The band released their second studio album on February 24, 2009 entitled Masterpiece Theatre.
It takes some real cojones to include the word 'Masterpiece' in your album title, but Josh Ramsay isn't too worried. "I suppose I could be digging myself into a hole calling the record Masterpiece Theatre," he chuckles, "but it's tongue-in-cheek. And I'm not the kind of person that people would assume as being an egomaniac. I hope not, anyway."
Given his feverish imagination and comprehensive musical gifts, Ramsay could probably get away with a little egomania. And with the release of Masterpiece Theatre, the frontman of Vancouver's Marianas Trench makes a iron-clad case for a prodigious set of talents - both his own and those of his bandmates, guitarist Matt Webb, bassist Mike Ayley, and drummer Ian Casselman.
Marianas Trench had already elevated itself above the rest of the pack with a 2006 debut, Fix Me, that showcased a knack for colouring outside the lines of factory-issue millenial punk, shrewdly-built pop, and super-adrenalized modern rock. The single and in particular the video "Shake Tramp" was enough to demonstrate these qualities, coupled with Ramsay's uninhibited urge to be the complete song-and-dance man.
But with both the industry and the fans beating down the door for a quick second album, the Trench decided to put on the brakes. "All of a sudden you have six months to do your next record," Ramsay sighs. "So I really had to just put my foot down and say, 'No, I need the time to do this.' I was not interested in putting something out for the sake of putting something out."
Two years later, Marianas Trench has re-emerged with Masterpiece Theatre. And not surprisingly, it's a work of soaring ambition and decisive technical prowess – that easily might not have happened. "It's one thing when you're Chad Kroeger and you just finished writing 'How You Remind Me'," Ramsay states. "I didn't have some mega-platinum song to back up my argument with, so I was lucky that the band and the label trusted me enough to do it."
By "it", Ramsay means he was allowed to indulge a high-concept fantasy for the band's sophomore album, which is built, for starters, around a song called "Masterpiece Theatre". Adopting Brian Wilson's notion of the 'pocket symphony' and then running with it, the three distinct versions of “Masterpiece Theatre” dotted across the record feature an almost perfect balance between the vocal theatrics of Queen and the more hymnal qualities of the Beach Boys.
By the time “Masterpiece Theatre” is reprised for a final, climactic time, every other song on the album is quoted and incorporated into an intricately constructed dramatic revue that swings from pristine pop, to propulsive riff rock, to quasi-doo wop, to robotic new wave, and finally into a wholly satisfying thematic payoff.
"You know in the climax of a musical, there's always that medley at the end, and I thought that would be cool on a rock record," explains Ramsay, "but it turned out to be a lot harder than I thought it would be. I wrote it in the studio as we recorded it, and it took about three weeks."
After a beat, he adds, "But really it took me two years because it draws from all the songs on the whole album."
Bassist Mike Ayley readily admits, "I don't think any of the three ‘Masterpiece Theatre’ songs could have gone on Fix Me had they been written at the time. ‘Masterpiece’ 2 and 3 in particular are amazing songs that really explore the potential of Josh's writing. You really have to hear them to get it. It's like trying to explain ‘Bohemian Rhapsody’ to somebody who has only heard Kanye West and Katy Perry."
Ramsay agrees. "I really wanted to have a 'Good Vibrations'/'Bohemian Rhapsody’ style song on the first record,” he says, “but I don't think I was a mature enough writer to have written it yet, and I still feel like I was in over-my-head when we did this one, and I just barely made it."
Ramsay is unnecessarily modest; the whole of Masterpiece Theatre demonstrates a startling compositional maturity compared to the Marianas Trench of two years ago.
"Beside You" is a panoramic exercise in big emotions, with a dash of the Dream Academy's "Life In a Northern Town”. "Acadia" begins with a clipped, bright acoustic guitar, and blossoms into something like the Who reconsidered by U2, reimagined for the net generation. In the crunchy "All to Myself", the power ballad "Lover Dearest", and the strident "Good to You" (in which he duets with Kate Voegele), Ramsay pulls out the kind of honeyed vocals more attuned to modern RnB than white, adolescent rock.
"I always had that aspect in my voice but the first record just didn't have songs that were conducive to me singing that way," he states. "I think it's from growing up listening to a lot of Michael Jackson. With these songs, it made sense to stretch out a little more."
On "Cross My Heart" and "Celebrity Status", the band conjures up a kind of perfect pop crossover. Producer Dave 'Rave' Ogilvie was responsible for the latter track, which cops a move he used on Marilyn Manson's "Beautiful People" with three drummers (Casselman, Ramsay and Shane Wilson) playing at once - much to Ramsay's delight. "He's just worked with so many great artists which makes his well of tricks and ideas so vast," he says.
True to Ramsay's quest for "more diversity on this album" - not to mention the indulgence of his record label - Rave was just one of four prominent guest producers eventually roped into Masterpiece Theatre. Their collective resume includes Nine Inch Nails, Sum 41, Iggy Pop, Avril Lavigne, and Hedley among others.
"I feel really fortunate to have worked with all those guys," Ramsay says, "coz they all bring really unique things. Dave Genn and I have a really good working relationship with each other, and he has such a unique style with arrangement and stuff. Greig Nori was a really pleasant surprise. As far as I can tell, he wanted to work with us because he liked our video. The whole time he was just trying to get me to dance around like an idiot. And Raine Maida, man? Raine's a trip!"
Bassist Ayley also credits Maida for encouraging the band to “find a personality-identity that wasn't as evident when we started the production process," while also praising Ramsay for his production efforts. Ramsay took charge of four songs on the finished record. “Josh is really about capturing the emotion and power which isn't surprising considering all the feeling in the writing,” he says.
Oddly enough, Ramsay also wanted Disney's in-house genius Alan (Little Mermaid) Mencken to twiddle the knobs for the climactic version of "Masterpiece Theatre", but admits, "it's a pretty tall order to get an Academy Award winner to come and work on your record."
Still, the album is certainly not diminished by the few things Ramsay didn't get. And once the world gets a load of this Masterpiece, Mencken, Pharrell Williams, Phil Spector... you name it. They'll probably be lining up.
I Knew You When
Marianas Trench Lyrics
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To a place we don't make sense together anymore
And if you're saying this is the end
Honey, I knew, I knew, I knew you when
The first night in our first place
We ate on the floor while summer twilight ricocheted
And it was easier back then
I've been loving, loving you too long
To just sudden, suddenly move on from this
(I knew you when)
(I, I knew you when)
We shedded, shedded way too much
To just let it, let it make a mess of us
(I knew you when)
I knew, I knew you when
(You)
(You)
(You)
I knew, I knew, I knew you when
(You) I knew you when
(You) I knew you when
(You)
I knew, I knew, I knew you when
A cabin on a rainy coast
Where you said, "Forever's not enough," while we were close
Been many years to now since then
But honey you knew me, knew me, knew me when
I've been loving, loving you too long
To just sudden, suddenly move on from this
(I knew you when)
(I, I knew you when)
We shedded, shedded way too much
To just let it, let it make a mess of us
(I knew you when)
I knew, I knew you when
(You)
(You)
(You)
I knew, I knew, I knew you when
(You) I knew you when
(You) I knew you when
(You)
Yeah, I knew, I knew, I knew you when
I thought time was supposed to heal it
Don't do shit but keep you feelin'
Older, older
I thought time was supposed to heal it
Don't do shit but keep you feelin', oh
I'm sure you're wondering
Is this a new beginning or the start of another end?
But if you wanna try again
Honey, I'll know, I'll know, I'll know you then
Honey, I'll know, I'll know, I'll know you then
(You) yeah
(You) now
(You)
Yeah, I'll know, I'll know, I'll love you then
(You) yeah, I'll love you then
(You) oh, I'll love you then
(You) oh
I'll know, I'll know you then
(I thought time was supposed to heal it)
(Don't do shit but keep you feelin')
I
Yeah, I'll know, I'll know you
(I thought time was supposed to heal it) oh, I'll love you then
(Don't do shit but keep you feelin') oh, I'll love you then
Uh, yeah, yeah
You
You
The chorus of "I Knew You When" by Marianas Trench seems to be a declaration of love to a former partner, and the lyrics recount moments they spent together. The verses describe how the relationship has changed and how they've both been hurt by it. The first verse compares the present to a place they've been before, but where they no longer make sense together. The second verse describes a happier time in their past when life was more carefree and they were more in sync. The bridge hints at the pain caused by the breakup, and the singer's longing to be with their former partner again. The final chorus is a declaration of love for the future, and a desire to try again.
The chorus of "I Knew You When" displays the theme of nostalgia, while the verses cover the themes of love and loss. The song recounts loving someone too much to just let go when things go wrong. The lyrics suggest that the couple has been through a lot of obstacles and has shed a lot of tears, but they are still holding on to the love they once shared. The song leaves room for hope that the couple could try again in the future.
Line by Line Meaning
I've been somewhere like this before
I have experienced something similar before
To a place we don't make sense together anymore
To a situation where we no longer fit together
And if you're saying this is the end
If you are declaring that this is the end
Honey, I knew, I knew, I knew you when
I remember a time when we were different, but close
The first night in our first place
The first night we spent in our home
We ate on the floor while summer twilight ricocheted
We had a simple and beautiful moment together
And it was easier back then
Life was simpler and better in the past
Honey, I knew, I knew, I knew you when
I fondly remember the person you used to be
I've been loving, loving you too long
I have been committed to our relationship for a long time
To just sudden, suddenly move on from this
To suddenly break up and move on from our relationship
(I knew you when)
(I remember the past)
(I, I knew you when)
(I remember the past)
We shedded, shedded way too much
We have gone through many challenges together
To just let it, let it make a mess of us
To let those challenges ruin our relationship
(I knew you when)
(I remember the past)
I knew, I knew you when
I fondly remember the person you used to be
(You)
(You)
(You)
(You)
(You)
(You)
I knew, I knew, I knew you when
I remember the past and the person you used to be
(You) I knew you when
(You) I remember you from the past
(You) I knew you when
(You) I remember you from the past
(You)
(You)
I knew, I knew, I knew you when
I fondly remember the person you used to be
A cabin on a rainy coast
A memory of us being in a cabin on a rainy coast
Where you said, "Forever's not enough," while we were close
A memory of you expressing your love for me while we were intimate
Been many years to now since then
A lot of time has passed since that memory
But honey you knew me, knew me, knew me when
You knew me intimately during that time
(You)
(You)
(You)
(You)
(You)
(You)
I knew, I knew, I knew you when
I fondly remember the person you used to be
(You) yeah
(You) yes
(You) now
(You) in the present
(You)
(You)
Yeah, I'll know, I'll know, I'll love you then
I will love the person you become in the future
(You) yeah, I'll love you then
(You) I will love you in the future
(You) oh, I'll love you then
(You) I will love you in the future
(You) oh
(You) oh
I'll know, I'll know you then
I will know the person you become in the future
(I thought time was supposed to heal it)
(I believed time would heal our wounds)
(Don't do shit but keep you feelin')
(But it only keeps the pain alive)
I
Me
Yeah, I'll know, I'll know you
I will know who you become
(I thought time was supposed to heal it) oh, I'll love you then
(I believed time would heal our wounds) but I will love you in the future
(Don't do shit but keep you feelin') oh, I'll love you then
(But it only keeps the pain alive) but I will love you in the future
Uh, yeah, yeah
An expression of agreement and understanding
You
You
You
You
You
You
Lyrics © O/B/O APRA AMCOS
Written by: Joshua Ramsay
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Kidzwolf
Lyrics <3
Been somewhere like this before
To a place we don't make sense together anymore
And if you're saying this is the end
Honey, I knew, I knew, I knew you when...
The first night in our first place
We ate on the floor where summer twilight ricocheted
And it was easier back then
Honey, I knew, I knew, I knew you when
I've been loving, loving you too long
To just sudden, suddenly move on from this
(I knew you when)
(I, I, I knew you when)
We shedded, shedded way too much
To just let it, let it make a mess of us
(I knew you when)
I knew, I knew you when
You, you, you
I knew, I knew, I knew you when
(You, you, you)
I knew you when, I knew you when
I knew, I knew you when
Cabin on a rainy coast
Where you said "forever's not enough" while we were close
But many years to now since then
But honey you knew me, knew me, knew me when
I've been loving, loving you too long
To just sudden, suddenly move on from this
(I knew you when)
(I, I, I knew you when)
We shedded, shedded way too much
To just let it, let it make a mess of us
(I knew you when)
I knew, I knew you when
You, you, you
I knew, I knew, I knew you when
(You, you, you)
I knew you when, I knew you when
I knew, I knew you when
I thought time was supposed to heal it
Don't do shit but keep you feelin'
Older, older
I thought time was supposed to heal it
Don't do shit but keep you feelin' (Oh)
I'm sure you're wondering...
Is this a new beginning or the start of another end?
But if you want to try again
Honey, I'll know, I'll know, I'll know you then
Honey, I'll know, I'll know, I'll know you then
You, yeah, you, you
Yeah, I'll know, I'll know, I'll know you then
(You, you, you)
Yeah, I'll know you then
Oh, I'll know you then
Oh, I'll know, I'll know you then
I thought time was supposed to heal it
Don't do shit but keep you feelin' (I'll)
(You, you, you)
I'll know, I'll know you
(You, you, you)
I'll know you then, I'll know you then
Yeah, yea-ah
You
You
Meaghan Heimbach
This music video is so visually artistic and compliments the song's composure so well. This is so impressive and just amazing ❤
Cassandra Nicole
Meaghan Heimbach agreed !!
LemmingYellow
I love that you've updated your sound while staying true to what you always were. I bought tickets to see you guys when you come my way early next year. I can hardly wait!
Allie Arnold
LemmingYellow me too! So excited!
Dog lover
I am going to! I'm so excited
Unique ru
me too
Wolxx-I-Am
Aww wish they would come to my country as well :0
Tiffany Hanson
I love that these girls aren't all a size 0 - Everyone looks amazing and the way Josh's eyes match his hair is enough to melt my heart! Beautiful video guys!
Jay
YES thank you someone else noticed this!! Love it :)
Amy Kearsing
Yes!!!