Restarting Pumps and Filters After Extended Shutdown
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@OnTheHonda

2y↑30

Autistic knowledge but horrific teacher! Knows every bolt of this insane system, but cannot convey the knowledge. Place has no standard procedure, no checklist. No bookkeeping: “Why is it (chlorine!!) turned off? It shouldn’t be turned off. Let’s turn it on!”

@thepoolguy

2y↑20

Just say you don't understand... it's okay. We forgive you. 🙏

@OnTheHonda

2y↑10

@ThePoolGuy exactly what I expected

@thepoolguy

2y↑22

@Warnichtmehrfrei do you think showing the checklists, the written SOP, our work order software CMMS would be entertaining? I'm just going through the motions my guy. Take a breath, enjoy if you like, leave if you don't. Otherwise, your gonna hate life, and I don't want that for you.

@replaycraig

2y↑8

this system is totally broken. this is how people get hurt or sick.

@thepoolguy

2y↑9

@replaycraig totally broken.... what are talking about...

@jfwfreo

2y↑139

One thing I have learned from watching these videos is that even a "simple" water slide (e.g. the fairly basic looking body slides I see at some local council owned pools in Australia) isn't all that simple under the hood

@nos8624

its pretty simple once youve got it down, its just like a backyard pool but bigger... kinda

@lenjames

2y↑32

Fascinating...how many water parks I've been to and always wondered how the pump room was layed out. Thanks for the tour.

@Bacon8t0r

2y↑14

Randomly found in my feed, but always game to learn how stuff like this works behind the scenes. Super fascinating and way more complex that I originally thought

@Sniperboy5551

Same, pretty neat

@watsisbuttndo829

2y↑70

Here we have an example of the engineer who designed this system not actually coming down and having a look at how it has to be operated.

@71stingray67

its hard when the pumping systems I design go to Europe but im in America

@GGozzMontanelas

2y↑4

@71 Stingray this is really bad design but also bad operation...

@thepoolguy

2y↑1

@Gozz okay high speed

@IceColdGeico

2y↑22

Fascinating. Amazing how much it takes to keep a pool/waterpark clean.

Suggestion, though i know nothing: It seems to me that with a little judicious planning, pipework and valves, one could use the chemloop pumps (or other pumps) to stop the system taking on air when shut down.

@EnosShenk

2y↑2

You know, this is the content I love on youtube. A dude doing a skilled job that I've never really considered someone has to think about. Super interesting.

@stalkinghawk9244

2y↑6

your knowledge of this machinery is very impressive, also you explain very well, keep up the good work! And greetings from Germany^

@drewking96

2y↑2

I sell valves for a living. i know how they work, and what they are made of, but i never get to see them in action. Super cool to see them in service and not on my shelf in inventory haha! Awesome video man!

@nightwing36s

2y↑15

I'm surprised you don't use air relief caps (I don't know the trade name); I see them all the time in HVAC to vent air automatically without dumping more than a spritz of water

@patrickcarcamo622

2y↑4

Air release valve. At the very least, run tubing down to the ground.

@ShimrraJamaane

2y↑1

Automatic bleed valve. The kind that uses a float inside to open the valve when air is at the top (causing the float to drop and open the valve). Also surprised that they don't have this given it's a clean water system.

@thepoolguy

2y↑3

I've answered this a couple times, but you must remember the filter media will pass through this as well. In previous installs, it has caused the auto bleader to clog and 1. Keep leaking water, or 2. Not work to pass air.

@ShimrraJamaane

2y↑1

@ThePoolGuy Thanks for the clarification. What is ultimately capturing the filter media downstream of that bleed valve?

@thepoolguy

2y↑1

@Shimrra so keep in mind that the filter must, "pre coat" the media before the filter can begin sending water to the pool. During this precoat, that's when the media is in suspension and causes those issues with auto bleeders.

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@creativejamieplays7185

2y↑28

In the case of something to do with chemicals being turned off, would it not be better to ask around to see if anyone knows why it is off before turning it on?

@denisohbrien

2y↑36

lock out tag out. no need to ask, if your working on the system its on you to lock it out.

@Chris_In_Texas

2y↑11

31:31 I am surprised that you don't have more or any that I saw, sticky label arrows on the pipes for flow directions and/or pipe purpose. I know that once you are an old hat at things its easy and second nature, but for newbies or other less technical people it would be nice to have.

Back when I was doing industrial controls in car plants, factories and super tankers, just about all facilities we would go into would have the big sticker wraps around all the piping to tell what was in them and normal direction of flow that you can see and read from standing location. Most would have a laminated cheat sheet of all the valves and piping that were all labeled as well. Each valve would have number with size and function. All the PLC display screens would then have labels as well with valve numbers etc. The larger the facility, the easier it made things just to remember all the exact piping and valve arrangements. Just helps that one day when your a little tired, or just having a bit of old person syndrome. Also one of those things if the guy that knew it all, got hit by a bus tomorrow, things could still function ok. (Just a figure of speech people, no people were harmed in this example! 🤦‍♂) Keep up the good work sir, brings back a lot of memories from those days, thanks for the walk-a-rounds from North Texas! 👍🤠

@Novashadow115

2y↑6

Is it weird that this video got put in my feed after I just got back from a water park trip that ended due to the facility undergoing all of this exact maintenance! So cool!

@lifeintornadoalley

2y↑2

I wonder how often you have to worry about cavitations? Some pump designs are better at keeping cavitations down, others are awful.

@paeve362

2y↑187

I feel like I know enough now about your systems in Houston just from these videos to be hired and need almost no training 😂😂

@coreybabcock2023

2y↑3

Yep

@beb38138

2y↑11

I work at a petroleum plant and even I am confused about some of these loop systems 🤣🤣🤣

@Alejandro-vb2fx

2y↑4

@BB's Emporium Come to a refinery

@thepoolguy

@Alejandro I would agree, if this pool boy can figure it out, then anyone can.

@cooperwilkes7219

2y↑9

Can you do a video on what happens if someone fell in the surge pit and why is it not good to run pools over limit on water level.

@ryans413

2y↑1

I always wonder how much the water bill is at a pace like this. I know the water gets reused but I’d hate too still see the water bill each month

@thepoolguy

2y↑2

For us, initial fill is high, then maintains isn't that bad.

@Niphiz

2y↑3

you should be more curious for the electricity bill xD (in Europe it would be A lot especially with current prices)

@hanssenjones

2y↑4

@ThePoolGuy ....Why not run some pex or sch 80 pipe from those ball valves (that you use to purge the air) over and dump into pool so you dont get the area wet when you purge the air out? If you dont want to get chemicals in the pool when you purge the lines, a hub drain with some lines ran up there would help so the water can run into there instead on your head or on that GFI wall outlet that is close by.

@CajunJosh

2y↑19

Just out of curiosity. Couldn't you install some flexible braided line or any type of flexible line for that matter to the discharge ends of your air purge valves and just hang that down low with a second valve at the end. Then you could just walk around and open those hanging purge valves instead of walking around with the stick?

@khx73

2y↑8

But that's his daily shower... 😄

@coreybabcock2023

2y↑5

Agree plus that motor was getting soaked

@khx73

2y↑8

@Corey Babcock Pretty sure that rating of motor can operate in a downpour.

@GigsVT

2y↑3

Probably doesn't matter in texas but a deadend small tube is risky for freezing. Deadends are undesirable in other ways too, but I'm not sure if it would matter here.

@Jaker788

2y↑2

@khx73 Probably, but chlorinated water will rust all the metal surfaces. The motor is probably sealed well enough to not let in that oxidizing water and only ruin the outside casing, but it's still not ideal.

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@NUTTER8291

2y↑11

Hey fella
If this is how you do your training with new guys
Your instructions are clear and precise I'll be very happy to work with you !!
Where do I sign up !! 👋

@Evan-bc6nb

2y↑12

Throw some barbed fittings on those bleeders and run tubing to your floor drain. Keeps you dry. I'm used to working with contaminated water. The pool water is not so bad to get a shower with.

@thepoolguy

2y↑8

We'll get to that some day.

@wiedehopf9068

2y↑7

@ThePoolGuy You could put a short fitting on it to aim it away from the operator and fend off intruders! :)

@randalljames1

Oh fun on pumps... We ran a waterpark for years.. Seasonal shutdown and restarts are always a can of worms.. We had three 36,000 GPM pumps (run off big natural gas Cats) and a 28,000 GPM filter pump.. (1.5MG pool) .. Control systems seemed more a headache for us.. Nice setup there..

@lorenzo42p

2y↑3

that loop of pipe that comes up from the outlet of the pump, do you open that air vent valve on top when the system is turned off? if you let air in there, that should break the siphon, draining the filter back into the surge pit. may need to do the same on the outlet of the filter too, break the siphon.

@yes3074

2y↑3

Hey i really like your videos could you make a video of how you start the water slides and other things in the morning with a Camera looking at the water slide outside?

@sigmarkr

2y↑1

Yes

@sc5015

I cant help but wonder why all those air bleed valves dont have cheap PVC directing them to the floor so the corrosive water just dumps on the floor and not all over other parts and near electrical lines and what not. Seems a small price to help the overall longevity of the system as a whole.

@thepoolguy

This isn't a daily deal, just once in a while. So it never really is a long standing issue, and doesn't cause problems.

@a14266

2y↑3

4:10 you can buy thread tube adaptor fitting. and run a tubing then it wont splash everywhere

@thepoolguy

2y↑6

Then I won't get my weekly shower

@donnyg.1681

Gee I never thought about this. I don't think Arlington TX had this problem when they used taxpayer money to buy a water park that would have competed against another Waterpark I believe had recently purchased and filled the valves and pumps with cement making it useless as tits on a boar hog.

@thepoolguy

2y↑2

Cleary... you havnt met the right Boar Hog....😉😉. Jk jk, now what's the story here... I havnt heard this one.

@produKtNZ

2y↑1

Attaching a hose to the end of the air-release vale at tyhe top would not be a bad idea ;)

@thepoolguy

The filter media makes them fail

@produKtNZ

@ThePoolGuy Fine, then get company issued umbrella's :D

@thepoolguy

2y↑2

@produKtNZ but this is how I get some of my team to shower.... also, it's hot out here. ;)

@bluetheta

2y↑2

I now know why my waterpark doesn't do weekend only ops, too mush hassle to start up and shut down just to run/open for 2-3 days. Ours has three houses after they had to build a new one when the system overloaded and the river motivators failed after a new water coaster was installed, executive fault for not listening to chief engineer (your position title in that franchise).

@greezay

2y↑2

If I was the new hire and he was trying to train me and tell me how to do this, I'd quit the same day.

@thepoolguy

Bye

@josephsaucedo8691

2y↑3

If I was a betting man I would say that check valve is bad that's why that valve on the in coming was shut and it's harder to prime. All that air is also bad for the pump and the seal and it's impeller. no pump does good with air and there needs to be some were to drain all that air off it would help the life of the pump out a lot and it's life span. I only no this because IV been doing pump work for over 20 years and I specialize in booster pump and submersible pumps. P.s no pump is made to get rid of air really well it ends up distroying the pump end on the inside open it up and I bet it's has cut pockets in the casting and impeller. It will be only a matter of time before its no good it should not take that long to displace any air in the line even if sitting for a year. 👍👌✌️💯💧🥂

@DokiKimori

2y↑1

How long do your parks stay open in Texas? First week of September and we're done here in Illinois.

@wellsilver3972

2y↑1

with the weather now im sure they can run 365 days a year 🤣

@trolojolo6178

Thank lord for climate change:)

@SuffixezHD

should have automatic air separators instead of having to open a valve.

@thepoolguy

They don't work with filter media. The gates get clogged and leak terribly.

@shawnhuk

Was that clear as mud?

@mrfrenzy.

How to check for proper chlorine dosing? Put some water from the chemloop on your hand and sniff it 😀

@thepoolguy

Well yeah... how do you check for chlorine?

@DramaMustRemainOnTheStage

But why the extended shutdown?

@3ch0_17

I'm not going to watch the video, just gonna ask and wait for other commenters to answer my question.
How many lpm/gpm do the pumps push?. How many gallons/liters in the whole system? Is the system salt? bromine? Chlorine?. If chlorine, liquid or pucks?. Where does this facility like to keep temp and (if chlorinated) ppm at?
Thanks

@kirrusAgain

2y↑2

How come the water in the viewing windows looks brown ish. Is that just it needs more filtering, picked up rust from somewhere, or just the plastic yellowing?

@khx73

2y↑3

Color of the plastic

@kirrusAgain

2y↑1

@khx73 Thanks!

@robertpenczar8930

your the man😉😊

@someone2506

His the man

@aquatrax123

Do you use Amazon Monitron? It's a monitoring system that using Amazon web services and machine learning to monitor industrial equipment to determine if a motor is failing.

@nnglnd

You have a bump clean for your filter .
I still have to backwash the ones at my place .

@thepoolguy

You're talking about the reverse cycle defenders?

@Dreddip

2y↑1

so many open switch panels, the complacency is unreal. Luckily, other than that everything is wet or that bleed valves and hoses leak directly onto electrical equipment and motors, there doesn't appear to be a huge safety risk.

@thepoolguy

Mkay bro

@ihavediabetestoo

2y↑3

Why don’t you plumb those purge valves to a drain instead of letting them spray water everywhere?

@Nareimooncatt

2y↑1

What, you don't want to take a shower at work? Lol

@coherentpanda7115

2y↑1

Probably because it is Texas. Get a little wet? Just walk out into the sweltering Sun for a minute.

@ihavediabetestoo

2y↑1

@CoherentPanda yeah, the equipment won’t mind taking a shower in corrosive chlorinated water because it’s in Texas. I’m more concerned with the equipment enclosures and the components inside. PLCs, VFDs, Contactors, power supplies and human machine interface devices are not cheap.

@PepijnHazelhof

2y↑4

why ain't you put 2 elbows and a line to the floor on the vent so only your shoes get wet?

@billmoran3812

A couple ball vent valves would eliminate all this fooling around.

@thepoolguy

Mkay

@davestationx3767

2y↑3

Awesome

@jfwfreo

2y↑1

Are all of the attractions at this park from WhiteWater West?

@thepoolguy

2y↑1

Yes, I do have a new Pro Slide package being installed soon.

@navorski7660

This is complicated 😂

@chadhiggins8397

Have you guys ever heard of a plc? You need to automate this a little better. Lol

@iDorandomSht

2y↑1

Okay when do I start ?

@coreybabcock2023

2y↑1

The legs of the unistruts supporting the vfds are rusting out

@johnrauner2515

"good morning team".

Yeah, ok, no need to watch any further. hahahaha

@VinceLA91

2y↑1

A technical question: what if someone shits in the pool?

@thepoolguy

2y↑2

We call that an AFR OR accidentally fecal release. We follow CDC guidelines to prevent the spread of RWIs or recreational water illnesses. There is a specific procedure in the event of formed and one for loose stoole.

@DoNotEatPoo

Came here for this question, but I have another. Can you see the poop stuck in the filter?

@trolojolo6178

@Level Three no, larger parts are prefiltered with a netting. Imagine branches and leaves would get in the filter.

@16vSciroccoboi

@ThePoolGuy so ... Does that make it a big deal or is it like, just get everyone out of the pool and let it run for 24hours doing it's normal thing.

@greezay

This should be a click bait video.

@DynamicSeq

Go spend the few dollars and put some 90 on the air valves so everything don't get's soaked......just lazy....

@thepoolguy

Super lazy

@shannonmcgunn3936

I’m afraid .

@withamarshview1436

At 45 minutes, this video is too long. Edit out the parts where nothing is happening visually. We can't see the water flowing, so I got bored looking at your hand occasionally turn a knob. You've got an audience eager to see this behind-the-scenes content, just tighten it up.

@thepoolguy

I appreciate your thoughts. Many of the comments I have received before were contrary to your thoughts. Many said they just wanted me to keep rolling. It's hard to please everyone. But I will keep your thoughts in mind. Thank you for watching.

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