The core of the band was Don Joyce (February 9, 1944 – July 22, 2015), Mark Hosler, Richard Lyons (April 19, 1959 – April 19, 2016), David Wills (aka "The Weatherman"). Chris Grigg is a former member. Peter Conheim joined the band in 1997.
Negativland has released a number of albums, ranging from pure collage to more musical affairs. These have mostly been released on their own label, Seeland Records. In the late 1980s and early 1990s, they produced several recordings for SST Records, most notably Escape From Noise, Helter Stupid, and U2 (well-known for the U2 lawsuit, which nearly destroyed them as a band).
Don Joyce produced the weekly interactive radio program Over The Edge on listener-supported KPFA in Berkeley until his death. A significant number of Negativland's recent releases have been formed from material the band developed live on the show. According to the band's website, in late 2015, all 34 years of “Over the Edge” (5000-plus hours’ worth) will be available on the Internet Archive, the result of a multi-year archiving project.
Early history
Negativland started in Concord, California in 1979 around the core founding members of Lyons and Hosler (who were in high school at the time), releasing an eponymous debut in 1980.
A number of releases followed in the early 1980s, but it wasn't until after the release of their breakthrough sample and cut-up sonic barrage Escape From Noise in 1987 that Negativland gained wider attention.
Following the somewhat unexpected success of this album, Negativland faced the prospect of going on a money-losing tour. To prevent this, they put together a phony press release claiming that their song Christianity is Stupid (featuring the sampled and edited voice of an actor repeating "Christianity is stupid! Communism is good!", taken from the propaganda movie If Footmen Tire You, What Will Horses Do?) was an inspiration for a real mass-murder committed by David Brom in Rochester, Minnesota.
The resulting fallout and media frenzy, based on the humorously fabricated claims by Negativland, had the effect of pointing out the venality of the mass media. Though the story was completely unsubstantiated by any facts, the lurid combination of murder, religion, and "rock" music proved too tempting for the media to ignore. The story ran on TV news shows, newspapers, and magazines, with little to no fact-checking. Soon, the world was informed of the "Killer Song" that supposedly led some kid to murder his parents with an ax.
The scandal became the foundation for their next release Helter Stupid, featuring a cover photo of a TV news journalist intoning the fake ax murder story, with the news station's caption "Killer Song" above his head, and a photo of the ax-murderer.
The U2 record incident
Negativland's next project was the infamous U2 record with samples from "America's Top 40" host Casey Kasem. In 1991, Negativland released a single with the title U2 displayed in very large type on the front of the packaging, and "Negativland" in a smaller typeface. An image of the Lockheed U-2 spy plane was also on the single cover.
The songs within were parodies of the well-known song "I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For", including kazoos and extensive sampling of the original song. The song I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For features a musical backing to an extended profane rant from Kasem, lapsing out of his more polished and professional tone during a frustrating rehearsal, commenting, for instance: "These guys are from England and who gives a shit?" (U2's members are in fact from Ireland.)
U2's label, Island Records, sued Negativland claiming that the "U2" violated trademark law and that the song itself violated copyright law. Island Records also contended that the single was an attempt to deliberately confuse U2 fans, then awaiting Achtung Baby.
Funds exhausted, Negativland settled out of court. Most copies of the single were recalled and destroyed. By the mid-1990s, rap had made authorized sampling more common in mainstream music, but the single "U2", for which Negativland did not obtain clearance to use U2 samples, is still illegal to sell in the United States (though available for free download from Negativland's official web site).
In June, 1992, R.U. Sirius, publisher of the magazine Mondo 2000, was asked to interview Dave Evans (aka "The Edge") to promote U2's impending multi-million dollar Zoo TV Tour, which featured found sounds and live sampling from mass media outlets (things for which Negativland had been known for some time). Sirius, unbeknownst to the Edge, decided to have his friends Joyce and Hosler conduct the interview. Fresh from Island's lawsuit, they peppered the Edge with questions regarding his ideas about the use of sampling in U2's new tour and the legality of using copyrighted material without permission.
Midway through the interview, Joyce and Hosler revealed their identities as members of Negativland. An embarrassed the Edge reported that U2 were bothered by the sledgehammer legal approach Island Records took in their lawsuit, and furthermore that much of the legal wrangling took place without U2's knowledge: "By the time we (U2) realized what was going on it was kinda too late, and we actually did approach the record company on your (Negativland's) behalf and said, 'Look, c'mon, this is just, this is very heavy...'" Island Records reported to Negativland that U2 never authorised samples of their material; Evans' response was, "that's complete bollocks, there's like, there's at least six records out there that are direct samples from our stuff."
The "U2" single (along with other related material) was re-released in 2001 on a "bootleg" album entitled These Guys Are From England And Who Gives A Shit on "Seelard Records" (a parody of "Seeland Records"). It is thought likely that Negativland themselves were responsible for the re-release and that U2 gave their blessing. Although Negativland's web site refers to this release as a bootleg, it is available from major retailers and Negativland's own mail-order business.
Negativland are interested in intellectual property rights and argue that their use of U2's and others' material falls under fair use. In 1995, they released a book with accompanying CD called Fair Use about copyright law in general, and the U2 incident in particular. They were the main subjects of Craig Baldwin's documentary "Sonic Outlaws", detailing the use of culture jamming to subvert the messages of more traditional media outlets. Many other artists push the boundaries of copyright law in a similar way, including John Oswald, the Evolution Control Committee, The Bran Flakes, Sir Mildred Pierce, and People Like Us.
Chumbawamba
In 1999, Negativland collaborated with UK anarchist band Chumbawamba to produce the album The ABCs of Anarchism, largely based around the writings of Alexander Berkman and cut-ups of Tubthumping, Anarchy in the UK and the theme tune to the children's program Teletubbies.
Recent developments
In 2003, members of Negativland contributed their efforts to Creative Commons, an organization devoted to providing artists a broader range of copyright options.
In September 2005, to celebrate the 25th anniversary of the band, Negativland curated an art exhibit in Manhattan's Gigantic Artspace gallery. The exhibit, Negativlandland, included a number of works from and inspired by Negativland recordings, video projection of music videos created by the band and others, and some artwork created specifically for the show, such as an animatronic Abraham Lincoln figure (inspired by the band's Lincoln cut-up piece God Bull) and a hands-on exhibit featuring the Booper, the audio-processing unit that Wills assembled out of old radio parts. The show then appeared in Minneapolis on May 12, 2006, at Creative Electric Studios.
On July 22, 2015, former lead vocalist Don Joyce died. On April 19, 2016, Richard Lyons died.
Former band member Ian Allen died on January 17, 2015.
Discography
Albums
Negativland (1980)
Points (1981)
A Big 10-8 Place (1983)
Over the Edge Vol. 1: JAMCON'84 (1985)
Escape From Noise (1987)
Helter Stupid (1989)
Over the Edge Vol. 2: Pastor Dick: Muriel's Purse Fund (1990)
Over the Edge Vol. 3: The Weatherman's Dumb Stupid Come-Out Line (1990)
Over the Edge Vol. 4: Dick Vaughn (1990)
Free (1993)
Over the Edge Vol. 5: Crosley Bendix: The Radio Reviews (1993)
Over the Edge Vol. 6: The Willsaphone Stupid Show (1994)
Over the Edge Vol. 7: Time Zones Exchange Project (1994)
Fair Use: The Story of the Letter U and the Numeral 2 (1995)
Over the Edge Vol. 1½: The Starting Line with Dick Goodbody (1995, partial reissue)
Over the Edge Vol. 8: Sex Dirt (1995)
Dispepsi (1997)
Negativ(e)land: Live On Tour (1997)
Over the Edge Vol. 4: Dick Vaughn's Moribund Music of the '70s (2001, expanded reissue)
Deathsentences of the Polished and Structurally Weak (2002)
No Business (2005)
It's All in Your Head FM: Over the Edge Live on Stage (2006)
Thigmotactic (2008)
It's All In Your Head (2014)
True False (2019)
The World Will Decide (2020)
Singles/EPs
U2 (1991)
Guns (1992)
The Letter U and the Numeral 2 (1992)
Truth In Advertising (1997)
Happy Heroes (1998)
The ABCs of Anarchism (1999)
No Brain (2021)
Bootlegs
Negativconcertland (1993)
These Guys Are From England and Who Gives a Shit (2001)
michael jackson
Negativland Lyrics
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"I'm gonna record all the noise."
"Oh, yeah?"
"Well, you know, actually, right here in this neighborhood, we
Don't have a heck of a lot of noise....
(No, we don't either.)
Um, because uh, well, you know, there's, the big city isn't around here,
(oh sure) and once, we do hear somebody shoot off a (yeah)
Something, and that's about all. So, it's very quiet here..."
"Whoah, look out, here I come!"
"Michael
Jackson ... look what you've done!"
MICHAEL JACKSON
"You've spattered mud all over my dress with your old bicycle!"
PAUL MCCARTNEY AND MICHAEL JACKSON
"Gee Carol, those mud stains'll never wash out."
BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN
"Oh, Jean, what am I going to do?"
VAN HALEN
"Oh, I'm sorry, Carol, you were too close."
TINA TURNER
"Sorry? What good does THAT do?"
DAVID BOOWIE
"You know you aren't supposed to be riding your bike during lunch hour."
PRINCE
MADONNA
HUEY LEWIS AND THE NEWS
THE CARS
HERBIE HANCOCK
BONNIE TYLER
ZZ TOP
"WEIRD" AL YANKOVIC
CYNDI ... LOOPER
PINK FLOYD
THE PRETENDERS
BILLY JOEL
BILLY IDOL
ELTON JOHN
NEIL YOUNG
SHEENA EASTON
JOHN LENNON
THE ALAN PARSONS PROJECT
RICK SPRINGFIELD
THE ROLLING STONES
PAT BENATAR
HALL AND OATES
ADAM ANT
QUEEN
JOHN COUGAR MELLENCAMP
FLEETWOOD MAC
DURAN DURAN
POLICE
EURYTHMICS
CULTURE CLUB INCLUDING BOY GEORGE
KENNY ROGERS
STEVIE WONDER
J. IGLESIAS AND DIANA ROSS
DONNA SUMMER
DEAN MARTIN
KISS
AND WE ESPECIALLY CALL FOR THE JUDGMENT IN THIS HOUR AND THE
DESTROYING OF
ROCK MUSIC DIRECTED SPECIFICALLY AGAINST CHILDREN
AND WORKING SPECIFICALLY THROUGH THESE INDIVIDUALS
FOR WHOM WE CALL FOR THE JUDGMENT IN THE SACRED FIRE IN THIS HOUR
BEFORE
THE THRONE OF ALMIGHTY GOD
"Whoah, look out, here I come!"
The lyrics to Negativland's song "Michael Jackson" are a commentary on the controversy and backlash surrounding Michael Jackson's public persona and image in the 1980s. The opening lines of the song feature a conversation about recording noise in a quiet neighborhood, which leads into a list of various musicians and bands who are accused of being a negative influence on children, culminating in a call for judgment against "rock music directed specifically against children."
The inclusion of Michael Jackson in this list is significant, as he had recently faced accusations of child sexual abuse at the time the song was released in 1987. The line "look what you've done!" is a reference to the damage Jackson's reputation may have caused to the music industry, as well as the harm he may have caused to potential victims. The song's message is that music can have a negative impact on children and that some musicians should be held accountable for the messages they promote.
Negativland's use of audio samples and found sounds in their music was a precursor to the sampling and mashup techniques that became popular in the 1990s and beyond. The group faced legal challenges for their use of copyrighted material, and their album "U2" was famously recalled by their label due to its unauthorized use of U2's music.
Line by Line Meaning
What are you gonna do?
Inquire Michael Jackson about his plans
I'm gonna record all the noise.
Claim to record every sound
Oh, yeah?
Express slight doubt
Well, you know, actually, right here in this neighborhood, we
Don't have a heck of a lot of noise....
(No, we don't either.)
Um, because uh, well, you know, there's, the big city isn't around here,
(oh sure) and once, we do hear somebody shoot off a (yeah)
Couple of guns in the distance, and somebody rattles some tin cans or
Something, and that's about all. So, it's very quiet here...
Clarify that it is quiet in the area and describe the usual sound occurrences
Whoah, look out, here I come!
Shout a warning to someone about their impending arrival
Michael
Jackson ... look what you've done!
Blame Michael Jackson for splashing mud on clothes
Gee Carol, those mud stains'll never wash out.
Express concern about the difficulty in cleaning the mud stains
Oh, Jean, what am I going to do?
Ask for advice on how to handle the situation
Oh, I'm sorry, Carol, you were too close.
Apologize for getting mud on someone due to their proximity
Sorry? What good does THAT do?
Question the usefulness of apologizing
You know you aren't supposed to be riding your bike during lunch hour.
Remind someone of the prohibition on biking during lunch time
We call for the judgment in this hour and the
destroying of
rock music directed specifically against children
and working specifically through these individuals
for whom we call for the judgment in the sacred fire in this hour
before
the throne of almighty God
Express a plea for the destruction of rock music that affects children who are targeted via particular musicians, calling for divine intervention
Michael
Refer to Michael Jackson
PAUL MCCARTNEY AND MICHAEL JACKSON
Include the duo of Paul McCartney and Michael Jackson
BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN
Mention Bruce Springsteen
VAN HALEN
Refer to Van Halen
TINA TURNER
Include Tina Turner
DAVID BOOWIE
Mention David Bowie
MADONNA
Include Madonna
HUEY LEWIS AND THE NEWS
Refer to Huey Lewis and the News
THE CARS
Include The Cars
HERBIE HANCOCK
Mention Herbie Hancock
BONNIE TYLER
Refer to Bonnie Tyler
ZZ TOP
Include ZZ Top
"WEIRD" AL YANKOVIC
Mention "Weird" Al Yankovic
CYNDI ... LOOPER
Refer to Cyndi Lauper
PINK FLOYD
Include Pink Floyd
THE PRETENDERS
Mention The Pretenders
BILLY JOEL
Include Billy Joel
BILLY IDOL
Refer to Billy Idol
ELTON JOHN
Mention Elton John
NEIL YOUNG
Include Neil Young
SHEENA EASTON
Refer to Sheena Easton
JOHN LENNON
Mention John Lennon
THE ALAN PARSONS PROJECT
Include The Alan Parsons Project
RICK SPRINGFIELD
Mention Rick Springfield
THE ROLLING STONES
Refer to The Rolling Stones
PAT BENATAR
Include Pat Benatar
HALL AND OATES
Mention Hall and Oates
ADAM ANT
Include Adam Ant
QUEEN
Refer to Queen
JOHN COUGAR MELLENCAMP
Mention John Cougar Mellencamp
FLEETWOOD MAC
Include Fleetwood Mac
DURAN DURAN
Mention Duran Duran
POLICE
Refer to The Police
EURYTHMICS
Include Eurythmics
CULTURE CLUB INCLUDING BOY GEORGE
Mention Culture Club, with Boy George included
KENNY ROGERS
Refer to Kenny Rogers
STEVIE WONDER
Include Stevie Wonder
J. IGLESIAS AND DIANA ROSS
Mention Julio Iglesias and Diana Ross
DONNA SUMMER
Refer to Donna Summer
DEAN MARTIN
Include Dean Martin
KISS
Refer to Kiss
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Desmond Son aka cloud9savagehenry
I love this record. Way Way ahead of their time. Peace... Desmond Son.
Jeff Stapleton
RIP David Booie
Dotan Brand
in memorial to the famous pop star - michael jackson. look what you've done! p.s. i recommend to you all watch the movie mister lonely which is also about michael jackson
M B
wonder if anyone has a transcription of exactly what he says during the super reverby part at the end.
Reverend Al
Well, whatta ya know. I went to find this and it was put up just six days before Michael Jackson's final judgement.
Wusstunes Archive
oddly nostalgic
Hans Castorp
I like how Weird Al made the list
bjwwilcera
RIP Don Joyce 1944-2015
Mum2Boys
It's a audio collage by Negativland comprising out of a church recording, mixed with some other recording.
orionmyth
exactly.very krazy timing.