One of the group’s trademarks was the experimentation with Dutch lyrics, which resulted the (back then) four piece in being the first ever crew in The Netherlands to release a complete demo in their native language. This turned out to be the start of a new genre they still call ‘Nederhop’ to this day, a term consisting of the words “Nederlandse” (Dutch) and “Hip-Hop”.
The start of Osdorp Posse can be tracked back as far as 1986, when Def P (real name Pascal Griffioen) made his debut on the Dutch hip-hop scene with the group Funky Fresh Force, consisting of him and DJ Dov, who would later become a famous House DJ under the pseudonym DJ The Prophet.
In 1988 Griffioen started experimenting with Dutch lyrics as a joke (translating American rap lyrics from groups such as N.W.A.), and a creative exercise (writing a couple of ‘real’ songs). His nephew Marco (later on taking on the nickname IJsblock – a literal translation of N.W.A.’s infamous Ice Cube) joined in the musical tomfoolery, as they recorded raps on instrumental tracks from their record collection, using nothing but a tape deck and a microphone.
It wasn’t until Marco and Pascal met Robin (now known as Seda) and Arthur (King) that they got down to writing real material that they found suitable for recording. Even though their musical playground that they had by then labelled Osdorp Posse (named after the Amsterdam neighbourhood Osdorp, where they all lived) consisted of a large group of friends with a continuously changing line-up, the core of the Posse was the four guys, and would remain so until twelve years later. With a lot of the co-rappers leaving the group with no interest in taking Osdorp Posse to a next level, the group recorded an infamous demo as a fourpiece. The nameless cassette – which quickly became known as ‘De Rode Demo’ (The Red Demo) – was handed out to friends, and travelled the country, taking the underground alternative music scene by storm through the tape trading circuit.
One of the many people who got hands on De Rode Demo was Saskia Sleger, the owner of the underground dancelabel DJAX. Recognizing the originality as well as the obvious talent, Sleger decided to contact the group and offer them a contract. Hardly believing what just happened to them, the young rappers immediately signed with DJAX, without reading the fine print. Def P later described this move in the band’s biography ‘Tien Jaar OP’ as impulsive and a bit naïve, but it turned out to be a good thing: the start of legendary career.
Now having to actually release cds instead of fooling around with a tapedeck, Pascal, Marco, Robin and Arthur franticly started writing out the material that they had come with before heading to a local studio in 1992, recording the first ever ‘Nederhop’ cd: the poorly produced yet explosive, hardcore and edgy twenty three song classic ‘Osdorp Stijl’ (Osdorp Style).
With an official release in stores, the group started on a journey that moved their live-shows away from the squat- and fret houses, onto the ‘ real’ alternative music scene. The album was an instant underground classic, which not only spawned an entire generation of Dutch Hip-hop acts at the time, but also quickly finding a following within a diverse group of alternative music fans such as punkers, metalheads, rockers and many alike.
The following two releases were plagued by the same production problems as their infamous debut, but through their sheer determination, explosive live shows and hardcore, relentless lyrical attitude became underground hits nevertheless. It wasn’t until they were asked to play the warm-up show at the biggest festival in the Netherlands, Pinkpop, that they got recognition from a larger audience. Their fourth cd entitled ‘Afslag Osdorp’ (Osdorp Exit), was released soon after the legendary festival appearance, and was the groups largest commercial success to that date. Riding the wave of word-to-mouth advertising following Pinkpop and their years on end of touring and self promoting (being ignored by mainstream media and critics), Afslag Osdorp sold thousands of copies; an achievement that was until then unthinkable for a Dutch rap act.
Later that year, with their popularity growing to a new height, Osdorp Posse played one of the most legendary and afterwards most talked about performances on the Dutch alternative music scene at the Lowlands Festival. Something that was euphemistically called a programming mistake, the group was set to play the smallest tent (Charlie) in the afternoon. Even though the Amsterdam crew warned the festival organisation about the possible consequences, the foursome’s advice to move their show to a bigger tent fell was ignored, resulting in half the festival attendees trying to fit in the small, claustrophobic space in anticipation of what was then one of the biggest things in Dutch music: Osdorp Posse. After the first couple of notes were played, the frantic crowd started to mosh, pogo and crowdsurf with such an enthusiasm that they nearly destroyed the entire tent. Def P later explained he had no idea how dangerous the situation was, that eventually led to an early ending of the gig when the crowd rushed to the stage, crushing the structure. No one got seriously hurt, yet everyone had witnessed and taken part in a legendary festival moment, talked about to this day.
In 1996 the group received the prestigious ‘ Pop Prijs’ (Pop Prize), as a recognition of their pioneering role in the Dutch hip-hop scene. That year also marked another legendary festival performance; the Dynamo Open Air festival – at that time the most important Heavy Metal event in the world – playing as the first and only hip-hop crew ever in front of more then a 100.000 longhaired metalheads, a large portion of whom were stoned Germans (enjoying the music all the same). The following year, ‘ Osdorp’ returned to Pinkpop, this time playing not once but twice: first on the small stage, returning on the final day at the main stage in front of 60.000 people.
After the commercial and artistic successes of albums such as ‘Briljant, Hard en Geslepen’ (Brilliant, Hard and Polished) – recorded with death metal band Nembrionic, and the chart success ‘Geendagsvlieg’ (literally: No day fly, as a play on words to the term ‘one day fly’, emphasizing their timelessness) the Posse left their long time label Djax to start up their own label called RAMP Records (consisting of the first letters in their names: Robin, Arthur, Marco, Pascal). In 2000, the group’s first release on their own turf called ‘ Kernramp’ (Nuclear Disaster) became their biggest commercial success, and remains so to this day. For the first time in their 12 year long career, Osdorp Posse even landed on the Dutch TOP 40 charts with their single ‘ Origineel Amsterdams’, which eventually ploughed into the top 10.
The release of their eighth album also marked the first change in line-up the group had seen since the early demo days: DJ ‘Deegmeester’ Daan – who already joined the band on stage for quite a while – became the fifth member of Osdorp Posse. That year they returned to Lowlands Festival as a five-piece, this time on a bigger stage. Once again controversy was part of the group’s performance, with Def P openly protesting against the nationwide crowd surf ban (as a result to the Roskilde tragedy earlier that year).
Around that time the music industry started crashing down. With programmes such as Napster and Kazaa providing fans with free – yet illegal – music, Osdorp Posse’s new label had a hard time lifting off. Every release after ‘ Kernramp’, such as ‘ Tegenstrijd” (meaning both Counter Battle, and Contradiction in Dutch) and Hollandse Hardcore Hip-Hop Helden all saw decreasing sales figures. At the same time, the genre the group created – Nederhop – had become a mainstream phenomena with acts such as Extince, Def Rhymz, and new school artists and groups like Raymster and Opgezwolle taking over the Dutch hiphop scene. Osdorp Posse, never being a favourite of the mainstream media – could only witness their own decline.
Around 2004, the group had plummeted back into the underground scene, once again playing the smaller venues. The groups hardcore following had eye for their later releases with bands such as Laberinto and Blind Justice, but stayed true to their heroes all the same.
Near the end of 2008, the group has announced to call it quits. After a release party of their final effort entitled ‘2 Decennia’ (Two Decades), Osdorp Posse embarked on a farewell tour, taking them to all the places they played, rocked the mike at, and witnessed their fanatic following go crazy to their hardcore style of performing.
The group’s swansong took place on their own turf, in the Amsterdam club De Melkweg in September of 2009, leaving a legacy that can not be ignored or forgotten: the invention and perfection of Nederhop.
Dump die junk
Osdorp Posse Lyrics
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het is vaak een dief of straatdel,
het heeft een hoofd met zaagsel
en kleren met braaksel.
Geen kies meer om te kauwen,
je kan ze niet vertrouwen
en je kan niet om ze rouwen
als ze sterven in de koude.
en zien er uit als een punk,
het is een vuile vieze gore teringjunk.
Overal kom je die zielepieten tegen,
ze liggen uitgemergeld te beven in de regen.
Hun haren die kleven
en hun enige reden om te leven
is om er na te streven
zichzelf een shot te geven.
Dump die junk want het is hun eigen schuld,
stinkend rijke dealers die ()lachen zich een bult.
Want zeg nou zelf,
ze begonnen ooit zelf,
ze kopen het zelf,
ze roken het zelf,
ze spuiten ook zelf,
en ze snuiven ook zelf,
ze stelen steeds zelf
en verspreiden aids zelf,
ze verloren zichzelf,
dus vermoorden zichzelf,
ze doen het godverdomme toch allemaal zelf.
Dus een ding wat ik niet heb is medelijden,
je kan niet eens normaal meer met de metro rijden.
Dan zit er weer zo'n sukkel te stinken z'n rotzooi,
als ze niet zo vies waren gaf je ze een rotgooi.
Lege holle ogen kijken wel maar zien niets
en zodra de (coke/dope) uitwerkt jatten ze je fiets.
Zit er zo'n verslaafde tussen de beschaafde
mensen, ga je wensen dat die zombie z'n laatste
trip maakt en voordat ie weer een huis kraakt
stik doordat ie op z'n rug ligt en braakt.
Ouders zeggen dat een drugsdealer maar gemeen is,
maar ze weten niet dat hun eigen zoon er een is.
Je bent tegen drugs trut, lik m'n penis,
niet de drug maar de gebruiker is wat het probleem is,
Want zonder de gebruikers ook geen illegaal handel,
geen mafia, geen gangsters en geen dealers aan de wandel.
Maar door die junks zegt (een dopeman) "Waarom niet?
Ik heb geld en macht en neuk elke griet."
Maar wacht maar af, want eenmaal zal je niet lachen,
en zal de concurrent bij je binnenkomen raggen.
Of door een hinderlaag grijpt de smeris je in je kraag,
en in de bajes wordt je reet ontmaagd.
En als je weer vrij komt kun je nergens belanden,
want degene die je ... waren zijn nu vijanden.
Je mooie boot
werd gekraakt als een noot,
en iemand schoot
je makkers dood
met lood
in hun boot,
zodat ze als een idioot
stierven in hun blote kloot,
in een goot,
in een grote sloot
van bloedrood
Teringjunk, in plaats van de straat af te likken,
moeten jullie allemaal verplicht afkicken.
En als je dat weigert dan is dat fijn,
dan kicken wij je af, van de rand van een ravijn.
Want jullie karakter is jullie zwakte,
vroeger deed je stoer totdat je drugs pakte.
Je gebruikte steeds meer en voelde je te gek,
maar nu gebruikt de drugs jou en je prikt je aders lek.
De naalden gaan van de ene arm in de andere,
wanneer gaat dit nou godverdomme eens veranderen.
Als het aan mij ligt nu meteen,
een methadonbus met een gratis overdosis voor iedereen.
En voor alle junks die nog kunnen nadenken
en zich afvragen of er nou hoop is,
yo Seda, schop die beat d'r in en laat ze horen wat jouw dope is!
The song 'Dump die junk!' by Osdorp Posse is an angry and scathing critique of drug addiction and the destructive impact it has on individuals and society. The lyrics use vivid descriptions to paint an unflattering picture of drug addicts, portraying them as dirty, broken, and hopeless. The first verse describes a 'junk' as someone with no teeth, covered in vomit, and smelling like a skunk. The second verse highlights the ways in which addiction consumes the lives of those affected, leaving them with nothing but the pursuit of their next fix. The chorus urges listeners to 'dump' drug addicts, blaming them for their own predicament and condemning drug dealers for profiting off their suffering.
Line by Line Meaning
Hier is een raadsel, het is vaak een dief of straatdel, het heeft een hoofd met zaagsel en kleren met braaksel.
Drug addicts are described as mysterious and untrustworthy people with empty minds and disgusting appearance.
Geen kies meer om te kauwen, je kan ze niet vertrouwen en je kan niet om ze rouwen als ze sterven in de koude.
Drug addicts are unreliable people with broken teeth whom you cannot rely on, even if they die from their addiction.
Ze stinken als een skunk en zien er uit als een punk, het is een vuile vieze gore teringjunk.
Drug addicts smell very bad, look like punks, and are described as dirty, disgusting, and sick.
Overal kom je die zielepieten tegen, ze liggen uitgemergeld te beven in de regen.
Drug addicts can be seen everywhere, appearing as vulnerable and emaciated people who shake in the rain.
Hun haren die kleven en hun enige reden om te leven is om er na te streven zichzelf een shot te geven.
Drug addicts' hair is dirty and sticky, and their sole purpose in life is to get a drug fix.
Dump die junk want het is hun eigen schuld, stinkend rijke dealers die ()lachen zich een bult.
Drug addicts are responsible for their addiction, and drug dealers who profit from it are evil and hypocritical.
Want zeg nou zelf, ze begonnen ooit zelf, ze kopen het zelf, ze roken het zelf, ze spuiten ook zelf, en ze snuiven ook zelf, ze stelen steeds zelf en verspreiden aids zelf, ze verloren zichzelf, dus vermoorden zichzelf, ze doen het godverdomme toch allemaal zelf.
Drug addicts are fully aware of the consequences of their actions and are responsible for their addiction and the harms they cause to themselves and others.
Dus een ding wat ik niet heb is medelijden, je kan niet eens normaal meer met de metro rijden.
The singer feels no compassion for drug addicts due to their harmful impact on society, even making it difficult to use public transit.
Dan zit er weer zo'n sukkel te stinken z'n rotzooi, als ze niet zo vies waren gaf je ze een rotgooi.
Drug addicts' presence is repulsive, and people would be inclined to harm them if they were not so dirty and smelly.
Lege holle ogen kijken wel maar zien niets en zodra de (coke/dope) uitwerkt jatten ze je fiets.
Drug addicts have empty eyes that cannot perceive reality, and once the effects of their drug wear off, they steal.
Zit er zo'n verslaafde tussen de beschaafde mensen, ga je wensen dat die zombie z'n laatste trip maakt en voordat ie weer een huis kraakt stik doordat ie op z'n rug ligt en braakt.
Drug addicts are so repulsive that when they are around other people, they provoke the desire that they die in the most humiliating way after a drug binge and stealing from others.
Ouders zeggen dat een drugsdealer maar gemeen is, maar ze weten niet dat hun eigen zoon er een is.
Drug dealers are seen as mean people by parents, unaware that their own children may be involved in drug dealing.
Je bent tegen drugs trut, lik m'n penis, niet de drug maar de gebruiker is wat het probleem is,
Anti-drug propaganda is seen as misguided because the drugs are not the problem; rather, it is the user who abuses them.
Want zonder de gebruikers ook geen illegaal handel, geen mafia, geen gangsters en geen dealers aan de wandel.
Drug users create demand that feeds into the illegal drug market, in turn enabling drug trafficking, organized crime, and violent behavior.
Maar door die junks zegt (een dopeman) "Waarom niet? Ik heb geld en macht en neuk elke griet."
Drug addicts allow drug dealers to amass power and wealth, which leads to immoral and exploitative behavior.
Maar wacht maar af, want eenmaal zal je niet lachen, en zal de concurrent bij je binnenkomen raggen.
Drug dealers will eventually meet their comeuppance when a rival dealer attacks them.
Of door een hinderlaag grijpt de smeris je in je kraag, en in de bajes wordt je reet ontmaagd.
Drug dealers will also face arrest and punishment, where they may be raped by fellow inmates.
En als je weer vrij komt kun je nergens belanden, want degene die je ... waren zijn nu vijanden.
Upon release from prison, drug dealers face little future prospects and are ostracized by former allies and enemies alike.
Je mooie boot werd gekraakt als een noot, en iemand schoot je makkers dood met lood in hun boot, zodat ze als een idioot stierven in hun blote kloot, in een goot, in een grote sloot van bloedrood
Drug dealers are often subject to violence, such as their luxury boat being robbed and their associates being shot and left to die.
Teringjunk, in plaats van de straat af te likken, moeten jullie allemaal verplicht afkicken.
Drug addicts are seen as subhuman and should be forced to undergo rehabilitation.
En als je dat weigert dan is dat fijn, dan kicken wij je af, van de rand van een ravijn.
If drug addicts refuse rehabilitation, they should be pushed off the edge of a cliff.
Want jullie karakter is jullie zwakte, vroeger deed je stoer totdat je drugs pakte.
Drug addicts are weak-willed people with poor character who mistakenly believe drugs make them cool or tough.
Je gebruikte steeds meer en voelde je te gek, maar nu gebruikt de drugs jou en je prikt je aders lek.
Drug addicts become addicted to the drugs they once used casually and then suffer from injecting the drugs.
De naalden gaan van de ene arm in de andere, wanneer gaat dit nou godverdomme eens veranderen.
Drug addicts continually inject themselves and do not seem to change their behavior, frustrating others.
Als het aan mij ligt nu meteen, een methadonbus met een gratis overdosis voor iedereen.
The singer would like to address the drug crisis by offering free methadone treatment and lethal overdoses to drug addicts.
En voor alle junks die nog kunnen nadenken en zich afvragen of er nou hoop is, yo Seda, schop die beat d'r in en laat ze horen wat jouw dope is!
For the drug addicts who may be questioning their addiction, the song encourages them to listen to the music and find an alternative form of satisfaction.
Contributed by Colin L. Suggest a correction in the comments below.