1. a Northern Irish rock an… Read Full Bio ↴There are at least two bands named Them:
1. a Northern Irish rock and roll band that was formed in Belfast in 1963
2. a US/German Heavy Metal band formed in 2008
1. Them was a Northern Irish rock and roll band that was formed in Belfast in 1963. Best known for the garage rock standard "Gloria" and for launching singer-songwriter Van Morrison's careers, the group had an energetic sound that fit right into the British blues and rock boom of the 60s. With Van Morrison on vocals and harmonica, it featured as well Billy Harrison on guitar, Eric Wrixen on piano and keyboards, Alan Henderson on bass, and Ronnie Millings on drums, with several other musicians replacing those artists or doing side contributions during the life of the band.
The group released its first single, "Don't Start Crying Now"/"One Two Brown Eyes, in August 1964. The single was a flop. The band's managers and producers then hired session players Jimmy Page, Peter Bardens, and drummer Bobby Graham to back Morrison on a cover of Big Joe Williams' "Baby Please Don't Go". The single, which featured the now-legendary "Gloria" as a B-side, was a smash in the U.K., sailing to #10 on the charts in December 1964. Radio DJs were also in for a big treat when the turned the record around and set loose the powerful B-side.
The band then released its biggest hit in the U.K., "Here Comes the Night"/"All for Myself", which hit #2 in March 1965. It went to #24 in the U.S. that May as well, and Them enjoyed their well-earned success. Later that year, the instrumental track additionally "Mystic Eyes" reached #33 in the U.S. The following year, American band Shadows of Knight had a top ten U.S. hit with their rendition of "Gloria", and the tune has had a long life since, covered by multiple other artists such as rockers The Doors
The band went on to release two albums on Decca, 'The Angry Young Them' and 'Them Again', and both of them failed to sell. The group found itself at a crossroads. In mid-1966, Van Morrison left the band to pursue a solo career. The rest of the outfit continued on into the early 70s, releasing four albums and touring steadily after relocating to California around 1967. Two of these post-Morrison albums, 'Now And Them' and 'Time Out! Time In For Them', found the band experimenting with psychedelia. Them reunited briefly in 1979 without Morrison yet still struggled to reach a major audience.
Van Morrison went on to greater success and fame as a solo artist, but Them's combination of garage rock, blues, and soul proved a major influence on the next generation of rock musicians, and the group's best-known singles have earned praise for decades. "Gloria" still remains a rock n roll classic.
In April 1964, Van Morrison established an R&B club at the Maritime Hotel, Belfast with entrepreneurs Jimmy Conlon, Jerry McKernan and Gerry McKervey (known as the "3Js"). Morrison gave notice to the group with which he performed at the time, the Golden Eagles. With an anticipated opening night for the new R&B club approaching, he embarked on a mission to find his ideal line-up. He had recently been introduced to The Gamblers, an East Belfast group formed in 1962 by Ronnie Milling (drums, born 27 April 1940), Billy Harrison (guitar and lead vocals, born William Harrison on 14 October 1942), and Alan Henderson (bass guitar, born 26 November 1944, died April 2017). Eric Wrixon, who was still in school, had been recruited as piano player and keyboardist. Morrison joined in on tenor saxophone, harmonica and vocals. The group rehearsed over Dougie Knight's bicycle shop in Shaftesbury Square, Belfast in preparation for their debut at the Maritime. As the group now felt they needed a new name, they followed Eric Wrixon's suggestion and the Gamblers changed to Them after the 1954 sci-fi horror film.
On 14 April 1964, an advertisement in a Belfast newspaper asked: "Who Are? What Are? THEM". Similarly curious advertisements followed until the Friday before the gig (17 April 1964) announced that Them would be performing that evening at Club Rado at the Maritime Hotel. Attendance at the two hundred capacity venue quickly grew with a packed house by the third week.
Them performed without a routine, fired by the crowd's energy: Morrison later commented that while the band was "out of our element" making records... "The way we did the numbers at the Maritime was more spontaneous, more energetic, more everything, because we were feeding off the crowd." Morrison ad libbed songs as he performed and "Gloria", the classic song he had written at eighteen years old, took shape here and could last up to twenty minutes.[9] According to Morrison, "Them lived and died on the stage at the Maritime Hotel" but only very rudimentary recordings survive. One fan's recording, of "Turn On Your Love Light" made its way to Mervyn and Phil Solomon, who contacted Decca Records' Dick Rowe, who then travelled to Belfast to hear Them perform. Rowe and Phil Solomon agreed on a two-year contract with the members of the band then signed up to Solomon. Morrison, at eighteen, had to have his father sign for him. Within a few weeks, the group was taken to England and into Decca's recording studio in West Hampstead for their first recording session.
Them's first recording session took place in London on 5 July 1964. "Turn on Your Love Light" and "Gloria" were recorded during this session as were both sides of their first single, "Don't Start Crying Now" and "One Two Brown Eyes" as well as "Groovin'", "Philosophy" and Bo Diddley's "You Can't Judge a Book by Its Cover". This session was remarkable in its employment of two drums tracks, which can be clearly heard in the stereo mixes of "Gloria" and "One Two Brown Eyes". Rowe used session musicians Arthur Greenslade on organ and Bobby Graham on second drum kit. At this late stage it became clear that the parents of Eric Wrixon, a minor in law, would not sign the contract on his behalf so he was replaced by Pat John McAuley. The single, released in August, did not prove successful.
Their next single, Big Joe Williams's "Baby Please Don't Go" substituted Andy White on drums, Phil Coulter on second keyboard, and added Jimmy Page on rhythm guitar. Lead guitar was the work of Billy Harrison.[citation needed] It was released in November with "Gloria" as its B-side. In December 1964, Them made their television debut, joining The Rolling Stones, on Ready Steady Go!. Their manager, Phil Solomon got the track used as the show's signature tune and within two weeks it was at No.19 on the UK Singles Chart, eventually peaking at No.10.
In January 1965, Them toured England for a second time, staying at the Royal Hotel, which disc jockey Jimmy Savile used as his London base. Savile helped promote the band in his column for The People but Them earned a reputation for bad manners and sarcasm in their interviews. Billy Harrison said the attitude problem may have been caused by anti-Irish sentiments on the continent at the time. But, when they were interviewed by a reporter from the Irish Independent, the reporter remarked, "They were the most boorish bunch of youngsters I'd come across in my short career". Phil Coulter recalled the band's interview with a female reporter: "They would just sit and mutter monosyllabic grunts to themselves and give her off-the-wall answers". (Morrison as a solo artist raised such interviews to a "negative art form"). Their management promoted Them by scheduling appearances on Ready Steady Go! and on Top Of The Pops where, rather than performing live, they were expected to mime and lip sync. Morrison said of this appearance, "It was ridiculous. We were totally anti that type of thing... and we had to get into suits and have make-up put on and all that...". He also revealed how the band had, until that time, considered the programme a complete joke.
Their next release was Them's biggest hit in the UK, "Here Comes the Night". The producer was also the writer of the song, Bert Berns, an American, who had also co-written "Twist and Shout". Backed with "All for Myself" it charted in the UK at No.2 on 22 April 1965, five weeks after entering the charts, and went to No.24 in the U.S. in May. Both tracks originate from the same session in October 1964 that yielded "Baby Please Don't Go" but were temporarily shelved by Decca in favor of Lulu's version of "Here Comes the Night" which only reached # 50 on the British charts.
On 11 April 1965, Them made a guest appearance at the NME Pollwinners Concert at Wembley Empire Pool: Jimmy Savile was MC for this event, which also included The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Kinks, The Animals, The Searchers, The Moody Blues and Dusty Springfield. The bands had been expected to keep to their current hits, but Them audaciously segued from "Here Comes the Night" into a seven-minute version of "Turn on Your Lovelight". After the performances, NME's Derek Johnson commented that Morrison had "more genuine soul than any of his British contemporaries".
The band released their first album, The Angry Young Them, in June 1965 (UK) and it appeared in the USA on Parrot Records in July. But Them's next single, "One More Time", chosen by Phil Solomon, failed – according to Billy Harrison because it never constituted single material. In July 1965, the band added English drummer Terry Noon and Scottish lead guitarist Joe Baldi (born Joseph Baldi, 10 March 1943, in La Spezia, Italy) but they left in September. Their second album, Them Again, was released in January 1966 in the UK and in April 1966 in the USA.
The group was marketed in the United States as part of the British Invasion. After the success of "Here Comes the Night", the band scored a chart hit again later in 1965 with "Mystic Eyes", which reached No.33. Them Again, released in April 1966 in the US, also charted and the band began a US tour in May 1966. From 30 May to 18 June, Them had a residency at the famous Whisky a Go Go in Los Angeles. For the final week The Doors opened for Them and on the last night the two bands and Morrisons jammed a twenty-minute version of "Gloria" and a twenty-five-minute version of "In the Midnight Hour".[24] Them went on to headline at The Fillmore in San Francisco, California and then to Hawaii, where disputes erupted among band members and management over money. The band broke apart, Morrison and Henderson returning to Belfast while Ray Elliott (born Raymond Elliott, 23 January 1939, in Belfast, Co Antrim, Northern Ireland) and David Harvey (born David Tufney, 29 July 1943, in Bude, Cornwall) decided to stay in America.
Van Morrison has placed the break-up of Them in context: "There was no motive behind anything you did back then. You just did it because you wanted to do it and you enjoyed doing it. That's the way the thing started, but it got twisted somewhere along the way and everybody involved in it got twisted as well, including me."(1967) "You can't take something like that, put it in a box and place a neat little name on it, then try to sell it. That's what they tried to do. That's what killed Them." (1973)
Van Morrison went on to great success and fame as a solo artist, but Them's combination of garage rock and blues proved a major influence on the next generations of rock musicians, and the group's best-known singles have become staples of rock and roll.
Post-Morrison
In late August 1965, Billy Harrison and Pat McAuley formed a rival Them, competing with the Morrison/Henderson line-up and leading to legal action. In March 1966, the latter won the rights to the name while the former, now without Harrison but with Pat's brother Jackie McAuley (born John McAuley, 14 December 1946, in Coleraine, County Londonderry, Northern Ireland; ex-Them, ex-Kult), were only allowed to call themselves 'Other Them' in the U.K. The McAuley brothers became, unofficially, the Belfast Gypsies (or Gipsies), though they were never actually billed as such, and recorded two singles on Island Records (one released under the name Freaks of Nature) and one Swedish-only album, all produced by Kim Fowley. They toured Europe billed as Them and released a French EP under that name but broke up in November 1966. Not long after that the Morrison line-up also reached the end of the road. In March 1967 Morrison did a short tour of the Netherlands backed by Cuby & the Blizzards and then left for New York to start his solo career. The rest regrouped in Belfast, recruited Kenny McDowell (born Kenneth McDowell, 21 December 1944, in Belfast, County Antrim, Northern Ireland) (ex-Mad Lads) as lead singer and continued touring and recording steadily after relocating to the USA in early 1967 at the invitation of producer Ray Ruff. Two albums, Now and Them and Time Out! Time In for Them, found the band experimenting with psychedelia. Then Jim Armstrong and Kenny McDowell returned to Belfast to perform as Sk'boo (Armstrong, McDowell and Ray Elliot reunited in Chicago in 1969 as "Truth" and recorded a number of demos and soundtrack songs later released as Of Them And Other Tales). Henderson hired session musicians for two more records for Ray Ruff's Happy Tiger Records, in a hard rock vein with country and folk elements; Them (1970) featured Jerry Cole as guitarist while Them In Reality (1971) featured lead guitarist Jim Parker and drummer John Stark (both ex-Kitchen Cinq). Henderson also co-wrote a rock opera, Truth Of Truths, produced by Ray Ruff in 1971. These efforts were met with consumer indifference and in 1972 Them dissolved. Alan Henderson, Billy Harrison and Eric Wrixon reunited in 1979, without Morrison, recording another album, Shut Your Mouth and undertaking a tour of Germany using Billy Bell on guitar and Mel Austin as vocalist. Since the 1990s, Wrixon had toured under the moniker of "Them the Belfast Blues Band", at one point comprising ex-Them guitarists, Jim Armstrong and Billy Harrison.
The band's 1964 recording of "Gloria" was inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame in 1999. It was rated at No.69 on Dave Marsh's 1989 book, The Heart of Rock and Soul, The 1001 Greatest Singles Ever and "Mystic Eyes" was rated at No.458. "Gloria" was listed at No.208 on the 2004 Rolling Stone magazine's feature, The 500 Greatest Songs of All Time.
2. Them is a Heavy Metal band with members from the USA and Germany. Vocalist Troy Norr formed the band in 2008 as a King Diamond tribute band that played several live shows between 2008 and 2011. In 2014 Troy restarted the band and gave it its own identity. They released four albums and one EP with original songs since then.
Mighty Like A Rose
Them Lyrics
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A thousand sorrows
All in one
And mixed with mugs
And millionaires
You have done
Ya been and gone and done it
And just what you don't know
Up there you got hid
Lord, you're only
Fourteen summers
And God knows
Yeah, child
You're gettin' mighty
Like a rose
You got pulled
For tryin' to straighten
Up this town
And looked bashful
Bribin' old, bent
Barrister brown
Ya know, their turnin' on
In the classroom
Ain't the point
It's when you're missin' out
Teacher teach ya how to
Roll a joint
Lord, hey, while you're down there
Lookin' up my nose
Yeah, child you're gettin' mighty
Like a rose
Next time you're tryin' to fire me
Ya make the scene
You're gettin' your sugar cubes
For breakfast
Ya know what I mean
And the, the hazard, oh
The wind blows
Through you ears
Ya haven't got enough
Of those
What ya haven't got for years
Yeah, but never mind
Steppin' on my toes
Yeah, child
You're gettin' mighty
Like a rose
Yeah, hey, hey
You're mighty like a rose
Uh-huh, aww, aww, aww, aww, aww, aww
Mmm-mm, mmm-mm, mmm-mm, mmm-mm
The lyrics to Them's song "Mighty Like A Rose" are somewhat cryptic and difficult to interpret with certainty. However, the lyrics seem to touch on the theme of rebellion against authority and social norms. The singer in the song is addressing a young person who has already experienced a lot of life and claims that they are "getting mighty like a rose." The line "You have drowned a thousand sorrows" suggests that this person has seen and experienced a lot of pain and hardship but has somehow managed to come out the other side. They have mixed with both "mugs and millionaires," in other words, they have interacted with a wide range of people from different social classes. The singer also mentions that this person has done something for a "quid," meaning that they have done something risky or illegal for money. The line "just what you don't know up there you got hid" suggests that this person may be hiding something from authority figures.
The singer then shifts to talk about a situation where this person has tried to "straighten up this town" and has been caught by the authorities. They looked "bashful" when bribing an "old, bent barrister brown." The line "teacher teach ya how to roll a joint" suggests a disregard for traditional education and rebellion against authority figures such as teachers.
The line "Next time you're tryin' to fire me" suggests that the singer is in a position of authority over this young person, perhaps a boss or teacher. The line "Ya know what I mean" suggests that the bribe-taking and rebellion is a shared secret between the singer and the young person.
Overall, the song seems to be exploring the idea of rebellion against authority and social norms. The singer finds this young person interesting and even admirable in some ways for their willingness to go against the grain. However, there is also a sense of concern about where this rebellion might lead.
Line by Line Meaning
You have drowned
You have managed to overcome a multitude of sorrows
A thousand sorrows
Countless negative experiences and occurrences
All in one
All of the negative experiences have compounded into one overwhelming feeling
And mixed with mugs
The sorrows are intertwined with everyday routines and mundane activities
And millionaires
The sorrows are not exclusive to any particular economic class
You have done
You have managed to process and move on from the sorrows
Ya been and gone and done it
You have accomplished a feat
For a quid
For a small price, monetary or otherwise
And just what you don't know
You have achieved success despite your lack of knowledge or awareness
Up there you got hid
Your success is not widely acknowledged or recognized
Lord, you're only
Despite your young age
Fourteen summers
Being only fourteen years old
And God knows
Even the higher power is aware
Yeah, child
A term of endearment for the person being addressed
You're gettin' mighty
You are becoming quite
Like a rose
Comparable to a beautiful rose
You got pulled
You were caught
For tryin' to straighten
For attempting to correct or improve
Up this town
The location or community being referred to
And looked bashful
You appeared shy or embarrassed
Bribin' old, bent
Paying off a corrupt and old-fashioned
Barrister brown
A lawyer with a particular last name
Ya know, their turnin' on
The behavior of others around you
In the classroom
In a formal academic setting
Ain't the point
This behavior is not the main issue
It's when you're missin' out
The problem arises when you do not participate in such behaviors
Teacher teach ya how to
The person responsible for teaching you
Roll a joint
The specific act being taught
Lord, hey, while you're down there
An exclamation to get someone's attention
Lookin' up my nose
Inspecting a part of the singer's body
Next time you're tryin' to fire me
If there is ever an attempt to remove or dismiss the singer
Ya make the scene
You will create a noticeable stir or commotion
You're gettin' your sugar cubes
You yourself are receiving a reward or benefit
For breakfast
Starting the day off with this reward
Ya know what I mean
Asking the listener if they understand the situation
And the, the hazard, oh
A dangerous situation
The wind blows
A force that is particularly potent
Through you ears
Entering into the auditory senses
Ya haven't got enough
The person is lacking in
Of those
Referring to the auditory organs that were previously mentioned
What ya haven't got for years
This has been a deficiency for a significant amount of time
Yeah, but never mind
Despite this issue
Steppin' on my toes
A metaphorical action that suggests the singer has been annoyed or bothered
Yeah, child
Another term of endearment for the person being addressed
You're gettin' mighty
Becoming quite
Like a rose
Comparable to a beautiful rose
Yeah, hey, hey
An exclamation
You're mighty like a rose
You have developed into something spectacular
Uh-huh, aww, aww, aww, aww, aww, aww
Vocalizations that add emphasis to the previous statement
Mmm-mm, mmm-mm, mmm-mm, mmm-mm
Non-lexical vocalizations that have no particular meaning
Lyrics © Warner Chappell Music, Inc.
Written by: VAN MORRISON
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