For the past twenty-eight years, Geoff Kaufman (geoffkaufman.com) has been … Read Full Bio ↴For the past twenty-eight years, Geoff Kaufman (geoffkaufman.com) has been leading audiences to find truth, humor, and beauty in folk music. Whether singing sailor songs with his quartet, Forebitter; or environmental songs on board the Sloop Clearwater in the Hudson River; or in solo performances at coffeehouses throughout the Northeast United States and festivals in Europe, Geoff has entertained and touched audiences near and far.

Songs of the sea, songs of the earth, songs of the heart and the spirit—all of these are in Geoff Kaufman's ditty bag. Ancient ballads, work songs, and songs of love; poignant songs of people in struggle, humorous glimpses of human foibles, and insights into history—all of these are likely to be woven into one of Geoff's concerts.

Above all, at the core of Geoff's performance is his rich tenor voice and an exuberant love of singing. And part of that love is to entice audiences to sing along, to share in the exhilaration of full-throated vocalization if they wish. In this age of electronic overload and passive media pabulum, Geoff likes to stress the "live" in live performance, promoting participation, be it by voice or heart or mind.

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@bimmjim

@AFGalawayz
Lee Smolin is one of the top 5 Theoretical Physicists in the World today and he says - "Maybe not all the Universe is accessible by the Scientific Method."
I agree with him on that.
However, when I worked as an Engineer I trusted other people's lives to the Method all the time. We all trust our lives to what we see with our eyes which is called Objective Observation.(Step #1) . We do this all day, every day. It's as simple as looking both ways before crossing the street.
In another case, I am almost absolutely sure that there will be gravity tomorrow, so I won't chain my car down.
Will this second be followed by another? Not necessarily but it is safe to assume so.
I don't use the word "believe" because it is, in common usage, ridiculous.
I have discussed this a lot in Philosophy and when somebody asks me "What do you believe in?" I answer this way - "I think it is safe to assume that Life is the most valuable thing in the Universe."
Hows that?

@reverendrv151

The Faith Theorem ~ by Reverend RV

Hebrews 11:1 KJV; Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

Faith is like a Theorem. ~ Merriam-Webster defines Theorem as “a formula or statement that can be proved from other formulas or statements” Wikpedia says; ‘Formal theorems consist of formulas of a formal language and the transformation rules of a formal system. A formal theorem is always the last formula of a derivation in some formal system; each formula being the “logical consequence” of the formulas that came before it in the derivation. The initially accepted formulas in the derivation are called its axioms, and are the basis on which the theorem is derived. A set of theorems is called a theory. What makes formal theorems useful and of interest is that they can be interpreted as true propositions; their derivations may be interpreted as a proof of the truth of the resulting expression’

But you ask, “Why is this significant?” Theorems are substantial evidence in bridging the gaps of many Scientific Theories. Our Bible verse tells us that Faith is substantial evidence too! When I discuss Theism with an Atheist, they often do not respect Faith and give no credence to it. But when I suggest to them Faith has the exact same qualities that Theorem has, it takes them a while to chew on it before they will come to an uneasy agreement with me that Faith is like a Theorem. “Why do you call it an ‘uneasy agreement’?” The reason I say this is because I have previously gotten them to allow this premise; ‘none of us are all knowing’. Thus they concede they can’t Omnisciently rule out the existence of God. Because the Atheist and I agree on this point, we have our starting blocks for an honest debate. The Atheist then brings their evidence and builds on that with Theorems. As a Christian I bring my evidence and build on that with Faith. The gaps are bridged by ‘logical consequences of the formulas that came before it in derivation’. ~ I have a saying; “Some need little evidence in order to have great Faith, but some need great evidence in order to have little Faith.” One may look at Theism and see the gap as a creek which they can bound and cross; another may look at Theism and see the gap as so expansive they would need a Golden Gate Bridge. But if we all begin at the place where we admit we can’t know there is not a God, then perhaps axiomatic evidence for the existence of God could shorten the needed bridge significantly, by moving us up the shore to narrower straits. The head of the Mississippi River is at Lake Itasca and it can be crossed at less than 20 meters. Bridging the gap there is much easier than bridging the gap in St Louis…

Since you do not have all knowledge, like Blaise Pascal, why not ask; “What if there is a God?” Christians hold that the Bible is evidence for God and this is supported by Theology; the ‘Queen of the Sciences’. The Bible tells us that there is no one who is good; have you ever stolen anything? If God Judges you, would you be innocent or guilty? God’s prison is Hell; but you don’t need to go there. Jesus Christ lived a life without Sin and died on the Cross to rise from the dead. If you put your Faith in him as your Lord and Savior; as God he will graciously forgive your Sins. You can wager with Pascal that since we do not ‘know’ there isn’t a God, as rational people we should live as if there were a God. Do you trust Theorems? Then we ask for the common courtesy; trust Jesus through Faith today! Read the Bible and find a Church which will provide you with their axioms…

Hebrews 11:6 KJV; And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.

All comments from YouTube:

@fozzletink

13y

wow , i really enjoyed the panel section of this video . lots of really fascinating ideas and technologies that could be in our near or distant future were thrown about . i am familiar with the drake equation from carl sagan , but it's really cool to finally see the person who made that equation in here . awesom talk , seti ! =D

@quantumcat7673

4y↑2

The universe is so big that the hypotheses that we could be the only civilization in it is untenable.

@LuciFeric137

Worth a listen for Dr. Drake. Godspeed Frank.

@SETIInstitute

12y

This is a good point - although we don't know how 'calm' things have been on Europa and we also don't know if life originated in hydrothermal vents or if it just retreated there ...

@SETIInstitute

13y↑1

@Zurround100 Thanks Zurround! We have some very cool guests coming up, too!

@idanieltube

13y

@Zurround100 I feel the same about Rob Dunbar's TED talk!

@ryang790

Does anybody know what direction our nearest other star alpha centerui is in? is it towards the galactic centre, further out or along the plain? thanks.

@SETIInstitute

13y

@skyblazer7 Thanks for your thoughtful comment SkyBlazer.

@bartkuiper315

11y

Good point! but....... i've seen a documantary about extremofiles and they seem to have a tree of life signature that let's you see a descent from common ancestry and they seem to have originated at hot places, for the earliest extremofiles are those from hot places like volcano's and cracks in the earth maybe this happened during the period of heavy bombardment and that would mean that some other harsh planets could also harbour life , But actually i thought the sam as you about the subject

@skyblazer7

13y

Not to argue with Frank Drake, but life on rogue planets would not be entirely in the dark. I spend a few weeks a year deep in the Arizona desert where I observe the summer galaxy, the Milky Way. The light of our galaxy, thought not as substantial as the Sun, gives off a good deal of light. Indeed, so much that it actually casts a detectable shadow. BTW this was a fantastic and extremely informative presentation....most surprising was the discovery of multi-celled life deep in the crust.

@quinto190

I disagree about the use of space solar power. What most people don't seem to know, is that the atmosphere is full of life. For families of organisms which propagate by spores (fungi, lichens, moss, ferns, many bacteria and protozoa) it is the primary route of spreading, also for many plants, insects and other small animals. Microorganisms were found basically all the way to space.
The microwave beams or lasers necessary to transmit energy from space could effect a large volume of the atmosphere.
Killing spores in large quantities could mean diminished ability of the biosphere to break down organic matter, to colonize open spaces (soil, rocks, volcanic islands) and slow down the growth of plants everywhere because of missing symbionts (fungi).

@omma911

12y

My point was probably not so good on second thought. You are right, we have no idea where life has originated. Maybe all it does take is just some heat and the right ingredients. I always have this picture in my mind with a calm sea, barren islands, bright sunlight and some green slime floating in waves. ;)

@SETIInstitute

13y

@pry080513 Thanks Pry! Glad you like them, feel free to send the link to a friend. :-)

@stevehalbers

11y

Although we can expect a technologically advanced civilization to use some means of communication other than radio waves (something we can't even imagine) it is a comforting thought that maybe this civilisation will deliberately transmit a signal using "primitive" radio waves that we can easily detect, as an encouragement to developing species such as ourselves.

@Godscountry2732

13y

At some time,we will detect a alien earth like planet,when ?who knows,but this is so interesting,keep posting,thank you

@omma911

12y

Yes, you are probably right. I have always thought that life would take the easy route and not the hardest. Probably under the misconception that evolution has the ability to choose. Of course extremophiles could have been the first ones to emerge, and later gave up some of their extreme abilities to focus more on photosynthesis for whatever beneficial reasons. But is life really more than chemistry? I believe its just one successful experiment after a billion failures.

@bimmjim

8y↑1

"to believe in" is a verb.
The Scientific Method is s a series of steps.
There is no step in the Scientific Method called - "believe in."

@AFGalwayz

do you believe in the scientific method?

@bimmjim

@ihatealigators

10y↑16

goddamn these vids bring out the crazies in the comments

@thatdutchguy2882

@@4gegtyreeyuyeddffvyt It's never Aliens.

@TechNed

What about crocs?

@quantumquestthebillionaire1527

5y↑2

@@TechNed Sorry but what has footwear got to do with aliens?????????

@TechNed

5y↑1

@@quantumquestthebillionaire1527 Took me a little while to recall what I was thinking but then I saw the OP's name.

@omma911

12y

We find life in a lot of hostile environments here on Earth, but why do we expect to find life in places like Europa, places that have always been hostile? Could it not be the case that the formation of life needs a calmer, more friendly environment? Lifeforms we find at black smokers or acid lakes are just descendants of life that formed somewhere else.

@james7167

11y

i actually cannot believe that people still think were the only intelligent life in the universe. if we are the only intelligent life in the whole universe then we have major catastrophic problems

@debeerpaul

12y

I'm very excited about the IR spectrum change if they find funding. I realy hopes the SKA comes to our country.

@ILoveAnchovies334

13y

SETI people are waking up! More and more are realizing we are not alone and have visitors without your approval . It makes you look like a collaborator with

@OlgerJan

13y

Frank Drake sure seems interested in rogue planets

@tonymanero4006

why is this part of the Search of Intelligence? out there somewhere? just get on with it

@polymath7

13y

Look to the right under the "suggestions" column, and scroll down. Is anyone else utterly baffled by this?

@reverendrv151

Mark got a lashing from Jill for saying the word 'Belief'. He should have said he didn't mean it as belief compared to Faith but as belief compared to Theory. Obviously it is a touchy subject to her...

@reverendrv151

@jcruzmatarobles5177

27w↑1

2011...bueno estoy en 2023...pero en 2017...en Fremont California...fotografié .mirando al sol...un cúmulo de esferas formaron el logotipo de seti...completamente real...el sol en el centro y las esferas formando el resto del logo...

@polymath7

13y

Skip to 30:00 (the panel) if you don't want to hear buch of stuff you already know.

@Popperite

8y↑1

2:58 She had concluded scientifically? Come on.... even a journalist should understand that is highly questionable,,,,

@Deagol1000

12y

@Sleepingplanet1 Yeah...if only Weekly World News was a peer-reviewed scientific journal!

@graemej2599

At 19.40 the speaker is talking of 300 billion stars in the Milky Way Galaxy. On the screen is printed the number 300 million million - which is NOT 300 billion. Get the facts and figures correct !

@MrSangos123

11y

What of advanced beings billions of years ahead of us who like the gods communicate with permeating consciousness?....Certainly we have no way of detecting their signals.

@jakejeffery8097

11y

I agree this is ridiculous its not as if there is a overwhelming threat to the us.

@ferdinandawn2555

the real problem or issue is that ..some alliens are very techno advanced and are dangerous? if it is truth we are over..

@mjmcrae1168

Belief in life in the Universe is like faith. Simply because we do not KNOW it’s out there. Presently it’s only taken on faith alone. That sounds like religion to me. It’s funny because many religions folks won’t want to think that we aren’t alone. But I have faith we are not alone.

@asubjectiveopinion

12y↑1

The way things are going on planet Earth maybe we should stop listening and start broadcasting a distress signal.

@tomski787

I think the term "extremophile" is a bit...weII, extreme. To such life, WE are the extremophiles.

@tarsiusbancanus5279

+Tom Foyle Good point, I thought that as well. However we are anthropocentric after all so it makes sense to use names like that. We call hostile environments the way that they are called because they are hostile to us (and probably quite a few other mammals)

@sonotos

12y

Well at least it's not yet clear if that what we now call extremophiles are the "children" and not the "parents". Life give's not too much about our definition of hostile. The chemical system on the jung earth was very diffrent from the environment we have now. For the first liveforms most areas on earth would be now very hostile. If you are interested at the topic you maybe will find here some new impressions: Course | Astrobiology and Space Exploration playlist?list=PLEBEACB2E50D4623B

@WaleedHiggins

A very good question at 60 minutes. Their whole premise is flawed in the search for "technological" advanced life. Our own history shows that this type of civilization is an aberration which came about due to a number of unrepeatable phenomena - the struggle between Christendom and Islam, the discovery of the Americas, the renaissance, the enlightenment, the "age of exploration" and European imperialism, all of which have put us on the path to this unique "technological" society. Otherwise, as our own history shows, civilization does not lead to these things even in societies which are around for centuries. So how could we detect ancient Egyptian of Meso-American type advanced societies as in all likelihood they may be all that is out there.

@jakejeffery8097

11y

If you was to think of all the animals and creatures on earth and only one species is intelligent doesn't that tell you the odds for intelligent life in our galaxy is very minuscule! all the things that have to fall in to place, Id love to think there is intelligent life in our universe but am uncertain that that is the case. I 100% believe there is primitive life though as around 66 billion out of 300 billion (due to my rough calculations) are within the habitibtal zone.

@monoham1

13y

19:20 where are you getting these figures? 100 000 stars? nobody EVER thought that youtube.com/watch?v=JWVshkVF0SY

@SETIInstitute

12y

Yes it's currently about 0.5% of the Federal budget.

@franalford202

SETI Institute thank you for all the information you put out there for us and I need to ask a question on your thoughts abt the new space program that was signed on as our 6th branch of military yesterday . Do you think our current president will make alien contact more aware to the public now and keep us informed of what’s going and possibly contact now?

@USMColdCorps1

At 1:58 he states that 5 years ago he knew nothing about Astro Biology. I didn't make it to 2:00. Dough....

@bartkuiper315

11y

It would be more logical for life to originate at a "nice" place and then creep to the niches from our planet Greetings from the Netherlands, Bart in response to omma 911

@newmac

13y

Perhaps indeed; the scientists could find their funding through the religious community; they have the cash; and might be persuaded to part with it; to find "something higher".....

@ILoveAnchovies334

13y

Get with the times.

@fieldagent59

10y↑1

excellent panel,,Frank Drake is awesome !!!! love hearing him explain things, what a mind........I will dare to mix the two taboo subjects and state my opinion, ... the very fact that mater, energy, dimensional space time and consciousness exists at all, means that their has to be a source, (God) and a design for a purpose. We may never be able to prove this with our abilities to perceive and understand in our present state, but it seems obvious to me that it has to be..everything we perceive did not spring out of nothingness..In my mind, it is virtually impossible that we are the only intelligent life that exists in our Galaxy ...SETI is worth the funding needed compared to all of the other meaningless themes that we spend money on....

@NapoleonJohnson2K-CN

11y

This intellectual conversation about life in the Universe begs the question: Are we Alone(?). This is known by Ancients, and is being discussed by Experts, but with no absolute answer. What if a Lifeform does not exist based on water, but is the creation of stardust, and made of unnatural 'virtual' matter that transforms, and technologically complex. The answer is True & Real. An Alien species exist around us in our Space. Evidences exist. See YouTube video: CUFOx Transformation.

@grzegorzwxx4536

vox univers homo futurus
book - CARL SAGAN - CONTACT

@jackdaw.rdr2

Anyone else think the greys are ai sent here to explore our planet as it’s too far for aliens to travel could be why they all look the same?

@flinchfu

8y↑1

Why won't my video likes and dislikes stick? Is it just on my end?

@nehorlavazapalka

10y

They are already here. It is ridiculous to thik that advanced AIs would shy away from new real estate. Every cubic centimeter of our cosmos is running Windows. That or we are the first ones.

@ungertron

10y

If they were here we would know about it, there are no ten star ET hotels in Hawaii -- Yet. The universe is huge, billions of light years across. I think they will probably find us and visit earth. I just hope it will be in our lifetimes.

@nehorlavazapalka

10y

I can assure you that if they were here (they likely are) we wouldn't have a chance to see them. There are more planck times in the time it takes a photon to cross between two base pairs in DNA than seconds since the big bang. The Planck lenght fits many times more into a neuron than a neuronfits into the entire visible universe. If they exist, they exist at the extremes of physics and technology. We have no chance. It would be doubtful to think that they haven't captured the universe in their industry.

@ungertron

10y

You say they exist in forms that we can't measure or see, how do you know life exists on a sub - quantum level? They would have no need to hide from us in some kind of technological tiny dimension, if there is any such thing. ETs are probably so advanced, compared to us, that we would offer no threat to them. If they are curious about us, like we are curious about new life forms that we find, they are likely to contact us in ways that we understand.

@nehorlavazapalka

10y

from quantum level a single neuron fireing takes 10^40 planck times contrasted to 10^17 s since the big bang. The volume of single synaptic vesicle is bigger than a galaxy. They know us much better than we do.

@guybrushthreepwood549

If they are here, they are not talking to us, and they could. So either they are not allowed to, and wont talk to us. Or do not want to talk to us, and there's nothing we can do. So, if they are really here, until they do a step towards us, it is the same as if they are not here. Because they do not talk to us, and we cant contact them.

In the end, it's like they are not here, even if they are, until they initiate contact. Advanced as they are to be, they just need to park one ship above each of the most massive populated areas on each country and be done with it.

If you do believe they are here (sorry, I dont) then not talking to us is like not being here at all. Deal with it, and live a happy life until they do move, if they do exist.

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@Scofield0085

12y

I heard that the US government spends less than 1% of its annual budget on NASA...and all their related affiliations. I don't remember who said it, but I think it was Neil DeGrasse Tyson. Really pathetic.

@polymath7

13y

@newmac Where do you get the idea that scientists are full of cash?

@yoandrew4886

Isn't it just amazing how all the ingredients came together for us to exists, a big Hand string the pot, its easier to believe than not to believe. I live a rural life, I see every day Gods creations, how wonderful.

@zebonautsmith1541

10y↑1

Perhaps intelligent creatures on a Rogue Planet can see by starlight. Or in the infrared. They might have extremely large "eyes".Maybe they see in the radio spectrum.

@supahacka

12y

the only good news would be finding life way beyond our level of technology and of course "they" woudl rather find us. finding a more primitive form of life would be bad news. if we find 1000 primitive forms of life but not a more advanced form of life we should reconsider the doomsday argument.

@polymath7

13y

@abadubie Who is "we"? Do you mean that this would free up government funds? Or are you one of those free market buffoons who think every thing ought to be privatized?

@MrSangos123

11y↑1

Disagree...much of science is theoritical till it is experimentally proved

@fredrikanderson1115

11y

Thinking Out Side Of The Box,If We Are Looking For Intelligent Life Not Of Earth That Is Probably Different Than Homo Sapiens, Maybe Have Our Closest Living Friends Help Us Choose Were To Look. There Is An Ape At The Portland Oregon Zoo That Has Picked The NBA Champions For The Last 12 Years. Dogs , Dolphins , And Elephants Have Already Helped Us Become The Advanced Civilization We Are . Just A Thought .

@cheesecop9321

47w

Give us more money. If we’re part of NASA we get access to your tax dollars. More money please.

@redventrue1

10y↑2

Is it just me, or did Jill take offence at the idea that she might be supporting a belief?

Seems like a bitter, bitter Athiest to me. Jill, if you've never actually come face to face with a fish before, then your belief in fish is just that.

A belief.

@ihatealigators

10y↑2

Can you take a step back from whatever beefs you have with people who don't believe in God and evaluate what you actually just wrote.

It doesn't take a particularly large amount of familiarity with the science to realize that there being extraterrestrial life is more likely than the alternative. All the ingredients are out there, and the only reason to assume there wouldn't be is because of an anthropocentric assumption of being special.

To take your (and her_ fish example, it's more like living next to one ocean and living off fish and thinking that an ocean on the other side of the world - that you've never seen - probably has fish too. Call that whatever you want, but it's not a belief in the sense you're trying to imply.

@Congruesome

+redventrue1 There isn't a God, and religion is fucking shit. Sensible educated people don't want to be associated with it in any way.

@Spiritof48

11y

Is SETI a Jewish organization ?

@Road38910

This is impossible. Every time an Australian speaks it's like listening to someone yodel.....! The 'Australian Questioning Interchange' is spreading all over the English speaking world. Every statement sounds like a question. It's bloody irritating and an abuse of the English language.