The band's first single, Babyshambles, was released in April 2004 on High Society Records. Fewer than 1,000 copies of the CD and 7" were released and both can now be found changing hands for more than £50 on internet auction sites such as eBay.
During September and October 2004 Babyshambles embarked on a UK tour culminating in two sold-out shows at the London Scala. Despite claims that the band were only touring to raise money to support Doherty's drug habit the tour sold-out and received critical acclaim. The band's second single Killamangiro was released November 29 2004 on Rough Trade Records and reached number 8 in the UK charts. The band embarked on another tour in December amid increasing concern about Doherty's drug use. During a gig in Blackpool the band walked off stage as it became clear Doherty was too intoxicated to perform and a riot broke out at the London Astoria when Doherty failed to turn up for a gig.
In January 2005, Gemma Clarke quit the band, citing disagreements with the management who she considered irresponsible for failing to address Doherty's obvious drug problem. She was replaced with Adam Ficek, Patrick Walden's former bandmate in The White Sport. In February 2005 Doherty, along with fellow musician Alan Wass, was arrested on suspicion of assault and blackmail. It was alleged that Doherty assaulted Max Carlish, a documentary maker, in a London hotel, a charge he strenuously denied. Carlish had made a documentary about Doherty, from which clips were used for the channel 4 documentary 'Stalking Pete Doherty'. After allegedly assaulting Carlish, Doherty spent several nights in prison until £150,000 bail could be raised. After being released on bail Doherty spent several weeks in a recording studio in Wales working on Babyshambles' debut album. All charges against him were dropped in April 2005.
On October 1, 2005, the Babyshambles tour bus was raided by police. Doherty was charged on suspicion of possession of class A drugs and bailed until December, although Doherty claims that the substances were related to his Naltrexone implant.
Work on Babyshambles' debut album continued throughout April and May 2005 with Mick Jones, who worked with Doherty on the producing of The Libertines' albums. The album, Down in Albion was released on 14th November, having been leaked onto the internet on 19th October. It came 10th in the Radio 1 Album Charts. The single Albion was released on the 28th November and came 8th in the Radio 1 Single Charts. Another single Fuck Forever was released on August 15th, reaching #4 on the UK Singles Chart.
Peter Doherty appeared on Newsnight at the end of 2005, and played a few secret and personal gigs to fans at the end of the year. At the start of 2006 the band announced that they would play 3 small club shows in London, Sheffield and Stoke. To fans' surprise, Babyshambles performed at the first of the London dates without guitarist Patrick Walden. Instead of Walden, Doherty played guitar at the London date. The band have since made an announcement that Walden quit the band to pursue other projects. Walden was replaced by Mick Whitnall.
December 2006 saw the release of a new EP, featuring The Blinding EP, the July single 'Beg, Steal & Borrow' and new single 'I Love You (But You're Green)'.
On January 18th, 2007 it was announced that the band signed a "long term" album deal with Parlophone.
Babyshambles released their 2nd album, Shotter's Nation, on October 1, 2007. It was produced by Stephen Street (Morrissey, Blur) and features Bert Jansch on guitar on the last track Lost Art Of Murder.
Fuck Forever
Babyshambles Lyrics
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So what's the use between death and glory?
I can't tell between death and glory
Happy endings, no, they never bored me
Happy endings, they still don't bore me
But they, they have a way
A way to make you pay
And to make you toe the line
No, I sever my ties
Because I'm so clever
But clever ain't wise
Fuck forever
If you don't mind
Oh fuck forever?
If you don't mind, don't mind, I don't mind, I don't mind
Oh what's the use between death and glory?
I can't tell between death and glory
New labour and Tory
Purgatory and no happy families
One and the same, one and the same
No, it's not the same
It's not supposed to be the same
You know about that way
The way they make you pay
And the way they make you toe the line
I've severed my ties
Oh, you're so clever, you're so clever
But you're not very nice
So fuck forever
If you don't mind
Oh I'm stuck forever
In your mind, your mind, your mind
Go ahead and know about that way
To make you feel like shit and make you pay
And to make you toe the line, line
I sever my tie
Oh and I'll never
Sever the ties
And fuck forever
If you don't mind
See I'm stuck forever
Oh I'm stuck in your mind, your mind, your mind, your mind
They'll never played this on the radio
Oh they'll never play this on the radio
The lyrics of Babyshambles's song "Fuck Forever" have a sense of rebellion against societal expectations of what a happy ending should be. The lyrics express the idea that the distinction between death and glory is blurred and the pursuit of happy endings doesn't always lead to satisfaction. The repetition of "one and the same" emphasizes the idea that life is a continuous cycle that can be repetitive and mundane. The line "I've severed my ties because I'm so clever, but clever ain't wise" could suggest that the singer has cut himself off from society due to his individualistic beliefs, but it doesn't necessarily lead to happiness. The line "fuck forever if you don't mind" can mean either "let's do it forever" or "let's forget about it completely."
The second half of the song contrasts the concept of happy endings with political oppositions like new labour and tory, purgatory, and no happy families. The line "they'll never play this on the radio" is self-explanatory and demonstrates the band's opposition to conforming to mainstream standards.
Line by Line Meaning
It's one and the same, one and the same oh
There is no difference between death and glory.
So what's the use between death and glory?
What's the point of distinguishing between death and glory?
I can't tell between death and glory
I can't differentiate between death and glory.
Happy endings, no, they never bored me
I don't find happy endings boring.
Happy endings, they still don't bore me
Happy endings still don't bore me.
But they, they have a way
However, they have a method.
A way to make you pay
This method makes you pay.
And to make you toe the line
It also makes you conform to the rules.
No, I sever my ties
But I decided to cut off connections.
Because I'm so clever
I did this because I am intelligent.
But clever ain't wise
But intelligence doesn't equate to wisdom.
Fuck forever
I don't want to do this forever.
If you don't mind
If you don't object to that.
Oh fuck forever?
Do you really want to keep doing this forever?
Don't mind, don't mind
It's fine, it's fine.
Oh what's the use between death and glory?
Again, what does it matter whether it's death or glory?
New labour and Tory
This is about political parties.
Purgatory and no happy families
These are negative situations and circumstances.
No, it's not the same
None of these situations are the same.
It's not supposed to be the same
They are not meant to be the same.
You know about that way
You know what I'm talking about.
The way they make you pay
The method they use to make you pay.
And the way they make you toe the line
The way they enforce conformity to their rules.
I've severed my ties
I already cut off my connections.
Oh, you're so clever, you're so clever
You are intelligent, yes you are.
But you're not very nice
But being intelligent doesn't mean you're kind.
Go ahead and know about that way
You can learn how they do it.
To make you feel like shit and make you pay
They make you feel miserable and make you pay for it.
And to make you toe the line, line
They will enforce their rules on you.
Oh and I'll never
I will never,
Sever the ties
Cut off my connections.
And fuck forever
And I don't want to do this forever.
See I'm stuck forever
I am trapped in this situation forever.
Oh I'm stuck in your mind, your mind, your mind, your mind
I am constantly on your mind.
They'll never played this on the radio
This song will never be played on the radio.
Oh they'll never play this on the radio
It just cannot be played on the radio.
Lyrics © Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC
Written by: Patrick George Walden, Peter Doherty
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@whoknocks4676
14 years. Fuck, I am not young anymore. Heroes of my youth became legends.
@agg8223
that's true, bro. sadness
@ahabduennschitz7670
omg youre such a special snowflake
@supriyandisitanggang2498
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@sveannnnnnn7578
these guys did NOT become legends
@pinocchiosnose8460
yes yes yes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ....legends...lalalala!!!!!!!<3<3<3
@poppyyates1250
This song will never get old ❤️
@TheEconomicElder
I still have a chipped tooth from Doherty ramming his microphone in my face to sing along. Iv been planing my revenge for years now.
@Alex-km8tf
+Youtube Lotto im awfully jealous
@TAx2XD
+Chops Sympathy be jealous, he signed my chest and i kissed him on the cheek. :P