Experimental psychedelic group from Japan.

Formed in 2002

Pri… Read Full Bio ↴Experimental psychedelic group from Japan.

Formed in 2002

Primary members are known as

Mr. G
and
Mr. S

There is a long list of alternate and honorary members.

Official releases consist primarily of limited edition
layered overloads on CDR

The name is pronounced, /boo-psychedelic/.
Bu, in this case, means, "not" or "without".

Their primary influences have been listed as

Julian Cope and Led Zeppelin
while the group's private label is said to be
based on Apple Corp. and Swan Song records.

The group is known for each performance being unique
and each release seemingly unrelated to the previous.

R
Mr. Busaichedelic San Lyrics

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今日もただ
“独りで寂しい”と
君の前で思ってしまう
貴方のその優しい愛は
僕には美しすぎるんだ

許してくれなくていい
僕が愚かなままでいい

心が凍えそうなんだ
温めてくれるだけでいい

君の喜ぶ顔も
泣きそうな瞳も
僕を呼ぶ声も
生きて居るんだ
君は僕を
置いていくんだ
僕だけ歳をとらないみたいにさ

今日もただ
“独りで寂しい”と
君の前で思ってしまう
貴方のその優しさでも
僕は傷を負ってしまうんだ
神様どうか、答えて
君を愛せていたか解らないんだ

名誉じゃなくていい
お金なんかは後でいい
君が上手なままがいい
孤独を分かち合えればいい

ぎこちないキスも
涙したわけも
僕はサヨナラに慣れすぎた
心のハグも
プレゼントも
何一つ返せていないのに

今日もただ
“独りで寂しい”と
君の前で思ってしまう
貴方のその優しさは
僕には美しすぎる
神様どうか、伝えて
君に愛されていた事に気付いたんだ

鐘が鳴り響いた
魂は知って居るんだ
本当の愛ってこんなんじゃないんだろうか
出会った意味をも
数えればキリがないけど
君はもう居ない

今日もただ
“独りで寂しい”と
ベッドの中で思ってしまう
誰かのその優しさでも
僕は傷を負ってしまうんだ
今頃、僕は　僕は
君を愛していた事に気付いたんだ

全てが昨日のように
感じるんだ

Overall Meaning

The lyrics to Mr. Busaichedelic San's song R explore the theme of unrequited love and the pain that comes with it. The singer expresses his feelings of loneliness and how he feels that his love for the other person is not reciprocated. He admires the other person's kindness and love, but feels that he is not good enough for them. The singer asks for forgiveness for his foolishness and hopes that the other person can warm his heart with their love.

Despite the singer's pain, he still cherishes the memories he has with the other person, their smile, their tears, and their voice. However, the other person is moving on while the singer is still stuck in the past, unable to let go. He wishes that he could have shared his loneliness with them, but now he is left alone, unable to return any of the love that was given to him.

The lyrics are poignant and express the raw emotions that come with unrequited love. They showcase the pain, hurt, and longing that one feels when they are unable to be with the person they love.

Line by Line Meaning

今日もただ
Just like today

“独りで寂しい”と
I think to myself in front of you, "I'm just lonely."

君の前で思ってしまう
I can't help but think in front of you

貴方のその優しい愛は
Your gentle love

僕には美しすぎるんだ
It's too beautiful for me

許してくれなくていい
It's okay if you don't forgive me

僕が愚かなままでいい
It's okay if I remain foolish

心が凍えそうなんだ
My heart feels like it's freezing

温めてくれるだけでいい
Just warming it up is enough

君の喜ぶ顔も
Your happy face

泣きそうな瞳も
Tearful eyes

僕を呼ぶ声も
The voice that calls me

生きて居るんだ
It makes me feel alive

君は僕を
You are leaving me

置いていくんだ
You are leaving me behind

僕だけ歳をとらないみたいにさ
Like I'm the only one that's not aging

貴方のその優しさでも
Even with your kindness

僕は傷を負ってしまうんだ
I end up getting hurt

神様どうか、答えて
Oh God, please answer

君を愛せていたか解らないんだ
I don't know if I was able to love you

名誉じゃなくていい
I don't need honor

お金なんかは後でいい
Money can come later

君が上手なままがいい
You being talented is good enough

孤独を分かち合えればいい
If we can share our loneliness, that's enough

ぎこちないキスも
An awkward kiss

涙したわけも
The reason why I cried

僕はサヨナラに慣れすぎた
I've become too accustomed to saying goodbye

心のハグも
Even a hug from the heart

プレゼントも
Even a present

何一つ返せていないのに
But I couldn't return anything

貴方のその優しさは
Your kindness

僕には美しすぎる
It's too beautiful for me

神様どうか、伝えて
Oh God, please tell

君に愛されていた事に気付いたんだ
I realized that you loved me

鐘が鳴り響いた
The bell rings

魂は知って居るんだ
But my soul knows

本当の愛ってこんなんじゃないんだろうか
Isn't this what true love is?

出会った意味をも
Even if there's no meaning to our meeting

数えればキリがないけど
It's countless

君はもう居ない
You're not here anymore

ベッドの中で思ってしまう
I think to myself in bed

誰かのその優しさでも
Even someone else's kindness

今頃、僕は　僕は
By now, I have realized

君を愛していた事に気付いたんだ
That I was in love with you

全てが昨日のように
Everything feels like yesterday

感じるんだ
To me

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Most interesting comments from YouTube:

Slooty Booty

26w↑7

So, first story I actually feel strongly about as someone whose parents had a nasty divorce.

The reason this one hits me so hard is because in my 20's I made an attempt to self delete. I was in a coma for awhile, on a ventilator and all sorts of messed up.

My father came in from Florida to be in the hospital with me.

After I woke up and soon as they could the hospital decided to take me off the ventilator.

If you've ever been on a machine to breathe for you for a few weeks when they turn it off and remove it you feel like you're drowning. You can't breathe properly at all, every breath is gasping and they'll have you do this for increasing lengths of time over the course of a day or two till you are able to breath on your own.

First time they were doing that with me my father was in the hospital room with me, holding my hand. I am struggling and gasping to breathe, I have nurses around me telling me to try and remain calm and not get too scared because it would only make it harder to breathe if I started to panic...then my mother walks in. These two had not seen each other in 22+ years and their breakup was rife with cheating on both ends and Jerry Springer level drama. It was so bad that my father fled the state to get away from her unrelenting attacks, sending people to jump him or break into his work truck, etc.

So, when my mother suddenly walked in I started to panic...big time! I was sobbing uncontrollably, fully unable to breathe now but trying to beg them both not to kill one another with vocal cords so damaged from the ventilator tube that I sounded like the chick who voiced the demon possessed little girl in the Original Exorcist movie.

The sheer terror I felt in that moment was beyond anything I had felt since waking up a week or so prior.

It was awful. Just awful.

So, I feel what the daughter is going through.

You don't have to engage with your ex more than necessary to co-parent to make the child not spiral into terror at the prospect of you and your ex crossing paths ever again. You don't have to forgive or even forget. Just make sure the child knows that for her you will put aside your own anger and pain in the moment so she doesn't have to be afraid. That's all.

The kid did nothing and shouldn't have to have panic attacks because she wants both her parents to attend the same important function for her. She's innocent in all this.

Francisco Javier Mendez Rincon

26w

First story: She sent her relation into a black hole. Never to be seen again.

With the update: Wow, she's suffering the consequences of her actions. The daughter has to understand that anyone's forgiveness only goes so far and that her mother is actually unconsiously weaponizing her to make OP forgive her.

With the update 2: Nice. He's taking the ropes on the situation.

With the update 3: Wow.

With the update 4: In the end everyone got their happy ending, except the ex who doesn't deserve happiness.

All comments from YouTube:

Hasan Wilson

26w↑1.2K

She's not genuinely remorseful she's upset that no one in her life will ever let her live it down as they rightfully should

Lori Lancaster

26w↑44

And, I might be reaching, she may be upset that she got caught, OP divorced her, OP likely doesn’t have to pay her alimony and other assets since there is proof of her infidelity, and now her life isn’t as great as it once was. Again I’m reaching, it sounds like she hoped to convince OP of her “remorse” so they stay together, get counseling, and she continues living her life as a cheater on OPs dime

Reigo Vassal 4444

26w↑35

No she actually regret her action. Not because it's wrong, but because she didn't realize there's an ACTUAL CONSEQUENCES for her action. She truly expect OP is kind of a cuck that can be treated badly and she'll be fine.

Goyangi

26w↑1

Godzilla?

Robert Easley

26w↑18

⁠@Reigo Vassal 4444 She feels actual remorse because she was ostracized and shunned due to her actions. If I remember the other details correctly. She was kicked out the greater community because her friends were also stepping outside their relationships. In order to save their relationships they dropped her. The word spread throughout the community so new friends keep her away from their spouses. So, she’s feeling heavy repercussions beyond just the divorce. If all that wasn’t happening to her. Then she’d probably be belittling her ex and laughing about it with friends.

Reigo Vassal 4444

26w↑10

@Robert Easley correct. It's the "I regret getting caught" kind of remorse

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Mitha

26w↑593

1st story: I genuinely impressed by OP’s daughter. She’s wise beyond her age. What her mother did is beyond repair, and venting to your daughter about the consequences of your action? Really? You should never EVER make your kid your personal therapist. If OP’s ex-wife is really trying to mend things for the sake of their daughter, she should be the one to take the initiative to do a family therapy. And that took her 6 years to finally reached out to OP? Wth.

Ewan Verstraeten

26w↑12

Tbf, 16 year old is the age you start understanding those things. But yes, I agree, a child is never, NEVER the correct person to vent to.

juanita Ellingford

26w↑7

My mum used me as her therapist for several years when I became a teen. The shit that I've seen that my dad had sent her has really fucked me up. I agree, never use your kids as therapists.

Saber

26w↑3

@juanita Ellingford I’m sorry to hear you went through that

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Hasan Wilson

26w↑498

And to make it worse it's disgusting woman has the audacity to make her teenage daughter her therapist

B R

26w↑49

@clipclop15Sorry, no. The mother should not be talking to her daughter about the divorce at all. Coming from someone who has divorced parents, it's disgusting to be put in between your parents' issues, especially when the one doing it CHEATED and is whining about the consequences of her actions.

THEDubbleHelixx

26w↑25

@clipclop15 It is totally inappropriate for a mother to constantly dump on her child how much the father's actions hurt. It's emotional manipulation and could go as far as alienation. This is not normal parent-child behavior, full stop.

miniman649

26w↑22

@clipclop15 "Also, not everyone can afford a therapist"
Then talk to a friend, one of equal age or a family member that is not your daughter.

the child should not have to be the one taking care of their mother. THen the mother should sooner suffer in silence than dump it on their child.

Mina.R

26w↑10

@miniman649yeah, but it tells a lot, that the mom doesn't have any friends to talk to.. that tells a lot about her personally and her personality... No one wants to deal with her bs...

Nicholas Sanabria

26w↑10

Your child isn’t a therapist nether is your partner

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Hybrid301

26w↑358

Never tell a parent they missed a first. A lot already feel super guilty about missing out on their kids lives when they have to work.

clipclop15

26w↑32

Another example of when it’s ok, even advisable, to lie to someone

Alexa's Kitchen

26w↑19

It's a very loving and wholesome lie.

Anna S.

26w↑28

Yeah, I will never forget the face of an father of a girl in daycare. Another mother witnessed his daughters first steps and told him the second he came in. The daycare workers were horrorfied and I was so sad for him

chickenhound

26w↑10

Yeah I've heard that's actually standard for child care these days

Keh27

26w↑3

While I was present for all of our eldest child's firsts, I was away at college when my son started crawling, so yeah, I knew I'd be missing a few things. Luckily his mom was able to witness it and I WAS there for his first steps. Her family DID decide to hold the baptism when I wasn't there, but that's just a religious thing so not too big a deal. Like Rslash said though, hopefully those parents don't watch his videos. Or they do and they're appreciative of OP for not saying anything.

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Techigem

26w↑170

Story 1: My blood started boiling hearing that the mom was using her daughter as a therapist. Speaking from experience, it messes your kid up. Good on OP for shutting that down.

Kim Hohlmayer

26w↑11

Amen! No matter how rough things were after my son’s dad (my husband) died when my kid was a tween I made sure to never make him my replacement husband or my therapist. He’s my son and always will be. I needed to be his mom and fill in as best I could as his dad. My needs had to come second to his. I had a few dates but very few and never serious. Now he’s an independent adult and I can go back to being an old woman looking for some love and romance. Wish me luck. 😉

Pandarcher

26w↑53

Regarding the turpentine story : it is actually sold in a gum form.
I had a very bad persisting cough and the doctor I went to diagnosed as a bronchiolitis. The doc, which I later learned was a homeopath, prescribed those "eucalyptus gums" to ease the throat pain and "free the bronchial tubes". I didn't know what the actual composition was before I read the back of the box it came in.
Results : my cough worsened, and it was actually asthma.

Mel

26w↑8

Ugh, homeopaths!

Jeremy Nicoll

26w↑3

It has uses, but definitely shouldn't be ingested. I think it may take a long time before negative effects appear though.

ANPC 5493

26w↑5

Homeopaths are not doctors, period. Report him for misrepresenting his 'profession'. In most modern first world countries, what he is dping is illigal.

Pandarcher

26w↑3

@ANPC 5493 Unfortunately, I live in France.
We have a...special relationship with pseudo medicine. For example, psychoanalysis is still taught in universities as a mandatory course to become a psychologist.

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elijah

26w↑145

Ok story 1: Op did a good job raising his daughter the mom not so much.
Story 2: WHO THE HELL GIVE THEIR KIDS TURPENTINE that's not a joke who really gives their kids turpentine that woman deserves to be in jail.
Story 3: Good on Op for not telling them.

RayeBee

26w↑8

My mother tried to do this. I was 31. I nodded and smiled and never did it. I oil paint and there's no way I'm drinking what I cleaned my brushes with.

elijah

26w↑1

@RayeBee Good drinking chemicals don't sound good.

Shadow

26w↑603

Second Story: The title is crazy. Also, the ex's grandmother and the ex is crazy. The ex was basically poisoning the kids (both physically and mentally) against OP. I hope OP gets sole custody. I feel so sad for people who dealt with a similar situation.

Richard Nickerson

26w↑14

Men rarely get full custody, even when they can prove the woman is unfit.

KattoTang

26w↑27

@Richard Nickerson This is just false.

jeremiah smith

26w↑1

26w↑2

@Duckyeah that’s abuse my g

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Liza Bee

26w↑50

Last story: at the preschool I work at we have an unspoken rule: “don’t tell the parents if their baby reaches an milestone like first step or first word.” It’s because some of our parents might already feel guilty that they spend so much time away from their child/children that being told they missed a major milestone might make them feel more guilty

Dracko

26w↑269

Cheating on someone and doing s*xual stuff with another man is something that CANNOT be forgiven for. I admire her persistence, but this is something that can't be recovered from. And it's wrong for her to spill everything to the daughter like she's some kind of therapist or some sh*t.

DarDarBinks

26w↑16

@clipclop15 then the mom should talk to her friends and not her daughter.

Redfire

26w↑22

it isn't the cheating per se but the way she only came clean when there was proof she couldn't get away with. Lying while swearing on your daughter's life is disgusting.

insuna

26w↑5

And the gall to record it, too...

LiterallyLaen

26w↑10

@DarDarBinksEven though she doesn't have many friends, it's better than dragging a child/teenager into it.

miniman649

26w↑17

@Redfire indeed.
She basically said 'my reputation and image is more important than my daughter's life' with that false swear.

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Misc

26w↑50

Story 2 is insane to me. Gum Turpentine is used as a paint thinner used mostly for oil paints, so imagine what damage could have been wrought if this continued without op stepping in.

я Бог

26w↑5

Its used for art paints - wich ion know much abt but the one thing i do know from hanging out with my grandmother and painting in general. ART PAINT IT TOXIC ASFFF THAT SHIT WILL STAY RED NO WORRIES ABT THAT SO JS THINK OF CANCEROUS SHIT IN THAT ANS THIS LADY IS LITERALLY FEEDING HER CHILDREN STUFF THAT BREAKS UP THIS TYPE OF PAINT = I

liza alexeeva

26w↑8

Im a painter and i was terrified.

Feather Catcher

26w↑2

As artist

I was terrified when I heard the story no.2

Jean Bean

26w↑3

Got it, so they are basically drinking paint thinner ( poor kids) thanks now I don’t have to google what turpentine is now

Mari S

26w↑1

@liza alexeeva SAME!! omg

Nerobyrne

26w↑85

Damn, the first OP and his daughter are Grade-A people.
She didn't want to hurt him, even if that meant she wouldn't get to see him.
And he was ready and willing to help his ex get over herself so she can be a better parent, even if he had to pay for it.

What a dumb wife he had, who threw all that away^.^

Richard Nickerson

26w↑2

Have you looked through these comments? Way too many people here must not have paid any attention.

D. Phantom Fan #1

26w↑178

Story 2: I wish you and your kids the best, and when your exes convicted for feeding her kids poison for so long, worst case scenario she will lose all custody with a slim to no chance of monitor visitation. Best case you got the prison for child engagement/ abuse.

jeremiah smith

26w↑1

I’m not saying nothing was happening. Maybe you should wait until the evidence is presented before locking her up.

RamenBomberDeluxe

26w↑19

@jeremiah smithWhat else did you think OP was suggesting? Of course they'd prefer the standard legal process, why bring this up?

Richard Nickerson

26w↑5

Worst case is that it doesn't actually affect much, actually.
Men rarely get full custody, even when there's proof the mother is unfit.

insuna

26w↑6

@Richard Nickerson lot of divorced energy, my guy

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SilverFlight01

26w↑62

Story 1: It's VERY unhealthy and terrible to dump emotional baggage on children, it can mess them up, and it might even make them hate you for it.

Go see a therapist instead of venting it at everyone

Improv

26w↑61

Story 1: @RSlash, I don’t think, under normal circumstances, you would be able to have that kind of patience with a woman who had hurt you so deeply, but if it was for your daughter’s sake, like with OP, I 100% think you would go through all of this to help her have a more normal life. That guy is just a great dad, which is wonderful! Truly worthy of being in the bestof category 😀

ANPC 5493

26w↑1

He's an exemplary father. Wish mine was like him.

Hasan Wilson

26w↑19

If you're a sick human being how could you be a good mother. You have to be a decent human being on some level to even qualify as a good parent. This idea that you can be a good parent while only firing on one cylinder as a human being sounds impossible

Kayla Woodbury

26w↑3

He wasn't actually saying she's a good mom, he was just trying to not do what the mother was doing, by burdening his daughter with all his problems he has with his ex.

Marcus Johnson

26w↑15

I don’t like babies or kids at all, but damn that last story even made a crack in my hardened heart. Other folks being happy and healthy is always a feels good moment

Eliza Almaguer

26w↑16

ok, so for the turpentine story: The good news regarding people that 'sell the oil' claiming it is good for you means it is likely a scam and not turpentine at all.

Had people where I live claim industrial bleach was a cure for covid and they would 'sell it'. That bleach is commonly used to disinfect drinking water (it is used at about half the concentration than standard household bleach would be used if you ever had to prepare and preserve drinking water in an emergency), I'm mentioning this because that is the safe concentration for consumption. The claim was consuming the bleach would cure you and prevent covid, that claim would mean that just drinking the city tap water would cure you... but they sold products they claimed was the appropriate dose of bleach to cure you. Honestly, it was probably water with some flavoring and coloring to con people into thinking it was something while not getting them poisoned. There never were any reports for an influx of poison cases associated to bleach (have some friends that work at hospitals that keep me updated on those sort of things).

Sarah CB

26w↑52

I've worked in childcare for over ten years now and it's a rule that you NEVER tell parents about their first. The truth is we are with kids sometimes more hours of the day than the parents so it's very likely we'll see their firsts before the parents do and it's something we shouldn't take away from them just because they have to work. So now you know a dirty secret of the industry.

Mr. Grumpypants

26w↑46

with the tummytime one, I understand. I work at a daycare, and we're told not to tell the parents if they do a milestone so they can witness it themselves. so OP did the right thing.

peepo popo

26w↑10

The thing that bothers me the most about the cheating wife is when she swore "on their daughter's life". Now obviously, swearing on someone's life doesn't actually put them in danger, but the sentiment of saying that while knowing that you're lying is really icky to me. I don't blame OP for trying to cut her out, and I hope they daughter knows she said that.

Nathan Pyne

26w↑25

Story 1: She wasn't "too ashamed when she blatantly lied to OP's face, or when she swore on her then 9 year old daughter's life and she wasn't too ashamed when she turned her now teenaged daughter into her therapist.

What a scummy, pathetic excuse of a person.

ChioGaru

26w↑17

The turpentine story is absolutely insane!

I actually went to art school in Australia and for each new class/course the first day was always dedicated to OHS (Occupational Health and Safety) and it was drilled into us repeatedly about labeling any jars, bottles...etc. clearly as we would be working with several poisonous substances like paint solvents and thinners including turpentine! One of the students in my course was chewed out for cheekily labeling an old pasta sauce jar with "This is not [Brand Name] Pasta sauce" instead of "Solvent - Poison". He even told us about a girl who had taken a big gulp of turps by mistake, because it was next to her water bottle (we weren't supposed to have our food/drinks out in the studio either, and definitely not next to the solvents + paint mediums we were using), which was similar in size and appearance and how it had wreaked havoc on her digestive tract - and how they considered her very lucky given that was all she had to deal with.

Sarah Kinsey

26w↑97

This might get lost but last night at work we had an entitled woman. She had 3 or 4 carts full of stuff and ended up staying 45 minutes after the store closed. It takes about the same amount of time to get the registers closed and ready for the morning. I got home around 11 and still had to shower because I have to be there at 9 today. Ugh. It’s the full moon so it’s when those people come out

DarDarBinks

26w↑6

I have never felt so seen by post before. I hope tomorrow you get to sleep in

Sarah Kinsey

26w↑3

@DarDarBinks this is why Mondays are not my availability. By Sunday night my brain is completely fried. I work at a fabric and craft store so it’s been slammed with Halloween costumes

Yumi Jaymesme

26w↑1

I work at a seasonal Halloween store. Three days ago was the last day for exchanges. We being getting lots of people wanting exchanges/returns. It's wild. Some are calm while others do the entitled person and demand to see the manager.

Sarah Kinsey

26w

@Yumi Jaymesme similar to today, yesterday was the last day of the 3 day sales. Nope you’re too late

Sarah Kinsey

26w

UPDATE: Guess who shows up an hour before we close, also the same time that me, a coworker, and the other MOD leave. The same MOD that closed last night is closing today and is checking her out. The lady hade like 5 receipts laid on the counter for a return or needed something fixed.

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Cecily✨

26w↑53

Unfortunately, my uncle is a conspiracy theorist and had convinced my grandma to take a spoonful of Borax every day. Thankfully, she has stopped because she didn't feel well (wonder why) but he's still abusive to her financially and verbally. She refuses to give up on him though, and won't move without him. It's really hard. A part of me wants to go no contact but I don't have that in me yet. Hoping I can get her to come around. Hopefully, he doesn't catch wind of that damn turpentine nonsense.

AmyoftheFlowerField

26w↑7

I work with infants in daycare. I have for the last 8 years of my life. I've experienced many firsts.First roll overs, first crawls, first steps... and our rule at our center is to NEVER tell parents that it happened. It's already hard enough with parents leaving their babies in daycare, let alone to miss all their firsts.

Slooty Booty

26w↑7

!?

26w↑3

OP has been an excellent father he is refusing to badmouth her mother while still holding firm and explaining what and why and has his daughter's best interests in mind rather than his ego

palindrome1959

26w↑10

With respect to story 1, personally, I have forgiven people who have harmed me in the past, and have been forgiven for my own actions against people in the past as well. The one thing I will never forgive, or expect to be forgiven for is betrayal. NTA ...

Anna Bunovsky

26w↑3

I first learned what turpentine was as a kid through Roger Rabbit (turpentine is one of the ingredients in the dip), so through the whole second story all I could think was “THOSE KIDS ARE DRINKING DIP” and it actually made me queasy. Thank god the father found out before it did any damage to their health. It terrifies me to think of how many children are at the mercy of parents who’ve fallen down conspiracy theory rabbit holes.

Exavior

26w↑14

For story 2 they must have split right after he got her pregnant the second time for them to have a 5 year old when they split 6 years ago. Have to wonder if she was showing signs of crazy then that caused them to split and go no communication.

Sanodi21

26w↑4

First story, the cheater said it herself; she's a POS and her betrayal is both disrespectful and shouldn't be forgiven. Especially with how she seemingly can't accept responsibility because she's saying it's OP fault over how he (rightfully) hates her and it's making people judge her and keep others away.

That aside, that is a very grown up question for OP's daughter to ask and it was really good for OP and his daughter to have that sort of talk with OP being open about it. Plus OP taking it to therapists with his family and getting that sorted and trying to give his daughter her life back. The cheater is total garbage because she's refusing closure over an apology that'll never come.

Sam Accardi

26w↑9

You definitely don't want to be ingesting turpentine. Sure, it's used in soaps and make-ups, but it's also more commonly used as paint thinner.

persuasivedino

26w↑5

Homeschooler here. There were kids raised in my community that were forced to drink turpentine and kerosene. CPS was called. However I was forced to take massive amounts of St John's wort. Usually 8 capsules a day.

Maltodextreen

26w↑4

Unfortunately, far too many of us are close with someone like the mother in story 2. I know personally my mom will refuse to drink unfiltered tap water bc of flouride, believes chemtrails are a thing despite having ABSOLUTELY seen the condensation on plane wings while flying, believes in anti-vaxx conspiracies, refuses to listen when I show her peer reviewed studies that show all these things as false, and simultaneously praises me for my critical thinking skills, and says I'm brainwashed by the government. Literally every time she says "You know, such and such thing is actually good for you despite what the government says" I ask her where she heard it and 9 times out of 10 it's unsourced facebook posts, or tiktok videos. I am legitimately concerned for her well being and try my best to make her think critically, but it doesn't work.

Hasan Wilson

26w↑15

And now the ex is trying to beg and work for forgiveness that she will never earn.

Olivia Ksiag

26w↑4

The OP in that second story drove me absolutely crazy at first, dude was like “my ex is poisoning my kids, what do I do?” And I was like “why haven’t you spoken to a lawyer yet?”

Miss Amanda

26w↑1

Neither of us cheated we seriously both had parents dying hours apart. We divorced we used 1 attorney, we split everything fairly, we have always done what was best for our son. You don't have to like your ex wife . You also don't have to make your daughter anxious at every large life event or have her terrified her parents are going to be jerks. The biggest problem our son will have at his wedding is finding a song long enough to dance with his bonus mom and me both. ❤

Twisted Lain

26w↑1

For the last story that is so wholesome! I have also lied about my own children's milestones in the past like first steps so their daddy could see the "first" with me! He worked a lot and I worried that he would be sad, especially with our first, for missing out when I was a SAHM who got to be with them all day. So when I would see it I would be so happy and proud but I wouldn't say anything other than our baby is close to XYZ milestone to him which usually had us try and help them do it but I knew they could. It might seem underhanded but I treasure the moments we shared more than "being first" to see it like some parents are...

AdorableFloof1999

26w↑6

Story 1: Using ypur children as a therapist should be illegal. My mom went through a long, messy divorce with my abusive sperm donor and never talked to any of us (me and 2 sisters) about it.

Story 2: This is why I hate pseudo science believers, they aren't just hurting themselves, they're killing people and most often it's their own kids.

Augustus Wayne

26w↑9

When my dad was a kid in the 1940's ,his mom would give them a couple DROPS of turpintin with a spoonful of sugar for a cold .

Ms. Rose

26w↑2

I'm glad op didn't forgive her as you don't have to forgive someone to move on but taught his kid the same. And therapy.

Sol

26w↑5

okay so in my oil painting class we were encouraged to keep the doors open and leavefor breaks because of the amount of turpentine used, how tf do people think its okay to INGEST

YoungCrazy CatLady

26w↑1

2nd story: Turpintine used to be an old fashioned remedy in like the 1930 until 1960 ish. Rural areas in America often did not have local doctors and relied on mecidine men/women in the community. Honestly, I didn't even know turpintine was dangerous until I heard this story though I've never taken it. My grandmother's mom used to give it to her as a cold remedy everytime they got sick.

YoItsZae

26w↑1

The fact she sweared on their daughters life she wasn't cheating...THATS what I can't get over

StormieSkies

26w

1st story - i relate to the daughter in it. My parents began divorce process when i was 11 or 12 and i was told rather calmly. But as soon as they were seperated and custody was split 50/50 my mother used me as a therapist while my father would churn out vile poisonous stories and statements about my mother being awful when he was physically and emotionally abusive to not only her but me simply for looking like her.
My mother treating me like a therapist hasnt stopped in more than a decade now under the excuse of "i dont have any friends" shes begun to do the same thing with my daughter as well only venting to her about ME and its irritating as all get out. Thankfully im low contact with my father and hes gotten less destructive in his old age and ive learned how to shut down his awful comments quickly.
Ah.. tldr ive been where the daughter is in the 1st story

Linnea Sandström

26w↑4

I feel sorry for the daughter having to be a therapist to her own mom
My dad did the exact thing after he sobered up, saying alcohol was relief to everything
Theres help for many things if taking the initiative to get it. Theres only so much talking about it vs getting help for it does

Piper L

26w↑2

@clipclop15that’s not an excuse. Mother shouldn’t be trauma dumping on her child AT ALL. Doesn’t matter if she “can’t afford a therapist.”

Chains of Scarlet

26w↑4

The Turpentine story, something like this is likely a case of the mother having Munchausen syndrome, a mental condition where the parental figure will purposefully make their child ill to get attention from others.

ANPC 5493

26w↑1

*by proxy

D. Phantom Fan #1

26w↑28

Story 1: you're doing a lot to try and make this work for the sake of your daughter, not to mention probably fixing the match your ex created for herself. I mean all you really have to do is be able to tolerate tolerate being in the same room as her, and you did but you're doing more solely because you want to make sure you're doing everything right and that's great, it's a lot better than forcing all of your problems on to your daughter because you want to use her to force forgiveness.

Joseph Wisniewski

26w↑22

Vincent van Gogh was famously addicted to "terpenes", chemicals found in absinthe, camphor, and turpentine. The name comes from an archaic spelling of turpentine. Absinthe was expensive, but being a painter he always had camphor and turpentine handy. The terpenes in turpentine are indeed toxic, and hallucinogenic. Van Gogh was also fond of eating paints, but only those whose colors come from lead. Lead is an insidious poison because it tastes great.

The Narrator

26w

I hear things like this and it makes it difficult to trust other parents with my kids without thoroughly getting to know them.

lekiscool

26w↑4

The only thing I know about turpentine is that ARTISTS USE IT TO THIN OUT OIL PAINTS.

Rev. Kirk KB7QOD

26w↑3

I have a gallon of turpentine out in my wood shop. When I use it, I wear gloves. I use it like any normal human would--to clean paint brushes when I use an oil based paint or stain. (By the way, it is quite ineffective to strip old paint.)

Man InBlack

26w↑1

Ex wife isn't actually remorseful. She is still years later trying to lay things on the daughter in hopes of her making dad feel bad. The only regrets the ex wife has is that she is alone and ruined a good thing

Morgan VS The Internet

26w↑6

2- The fact that the kids were singing “A spoonful of sugar helps the turpentine go down.” is mind-blowing!

The Gentleman Blacksmith

26w↑14

Blue Ridge Virginia boi here, Rslash is absolutely correct about the trees and their emissions. Kinda purple now thanks to all the orange leaves

Jean Bean

26w↑1

I’ve been though the blue ridge mountains a few times, today I learned rslash lives in my home state of Virginia ( cool)

Lorla C

26w

1st story: I had a sister like OP’s ex wife. She spoke to her daughter about her problems in the divorce. I kept telling her that it’s not healthy to talk to her about it and to either talk with me or the family. She still did it and of course she never cared about the family, which is why I said “had”. What kind of advice can your 17 yo daughter give you? This was one of the most selfish things she did.

Eric Yerxa

26w

The last story is cute and she made thr right call. For our second kid, I missed several firsts due to work, but my wife forgot to tell me. When I saw it, I would get all excited and record it. I would tell her about it later and she would say, "Oh yeah, he did stated doing that a few days ago". She was just to tired to remember to tell me. While I was a little let down after, I also got to experience the excitement of it. I knew I couldn't be there for everything so I decided to be happy with how it turned out. Even if the parents find out, the excitement they had is real enough.

Brooke Wilson

26w↑12

I wish you would read the “dry and boring” parts, I’d like to know all the details of the story

Shadow Rose

26w↑4

First story: daughter sounds like a very smart and kind girl ❤

Shellbe

26w↑2

Story 2: Yes, people used to drink turpentine. In the past a lot of people used to drink it as the "cure all" basically. cold? turpentine. Stomache ache? turpentine

Autistic Nation

26w↑1

About the turpentine story. While ivermectin and bleach are most well known, there's a lot of common ones that many people don't know about. Like my friend's mom who attempted to treat COVID, The Virus, with fish antibiotics. Luckily my friend knows how to cheek pills and didn't take them. He's fine now

onasisscot

26w

Ok, I had to look into this turpentine thing because of how batshit crazy that sounds. Apparently, it used to be used as medicine in the 1800s as a remedy for tapeworms, but the doctors then even wrote that there was a probability of horrible urinary problems (ie kidneys) when used. It was also used in the civil war to help stop bleeding via injection or topical application, and, oddly, apparently it’s still used today in vapo-rub (which you aren’t supposed to friggin EAT!). The article also mentioned that pine tar is very closely related but doesn’t, you know, murder you. Maybe wires got crossed, but even if that were to be the case in this story, best not to have a complete moron as a guardian for a child.

DudeUDontKnow

26w↑1

Story 1: my daughters mom and I rarely talk and it’s because she was not only unfaithful to me she controlled my life and beat the shit out of me. We talk only about our daughter. She (my ex) knows I despise her with every fiber of my being. I’m jealous that OP was able to go no contact. If I could not have the devil spawn in my life I’d take it

rats make me crazy

26w

Finally a wholesome story, ralash please do more wholesome ones cause the non wholesome ones are draining

WMA023

26w↑2

The LAST story made me sad for parents in the US. You guys get so little parental leave that you miss out on what is important 😢

Alex W

26w

Story 3: Definitely try not to tell the parent they missed a first, but there are some exceptions for safety. Babies can’t be swaddled once they’re able to roll (suffocation risk), they need to switch to a sleep sack. The parents would need to be told before bedtime if they didn’t find out on their own.

DreamwithintheHeart

26w↑1

It has been years, but back when I used to paint with oil paint, I used turpentine to clean off my brushes, and let me tell ya the smell was intense. I needed to be in a ventilated area, and the fumes were sometimes too much. Now I know paint terpentine and what ever she might be using may be different, but the thought of drinking that stuff makes me sick.

Hammerd Walrus

26w

Story 3: I feel that if the parents OP nannies(nanny's?) for find their post/this video, they'll be heart broken that they missed the true first roll over, but will be thankful for OP for sparing their feelings. Of course every parent is their own person with their own emotions and reactions, but if they are half as sweet as OP has described them, they'll be thankful no matter the case.

Kayla Christian

26w

As a nanny I never tell the parents when I see first steps or honestly any milestone. I always let the parents tell me. It would just make them sad. As they get older I always ask if I can do certain things just in case they want to be the first ones to experience something with their child.

tomsonrk

26w

co parents: wow kudos to the dad, he actually put his feelings away to do these therapy session so both he and his ex could be better parents to their daughter. That guy has integrity.

lekiscool

26w↑2

Most care givers don’t tell the parents when children reach mile stones under their care. Its like an unspoken rule.

TsukiKageTora

26w↑1

How dare the mother subject her daughter to her issues with her father. Like if the daughter isn’t smart enough to see it, this could be a case of parental alienation.

Trisanite

26w

With the last story, I work at a daycare. We have a 6 month old who has massively surpassed most milestones, probably because the other infants are almost 1 year old. (One is 10 month, the other is 11 months) She started talking, and we said nothing. Thankfully that morning, she had talked to her older siblings in the car, and mom just forgot to tell us lol. I totally get not wanting to ruin the firsts

jeremiah smith

26w↑22

I heard a couple of red flags in the second story. 1: op and the mother are basically no contact. 2: for some reason op doesn’t have 50/50 custody. 3. even though it was going on for a month, every indication was that the kids were perfectly healthy. I’m very interested in the toxicology report.

Kayla Woodbury

26w↑4

You do know most custody battles don't end with a 50/50 split. Also having limited contact is also normal, especially when one is a conspiracy nut job trying to keep things from the other parent.