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What Matters
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Dane Davenport We all have our demons and angels sitting on our…
Dogwood The message still the same. The prayers always change. A…
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Most interesting comments from YouTube:

macronencer

7y↑26

I once wrote this in a poem:

I believe in paradox:
I believe free will
Rides valiant on the mighty steed
Of space-time's rolling mill.

In the absence of belief in the supernatural, a knowledge of physics inevitably leads to the acceptance of 'hard' determinism. However, I always strive to remember these two things:
(1) Even if free will is an illusion, it's one that seems to work much of the time, so relax.
(2) If Many Worlds Interpretation (of quantum mechanics) is true, then it's possible to have both free will AND determinism: every decision you make plays out in all possible outcomes, but you only get to experience one of them, so in a sense you've 'made a choice' without violating the laws of physics. I admit this is a very unscientific hypothesis, but it's one I like to hold because it gives me some comfort :)

Mega Mangos

7y↑1

Out of all these videos, this one Desperately needs a part two. Using an outside view of this question and of Defeatism Vs. Aspiration need to be expanded on even deeper, as I feel the implication that you can and should swap between these two equally useful viewpoints as needed is extremely useful in Mental Therapy and life in general. The concept of being able to let go of the overall question of being right or wrong, and actually using philosophical concepts to fit the situation should be taught everywhere. That's main one goal of philosophy, not to be right and prove others wrong, but to be able to make the best possible choices in life based on your readily available evidence. Because sometimes you'll be happier going your own way like a dog exploring the woods, or you'll be happy being pulled towards something you desire, like a dog to the food bowl.

Lengthy Post Warning:

I think a good place to start and help grasp the deeper concepts here would be to continue the dog and leash analogy and go further into the mental concept of the leash itself.

To create a base point, let's say you're a comatose vegetable with no brain activity. Obviously, you have no control or mind to do so, so the analogy would be that your leash length is zero and tied directly to the cart. From that starting zero, what determines the length of the leash? One such measure could be wealth, thereby allowing you to buy anything and be anywhere. Or would it be simply willpower? (where does that willpower originate? Fame? Social Power? Just an over-inflated ego?) But, this leash also comes with the problems of maintaining that length/wealth/willpower, which will make you beholden to other individuals (Chairmen & Investors, Customers, Family, etc) who deal with your income, life, and outcome of your actions. So is this leash really as long as it appears or do more social contracts shorten it?

Further, if you are held responsible by more people, the analogy could go on to say you have not just one, but many different leashes, each pulling on you at different tensions. So, do we have any actual control of the length of the leash AND the number of leashes around our necks? Sure, you can sever ties with people, gain some extra length by working on financial goals. But some leashes appear unbreakable or stagnant, like trying to run faster than a tiger or trying in vain to make a wealthy/upper class individual favor you over their own kin.

I could go on, but in Summation: What determines the length of the lease? How many leashes are there? And, is it possible to alter any of these leashes at all? Sometimes, we all need a little direction/defeatism and a little freedom/aspiration, and the amounts could change even daily.

Unique Stuff

@Jake Foster This is the thing, we have limted free will. Right. Rest energy and our time gets consumed by our habitual thought patterns. Now to create new habits, people often tune into self help books. Since we can learn more from other expereince and it help us to understand things and to change the course of our life.
As to learn something, we have to go through a journey. Then, once we learned a thing. And practice alot. Then we will not forget it. It will become the part of our life for instance, reading skill, writing skill, or video editing skill.

Similarly, the extent of free will get inhanced, when we invest our life into understanding and exploring life. There are many ways, such as yoga, mediation, studying and analysing things. If you could able to devote yourself to this process. The whole life would become open to you. Do whatever you want. Then it would be like, as Shakespere wrote.
All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players: they have their exits and their entrances.

As the investment increase, during the journey, may be so painful to you. But as the learning is painful, one should keep going. In the end, it reward you in so many ways, that your investment would seem nothing as compare to possibilites.
For this reason, Einstein said:
Imagination is greater than knowledge.

Szpulenso

5y↑1

I am extremely confused about broader implications of fully embracing deterministic ideas.

I wonder, is there any motivation for improvement in a deterministic philosophical stance? Since I cannot choose to stick to my diet, I can really just witness if my illusory 'self' is strong enough to resist a temptation prompted by unconscious systems (perhaps activity of: hypothalamus, hormones produced to a cue of a juicy cheesburger, memory traces, blood sugar levels etc.)

When "I" successfully go through with my diet, "I" cannot take credit for that as every time "I" have struggled with many different options such as: - eating a donut or nor eating it, - bravely resisting tempations in spite of a hunger, - switching to a completely different diet, - denying futility of sticking to a diet, - believing that a given diet will bring positive changes to my life,

... all these and many more, potential options, actions, and mental states, are nothing but information entering my field of consciousness. "My" decision to continue with a diet in spite of difficulties is also an inevitable consequence of previous mental states that "I" do not control.

Therefore, virtues of temperance, willpower, etc. are nothing more but labels that we stick onto individuals fortunate enough to have neuroarchitecture and life experience that yield their exemplary actions.

With this knowledge, how then can you sustain your motivation, knowing that nothing you ever did (or will do), was a result of your independent choice? Hey, since my failure of an exam was inevitable, as will be my decision to repeat it, or dropping from university, or joining military ,or committing suicide, etc. etc...

Fred Lada

Start with the basis before getting into the most illusionary thing about life.
Have you decided to be born in the first place ? What about the way you look ? The education you were given ? The social status you were brought into ? Your ethnics ? Your culture ? Your language ? Make sure you answer these questions before drawing any conclusion about your emotions….

Everything was predetermined, inside and from the very first human being. We can track you and your family roots, and can go back to the past from where you originate, even before the first man was created and the breath of life was put into him, there, you where thought of and predetermined to be born into this world one day. You dont need to believe in this, it is just plain fact, it has nothing to do with belief.

What Yeshua, whom we call Jesus, the Christ, said, is that « before Abraham was, i am ». He not only spoke for himself but explained how things and people were made, that is that before Adam was, you were, and so was i, and everybody else you see, they were in Adam.
Yeshua didnt say Adam, because the jews elevated Abraham above all previous men, including Noah and other prophets.

Science proves everything is predetermined, and so does science prove God is the truth.

Nobody said it is easy to receive the truth, the fact that you never choose anything, from the day you were born to the day of your death, or even i, two years later, writing this message to you at this very exact moment. This reaction i am having, why particularly you and not another comment ?all i can tell you is that everything is God’s will, and God’s will only, otherwise there would be nothing, because we all know none of us is doing anything after all, that we dont own any energy from ourselves. You know damn well you do not choose to breathe for yourself, the ideas you have, the dreams you dream, all of these are given by a higher force and power, it is God.

iam_bryan012 Rodriguez

@goaliedude32 yeah that's basically what I wrote in the comment above, most of our life, who we are, who we will be in the future, things that happen or will happen to us are all out of our control meaning that free will is almost inexistent and i say "almost" inexistent because even though we don't accept it there are some aspect of our life we can control, small things that can sometimes lead to big changes, so if free will exist, it exist but in a really small aspect of our life, the rest is up to other people decisions, universe or luck, things like being rejected from a Job, you wanted to get that job so bad and did everything you could to get that job that could change your life but other people decides not to give you the job so this is one of multiple ways we only have control in really small aspect of our life.

There are lots of people starting busyness and doing lots of things to become rich, some of them will be rich others won't, while some people are born in millionare households and have to do nothing in life to get money just ask for it.

Probably there's an athlete training averyday to become one of the best in the sport he plays, but suddenly he gets sick or run over by a vehicle, things he couldn't control.

So i say 50% of our life results are decisions we make, the other 50% is up to other people desicions, the universe as they say or luck, things that just happens and are out of everyone control

All comments from YouTube:

Lifa Dysi

7y↑398

"We may be powerless to alter certain events, but we will always be free to choose our attitude towards them." That is if our attitude hasn't already been predetermined.

Lifa Dysi

@Sam Random Guy I would've replied with more, but I honestly don't really want to get into this. Things are either predetermined or not.

Lifa Dysi

@Sam Random Guy "That is if our attitude hasn't already been predetermined". I never stated predetermined for certain, but it is a possibility.

Sam Random Guy

2y↑1

Hold on, assuming the logic of your statement. Does it mean that we are never responsible for the things we commit and the decisions we choose? Say for example, if a person commits murder, he can reason, "I'm not responsible, for I was predetermined to commit murder". You see, if we assume that one has no free will, various problems can arise.

Dari F

According to Hinduism all is predetermined. Sometimes I wonder what is the point?

Abdullah Hani

3y↑1

@Karl Hans are you deat yet or @Lifa Dysi saved you?

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Rorschach 0007

7y↑341

The universe is either predetermined by some laws and you cannot do anything but follow them or its decided by randomness at a level we cannot measure and our actions will have unintended consequences, either way I'll eat this whole bucket of ice cream

HiddenWen

@Any Minor World That Breaks Apart For a lot of people, the ride isn't very pleasant.

Sonicz Forever

😄 thanks

Philippe

Exactly

Abraham

@Any Minor World That Breaks Apart wow

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Water Existing

7y↑12

This topic sounds very useful to our daily life and can reduce our agony from various fields(such as love, career, etc..). It also reminds me the famous quote, "God, give us grace to accept with serenity the things that cannot be changed, courage to change the things that should be changed, and the wisdom to distinguish the one from the other."

Mrblend27

7y↑254

Do we have free will?
“Of course, we have no choice”

Jun Kai Chan

So I say we don't have free will?
"its your call"

seven hours behind

4y↑4

@A N It may be argued that their crime-doing behavior was predetermined. It may be argued that it's their fate to live that "bad" life.

Matthew

@ariffred01 LOL :"D

Man of God

4y↑10

Jack Mehoff prisoners are bring to the jail to keep us safe out of these people.

Jack Mehoff

@temporary Traveler bro. When did they ever say that?

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J. P.M.

7y↑550

The title of this video should be something like "Believe whatever you want about free will".

Max’s LEGO StopMotion

we still dont choose what we believe

Micah B.

That’s an amazing title

FreeGoeland

yes, this is just passing the buck...

EYE (Escape Your Escape)

@Canadian Swift Water Swimming Isn't your statement one of conjecture as opposed to even remote fact? I can say that I didn't have to respond to you but I chose to do so and you could say I was destined to respond to you regardless of the choice and it would seem to me that there is much more evidence to support my view than yours. I do believe in destiny to an extent and I also recognize that my belief or lack there of is not the deciding factor which determines the validity and existence of what is believed or not believed but I cannot see the value in everything being predetermined. That being said, I would like to know why others believe and see the value in predetermination.

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Rhythm Khandelwal

2y↑3

I believe it's a combination of both, some moments are absolute points and are pre determined while some gives us choices

macronencer

7y↑26

Villager_27

@macronencer By looking at these facts as an objectivist-compatibilist, I definitely agree with you.🙂👌

Besides, there's also sufficient evidence in the scientific community to support the existence of free will (which came in the product of evolution, where living beings that make conscious choices tend to surivive more✅ than those that dont)
https://slate.com/technology/2013/09/free-will-debate-what-does-free-will-mean-and-how-did-it-evolve.html

Hence, I agree with you and its the reasonable and sensible statement to have.👍

sam

@macronencer i think its a disgrace to humanity. shame on you sir, shame on you. remove this horrid poem

macronencer

@xX_XxXxX_Xx Thanks!

xX_XxXxX_Xx

4y↑3

i know it's been 3 years, but i just wanna say: nice poem, pal

Curious Entity

But what if, still, everyone's choise combined (totality of conscious beingd combined) is what determine which universe we go to?
Like, we are 3 beings and tons of atoms. Atoms' actions and influence in which universe we tend to is out of our hands, but our decisions, we the 3, of doing hundereds of different things (moving hands or thinking about doughnuts) will lead the branching (within the universe atoms lead to from possible worlds) to specific universe?
More like the dog and the leash but within the choices we ourselves can choose. More like the free will is meant in the choices we may have, not those out of hands.

Shobhit Jain

3y↑1

Such thought-provoking videos! I love this channel. It helps me to understand reality and myself in a much better way! Thank you!😄🙌🙏

Mega Mangos

7y↑1

Atari11000

4y↑3

In my introduction to philosophy book by Korman, desires are said to be one of the problems with free will since we can’t control our desires or even desire defeating decisions to change our desires. Baron Hol’bach really talked about free will in that book while Korman provided counter examples to each argument like desire and determinism. The balance between our desires and what we cannot change wasn’t mentioned in the book. But my course is to teach how philosophy works, not ethics so it made sense. A beautiful balanced message ending :)

Coach McGuirk

7y↑1

Every decision we make, every action we take, everything that happens anywhere anytime ever is influenced by the history of the universe up to that point. So you always have the freedom to make your choices, but everything is predetermined.

Panos M.

7y↑5

I don't necessarily mind the fact that all your videos are pretty much theoretical all the way but I think that providing us with examples when needed is going to help us understand what you are talking about considerably .
Thank you!

dazzykin

7y↑4

I simply love how the animation is always so well thought out on your videos

Alin Barba

4y↑9

''Man is greater then anything he can say about himself''- Alan Watts

Ellie Victoria

I love this channel, so much food for thought x

Paul Burger

7y↑637

I feel like he misses the point of the debate. The question is not wether one is more beneficial, but rather which one is most objectively true.

Umar Nallamilli

No, you missed the whole point of the video. He mentioned that his point is not to explain which is objectively true but to advise us to adopt a useful balance of both attitudes.

Matteo Slaviero

The fact ur lookin for an answer shows ur lookin at this topic with all the wrong intentions

Joe Campbell

@Victor Cates It only works because we have the power of willing it to be so, aka, we have free will. If we didn't have free will, no amount of "effort" would get you to "do" anything.

mohamed khouzari

Thank you for saying it, i dont know how he has 10k likes and only 500 dislikes.

Being Sapient

Yeah, I was looking for that answer

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Kelly Fishbeck

Some of this reminds me of discussions I had during recovery (which is not necessarily to say, "the tenants of AA taught me this," but more, "while in an AA meeting I had this discussion with others.) It's atleast worthy of examination, especially (in my opinion) when discussing the concept of "am I in control of my own happiness (fulfilledness, contentedness, etc)?"

Joey Sung

7y↑32

It's not really a contribution to the age-long debate, but rather a reframing of the question-
placing it into context of the emotional implications the argument, why or why not one may be motivated to believe in free will/determinism. I agree with the notion that our own emotional disposition plays a large role in whether we favor the idea of free will or determinism over the other. It certainly prompted me to introspect on my own deterministic outlook, and its possible relationship with my own emotional experiences of failure.

I believe that nobody is compelled to believe in either determinism or free will based on purely rational, or intellectual grounds.

However, SoL's approach may be seen as to detract from the free will debate itself by disregarding the question at hand, or reducing it to an irrelevant matter of preference.

David Williams

Either approach is an act of faith but doesnt have much significance either way

David Williams

@Sequoyah no, everyone is biased based on what they want to be true

TheShermanTanker

Still don't get why determinism disproves free will. Our choices are limited by the environment yes, but the choices are still ours to make

Sequoyah

7y↑1

That sounds completely reasonable to me. If you read something, or hear an argument which makes you think about something in a new way, then of course you should be open to changing your mind. Moreover if you have a view which is being challenged in is important that you go away and make a real effort to try and exposure yourself to differing opinions in order to be as confident as you can be that you are indeed correct.

I guess my real objection to this video was that I didn't feel it was taking the nuanced position that you seem to be, namely that there might be good reason to question whether we have sufficient justifications for our beliefs, but instead seemed to be advocating a position that we could simply adapt our beliefs to whichever view best suited us at the time.

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Michael Wu

7y↑362

Man can do what he wills, but he cannot will what he wills. - Schopenhauer

phulmetal

2y↑1

Haha thank you. Finally somebody who makes sense on the subject.

iarguephilosophy

it doesn't mean anything to 'will a will', you can just keep asking what willed the will that willed the will that...

Peter Episcopo BASS

2y↑1

Shopenhauer is underrated

Micah B.

3y↑1

I’ve thought a lot about this. And either most quotes like this are really deep, and have meaning, or they’re just a play on words that leave it up to you to determine the meaning.

Michael Wu

@psyenergy1 What about addicts, sex offenders, people with Tourette’s, etc.

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Ashley Valentin

4y↑1

It's really interesting that you look at the two as more of a sliding scale, rather than in black and white terms. So I should consider shifting my perspective on the scale depending on the situation I'm in. I got a lot out of this lecture; thank you!

Umut Ciniviz

Congrats, this is one of the best interpretation of Free will and determinizm I've ever encountered with 👏👏👏👏👏

Laura Kaye Music 8

All of the illustrations on these videos are brilliant - hats off to the producer/s ❤️

REBEL LOGIC

7y↑1

It’s a mixture of the two because every action and thought comes from another and originally .. they are either determined by us, the universe, circumstances or other people

Richard Kelch

5y↑6

I knew so much premonition in my life....thousands of things, as a theme of my mostly set life and surroundings I will know. I tried, in my mind, to change the outcomes and I have yet to change the premonition results. If I did alter anything; I still was not powerful enough to alter the stronger patterns of power over me.

Mercedes Reynoso

4y↑1

Richard Kelch me too. I have experienced life as you have, something's are completely unalterabe and already set and won't or can't be changed yet religious people say that we have a choice and can affect outcomes.

Samuel Rather

7y↑13

The fact that we ask this question with those two possibilities in mind just means that they are both occuring and true.

Gajendra Rathod

2y↑3

May be we can't decide our attitude as many are saying that might be predetermined but I think if we learn to think and imagine the probabilities that can happen by our actions then we can somehow create our future. It's just like chess game where you imagine future probabilities and move accordingly (consciously) and not randomly just to timepass.

Areté

7y↑43

To a degree things are pretedetermined you don't choose where you're born,your parents,envirement ,talents, areas u might greatly excell in. But a degree of free will is a luxury given to individuals who are awake and not asleep under influence of social conditing,others,envirement . Whether u end up in prosperous or miserable life circumstance to a large degree depends on you and if you cooperate with life not to mention your reaction to what happens to you can impact whether future event may be beneficial to you or not.

GTX750GUY

4y↑1

@Karl Hans be positive and be rational too :) good luck with your life

Karl Hans

@Mr Meow i was born to fail at life. Born ugly, bullied by father,, bad childhood and teenhood, cant get a gf, all these experiences lead me to do bad decisions as an adult. You see how all the pieces come together? I was predetermined to fail by way of domino effect.

Areté

4y↑3

@Sam certain factors within a life lane are predetermined but a choice to switch to a different more favourable one is yours .

Creator Chris

5y↑2

GODDAFUCKING DAMMIT !!! FINALY SOMEONE WITH SOME SENSE !!! THANK ANYTHING THERE IS IM NOT ALONE !!!!

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Silvan Barrow

Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the bravery to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.

R E A

7y↑401

Even if we believe in the free will, there will always be some things that are not in our control and there will be things we cannot explain. If we believe in determinism, we can and should still do things, because what is supposed to happen will happen, but this doesn't mean we should just sit on our ass and observe the world. Never mind what our belief system is, doing what we can and letting things be if we cannot change them, that is the best recipe.

Biscuit Oliva

Okay so if I'm predetermined to be a crack head, then I should accept my fate?

Unique Stuff

Jake Foster

4y↑3

@Unique Stuff Is it though? To answer your question , according to hard determinism (which I don't know if I actually believe in. I'm just playing devil's advocate here) yes, that is a predetermined act. We are not in control of our actions. Everything is predetermined. Everything. You were also predetermined to believe that person would be using their free will. Does that mean they shouldn't be thrown in prison? No. Of course they should, but "should" is meaningless; either they will or they won't. That will have already been determined. Think of it like this:

Murderer: "I cannot be found guilty because I have no free will."
Judge: "I hereby find you guilty because I have no free will."

Like I said, I don't know if I actually believe all that. I tend to believe we have limited free will within certain parameters, as in we have a disposition to make one choice or the other, but won't necessarily bend to that disposition (For example, you can be genetically predisposed to get cancer, but that doesn't mean you will definitely get cancer.). Sometimes I do believe in hard determinism, though. I haven't made up my mind (regardless if that's a choice or not ha).

Emmanuel Goldstein

@akshay Viswambharan even with hard determinism, there will always be criminals. The problem with crime rate is not free will.

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Tim Charlier

The conclusion has been also explained by Tolstoy. He stated that the frame in which we are able to make choice is insignificant but what really matters is our capacity to walk willingly through fate rather than being dragged by it.

MaximeLT

7y↑3

Great video ! I love the stoic perspective on this subject !
"It's in an unprotesting acceptance of determinism that we find serenity"
It seems to be from the great Spinoza ! :)

You're right to say determinism can be perceive from different point of view, like class, genetic, politic ...
From these perspective, it seems clear that our free will is totally reduce by external facts.
But there is an other perspective : physics perspective. Matter obey to law of physics which are invariable. Human is made by matter, thoughts probably come from chemical reactions (matter) so.... from this perspective free will is a total illusion.

Jefff

I can relate to this my overall life by thinking of when I'm in traffic. There are things I can control such as checking Google Maps for traffic jams and planning my route. But there are things I can't control. Like when every possible route has something going on, which I have had on many occasions. Then when I'm sitting in traffic, I stay calm by reminding myself that I can't control it. Yelling at the cars in front will not make it move. Now this goes out the window when I'm running late and I'm on a road that never has traffic but except now.

Jane Gavin

3y↑1

Yes everything is predetermined, I've seen it myself inside my own mind.

Amaar

7y↑1

When we as individuals suffer, we can find consolation in the idea of predeterminism but the notion that things like genocides being decided in advance and that such events are immutable forces me to believe in free will.

Odara Rumbol

7y↑3

This was AMAZING! The illustration and animation was wonderful!

Aidén Lisandro Jiménez Rodríguez

I had never seen this problem with a stoic approach. This was a very good video!

J z

5y↑1

I have no words brother! Such an amazing views and prospective!
Thank you man!

Scrap Mechanic Labs

Emotional intelligence sounds like a contradiction but sometimes when you ask the question is as important as understanding the answer.

Ryan Smith

7y↑213

try to know the next thought you’re going to think, the next idea that’ll pop into your head. most things are subconscious or simply out of our control

VEVO hitz

I predicted my next thought would be thinking about this stupid ass comment. For every Action there is an equal and opposite reaction, what was the first.

King Taylor

3y↑2

@Mark Hollingsworth listen I'm sorry but free will doesn't exist nor does responsibility, that's just the way it is people for some reason are in denial about that, buts its just the truth, you are no worse than Gandhi and you are no better than Hitler

seven hours behind

4y↑1

never heard of it that way. interesting.

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Elif

7y↑1

This gave me inspiration to do something practical in my life

J z

5y↑1

I have no words brother! Such an amazing views and prospective!
Thank you man!

Plaebian

Well, that's ironic bcs you are writing a series of words.

Szpulenso

5y↑1

koba

To achieve serenity, all I need is to hear Alain de Botton's voice at least once a week.

ENILE AHMED

Splended, this video was well made and I love it

dontchastop

5y↑1

Defeatism vs. Aspiration. Another reason to love this channel.

dontchastop

5y↑1

We are never without a leash around our neck.

ƁᴇғᴏʀᴇƮʜᴇļɴᴛᴇʀɴᴇᴛ

7y↑1

Our consciousness is as casually determined as everything else in the universe.

Axol Otl

Thank you, I appreciate this perspective on the debate.

Visual Knowledge

Interesting style of animation, for example the brain animation sequence was unusual but eye catching. Good audio dialogue and as usual an engaging script.

Gerald wood Ny

7y↑1

We have a predetermined set of choices that are specific to us

Lamia

5y↑37

Isn’t the biggest life lesson that most of is have in common is how we react to events in life.

Fred Lada

GrappleBerries

I follow both determinism and aspiration, while I see technical correctness in determinism I also agree that the emotions and workings of the human brain tend to misunderstand what it really means; it doesn't mean fate or an inability to change for example, just that these outcomes follow from the past and whatever state of wiring your brain currently is in and that the very knowledge of determinism is an event that can affect what you are 'determined' to do.

Jayjay Simmons

2y↑2

If there is no free will, how can I choose my reaction to external or even internal events? I believe we have free will; otherwise, we might as well not have been born.

Michele

Good video. I just finished this book by Rabbi Dr. Shmuel Asher, The Land of Meat and Honey. Why do you believe what you believe and many truths and hidden biblical understanding brought to light. Your consent and free will explained. This book really spoke to me and answered a lot of questions I was searching for. I found it on Amazon.

Manuel Rego

7y↑2

A proper School of Life video, like back in the day? Wow!

Atypical Moto

7y↑11

"For fate the willing leads, the unwilling drags along"

-Cleanthes

Sequoyah

7y↑13

I fundamentally do not accept the premise that you can choose to believe something just because there is some utility in doing so. If you are convinced that the world is determined and that, because of this, free will in a nonsensical concept then you will be unable to simply abandon this belief purely because in a moment of dejection it would make you happier.

Furthermore, one way or another, there is an objectively right and wrong answer to this question, and which answer is correct has profound ramifications for how we assess the praise and blameworthiness of actions and individuals. To take a postmodernist stance that it is all subjective ducks a really interesting a consequential debate in philosophy.

Bennick

7y↑3

The future will always ultimately have one outcome ; at some point, one event out of many choices will come to pass. True free will is impossible for your singular, subjective experience because of this very nature of time and life.

Ultimately, it doesn't really matter. The illusion of freewill has been with you up to this point and you've been as okay as can be expected. I feel this video misses the point of the question.

dadedraak

This video was very relevant to the pondering thoughts I had today.

Hazel Goodman

7y↑3

I find it wonderfully liberating to observe 'my' actions, body and thoughts. Even attitude to events is ultimately not mine. Ultimately, as Consciousness, not projection, we are freeeee.

Mercy Mburu

It's interesting to see that this channel also has a train of thought it follows. This was my next question after the suicide video. It raised questions about assigning blame to people for their own failures in life.
The battle of the loci!

F.C Weaboomer

In short, understand and find your balance between what you can and cant change

Patryslaw Frackowiak

"Each of us needs to decide for ourselves whether we should have a greater faith in Determinism or in Free Will."

Geoffrey Theadore Cornelius Crawford

7y↑29

If brains are complex machines made up of systems that respond mechanically to stimuli, then isn't everything we ever do in life technically pre-determined and calculatable? By this logic, wouldn't everything that came before us, since the big bang, and everything that is to come, all be pre-determined?

Tiny Robot

True to only a certain extend but we know for a fact that random ness exists even if it is in a quantum level so even if you were able to calculate how every partical moves and since particulars since just randomly pop in and out of existence you still won't be able to know the future at its100%. so for better or worst furture is uncertain and everything is not decided. Let's say you flip a coin eather it is heads or tails the outcome is not decided before hand so you can pridict which side it is going to fall but it does not mean you know it . knowing and guessing are different things guessing relies on probality and just because it is probable it does not gareuntee you that it is certainty and determined Also unlike computer we have the ability to prioritize which information do we chose to take in and interact with. Genetically and environmentally Some information you may be more likely to interact with but just because it is more likely doesn't mean it is determined.

Jason Williams

6y↑1

Free will is an illusion though. This is fact.

Philosophical Mind

yep

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Prince Kalender

3y↑4

Having a destiny makes a lot of sense and free us from a lot of anxiety.

orange just do it

I believe that the things we do are the outcome of actions that took place before our actions.
But the believe in a free will is giving us the empowerment and spirit to act. In difference to that, the believe in determinism gives us an impression of having no choice in life. That results, in my opinion, in an negative thinking wich blocks an active and self-fullfilling life. That might sound like a paradoxon, but it think that an active life needs the believe in a free will and self-made choices to accomplish and succes. To sum it up: I believe in determinism from a scientific point of view. From a human point of view, that looks to manage everyday life, wich can`t result on scientific thinking in every moment, i think it´s more succesful to believe in a free will. So, what´s your opinion on that?

goaliedude32

7y↑100

5:05

"We always remain free to choose our attitude towards them"

We are not even free in that way. You will adopt an attitude that fits in with your past experiences and current state of mind.

Dari F

Indeed. Our Mind and all it’s working are already predetermined. Vedic Astrology has good answers about that. So the choices we will make are already predestined to lead us to a certain outcome.
Bhagavat Gita says it too. We are not the real doer. And there is something scary and sad in all of that.

Milo-

@Karl Hans Don’t think that way everything in life comes with 2 sides. You have 2 lungs 2 sides of the brain, 2 arms and legs, 2 eyes and the list goes on and on we even have 4 heart chambers 2 on top and 2 below. We have good and bad. Everything in this universe is balanced out even though it is expierenced as chaotic everything is balanced out. So you might have a bad life so far but eventually you will have good coming to you. You have to believe that. And you”ll see that your life will shape to it.

iam_bryan012 Rodriguez

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jellyberg

7y↑8

Not sure about this one Alain... interesting idea nonetheless! But the thought that whether we do have free will or not surely is worth considering? Not just whether it is more beneficial to believe so. Seems like a dangerous idea that the truth of how the world actually is should be disregarded, in favour of just believing whatever makes our lives better. Thought experiment: if I am happier and lead a more fulfilling life if I believe that the earth is flat, should I avoid pursuing the truth and believe it?

Plaebian

@Kevin - Can really ignorance makes a better person ?

Kevin

7y↑4

That makes an interesting philosophical question. In my opinion, that depends, if your happiness means negatively impacting other people through your beliefs, then that's not a good thing. But if your ignorance makes you a better person for yourself and for others, why is there a need for truth? "When ignorance is bliss, it's folly to be wise."

Christopher Rios

It is the erroneous view that we exist separately from anything that happens that leads to confusion in this regard. We are collectively the will of all that is. Predetermism and free will are one in the same. Through absolute acceptance and ultimately surrender to the way we achieve a conscious understanding of this.

She tang

The real question is being avoided. The ability to change our reality, and the choice between defeatism and aspiration, is NOT up to us. Its all a matter of wether you beieve in cause and effect. Destiny is set.

Nolan Evans

I've always wanted Radical Freedom. True and untamed. We may be free to have ideas yet we all seem to do certain things that we all share. We are all pushed to do certain things and as such, we are not truly free. Our choices are determined by others. Even those attempting to end their lives are stopped often not by themselves, but by others

Rodney Dela Peña

3y↑3

Life is literally an AAA game or a game with a story. You can do whatever you want to do in that game but you still have to follow the story and its objectives to move on.

Eileen Hearne

this was so wonderful for me to watch . helped me very much. thank u

Wheeler

3y↑4

Are we really free to choose how we react to things happening we cannot control?

Absol StoryofFiction

You are designed to react with a choice... If only there was a HUD.

Chicken Of the Cave

7y↑3

I know I control my own life and what happens in it. Otherwise a lot of stuff that I’ve done would’ve never happened

Fer du Port

Love your channel intensely. Thanks so much

Shiraori

We all have free will and a predetermined destiny. The result only depends on which we wanna consult

Etona

7y↑14

Whether there is free will or not it is up to you, no one has the answer to the absolute truth but you because you are the only one who can choose what your truth is. Furthermore, at life there are things that are out of your control and there are also things that is are only under your control, it is easy to confuse the two but instead of seeing them as black and white, just as previously discussed in earlier SOL videos, you must find ambivalence to differentiate the two and take the proper course of action for the situation.

Jason Williams

6y↑3

You don't choose though because free will doesn't exist.

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AdamWho

This problem has largely been solved using fMRI machines in the last decade.

We have conscious free-will but we have lots of pre-conscious processes that happen automatically and then we rationalize free-will about these decisions. Basically, in all the ways that matter to human beings, we have free will

Vodugue

6y↑1

What if the future already happened? Think about it. If someone were to go the future (if it is possible), then saw me, you, and/or any other people did somethings before us and/or others did. Later, they go back to the present and saw us did the same thing from the future but during the present, then in that case, it could be true. But short times are more predictable tho.

Gabriel Enrique Martínez Llano

Another excellent video :)

Geminellie06

5y↑1

I love this channel! I need this channel! Thank you!

Marvin Edwards

5y↑1

A rather unique perspective. Nicely done.

Georg E

What if one fully believes in determinism but is still willing to work hard on self-improvent and achieving greater things in life?

Bulent Basaran

One of the better videos from this channel. Know the truth and that will set you free. What truth? Your essence, beyond the programmed body, is free.

Marvi Yeremia

7y↑1

Everything has a particular set of patterns, thus everything is predetermined

MrClEaNMON55

3y↑3

There is an interesting conversation about this but at the end of the day it’s pretty much pointless because we certainly feel like we have free will

Griffins Stower

3y↑1

I think we hover between a state of free will and a predetermined one.. The two coexist.. Another question what If freewill is part of the fate..?

NaturalisTed

The fact that we cannot know the future is why we feel that we have free will - We are the process of reacting to our current situation. We do not actually have free will - because it'd require us to think our thoughts before we think them. Also because we can only do that which occurs to us. If we were in control of what occurs to us we'd also have to be in control of the entire universe.

Oro-Oluwatoromo -The word of the Lord is dependable

I am testifying to the goodness of the Lord! earlier today I was feeling so sick! I could not breathe, I had headaches, sore throat, my eyes were watery so I could not see much but God healed me completely on this very same day! I am serving a living God indeed! If you have not already given your life to Christ do so now by saying, Lord God, I come to repent from my sins (be sincere) please take me Lord I give my life to you! Thank God!!!! May the Lord God be with us all in the mighty name of Jesus Amen! and may God keep us all to live for over 100 years with long life, good health, and prosperity to glorify His name in the mighty name of Jesus Amen! Indeed God is great! Remember we are not alone and God is with us! For I know the plans I have for you declares the Lord plans to prosper you not to harm you plans to give you hope and a future Jeremiah 29:11 and as we should all remember John 3:16 For God so love the world that he gave his only begotten so that whosoever believe in Him shall not perish but shall have everlasting life and Philippians 4:13 I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. : remember that He is God of the hills and valleys and WE ARE NOT ARE NOT ALONE

GTX750GUY

4y↑1

@Man of God medicines too and healthy diet also lifestyle

Man of God

4y↑1

It was your immune system and your organs making you recover. It wasn’t god.

Dimension Exo

3y↑1

✨If it is indeed true that we decide our life before birth :
Then maybe we don't have free choice :
Which brings the question :
Who are we ? 🤔

Dribrom Sunrock

To have free will means that you have the option to do good or to do bad. Free will have never ment that we can do what ever we dream about.

Rishav Singh

While it is inherently true that a lot of factors shape our course of action, belief in the existence of free will, no matter how limited, helps our own aspirations to grow exponentially. Whilst I subscribe to the views mentioned in the video, I would like to point out that with the innate need within humans to attribute failures to outside causes rather than looking inward, the importance of free will is clearly underlined in case of all of us who meet failures and seek to achieve something constructive out of them.

Rodolpho

7y↑3

i cant chose between 'free will' or 'determinism'. even if i knew wich one would make me happier. i dont chose to believe something. i look at the facts and decide which one seems more plausible.chosing one over the other because of preference can only be done by ignoring facts

Sequoyah

7y↑1

Completely agree. The argument is akin to certain religious people who condemn others for not believing which I always find incredible. It's not a choice, one can't believe something which one finds fundamentally unconvincing.

Jaime Castro

Buenas tardes sería posible que le pongan subtítulos en español gracias

Maitri Earth

7y↑1

We aren’t entirely free. However, accepting the degree of un-freedom in our lives can ameliorate much of the stress in our lives as it relinquishes us from the anxiety over the things we have no power over. Allowing greater freedom in how we relate to those things we don’t have power, rather than the focusing on anxiety about not having power over them. Thus in many circumstances we could create more freedom but it is not the freedom that is necessarily satisfying to our egos.

Darkest Timeline

7y↑1

Everyone down here in the comment section is starting debates but I'm just like who cares. This video was saying that you shouldn't care about what others believe but focus on how this question relates to your life. Loved the video

Aura Canela

this is so good! I absolutely agree.

Sesame Seed

7y↑14

"In this world, is the destiny of mankind controlled by some transcendental entity or law? Is it like the hand of God hovering above? At least it is true that man has no control, even over his own will"

TCK TeamCoolKats

6y↑50

What if we’re predetermined to have free will

Abdullah Razack

3y↑1

@Curious Entity Answers just raise more and more questions.

Curious Entity

@Abdullah Razack
So as far as I remember this vid, he was talking about absolutely free will, which no human ever cared to defend. What most of us are concerned about is the desire-driven "free" will. So whenever we, as dear beloved human fellows, indulge in such conversations, it usually goes to "well, but if you did really enjoy your juice, and therefore had the overwhelming desire to take a sip and drink it, then did you really have free will?" And my response would be: "other desires and concerns are there too. If that beverage is not mine, or I had a personal animosity towards that very company that made that juice, say there are other companies, then that concern does affect me and may never promote that company even though I love that juice." So there are desires as well as concerns that affect my decisions. And yes, maybe that concern overrides that great desire of mine to drink that juice. And now replace juice with whatever action that might cross your mind.

Curious Entity

@Razach Shelby
I genuinely appreciate the enquiry.
Regarding (whatever we will think, that will suit his desire), how I think about it is like this.
I'm a sinple human. I have wishes and desires towards me and other beings, humans and animals etc... I have some moral concerns that one could argue that transcends mere materialistic desires, i e. for argument sake, I don't want to eat other humans even if that's my last resort. My point is, some concerns deter other humans' survival, others really transcend them and have no pragmatic utility.
Anything beyond these concerns is pointless to me, personally. Why am I stating this? Because counting how many pages a book has or keeping that copy of it is no concern. So when I observe what factors affect me tearing that copy of the book apart, assume there are thousand copies and not a case of censoring that book. Then that action is meaningless to me as far as I'm concerned. On the other hand, tearing a book that has a personal value would affect my decision making. What ia my point? If I say that I have free will, then that personal book does affect my "free" will, and one could argue that in such case, I don't have really strictly free will in that situation.
Similarly, if there is a desire beyond my awareness that that simulator is keeping away from me, then by the sheer fact that I don't know about it, I will not desire it, and therefore will not affect my decision. So regarding why I believe I have "technically limited-free, not entirely free will" is by observing what I care for only , and that's what I mean by free will. Otherwise, caring about what I personally consider meaningless, to ensure absolute free will, obviously thinking-wise and not physical-wise cuz as I said I can't do every possible physical thing in order for me to care about such actions like caring about stopping Mars' motion. Considering to care about meaningless issues is, duh!, of no concern to me.

Abdullah Razack

@Curious Entity Why would he not want us to believe in free will?
Because free will exists?
That would be too stupid.
Anyways in the end, it questions our reality.
Who are we?
What is our destiny?
What are we supposed to do?

Abdullah Razack

@Curious Entity But what if in the end, whether we believe in free will or not is what he wants.

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guillon rémi

The belief in Free Wil (bullshit imo) or Dterminism is sooooo damn important! The way it builds your mindset i think eventually lead societies to become capitalist ones (free will-liberalism ideology) or socialist/communist (determinism)
To me we're all always ~~100% DETERMINED~~ (Spinoza's philosophy). A translated quote from my favorite french philosopher/economist/sociologist Frédéric Lordon (srly if you speack french go check this guys out!) : "a man always behave the way the conditions he's putted in push him to behave, never differently".
We're all making choices, yes, but we never get to choose the diffrent options of this choice, thus we're actualy not making choices...