely flawed, and it is true he holds no real vaules himself, but I wouldnt say he is a spineless asshole
I remember it being stated that its not that Ayin hates machines, but rather he essentially got uncanny valley'd by Angela, with her being so close to Carmen but not quite the same, which is why he would rather have her act like an actual machine. That obviously doesnt remove the fact she treated her less than poorly, its just something to take into account I think.
Doing horrible things to everyone close to him... well, L Corp's singularity is all about the mind, so it makes sense even if its horrible. Could he had done that to himself only? Well no. As you said, he has no actual values, he is no saint or anything. He is flawed, and so needed the help of those around him, even after their death.
He did look down on most if not all of his friends. Well, he did before the events of LC. Thats pretty much what the Core Supressions are, are they not? The Sephirot learning the things they lack, Ayin learning from them and coming to appreciate them.
The only thing he held faith in was Carmen and her goal and if you ask me, that is short of respectable since, as he says in this very video, would have otherwise turned a blind eye to the problem like everyone else in the city.
He did betray her vision of how to get to said goal, but tbh, its the City we are talking about. I doubt there would have been any other way in this setting. And as Hokma says, he didnt mind carrying the guilt of it all if it meant ending it all. He didnt do it thinking "Since I am doing the right thing, I will be forgiven", no. He did it despite that so he would be the only one to blame but everyone else could be saved
So yes, Roland and Ayin are extremely different, and Ayin has done horrible things and messed up a bunch of stuff in ways that were not neccesary. But Ayin knew what he was doing was unforgivable, yet did it because it needed to be done. And I think that has value
Sopsy
Also some points to the conversation that people got wrong
-Angela cannot "just leave" as in, she says in LoR that her robot body couldn't leave the facility which is why wanted to become human with the light to be able to live a free life.
-Ayin knew Angela was sentient. He made her knowing she was sentient (her AI was even based off of a brain scan from Carmen) and he knew he broke the ethics laws when he made a sentient AI. His plan needed a human to act like a machine, so he made a machine that was essentially human and put her through hell.
-Ayin didn't give a shit about Angela because he hates machines. It is well established that he hates machines and hates that he made one, but did so unethically none the less
-The library isn't the physical corp building upside down or anything close to that. The library is a whole new building made where the corp once stood (likely above branch X, but branch X was deep underground and not the only "branch" in HQ. How exactly it is made and how the fog was made im not sure but i assume she used the light to do so
Antares
Ayin is my favorite character in this universe. So it's a relief he is not forgotten...
"Trust in A, for he is our savior who shall lead us all".
P. S. This hairband is Ayin's present to Carmen that she cherished very much. The character on it is called Kkomi.
P. P. S. After watching the video, I can't stop thinking about how wonderful it would be if the entire Lobotomy corp's plot was voiced.