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"We're a three piece, based in south west London. Prodigy Drummer Ashley Johnson, super guitarist Dave Leaks, and bassist Mush. We want to run away with the circus. There are no drugs."

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Most interesting comment from YouTube:

Tek

2y↑3

@Nikhil Kumar yeaaa but in merica our criminals dont follow gun laws. Places like Jacksonville , brownsville, memphis, high bridge, etc are riddled with criminals packing dracos and switches. But they are also populated with innocent people who have a right to defend themselves and their property.

Watch any crime these days in america and u can see just how fast the police responded. In some areas of america police response takes 15+ minutes. It is your responsibility for your own saftey, not the police.

Take a look at any mass shooting incident. A ccw holder with the proper knowledge and training (physical, mental, emotional) could have easly stopped/lessened the attack.

If the gov wants to limit my 2nd amendment rights than they should do so by enforcing more tactical and more "emotional strength training" (sharpen the mind not the ego, more think before act)

Ps: im pretty sure ukraine wouldnt want gun control

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VICE News

1y↑10

WATCH NEXT: Outnumbered By Guns In The Philippines - https://youtu.be/BsGKQRMByCk

Mike Tyson

43w↑1

A Binary trigger is legal and it fires when you pull the trigger and when you let go of the trigger it goes off.

The Bald Pizza Man

2y↑1.5K

I can’t believe a criminal would break the law, I’m actually shaking and crying rn

214 Luis

1y↑15

what💀people break the law ever day

BILLY_HET_BAFKONIJN

1y↑87

@214 Luis sarcasm my friend

Rob b

1y↑22

@214 Luis found the minority

briskets'N'bourbons

1y↑21

Agreed. What's the point in making any laws. Criminals will just break them anyway. Makes it harder for normal people to live. #anarchy

Justin Velasquez 541

Hahahahaha riiiight

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Jason Drummond

2y↑3.4K

As a recruit in the Canadian Forces in the 70's - our instructors taught us how to use a folded matchbook to convert the FN C1 to full auto.

sleepy boi

2y↑351

For all who don't know, the C1 is basically a semi auto only canadian version of the FN FAL

George Kougianos

2y↑32

Is this the same thing as a bump stock?

Josh Earhart

2y↑223

@George Kougianos no its actually a way to have full auto from the trigger, bump stock is just like a novelty....

George Kougianos

2y↑19

@Josh Earhart thank you for clarification

James fry

2y↑6

@George Kougianos no.

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NinjaUdude

2y↑2K

Auto Sears have been around since the maxim machine gun in the mid 1800s. That are not a new invention and it’s one of the simplest parts in a firearm. No complex geometry, just a piece that keeps the firing mechanism at the correct angle

The Sunday Shooter

2y↑58

Sear complexity varies, e.g. automatically reset burst ratchets vs. an open bolt with a static firing pin

Cente guåhan

2y↑25

YyeeAUP!!

I found him right here! 👆🏽 just as expected, making sure he knew everything from birth & everyone else are lacking in "the need to know" stuff.

NinjaUdude

2y↑47

@Cente guåhan I don’t know much about auto Sears but I am concerned that a major news agency gives less information than I got from one google search

Mark Lynch

2y↑4

@The Sunday Shooter they aren’t using open bolt guns.

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Z33 Garage

2y↑288

I'm so happy to see that all these laws/bans that politicians push to keep us all "safe" are so hyper effective at keeping already illegal items off the hands of individuals whom don't wish to do the proper paperwork and background checks to get them legally. Sadly its only the law abiding owners that end up following NFA item laws vs criminals. SHUCKS I guess we need more bans and laws.

Charlie Diep

2y↑7

A law is only as good as the enforcement you apply...

Z33 Garage

2y↑21

@Charlie Diep that's not how the politicians claim it works

stephen jerome

2y↑7

Unfortunately only the people that are willing to break the law are able to get these. There is no way to get these switches legally because of the 1986 gun control act which prohibits civilian ownership of any machine gun manufactured after 1986

lostinthesauce

2y↑3

i’d imagine it’s a lot easier to smuggle inconspicuously shaped dice sized pieces of plastic than handguns much less rifles

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Whowantstoknow

2y↑2.2K

After emptying the magazine he had to hold back. He wanted to say how cool it was.

Quique

2y↑68

That's cus it is in the proper context but the fact is they are now becoming almost as prevalent on the streets as hi-points. Even as a gun owner I truly believe we need more regulations including insurance to curb illegal firearms on the streets nvm these devices.

Quique

2y↑29

@Mark Lynch I'm sure legal gun owners will be just fine. The fact is there are too many irresponsible gun owners in the US which is how a lot of criminals get their hands on firearms, that & criminals can easily cross state lines buy firearms sans background checks & commit violent act w/ those firearms the very same day. And when you compare how other countries have managed to eliminate mass shooting & or shooting in general prove regulations when enacted on a national level do work. So I could rly care less about how much you fetishize firearms or daydream about single handedly taking back the country from a tyrannical gov. My concern is w/ the ppl & the kids who want to study w/o having to worry if a student who stole their parents firearm will walk into their school & kill them nvm all other ppl around this country who routinely get shot & killed all cus easier to access firearms than a well paying job.

Samantha Rivera

2y↑10

@Quique a legal gun owner can easily become a irresponsible criminal

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Nandita Arora

2y↑46

The last part is so true. No matter how many legislation and policies they shove down people's throat, it doesn't affect the criminals!

Mark Walton

1y↑1

Bingo.. (Do it the right way) only applies to law abiding citizens..

Wilfred244

52w↑1

It does if you make it harder for criminals to access them.... will it stop all of them no but neither does doing absolutely nothing

Five Bros Stop Mos

48w↑2

@Wilfred244 There's 500 million guns, the black market would be booming.

MattPSU02

2y↑1.9K

A friend of mine served in Afghanistan and he confiscated a Glock auto sear from a guy during a house search. Those things are everywhere and it's hard to police them. The thing is that firing a pistol on full auto is ridiculously inaccurate and stupid.

Joshua Agosto

2y↑379

and every person should have one if they want one...

MattPSU02

2y↑358

@Joshua Agosto I am a 2A supporter, but an auto sear on a Glock style pistol is stupid and unsafe, and serves no logical purpose.

NJ

2y↑87

Correct but at close to medium range combat is Sprays with bullets hense giving the bullets a wider horizontal and vertical range less of a way for the target to evade

prfwrx249

2y↑132

It's a fun toy. But as a weapon, about as useful as a firecracker that happens to spit lead and shits out the whole 17 round mag in 1 second

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ed go

2y↑124

If criminals have them, law abiding citizens need to be able to have them.

dominick badial

44w↑12

Your government has them so you should have them

Ian Rodabaugh

43w↑3

@dominick badial Gimme my civilian reaper drone asap

DICE'N DICE'N

43w

@Ian Rodabaughand a tank

Mech D

43w↑1

Agreed. Guns for everyone or guns for no one. The most vulnerable especially, children included

TheLOLOCAUST2.0

43w↑2

@Ian Rodabaugh 32 million, go for it.

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Colin Johnston

2y↑684

This thing has been around for like 75 years. Honestly the inaccuracy probably saves lives. A fully auto pistol is like the farthest thing from a machine gun you can get.

Blynky Land

2y↑165

Yeah, bullets that missed their intended target are usually super safe for everyone else. 🤪

richo manzano

2y↑8

Lol what?

Pașca Alexandru

2y↑14

But you don't realise the impact these devices have on ammunition producing companies....

Rampart

2y↑8

Exactly. Most dangerous weapon is a bolt action.

Kash Y

2y↑39

yup, everyone that becomes collateral damage doesn't count

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WildandLiving

1y↑142

Felon has a gun get a sentence... felon has a machine gun same sentence. Kind-of hard for a felon to really care at that point

DEPORT EUROPEANS BACK TO EUROPE

1y↑9

Cry about it,felons have a right to 2nd amendment

Gareon Conley

1y↑9

@DEPORT EUROPEANS BACK TO EUROPE the 2nd amendment doesn't include shooting each other up with homemade full auto machine guns wtf

MeineNapkinen

1y↑1

@Gareon Conley No it does not. What's your point?

Gareon Conley

1y↑1

@MeineNapkinen so you'd say the founding fathers, when writing the constitution were like: "yea let's create one right that makes full auto assault rifles out of a semi auto pistol" or what? These amendments were written when the only weapon when you needed to defend your home in rural wyoming or similar and it took like 12 seconds to reload. Is that connecting to your brain in any way shape or form?

Xenophon

1y↑10

@Gareon Conley I'm not taking a side, but the historical inaccuracies in your comment are painful.

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Juice Wrld Unreleased 999

2y↑173

I love how vice even explains how to make it

SomeRandomGuy

1y↑1

Damn w pfp tho

Sleaque

1y↑17

"these are so dangerous"
"if you know how to the mechanism works, you can easily make one"
Immediately shows how the mechanism works

Matt Walters

43w↑3

@Sleaque more then that they show a gif schematic of just what it should do at every stage of a round being fired

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Lauby

2y↑962

I don’t care who you align with politically, you smile when you shoot a machine gun.

cum

2y↑76

Commies , nazi , anarchist , freedom fighter , capitalist can all be united with gun ! We all love gun

D Cuthbertson

2y↑47

I’m a die hard Democrat who was in the Army… I grin like the Joker when I hear automatic gunfire. Lol. (I was a 60 gunner in our squad) 101st baby!

Lucas Lothbrook

2y↑4

Hell yeah!!!! 🇺🇸 🇺🇲

Chris Primavera

2y↑6

Until it is time to reload the magazines. I was once given an M4, a case of ammo, and told to not shoot anyone and don't bring any ammo back. It got old after about the 10th mag.

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Novall ™

2y↑239

i like how they low-key want to show us how cool it is so we are going to buy it

stanhry

2y↑9

I would like one. My state bans all NFA items. I don’t to go gangster.

Victor Fox

1y↑7

FEDs: Hey look at this easy to find and modify tool. See how cool it is to shot it!

Josh Santos

2y↑460

I remember when I was working at Chick-fil-A and I saw a Glock on the dash and I struck up a conversation with the driver about theses switch and his buddy next to him was like “ya I have one” pulled a Glock out from under the seat with a 50 round drum with a Switch! In my mind I told myself “imagine if someone try to road rage with these guys!” Stay safe out their guys and watch your temper you never know what people be packing

ŠizofrenijA

2y↑13

Bro what

Mans (not you) litteraly just showed some guy his machine gun, hes lucky he didnt go to jail

Jordan Reed

2y↑48

@ŠizofrenijA
Jail for what 😂 he guy asked about Glock switches & he had one.

Jordan Reed

2y↑37

@sprite010
Owning one is ONLY ILLEGAL if you don’t have the correct SOT.

sprite010

2y↑2

@Jordan Reed most don't have that since most of us don't deal in arms

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Steve Morris

1y↑4

9:12 consistently goes right over anti-gunners heads. You could legislate the guns out of every legal gun owner's hands and you would not stop this. I'm actually floored VICE even included this clip to be honest.

Black_lettuce

2y↑47

It’s a really simple device and can be replicated once you understand how it works
Vice: shows how it works

Slav Abtomat

1y↑2

Yeah. Vice... total tool boxes the lot of them.

Wyman More'

43w↑5

Law abiding citizens should be allowed to own and operate any firearm they so choose. By denying them their constitutional right to do so it hinders their ability to match criminal elements operating outside of rules and regulations as they do not adhere to them anyway. Additionally, the 2nd amendment was created to defend against tyrannical government institutions not to merely support simple home protection.

Alex Poore

43w

I don't see law adding written in the 2nd amendment that's why we have infringements because people cherry pick the 2nd amendment.

Jay Dubs

2y↑1.1K

In other words… criminals are breaking the law to obtain prohibited items

Truly shocking. Just wow this is omg who would’ve thought

YETICOPTER

2y↑22

did you even watch the video? autosear use in crime has gone up dramatically in recent years. thats the point. not just that they're being used

HammyChez

2y↑19

@YETICOPTER probably because it is extremely easy to make

ErikTheRed33

2y↑17

@HammyChez They've always been easy to make, so there has to be some other reason why their use has proliferated

Jay Dubs

2y↑15

@YETICOPTER lol like they said officers didn’t know what they were finding before. Has production gone up yes but have these been a thing for the past 30-40 years? Yep lol I could make these in my garage rn. I just don’t because obvious reasons I don’t want to be a felon haha

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Christopher Finn

2y↑34

That thing is SICK🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥!!!! I love anything that is engineered and really works. I’m not even a gun owner but 😮 WOW!

Markius Fox

2y↑71

The law concerning machine gun ownership is a bit more nuanced than "you need a special license".

The civilian registry for machine guns was open from 26 July 1934 (the date the National Firearms Act of 1934 went into effect) to 19 May 1986 (the date the Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986 went into effect). In between that time, it was legal for a civilian to buy or make a machine gun as long as they paid a tax and registered it with the federal government. Ever since the 1986 date, only machine guns registered before the date have been "civilian transferable"; the price for those has risen sharply but steadily as demand has grown but supply has shrunk. The specific law that closed the civilian registry is found under Title 18 of the Code of Law of the United States, it is Section 922(o).

In order to own or make machine guns after the 1986 date, a person must get a Federal Firearms License, and an attached status call Special Occupational Taxpayer. There are several types of FFL and a few Classes of SOT. It costs about 1000USD to get an FFL alone, not counting the fees and licensing in the city/county/state you plan to do business in, and another 3000USD or so to get one of the classes of SOT. You will not get an FFL or an SOT if you only want to own a machine gun, you must have a business dealing in firearms and specifically want to do business in things like machine guns to have an SOT attached to the FFL. Once you stop being in that line of business, you must transfer, sell, destroy, or surrender any items in your inventory that would be prohibited for you to own as a civilian.

It's also interesting to point out, in the nearly 88 years since the National Firearms Act has been law, only two crimes have been committed with registered machine guns; at least one of them was registered and used by Law Enforcement, not a civilian. All other crimes with machine guns were converted illegally. So, law abiding civilians are not going around committing crimes of any kind with registered machine guns.

Finch Rollah

2y↑13

Null and void. 2A shall not be infringed.

J Collins

2y↑1

So, your 'interesting point' only really applies to business owners who would sacrifice $5k sot fees plus the $30k+ for the actual transferable platform and all the time and legal fees associated.... simply to commit a crime?

Maybe I missed your point but in full circle, it is easy for me to see why these are so popular. Seems people refuse to bow to the king.

Those who forget history are bound to repeat it.

Levi Jacobson

Can you please help me become a civilian, would like to be considered under presedientialism federalism soldierism etc.

Red

Not all of them are "illegal conversions", plenty of cases of illegal factory full auto weapons being used

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Aaron Langevin

2y↑161

I love how they keep saying "they're everywhere. Everyone had them." Sounds like an argument for legalization to me.

J Collins

2y↑15

Right, majority rules and all!

john doe

1y↑10

in common use.

It’s the same problem with claiming pistol braces are sbr’s.

It’s all a game at this point. Every PD, military, etc is familiar with these platforms.

There’s nothing arcane or unknown about them. They’re not some top secret weapon.

crimper s

1y↑2

i'd rather legalize sbrs and silencers. Dont want anyone with an glock switch at my range. Can't trust anyone to shoot accurately even without 1per pull.

champy1210

1y↑4

Common use (prior case, Caetano, established 200,000 stun guns met this threshold): protected by 2A.

Slav Abtomat

1y↑2

"Become ungovernable!"

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__

2y↑3

Excellent reporting vice! its nice to see some journalistic integrity for once

Slav Abtomat

1y↑4

Vice
Journalistic integrity

Pick one.

Nicholas Lynch

44w↑3

I like how it gives us a detailed look at the internals incase you want to make your own

SumoNinja92

2y↑1.2K

You can't stop something that can be made with tools from Walmart or Harbor Freight. Human hubris of control.

The Sunday Shooter

2y↑75

Disregard unjust laws

1b1rother

2y↑59

@Homie Ant I don't care about abortion either way, not my business not gonna try and impose my own way of life on other people

David Houston

2y↑13

@1b1rother this is the mindset God wants. The Anti-Karen attitude!

Luke Suchy

2y↑5

@Homie Ant yeah it right but the law doesn't determine its morality.

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John D

2y↑2

It IS a game changer, and it should be. It should be used to show how ridiculous the current NFA laws are. They should be abolished or reformed.

oscar barcelo

1y↑15

The last piece is probably the most important detail out of the video. Criminals don’t get punished by new laws, only law abiding citizens.

mghegotagun

43w↑1

Pretty much. Every new gun control law has the following effect on each group.
Law abiding civilian: The net in which they can be charged with a crime grows wider. Step lightly.
Criminal: Another charge on top of the 3-5 other crimes they're committing at the same time? Oh well.

I don't think people truly appreciate how relevant the statement "the laws don't effect criminals" is without being fed this example. New gun laws criminalizing possession of things as innocuous and common as standard capacity magazines should have stopped being written years ago in favor of laws to deal with the core issue of actual criminals and their actions.

Hunter Kane

43w

It is worth mentioning that a licensed dealer of machine guns will lose their license if they are not operating a business around it.

I think among many things, one of the critical issues resulting in mass production of unregulated firearm components like Glock and AR sears is both the ease with which crude components can be manufactured with household tools by anyone (with or without criminal intent) and the lack of ability to own them legally without running a business and jumping through legal hoops for every action taken therefore.

GeoFry3

2y↑4

Hadn't really had much interest in it till now. Glad this video shows me exactly how one works, and it that takes nothing to make one. Cool. Good job. 👍

GiancarloFXBBTx.

2y↑395

I remember seeing these on the internet like 10 years ago for around $20 off of Chinese websites and thinking the were for BB guns.

Concentrate Corner

2y↑62

they are still on those chinese websites. Just a lot of them are honey pots

BigBootyGettah

Me to I faintly remember

Lame guy

2y↑3

@Concentrate Corner yea but some still got through surprisingly

BeeJayy

2y↑9

@Concentrate Corner what websites are they called, asking for a friend

Reap Her 🔱

2y↑1

No way, I’m so naive i never even knew smh lol I see everything is just sooo controversial now a days

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john deaux

44w↑2

I've seen Garands, M-14, M1 carbine, Mini 14/30 type rifles made to fire full auto with a shoe lace. Tie one end to the charging handle, loop it around the stock and then tie it to the trigger. There's a way to super glue a piece of wire to the bolt of a 10/22 to make it full auto.

Ask How I Know

2y↑904

I've yet to see a handheld automatic weapon that was as effective as a semi auto...

Andrew Le

2y↑119

Define effective in terms of guns.

Zhe Gaming

2y↑7

@Andrew Le 😂😂😂💯

Deadlyaztec27

2y↑137

Well, you're right in a sense. Training and reaction speed are the most important factor when it comes to neutralizing a target mid to long range. The advantage of full auto is that you can use it as a force multiplier in close range and to suppress a much larger group at medium range. Getting into a shootout with a criminal that's 20 meters away is very dangerous. Knowing he can come over and mag dump you in one trigger pull makes them even more dangerous. Full auto is undeniably the king of throwing bullets in the direction of your target. Often that's enough.

Ivares Kesner

2y↑7

AK 47 and every other assault rifle with a full auto mode.

E Mail

2y↑20

@Andrew Le Accurately hitting with every round discharged. A barrel with a length of 5 inches should allow the user to accurately place their projectile in an orange at 40 yards

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Alexander

2y↑2

Lol, Sears are gun parts, auto sears are the mechanism by which all firearms that can operate autopmatically do. Usually different than this mechanism in that they are typically integral to the firearm as opposed to a quick addition. What makes this interesting is that, like many other 3d printed parts, exist to make regulation meaningless. 10/10

Squeaky Dolphin

1y↑6

4:40 An assault rifle, by definition, is a machine gun, so how one converts an assault rifle into a machine gun is beyond me.

J. Bridges

50w↑2

Just remember folks, it's only dangerous if the government doesn't know you have it. If you pay your $200 tax for a transferable MG and put your name on their list, it's perfectly okay.

It's all about control, and not about safety.

Nose Picker

1y↑63

"You can make these at home"
As the founding fathers intended, they'd be proud of these machine guns

ben5073

1y↑5

I doubt that.

nonya bidness

1y↑10

@ben5073 cry more

Atomic

1y↑1

They would be horrified

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Reuben Stern

43w

I think the fun with something like a switch would be getting training, doing assault courses, trying to get a tight spread maybe even competitions. Not panic firing an entire street. Kinda crazy anyone would fire something like that without training. Especially for self defence. You could kill one of your friends or take your own face off. Also having the highest fire rate is not a tactical advantage. It's just a waste of ammo and a really bad mess. Aiming quickly and accurately, not that's an advantage.

oriolopocholo

2y↑663

I love how the dealer's reaction after getting his buddy shot isn't "at that moment I realized that what I was selling was killing scores of people" but "at that moment I realized that could happen to me"

tonydotkaze

2y↑50

safe to say he is not an altruist

GDK42ox

2y↑150

Yeah, well illegal arms dealers aren't known for their empathy...

cool and good

2y↑40

They're just motivated by money. Their greed clouds their judgements.

Mark Smith

2y↑28

@tonydotkaze Most people don't understand that the nature of gun ownership is highly philosophical for Americans. Selling guns that may end up killing someone is completely compatible with their philosophy.

Vinnie G

2y↑8

obviously someone as self-centred and down right evil is not going to have a moral epiphany on his own.

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SCUBA Diver

2y↑88

this set the record for most rounds fired without hitting the target

Smoke a Sack

43w

Exactly why the Glock switches are so dumb and dangerous civilians catch those strays

Blake Craig

2y↑1

Its crazy that so many people are using these with no experience cause the g18 the actual factory machine gun glock has a reputation for "rainbowing" if you dont grip it right wich means it arcs backwards and you shoot yourself

BringYourOwnGuns

2y↑1

I like how vice lets the last few seconds of the video be Jay explaining how more gun laws will only effect law bidding citizens, and the criminals will still have them.

a.

2y↑30

Anyone that has handled a gun knows how useless a machine pistol is, as it once was said about an autopistol that is 3 times the weight of a glock with the same rate of fire, only useful in a firefight inside a phone booth

Chiefusb

2y↑15

I dont think its the point of it being useless to a trained individual, its the untrained people spraying bullets indiscriminately

Miles

2y↑3

Good against crowds

ChesterGT

2y↑2

@Miles shotguns are better

ʕっ•ᴥ•ʔっ Ber

2y↑4

@ChesterGT life isnt a game
shotguns have a tight spread usually

SierraEcho88

So somebody with one of these will hit a bunch of people originally not intended to hit right ?
This does not sound any better to me.

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never go full Pony

43w

What I don't get is why people who use them don't put them in a chassis.

There are lots of good once out there, 3D printable at well and it makes it much more controllable

ZOmgRiskyo

2y↑978

"Its extremely easy, you can 3d print one at home" sounds like a pro-gun commercial

Lisa Seabrook

2y↑15

Love ads

Fuck YouTube

2y↑2

You got the program for that. Maybe drop it in Wikipedia

hamdoggius

2y↑26

@SpaceRanger And if they didn't cover the topic you would call them out for that. Your brain is rotting, best see a doctor about that.

UnacceptableAttitude

2y↑22

The FFL owner was avoiding explaining how they work to protect the information and then they showed a diagram of how it works, I'd say they love to promote the knowledge.

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Over Educated sp

2y↑1

What’s crazy, is these are illegal as hell, yet it doesn’t seem to stop criminals from jumping all over them. Law abiding citizens want nothing to do with them, yet criminals will ALWAYS find a way to get a hold of them.

TacShooter

43w

Law-abiding citizens would love to have them if they weren't AGAINST THE LAW!

Julian Barajas

2y↑4

🙌🙌 sick ass vid from vice. Im a gun enthusiast and ive been hearing about these alot the past couple years. Super illegal. I actually remember seeing that exact video on a youtube reel. And yeah, after that i started seeing a ton. My jaw dropped how easily accessible these things must be and how stoooooooopeh these dudes are for making videos. Iono. some guys maybe had the paperwork to own it, maybe some not

Shieeesh

43w↑7

I’m not a cop! But I know if I we’re serving a warrant I probably won’t be directly in front of the doorway 😂

ap1986

2y↑70

Guys auto sears have been around for almost 150 years. And we're available to the common citizen all the way up the the 80`s... (Thanks Reagan 🙄)

ŠizofrenijA

Is this sarcasm?

d walker

2y↑4

@ŠizofrenijA No

Jgparadox

Why is it a controversy now then?

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B Khristorozhdestvensky

Gun keys or switches have been around several decades. Even for SKS, etc. Long before the Glock issue.

ernstbergerbrent

2y↑132

What this video doesn't point out is how impractical a machine pistol is. It's next to impossible to hit anything past a few yards unless you are highly trained. Most militaries and police forces don't use them.

Conlin Bryant

2y↑35

I'm not sure if you know what a drive by is. or just how gang warfare works, but machine pistols are a favorite of drive bys. Handguns are already the most commonly used firearms for violent crime, the capability to quickly turn most of them into a machine pistol is pretty wild.

TheSLOShadow

2y↑17

That is why they are dangerous. A shooter has no control over where those bullets go.

00buck is what I use when I need a close range machine gun.

Ali Jaffery

2y↑11

For hitting the intended target. But gang members don't give a fk if they miss and hit a random person.

Brenden Shea

2y↑1

⛔Stop Censorship⛔ yea all those people using Tommy guns working for Capone looked like the stuff I spread on my turkey sandwich I get before viewing the bird sanctuary

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Brett Ash

2y↑27

I love how he just says it costs over a thousand dollars....yeah a good bit more. Why not use a number that doesn't make it so easily attainable and realistic at the same time?

Ma final message, Change da world goodbye

2y↑1

How long and expensive is the process?

AFT

2y↑11

@Ma final message, Change da world goodbye years of waiting, thousands of dollars, and the loss of respect of freemen

Robert Harper

2y↑6

@Ma final message, Change da world goodbye, well, the price on a M16 registered lower receiver, stripped of all it's parts, can go for over 20K these days. They weren't so expensive pre 1986 Hughes Amendment, (Which was pushed through with a voice count that didn't add up), that amendment to a gun control bill banned the ability to register any new machine guns for regular people to own, so in 1982 a legal M16 would have cost you a few hundred dollars more than an AR15. Oh, and lets say you find a really historical machine gun in your grandfather's stuff when he passes, something he brought back from WW2, well, now you have to destroy it. I've seen machine guns that are not only historical, but are worth a hell of a lot of money, have to be destroyed over stupid laws that do NOTHING to reduce crime.

Orange Killa

1y↑2

@Robert Harper they arn’t destroyed they are lost in a boating accident or a barn fire

Slav Abtomat

1y↑1

The "$1000 dollars" he's talking about is obtaining your FFL and SOT license. Going that route costs significantly less than buying a $20k "third hole" lower receiver. The SOT allows you to manufacture, posses and sell select fire weapons (to entities legally allowed to posses them - government agencies for instance). The downside is that if you decide to close shop and surrender your licenses, the select fire weapons have to either be transferred/sold to another FFL/SOT dealer, have to be destroyed or handed over to the AFT for "disposal".
Total garbage rules imo, but the only "legal" way to play the game.

F**kurfeelings69

2y↑3

Spread these out as fast as you can everywhere! It’s the only way too keep the government in check!

Michael Loew

39w

This piece of machinery is so complex that strict gun laws will prevent anyone, including criminals, to be able to posess one of these.

J Leiz

2y↑2

A law abiding gun owner always get punished because of the criminals that have illegal guns because the justice system fails us. If a gun owner has a unfortunate accident with his or her firearm. He or she will be punished more than a criminal breaking the law with the firearm.

SOME COONEY!!!

43w

Seems like a fun way to empty your mags as fast as your wallet. I think if they were legal, the novelty would wear off pretty quick.

GetMeThere1

2y↑18

Machine guns are EXTREMELY EFFICIENT at wasting ammo -- and not much else. That efficiency has reached a level of perfection in the "machine pistol," which is ALSO highly effective in preventing targets from being hit even once by gunfire. They DO have a place in military use -- not to kill soldiers, but to force the enemy to "duck" so that other soldiers can move in on their position.

jau

2y↑3

You can tell from this video haha, they barely move the gun and rounds splash all over the water... still, this could be dangerous

CptYo

2y↑4

If you have two guys with switches and 30 round mags shooting at someone, that’s 60 rounds in 2 seconds and they will hit something.

GetMeThere1

@CptYo You can tell any sort of story, or contrive any sort of scenario. The fact is that, on average, more people can be killed by aimed, semi-auto fire than fully automatic fire, in realistic shooting examples. The single exception is rare situations like the Las Vegas shooting, where people are packed in like sardines. If wherever your shoot there's meat, then yes, there will be carnage. In virtually all other circumstances, when there are more "gaps" between people, than flesh, most of your full-auto rounds are going to wind up in the gaps (and this is true of most "typical" semi-crowded spaces we see in day-to-day life. Like a crowded shopping mall, for example).

H2 Lo

@GetMeThere1 really? In close proximity, like in the scenario of a police coming to a house, the distance is usually less than 20 ft.... you don't need accuracy, if you spray enough bullet, you will hit something or someone. It's extremely dangerous for law enforcement or victims.

GetMeThere1

2y↑1

@Smoked beef and cheese If the first shot of a burst doesn't hit the target, it's extremely likely that none of the others will, either. If the first shot DOES, then -- according to your own criteria -- that's good enough. You are talking with someone who has actually USED full auto rifles, and after experience, I can tell you, their key utility (and it's a GOOD ONE) is that they can scare the crap out of who you are shooting at (always a very useful thing) and, if you're shooting at MANY people, and they happen to get nicely bunched up, you can do some quick damage. That's it.

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Highly Regarted

2y↑16

Vice in 2122: “so do you think this Gatling Railgun Laser overclock device is too powerful to be in the hands of criminals?”

Gatling rail laser modder: “I mean yeah this situation is scary as hell… to know another one of my family could be shot with a stray railgun projectile…I quit making laser Gatling gun mods after that”

Jon Doe

43w

😆😆

GeneralMills66

2y↑1

The only thing "disturbing" about this video is the insane inability of everyone in it to hit what they are shooting at

Law_dog

God i love how unstoppable these are 🥰

Micah Ross

I don’t think vice understands just how hard it is to get one of these. The only way to legally own one is by government approval which requires a class III firearms license (granted they’re in the USA). This also requires a tax stamp for each fully auto sear and cost usually around $30,000 to $100,000 for a fully automatic weapon/sears. Anyone can make an auto sear in their firearm, it’s very very illegal and will land you jail time. Clearly laws don’t work, make harsher punishments (although I don’t believe fully auto should be illegal). You can do just as much damage without it. Banning the device does nothing.. The people shown in this are clearly criminals and will not follow laws. Put them in jail for 25 years..

TheRamboJambo

1y↑3

imagine thinking its a normal 2A problem and not a home problem. my kids were exposed to firearms since age 2 and never stole a gun in the 8th grade and shot it off at graduation lol

Troy Mathis

2y↑5

There's actually easier versions of this the everyday person can make. I'd be interested in a statistic about how crime with automatics vs semi automatics adds up. The average person is more likely to shoot everything but what he's intends. Unless they are surrounded on all sides by "targets"

Colin

2y↑1

The average person.. one with no training and never shot a gun in their life?

Jonnhy Appleseed

2y↑2

People with 0 gun experience think a full auto "sprays bullets everywhere"... lol i just laugh.

R. Dub

2y↑1

just the rapid fire power will cause the opps to play defense... that joint will get a mofo up off you quick. you see how the police got blasted and didn't even fire back

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Treva Peres

How do you know if they are licenced or not? Just because some individual can produce some sort of authority or proof that says they can own a firearm, does not assure the community that they are safe individuals to own one!

grim

Just like Parents and Parenting

Mr.Cuddlesworth

2y↑15

I’m so happy! Maybe one day they will be available for everyone legally!

The Sunday Shooter

2y↑1

Disregard unjust laws

Mr.Cuddlesworth

2y↑1

@The Sunday Shooter unjust laws are not meant to be followed

Emi Izquierdo

I dont get why an autoGlock is bad in the wrong hands but a regular one is not.
Yes, you've more firepower but you can also have that with a perfectly legal .50 Desert Eagle

SNEHAL IIT BHU CSE

2y↑9

I have been watching vice from 2012. Every time i wonder how they are so awesome at getting the underground interviews

Travis Holcomb Jr.

It's sad when something most people would use to have a little fun on a range is manipulated by bad people

jerkfacebg

2y↑63

This is ridiculously negligible in terms of numbers. 203 Auto sears in felony cases is nothing compared to the total number of felony cases involving firearms.

The Internaut

2y↑1

Thanks for the context

iWillProbablyDieOnTwoWheels

2y↑4

Yousef mostafa Ten times zero is zero

cool and good

Don't worry, this number will grow.

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Napoleon Bonerfart

Vice, always teaching us cool stuff!

DavidRGD

2y↑1

Auto sear, like bump stocks, can manipulate semi-automatic weapons to do full auto. I am impressed but also shocked and baffled at the same time, given how deadly it became when it fell into the wrong hands.

SkefsonGames

2y↑5

Semi auto is more deadly than full auto because of accuracy

DavidRGD

@SkefsonGames Semi automatic, yes it is deadly because it allows to give clearer placement shots, and they can just shoot in their heads if they are precise.

Full automatic tho, while it may not do much because of inaccuracy, but to do this against a crowd of 100 or 200 people, full automatic has increased wounding potential. It would kill a few, but would injure up to like dozens or hundreds more.
(especially what had happened in the 2017 Las Vegas shooting, although less than 50% of the injuries was caused by gunshots, the rest were due to stampede amidst the chaos).

SonoranAstro

1y↑5

cops have F/A we should have F/A

Matthew Morel

1y↑3

@SonoranAstro unless they’re federal agents. No street cops has full auto. Still think that machine guns should be legal.

D B

43w

Imagine genuinely thinking you can actually regulate a tiny square piece of material like that, and not having the self awareness to realize how ridiculous of a proposition it is…

DoSy 22

2y↑31

As someone with a 3d print farm, who also makes frames for personal use. I get a lot of messages asking for Yankee boogles, sears, frames. It's wild the demand

tbm

2y↑38

most if not all of those guys are definitely feds

ASON

2y↑12

Feds

Reap Her 🔱

2y↑1

I’m so lost

DoSy 22

2y↑2

@tbm no no I mean like IRL people I know lol

DoSy 22

2y↑1

@ASON I mean IRL people I know

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Danoid

Funny thing is its actually harder to create guns that ARENT full auto. Auto sears in pistols and rifles just bypass those locks that were put in place.

EvenRookiesCanWrench

2y↑165

Once a law is enacted, people will find a way to get around said law. The Government keeps limiting what firearms that Americans can have, so Americans will make their own firearms or their own parts.

Robbb

2y↑6

Makes you a criminal.

Telencephelon

2y↑11

Yes. And jail is at the other end of said law. Thanks for the education of what a law is

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John Doe

2y↑4

I know I know its impractical and kinda ridiculous, but a glock with a drum mag will always be badass to me.

Wealth In Truth

2y↑1

A gat with balls ...

Vicken Oghlian

2y↑2

He handled that recoil like a boss

LilSquid Gaming

I feel so sad for the law enforcement officers going against these weapons RIP to the officers lives that are lost to these modifications.

CJ Sousa

2y↑69

Looks at a pile of parts “these are all machine guns?” “Yeah” amazing, guess when you’re making all the rules you can call things anything you want.

Justin Franks

2y↑17

The ATF once classified a shoestring with a metal ring on one end as being a "machine gun". Dead serious.

338lapsniper

2y↑7

Lol, a pile of coat hangers.

Slav Abtomat

I bet the AFT would have a heart attack if they went into Home Depot and saw all the "readily convertible" material sitting on the shelves! 🤣🤣

Dick Hertz

43w

A person of average intelligence knows what we are talking about when we talk about machinegns, so stop being cute…

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Underground wrld

What a dope thing everyone should own one.

DeviantDespot

2y↑324

Machine guns are easier to make than semi automatic. The only thing that device really does is disable the semi mechanism that prevents it from firing a second round using the force of the first and so on and on.

Fighting Sports Media

2y↑8

They seem to forget that getting caught with any kind of full auto gun is basically life in prison afaik

A P

2y↑12

Great explanation, definitely on point, the reason no one did this before isn't because it's complex but retether the fact that with such a gun you can't really aim, even being expert there is no telling where the bullets will go, in neighbours hours, random bystander or random car. Making this gun a terrible alternative for any real stand alone machine guns.

Konrad Cedro

2y↑4

Rip old vice

Yak

2y↑27

@Fighting Sports Media Gun laws don't work on criminals dude. Only law abiding citizens care.

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Tek

2y↑19

I love how the criminals have this and the government's response is to further limit the civilian's rights to defend themselves by banning 10+ round magazines

Tek

2y↑3

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Awwwrighty

2y↑7

I love how Fear-instilling they're trying to be with the editing and music. This is not new Vice. They've been around for decades.

Coach

45w

Ridiculous how the single piece is considered a firearm. Insane how overreaching gun control has become when they can not only label parts as a gun, but also tell you that you cannot own it.

Gabe Athhouse

Notice that the law enforcement community only points their fingers and places blame upon anything and everything except themselves. Not to say they are to blame for everything. After so many stories and actual cases I would think they would take a closer look at where they are to blame for certain things, and then work on changing it.

Adams: I vouch ▶️DWAGBABY ON TELEGRAM◀️

I appreciate you ⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️i got my clone card and my driver’s license from him I’m so glad and comfortable with his work he’s the best dude ever 🥰

A&B_things

2y↑35

"you can throw in more legislation but it's not going to affect the criminals". My man ended the documentary with that 💪

hopeman

@Wischmopps In many third world countries, governments have a strong control over weapons, which may even reach the death penalty in some cases. So controlling weapons is a characteristic of the Third World

valerie

There needs to be much harsher consequences for illegal use of firearms. There needs to be more rigorous regulation for ownership. If your of sound mind and clean record, you should have ZERO argument for strict gun ownership regulations. Suck it up. (I say this as a former gun owner)

Luke S.

2y↑3

Lmao what about no ? We shouldn't have to ask permission to the government for owning a gun... It should be a right not a privilege.

AP

2y↑2

@Luke S. Exactly.

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Aizen Sosuke

2y↑2

Thankfully congress is going to be right on it by making sure that anyone who has been following the law gets even more inconvenienced or worse re-labeling them criminals right after the fact.

Basil Wilford

The arguement for automatic weapons applies to both criminals and police officers.

GTime L

41w

Videos like this just make me want full-auto even more. Was this supposed to be a deterrent?

Mosaic Crone

2y↑1

I'm not only the Aunt of 3 Columbine Survivors, their grandmother & I personally survived the New Life Church Shooting. News stories like this scare the hell out of me. Especially when you know that they are not only so easy to make but added to that cops don't even know what they're looking at when they see one.
This is why I'm content to stay out of crowds & anything I'd need to go to the Mall for I just order on Amazon. Sounds melodramatic to most people but when you aren't even safe at school or church there is no safe public space. And even sadder still is that all these years later my neices & nephew had to make the decisions to homeschool their own children because our government refuses to actually DO anything to keep even the schools safe when every copycat school shooter has been inspired by Columbine

blueoceanvalley45465

48w

Good idea, show people how easy it is to convert to full auto. Very intelligent

Maple Maple

47w↑1

The information and the means are already out there on the streets lol. Whether vice shows it or not, it really makes no difference.

John 304

2y↑454

That turn “assault rifles” into “machine guns”. Oh my

Riverside Angler

2y↑45

When he said that it made me cringe 😬

A Vilhelm

2y↑37

Like saying you will make a sphere round.

Luke Gray

Isn't it the same thing

Big Boss

2y↑2

With all those crazy shooters out there I can just imagine this devices on their hands.....

John 304

2y↑14

I guess as long as it’s not a fully semi automatic machine gun we’re going to be alright hahah. The fact that they act like this stupid little fun switch is making a handgun more scary or more effective is absolutely baffling.

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Millennial, Secular, and Auth Right

Finally Vice does interesting reporting. And I want one, fear of losing 10 years of my life is holding me back.

Chris Rod

2y↑74

Anyone with any common sense knows switches are just range toys. They’re impractical for accuracy, ammo is expensive, you can shoot accurately with a semi automatic.

Blynky Land

2y↑12

But we know how many of the people around us really don't don't any have common sense, Chris.

Coach_Chrom

2y↑4

Well said, too bad the ones who use them have never gone to the range, or learned anything properly... The real world is their range and the more they spray, the better.

Dick Cheney

@henk de klap steen I am fairly certain a Glock 18 is not a strategic weapons by any stretch of the imagination. Glock is Austrian, not American btw.

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MaximumNewbage

To be honest, in a mass shooting situation, a guy with an automatic is LESS dangerous than a guy with a semi-automatic, because automatic fire is almost impossible to control. So most of those bullets will not be hitting anybody. The primary purpose of automatic fire in war is to scare/suppress the enemy into keeping their head down, so that your buddies can advance and flank the enemy without the enemy shooting at them.

A semi-automatic is more accurate, which means more deadly, because it only takes 1 bullet to kill or maim you. So in a gang warfare or mass shooting situation, someone with a semi-automatic weapon should scare you a hell of a lot more than someone with an automatic weapon.

Map Led

Wheedling that into another person is DEADLY. Goes on to miss the plate in all 40 of the automatic rounds.

clyde642006

The feds can push for as many laws and bans as they want, criminals are going to get auto sears and they’re going to get guns. The bans and laws always wind up just hurting the licensed dealers and the gun owners who follow the laws.

Mr. M

2y↑100

I’m just proud that he called it a “magazine” and not a “clip”. We’re making progress people. Look at us!! 👌🏾

Pubz

2y↑5

@Bathrobe dwane cope

moneyball82

2y↑1

clip is the way

LeoNitrixKingZ Jr

50 round clips are cool

Eric Kay

2y↑3

He's so well spoken😁

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Forty Two

2y↑1

Good job vice, more people need to know about it

Destin Ramsey

2y↑1

To be honest, did not expect the VICE dude to handle it that well.

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