Kom Wat Dichterbij
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Gene Thomas Maandag ochtend in mijn hart De tijd gaat weer zo tergend…
Metejoor Laten we samen zijn Kom dichterbij Kom dichterbij Niemand di…
OT Maandag ochtend in mijn hart De tijd gaat weer zo tergend…
Paul de Leeuw kom wat dichter bij me je armen om me heen ook al…
Regi Maandag ochtend in mijn hart De tijd gaat weer zo tergend…
Regi Feat. Jake Reese & Ot Maandag ochtend in mijn hart De tijd gaat weer zo tergend…
Regi Jake Reese & OT Maandag ochtend in mijn hart De tijd gaat weer zo tergend…
Regi Jake Reese OT Maandag ochtend in mijn hart De tijd gaat weer zo tergend…

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Most interesting comments from YouTube:

Leith aziz

2y↑174

"Noodles, don't noodle"
"I'm not hungry"
"There is no secret ingridient..."
"That's the thing, Shen. Wounds heal"
"I'm your son..."
"The more you take, the less you have"
"I don't gotta turn you into warriors, I gotta turn you into you!"
"You being around doesn't mean less to me, it means more for Po"
"I AM the Dragon Warrior."

So many inspirational quotes from a legendary series.

Nooj

2y↑5

@Mikle this got me looking into the production history of the score

apparently, Zimmer was the one who was first tasked with composing the score early in the development, and after some screenings, Katzenberg brought on Powell to compose additional material

the generally acknowledged dichotomy between the two composers is that Zimmer brought the epic/emotional stuff.... and Powell brought the more bouncy fun comedy material

but yeah, for some reason I've always credited Powell more on Panda

I do love Powell (ever since Face/Off), but it's not as if I'm not a fan of Zimmer's work as well

gnarth d'arkanen

@Hollowshield Your opinion is as valid as anyone else's... I might bring up fine points on which you can re-think it... BUT that's also part of how we all learn...

Our opinions are well founded in experience and "correct" until we find something flawed about them... Then we refine them, understand how we'd arrived to the original and progressed to the newer... and move on.

Movies using great audio is a sneaky part of the technical tools... AND as Cinefix pointed out "sneaks into your brain"... Meaning that when it's truly done well, you (audience) never give it a second thought... It's just "background music"... It's some time later when someone plays "The Empire Theme" on a keyboard and you immediately remember Darth Vader coolly strolling through a fire-fight and know INSTINCTIVELY he's a horrible villain... THEN you start to think about it.

Of course, as the movies get "better" so too, audiences get more difficult to please, we also learn and build on our understanding... SO they have to find new tricks... refine old ones... and around it goes.

Anyway, it's far more effective conversation to share and ask questions or point out some inconsistency than it is to insult and scream or put all caps how "YOU ARE SO WRONG!!! ARG!!!" or something...

I can understand how you arrived at your conclusion in the original post. It's an easy conclusion to make... Nothing worthy of disrespect. I don't doubt many people also feel the same way.

Thank YOU for reading along, and responding... ;o)

Gorbin Bundle

2y↑1

This movie (specifically this scene) actually affected me a lot when I was younger. Having lost both parents, I always found it strange that every Disney character had gone through similar things, I was always like "is this super common? Like, I relate, but do alot of other people?"

But it was always, "You get over it." Or "It gets better." Like in the Lion King, Simba just has a conversation with his cloud dad, beats the bad guy with the awesome song, and is pretty much good. But it was always different in real life, you don't beat a bad guy to end the movie, you just keep going, looping, thinking, crying.

And then I saw Kung Fu Panda 2, and this scene I saw something finally do it in a meaningful way. Po doesn't beat up his pain and his past. He doesn't win, he doesn't change his past, he accepts it. It's what you do next that matters. Beating Shen is secondary to the trauma. It's all wrapped up in this scene.

Seeing a character I loved go through similar things and truly deal with it in a real way really did help me understand my own way forward.

Who knew Jack Black Panda movie would actually change my life? Sick.

All comments from YouTube:

Ka Chow

2y↑3.4K

Po's backstory being that he was sent away from a dying village by his parents and taken in by a very loving father, where he eventually learns that he is special and extremely powerful and the second film being about him learning about his past home in order to reconcile with it, save the world, and become a symbol of hope does in fact make Kung Fu Panda the best theatrical Superman adaptation

Sky The Fox

@Ka Chow ????????????? sorry???? i think? heck I don't even know Moses ties into all of this??? I don't even remember posting this comment????? wtheck is going onnnnn???????

Ka Chow

@Sky The Fox superman is Moses, anyone who says he's Jesus knows nothing about superman lol

Sky The Fox

@Repenexus Moses? Do you mean, do you mean Jesus? Or am I missing something here?

Cass&Crew

2y↑2

@James Mayle we're talking about a fat panda voiced by jack black

Aine

Moses

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Daniel

2y↑2K

The scene with his mom ALWAYS makes me tear up a little, but that has nothing on the scene when he comes home and sees Mr. Ping again. Mr. Ping asks him, "Did you find out who you are?" and Po responds, while getting audibly choked up a little, he says, "I'm your son".
I DIE EVERY TIME. That seen kills me for so many reasons

Stephen Patterson

2y↑1

One of the best voice acting moments ever recorded tbh

E Adlirez

2y↑10

@James Mayle time and place sir time and place, this ain’t the right time or place

James Mayle

2y↑1

Please read at least three books of the Bible. The first book of each testament and one you chose yourself. As you do practice forgiveness. That’s an important key most miss. The Bible is truth. Jesus Christ is lord

Aziz

Have a 1300th like!

E Adlirez

2y↑66

That scene PLUS the scene prior breaks me every time bro, Mr. Ping breaking down in front of the mother because he can't answer her question of "when do you think he'll be back". Mr. Ping DOESN'T know when Po will come back from his mission. He's somewhat aware of how dangerous the mission is, and he doesn't KNOW if Po is even still alive. He was never completely supportive of Po leaving for Gongmen because he doesn't want to lose Po, and as implied by his line "noodles" after Tigress reassures him and later on with the mother and the son, he's been worrying for Po literally the entire time Po is away.

Then the son giggles in happiness, and Mr. Ping sees Po standing at the doorway, holding the radish crates. The pure and utter joy of Mr. Ping running into Po's flab and embracing him-- it breaks me just at the memory of it and typing it out.

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Will Kuehler

2y↑2.7K

Apparently I can’t even hear about this scene without crying.

That one guy

2y↑1

I love how they play Oogway’s ascension as if they’re commanding us to cry immediately

ChaoticZer0

Fucking same bro, literally sobbing rn from the recap of the scene

Dulcet Catharsis

Glad I'm not the only one

James Mayle

Alyssa Pruneau

Same

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ScriptKeeper

2y↑3.5K

My favorite part of this movie was Tigress reaction to Po telling her he’s adopted. You can see her thinking “how did he not know this??? HOW?”

Krzysztof Dąbrowski

2y↑2

It's visible and almost audible that she has to break her brain in half to keep up with the ridiculousness of the situation.

Marco Pohl

2y↑2

@James Mayle Objection: relevance?

James Mayle

vidmuncher

2y↑5

@Hop The Scorbunny or he didn't care enough to pursue it. It wasn't until I got asked for my biological father's name for some government form and completely blanked that I realized that I didn't know

Marco Pohl

2y↑6

And then she accepts it anyway, because that's what Po needs at the time.

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Rayna M

2y↑672

Part of what always gets me in the flashback is when Po’s mom leaves. She doesn’t just run, she does the “here I am, come and get me” arm wave. She actively led them away from her son, knowing full well it would lead to her own death. Gets me every time 🥺🥺🥺

CastBracelet. 240

What gets me is that she looks like she’s about to cry before she leads the wolves away. She knew she’ll die and never see her son again, but she loved him so much she would rather sacrifice her life to save him then the both of them dying

En

2y↑30

tbh I thought that would make it more obvious that she was trying to lead them away from something but yeah

Luthien Tinuviel

2y↑1.5K

This whole scene is incredble, visually, musically, narratively, emotionally...I love KFP 2 so much it hurts

Lionel K.Y

@Kingfunky I'm glad I wasn't the only one who immediately thought Kiara

tanjoy0205

Especially those fight scenes!

SFM FTM

2y↑3

@Kingfunky ayo hololive hell yeah

Kingfunky

2y↑9

RIP Kiara

ztslovebird

2y↑8

Just watching the intro to this video had me sobbing.

Breno Ranyere

2y↑1.5K

Let's all take a moment to think about the fact that someone at some point said "you know this animated movie about a panda trying to learn Kung Fu? Let's make a sequel and go as hard on it as we can just because we can!"

God bless them for that

Angry Wizard

2y↑2

Honestly the whole series ROYALLY fucks, even KFP3 (which I would say is the weakest) kicked major ass

77cicero77

2y↑16

@Corrin Flakes “Our hero from the first film? He survived an implied ethnic cleansing.” They did it well, but damn I can’t imagine the meeting when that was first floated.

peggy liepmann

2y↑17

Dreamworks is very good at looking at first glance like goofy fluff, before they go "You didn't need this right?" before ripping your heart to shreds with feels.

Corrin Flakes

2y↑16

“Let’s give it a theme of overcoming mentally-buried trauma.”

Tnecniw

2y↑4

@ShadowL Drago Yep. Hangover 2 was just hangover 1 again with little to no differences.

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motorcitymangababe

2y↑372

Man, That whole "trying to repress trauma with comedy" vibe po has in this movie really hits

James Mayle

Kre8 or

2y↑964

The warrior of black and white isn't PO, It's Shen who in the end defeats himself. He couldn't see the symbolism in the prophecy and took it at face value , like it's black and white per say. I love this movie, it is one of my all time favorites.

Kevinjorg theguyishere

2y↑8

There's a deleted part that was too dark that highlights why shin turns. He's an albino and his parents fear him. He's literally black and white

Arosukir6

2y↑14

Well, with the eyes on his tail Shen is more "black and white and red all over," but he still mostly meets the criteria.

Pheonixtail Dragonlore

2y↑12

This, and Shen probably didn't look hard at a mirror to see he has black and white feathers.

sand_sand

2y↑3

@Leith aziz first movie talking about the feather that frees tilung

The Master On High

2y↑62

Shen was literally killed by his own weapon.
Which was only in the position because of shens last acts to try and kill PO.
Subtle this is not.
It's an amazing movie.

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Dunston Lion

2y↑762

I will say it's a tad frustrating how Zimmer seems to get all the credit for the KFP soundtracks. While the records are essentially sealed, among a lot of composers and arrangers I know it's kind of clear that Powell does the bulk of the actual work. Not only are there a LOT of musical shorthands and ideas that are drawn from Powells playbook (certain timbres and textures, the way specific instruments are used and orchestrated, rhythmic variety and harmonic complexity that Zimmer just isn't known for using), the only film that doesn't have Powell on it drops a number of already established themes (and in particular the Panda Village theme that is very not subtly just an altered version of How to Train Your Dragon.). And I know I'm being kind of a heel about it but honestly Powell is such a tremendously, brilliantly talented composer with his finger prints ALL OVER this soundtrack and yet every one tends to give most of the credit to Zimmer. I just hate that he's an after thought.

Talon Greenlee

2y↑8

That’s called the auteur myth. It affects ALL kinds of media, really. And let’s be fair, those two dudes are not the only ones who did work on the music for this movie but they get the credit for it.

Savvy Minnow

2y↑12

@Cessnaporsche01 I feel like the Dune soundtrack isn’t the case, I’ve watched videos of all the work he put into that and its unique sound. I love the Dune and Lion King soundtracks especially.

But I also agree that a lot of composers are doing more cool work than Zimmer rn (Ludwig Goransson, Natalie Holt, Powell, etc.). They need more attention!

tananario

2y↑6

This is about ONE scene. One.

Random Commenter

2y↑18

As a massive fan of the score for How to Train Your Dragon (1,2,3) and these films, strongly agree. It's sad that the big name on the score, Zimmer, usually seems to get more attention

Cessnaporsche01

2y↑34

This is true for a ton of Zimmer's stuff. He's become more of a brand name to attract audiences than a composer at this point.

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Vyslanec

2y↑230

Shen is my favourite villain of these movies because he is the one most connected to Po. Tai Long was Shifu's failure being defeated by his greatest success, kai was Oogwai's, but Shen is Po's personal villain and that makes the story hit so much harder

Leith aziz

2y↑174

Grim Sister

2y↑5

“Yesterday is History. Tomorrow is a Mystery. But today is a gift. That’s why we call it the Present.”

Muljinn

2y↑2

I mean, technically, a fading scar is healing.

Gormathius Nightstrider

2y↑11

"Then what do scars do? Fade, I guess?"

Leith aziz

2y↑2

@Shadow Dagon Yes, I screwed that up.

Shadow Dagon

2y↑12

Didn't the line start with po saying "scars heal" then shen immediately correcting him saying "wounds heal"

(I watched that movie as a kid a lot and somehow still remember most of the movie lol)

Cyantiger04

2y↑632

When I first watched this movie this scene was the scene that made me cry. Like full on let out a sob. The music was absolutely BREATHTAKING. It definitely helped to highlight the tragedy of Po’s backstory, but also helped in giving Po’s comeback such a triumphant feel. Definitely one of the best pieces I have ever had the pleasure of listening to.

Rayna M

2y↑7

Dude, this scene made EVERYONE cry.

Net .Tourist

2y↑278

John Powell is incredible. The soundtrack of How to Train Your Dragon added so much to the story, much like the soundtrack did for this scene.

Sorian_Delorean

@Viva Viva great scene too.

Viva Viva

2y↑1

@Sorian_Delorean my personal favorite is Stoick's Ship

Sorian_Delorean

@LLs3 awesome

LLs3

2y↑2

The score to Chicken Run, too! It's one of my favorite scores of all time in both the Humor and the Excitement department. Sometimes when I busk I'll throw in the main theme and see who recognizes it.

Sorian_Delorean

2y↑9

Test flight and the theme "green death" when the green death is shown blew my mind as a kid.

Hannah Brown

2y↑369

I always forget how GOOD the Kung Fu Panda Series is. It really has no RIGHT to be as good as it is, and yet…

James Mayle

Alex Soto

2y↑3

@Hekoruma Art DreamWorks plans to make 6 movies in total, but as of now it has been confirmed that the 4th installment will be released on March 8th, 2024.

Hekoruma Art

2y↑3

@Captain Hadrosaur Wait. There's another movie coming out? I thought it ended after the third one?

ConnorJaneu

2y↑6

@Captain Hadrosaur I am beyond ecstatic, there is hope we’ll get the second trilogy like they’d always said

Captain Hadrosaur

2y↑1

And now we wait for the next one

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Mesia Gamer

2y↑234

Honestly, Po is probably one of the best-animated kung-fu characters as while he grows he doesn't straight up change you can see from beginning to end the Kung Fu geek fully realising what he can really do. Especially in that moment understanding that trauma has stuck with him. His life has also been filed with so much joy thanks to shiu the furious five and most importantly his father Ping who chose to raise him to be a kind-hearted panda.

Jackson Quinn

2y↑352

I love the second one the most. It always amazes me how underrated it is.

Yvain Callipso

2y↑4

@Gryphon not to mention that Tai Lung is really Shifu's villain, who happens to fight Po. Shen is Po's actual villain

Gryphon

2y↑7

I've seen people say the first is the best because they liked the action in the first the most. That's fine but in my opinion the second is the best since the action is just as good, and it has better character work, which I usually praise characters over action.

Yvain Callipso

2y↑6

Second is the best, first is amazing, third was not terrible but disappointing

moread AWM

2y↑2

Underrated?? A lot of people say it's the best one out of the trilogy

Nathan Hayes

2y↑2

Yeah, and those who did say its too dark, um idk how to say this but there are plenty of dark kid movies out there, and this is fairly light in comparison

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Connor notyerbidness

2y↑131

I personally had a "ptsd flashback" for the first time not long ago (while watching The Batman) and it was honestly Just like this. You see something in front of you then suddenly its back to That moment and then your back to reality and it repeats. Its really jarring and disturbing to experience the first time

Lrbearclaw

2y↑10

@Connor notyerbidness The good thing about that though is that now you are aware about the trauma lingering, you can get help working through it.

And I hope that you can.

Connor notyerbidness

2y↑11

@bongo ya was a…ya experience. Honestly over something for which i thought id dealt with Years ago.

Specifically it was the electrical cable whipping around that did it. Long story short, school field trip, 4th grade, fire, evac, building on fire, power lines, MOUNTAIN ON FIRE, freezing cold night waiting for fire fighters
Wasnt til that thing was whipping around on screen and i heard that sound again did it really occur to me that maybe i Hadnt dealt with those feelings as well as i thought so….ya. Intense.

bongo

2y↑11

I understand how you feel, it's overwhelming to think about and experience. I honestly hope you're doing OK. The Batman is a very intense film, but good nonetheless. I went into the theater with my weighted blanket since I knew it would be an overwhelming experience.

Amazing movie! Yet I'm sorry it triggered a flashback.

Rachel Thornton

2y↑118

I love how the choir comes in as Po remembers the good times, because as he's remembering his achievements, he is, for the first time, remembering the other people in his life. Up until this point, there's a heavy use of flutes, emphasizing how alone and vulnerable Po was when his mother left him. But the voices of the collective choir comes in as he remembers the Furious Five, Shifu, Oogway, Tai Lung and, most importantly, his father. These are the voices that have shaped who he is, for better or worse, and they are just as important to his journey as Po himself.

Emanuel Ramiro Blanco

2y↑2

I'm sorry, who said I could cry with this comment???

James Mayle

N0cky Star

2y↑155

I don't think you mentioned this, I might be wrong, but I like how there was a false start scene with Po trying to do inner peace on the boat. It takes note on how Po is not "getting" how inner peace is not just technique copied, but a state of mind. Which is a subtle nod at the first movie on how he mastered the Wushu finger hold with him just explaining that he "figured it out" and how he can't use that same quick learning skill this time around. Especially how he completely forgets/disregards that the water droplet was a necessary component to understanding inner peace. He even considers it a nuisance.
It's only when he doesn't force his muscle memory to do the heavy lifting and has his mind and soul share the weight does he finally master inner peace.

CroobieLetter

2y↑31

The scène on the boat also mirrors Shifu's scène in the first movie (right before the goose informs him Tai Lung escaped). Oogway explained to Shifu that inner peace is impossible if your mind is like troubled water, you have to let it settle down. Po's mind is troubled, and like Shifu, it's not until he stops and faces the darkest moments of his life that he can truly let his mind settle down. In many ways, Po's arc follows the same beats as Shifu in the first movie.

Eon Aruim

2y↑203

I'M SO GLAD RED FINALLY GETS TO TALK ABOUT KFP 2 MORE IN DEPTH! Wouldn't mind a Moviestruck on it either, if it's not already in the works lol
2's soundtrack is definitely the one I listen to the most, and ESPECIALLY the Fireworks Factory scene, just before Po Finds the Truth, just because this one is often wayyyy too sad for my usual mood lol
The scene breakdown was really fascinating because I have listened to the track a lot, but never all that critically.
I would honestly love more breakdowns of the other tracks too, just for fun.
The POTC soundtrack was my introduction to Hans Zimmer and tbh I don't think that franchise would have been HALF as popular without his work. idk how fun it would be to analyze but I'm going to go look through the playlist now to see if someone else did it
Edit to add that I love the detail in the flashback of Po's dad hitting the Boss Wolf with a rake and that's how Boss Wolf gets his eye scar 👍

an unbeatable yoshi

2y↑4

Zimmer DEFINED what a pirate music would sound like, courage, bravado and very little righteousness but still enough to be there

Nooj

2y↑19

it’s so weird to have Powell referred to as ‘the other composer,’ when I’ve always considered Powell to be the voice of the Kung Fu Panda movies (even when only zimmer was credited with the third movie, the weakest one)

also weird to describe him as if he’s primarily a composer of animated fare

Nooj

2y↑5

Mikle

Yeah lol- I actually can’t hear any of Zimmer’s influence in this track at all lol

Unholy Doll

2y↑97

Seeing Kung Fu Panda 2 in theatres when I was young was probably the best moviegoing experience I've ever had, so glad you guys are covering it

James Mayle

Daniel Skoretz

2y↑29

Oogway’s theme being played when the flashback turn from 2D to 3D also symbolizes Po’s ascension into accepting his past. Which is also why the animation shifts, it shows the memories becoming real. Especially when you consider the films have regularly showed memories in 3D and stories, such as prolongs in 2D.

Craytherlaygaming

2y↑56

John powell and Dreamworks always have like, iconic music defining scenes. I mean How to Train your Dragon's first movie is just full of them. Like moment after moment of musical scenes, but my fave from that has got to be 'Testdrive'

sam will

2y↑31

People think you're joking when you say shit like this. but Prince of Egypt, How to Train Your Dragon, Kung Fu panda, even the first couple of Shreks proves that Dreamworks CAN do good work when they want to. They can do stunning, beautiful, hilarious, heartfelt movies with amazing action and headpounding soundtracks.
It just sucks that the system has disincentivized them from trying that hard.

CalderaMan

2y↑55

Having recently lost my own mom, this scene hits so much harder for me, making me appreciate it all the more.

mlpdisneylover

2y↑1

I’m sorry for your loss

Ebony Voigt

2y↑15

A thing that I noticed and liked when you were bringing up Shifu’s relationship to Po and how it started in the first movie and progressed in the second is that he isn’t present for most of the movie until the finale, and even at that point he is astounded by Po redirecting the cannonballs and doing something even he couldn’t teach him. The main theme of the movie when it comes to Po is HIM taking control of his past and marrying that to his present, and there’s only so much a mentor figure can help you do that, even if they are a key figure in your life now

Mr. McNair

2y↑60

You guys always put 100% into your work! As a music teacher, this is just further evidence that A) lack of a formal educational background in a subject does not inherently diminish one's ability to speak about a subject and B) how accessible and amazing music can be for the themes to come through! Always loved your stuff but definitely delighted by this!

Voc

2y↑306

Oh, Mr.Hans huh? Yep, this will be good.
So many good things in this vid: You two, Zimmer, Kung Fu Panda and thematic ost 👌👌👌

Cibershadow2

2y↑2

Please don't call him Mr. Hans 😂

jinxcat90

2y↑65

I love how you broke down each change of music IN the movie scene and then went freeform after. This took me back to road trips with my mom, talking about how melodies are woven together, which instruments are often used for what emotions and motifs. I can't play an instrument, or even keep a decent beat, to save my life, but I credit that with sparking my love of soundtracks and music composition. Thank you for the pleasant memories.

justanotherchannelonyoutube

2y↑38

If I had a nickel for ever YouTuber I liked analyzing Kung Fu Panda in the same week, I’d have 2 nickels, which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice

H R

@James Mayle .wow you have opened my eyes. where were you all this time while I was aimlessly floating through this mortal plane? I will definitely do everything you said. wow

Tjark Schweizer

@James Mayle Please read at least three books of the Quran. As you do practice forgiveness. That's an important key most miss. The Quran is truth. Allah is lord.

James Mayle

Octa9on

2y↑4

You know, I'm starting to see why you haven't become ruler in your dimension.

justanotherchannelonyoutube

@Thamilini Selladurai Nostalgia Critic

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Hollowshield

2y↑83

as a musician, I am so glad to see this being covered by you guys. music tends to be overlooked when it comes to shows or movies. It only started being seen as important relatively recently. before, a lot of works either had the same 3 crappy songs that don't flow what's happening on screen at all, completely absent, (I know it shows how its always summer, but those cicadas in NGE get really annoying) or they just straight up inserted classical music, regardless of context. If you look at Demon Slayer, Pirates of the Caribbean, How to Train your Dragon, or Kung-fu Panda, more recent works, you'll see how music is much more integrated into whats on screen. Making the story rather than just providing background music, important scenes have original and iconic music. it used to just be reserved for musicals and operas.

gnarth d'arkanen

Hollowshield

2y↑1

Good point. I should try to learn more about this stuff, like you, but I’m glad my opinion seemed to be respected :)

gnarth d'arkanen

@Hollowshield Well, we are certainly getting better at it, but that just comes part and parcel with progress. We've only really had moving pictures for about a century... AND they didn't start out with independent soundtracks, so we've had to get better and better with everything involved in "Visual Storytelling" along the way... From practical effects to Special effects, to CGI... animation moved from hand painted frame by frame through Disney's multi-plex camera setups... to modern animation software like Blender or Krita... and algorythmic tweening frames from cinematic to finished product...

Sound is important enough that two different theaters can open with the same movie, one with sh*t graphics and great sound, and the other with great graphics and sh*t sound... AND believe it or not, the one with great SOUND will outsell tickets consistently...

We're bound to get better, especially with business on the line.

In any case, you're not completely "wrong" per se... I think it's easier to slip into the pitfalls of just not remembering when it was done well enough for you not to notice at the moment... Hell, I only know about it because of channels like Cinafix on YT, myself... Otherwise, I'd probably have never thought much of it... even as a part time Voice Actor... haha ;o)

Tortferngatr

@Leith aziz I’ve noticed that games have had a bit of a head start in that regard, though they’re technically limited in terms of how diegetic the music can get outside of cutscenes—and even then we have examples like Mario music ticking faster if you’re low on time, Majora’s Mask having different versions of the main town theme depending on how close the moon is, important phased bosses having different music sometimes, and Sonic’s drowning theme.

But yeah, I’m glad that scores/soundtracks are becoming more important in other things as well.

Hollowshield

2y↑2

@gnarth d'arkanen you're right, it is unfair for me to say all or even most of them were like that. But I do think music has gone hand in hand with whats happening on screen a lot more recently, and that more and more studios are composing their own music for their scenes. But you're right. A lot of iconic movies have iconic soundtracks, no matter the era.

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bunny butt

2y↑35

I've been a fan of Hans Zimmer ever since his work in Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron. It remains as one of my personal favorite orchestral works that he did, and Kung Fu Panda 2 remains my absolute favorite in the series due to the soundtrack as well as the story. He's such a fantastic composer!

James Mayle

Cortney Lane

2y↑1

Hans Zimmer was part of my childhood and I didn't even know it. I miss Spirit 😭

bunny butt

2y↑1

@Michelle Johnson Yeah, along side Bryan Adams! You can find Hans Zimmer's soundtracks he did for Spirit on Youtube. 😊

Michelle Johnson

2y↑1

He did work on Spirit???? I was obsessed with that movie as a kid.... a lot of things suddenly make a lot of sense lol

Jim Mulaney

2y↑91

Is there an osp video on a non-friday day! Is it christmas already?

BE STILL MY HEART

Tabitha Alphess

2y↑3

Right? I had to do a double take on my calendar when I saw the upload

McHaven07

2y↑14

god, i can't watch that scene with po's mother being so brave without tears streaming from my eyes. hits too fucking hard.

JustSomePenguin

2y↑5

Kung-Fu panda is probably one of the craziest things in cinema existence. From the outside it looks like another illumination esq. kid’s movie.
But after actually watching the thing you realize it’s one of the most heartfelt and well written movies ever.

Yvain Callipso

2y↑22

I fully agree that Kung Fu Panda 2 is a cinematic masterpiece. The soundtrack in this one is is absolutely amazing

XanderVJ

2y↑124

"Kung Fu Panda 2": One of the best sequels of all time, and the absolute best of the "Kung Fu Panda" trilogy.

Fight me.

Spoiler alert:

You'll lose before the fight even begins.

Cortney Lane

@Big Fat lol same broski

Big Fat

1y↑1

Honestly i have to say my favorite one is when he did kung fu

Thomas Mitchell

2y↑1

@ShadowL Drago we fight the naysayers, and with honor!

Cortney Lane

2y↑1

@Your Local Bartender I suppose, it's plausible. But I think the person might've just been doing a play on marijuana or maybe couldn't spell? Regardless they were saying I was high for what I said lol

Your Local Bartender

2y↑1

@Cortney Lane I guess if you crushed it into powder you could snort it.

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GooTheMighty

2y↑7

That “ticking” track in Interstellar blew my mind when I first watched that movie. It was VERY effective and putting me on the edge of my seat.
Also Kung-fu Panda 2 is a masterpiece.

LegendWeaver25

2y↑5

Po’s story in this movie is like when you join a D&D campaign with a joke character and an open backstory, and then your DM just decimates you with trauma, growth, and the most tragic backstory they could think of

LegalAssassin

1y↑1

“My character is a monk who’s always wanted to be a monk and he loves food so he’s pretty fat. He also loves all things kung fu. Oh, and he’s a panda who was raised by a goose.”
“Interesting…”
“What are you writing?”
“Oh, just notes. Now here’s how you meet the rest of the party…”

Gutslove

2y↑13

I love this scene so much, and I couldn't help but tear up as you were describing the scene at the beginning. The musical track and scene always makes me cry similarly to Oogway Ascends, another beautiful scene. Thank you for tackling this Musical Scene expertly, as always.

Ringlord

2y↑4

Oh man, Po's mom comforting him with tears in her eyes before heroically sacrificing herself. I literally cannot stop myself from crying every time I see that.

Passed the vibe-check

2y↑17

Ah yes. Hans Zimmer, Indigo's only acceptable movie musician.

Perseus17

2y↑41

Always love these analytical breakdowns, great stuff!

Alyssa Baney

2y↑5

Baby Po's little "Ma" is what always breaks me in this scene.

Justin Sinke

2y↑38

The talk about how the horns of the hero theme are used in a more low and subdued way to symbolize that there's more to heroism than bombastic action combat reminded me of a poignant scene from a cartoon I can't even remember the name of anymore. The protagonists have to pass three tests (combat, knowledge, and nobility I believe), one for each of them, from a magical guardian to enter an ancient city, and one of the three, a reformed villain, is forced by one of the other protagonists to undertake the Test of Nobility. She steps forward glumly, and when asked why by the guardian, the woman explains that she's not noble because she's done terrible things like betraying her friends, among other examples to explain that she's a bad person. The guardian responds with a smile, telling her that nobility is more than about bloodlines and similar things, but also the ability to tell the truth, even if it hurts, and informs her that she's passed. Essentially, the hero who forced it felt they knew the former villain well enough to understand both the test and how she would respond to it, which only helped to highlight the negativity the former villain was carrying and face it. To me, it was a very powerful character moment in what was otherwise a kid's cartoon.

James Mayle

2y↑1

Justin Sinke

2y↑4

@Ben Rychlik Ah yes, thank you, that was indeed the show.

Ben Rychlik

2y↑8

Huntik
You’re talking about the tests from season 2 of Huntik (or, maybe, you happened to describe it coincidentally$
It’s on youtube

Nithun Sridhar

2y↑7

The Kung fu panda trilogy is a surprisingly great and succinct little series. Everything flows nicely, the themes remain constant but just evolve, and the main character actually grows over each movie

rashkavar

2y↑5

The percussion being the ticking of a clock is an interesting take; personally I usually interpret it as a heartbeat. Pounding and loud in moments of tension, soft and low in moments of calm. I've not seen the movie yet myself (though I'm increasingly convinced that these are movies I need to watch), but at a guess I'd say the percussion suddenly stops when Po's mother dies.

Anonymous Fellow

2y↑15

If y’all make a proper series of this, you should totally bring in 8bitmusictheory

Leonardo Rivelo Rivelo

2y↑9

I like How this track both showcases a tragic event and its ramifications while also slowly but surely giving Hope to both the audience and Po himself

SteamGeek01

2y↑4

4:00
This part of that sequence always grabbed my attention the best whenever I watched the film, the sound effect of the water bead travelling perfectly meshed with the music sent shivers down my spine the 1st time and I have never forgotten that rush I had in the cinema,

Extra History

2y↑7

Man, this is the third Kung Fu Panda video I've seen this month. Schaffrillas, the Nostalgia Critic and now Sarcastic Production have all been singing their praises to one of the best film trilogy ever made, and I'm here for it!

Kag 257

2y↑3

Yes! I'm so happy you covered this! KFP2 is one of my favourite movies of all time and it has no reason being as good as it is! The soundtrack in this franchise is absolutely superb every time, just listening to it throws u right back into every scene. And this one just hits all the right notes (literally), it starts so peaceful only to punch u in the face with that jump scare, goes to become more tragic but lifts back up to one of the most triumphant tracks in the series. And all while going back and forth between the past and present and using leitmotifs seen throughout both movies and.... basically it's hella good!

maninanikittycat

2y↑7

Kung Fu Panda hits different now. Loved the films as a kid but now that I’m older it just hits different in a good way

Basement Dweller Cosplay

2y↑5

I saw Kung fu panda 2 as a kid and man it made me cry out of sadness and beauty for how well it was done. I don't remember being hit by a film like that as kid since Prince of Egypt

Gaasuba Meskhenet

2y↑6

it always surprises me that the quality of KungFu Panda releases never seem to decline. Even the little side extras aren't bad.
(i cry at Tigress's back story every time because i'm a sap)

Nathan L

2y↑5

The animation in all three of the movies is incredible, but I never really realized how much better they got with each entry until this scene’s montage showed the clips from the first movie. It almost took me out of the scene, you could watch the first movie on its own and have zero problems with the animation, but seeing it right after watching the second movie shows you just how much better it’s gotten.

Skullkidtiger

2y↑3

This moment is so powerful. The raw emotion and even his break when he is told to let it happen. His memory just crushes him. But then, that magnificent and quick montage of who he is up to that point is the part that gets me. His love, admiration, his peers, friends, and even father all shaped who he is now. And not even Shen can take that from Po.

Samuel Higgins

2y↑4

It's impressive how well Red's breakdown of the scene synchs to the actual track she's talking about

ButterDragonFly

2y↑6

King Fu Panda 2 is one of those movies that I always love to come back to and always brings me to tears. When Po learns of his past and what happened to his mother and how his story has progressed from that horrible beginning, I just fall apart every time.

Kung Fu Panda 2 really is one of the best movies ever put to animation and the best of its trilogy by far

AviRox1154

2y↑5

I'm so glad you're talking about Hans Zimmer and this scene! I played violin from kindergarten through high school, and he's probably my favorite film composer.

I love John Williams, but sometimes he relies over much on horns and percussion, while Zimmer actually lets quieter instruments like strings and winds get their big moments. "Run Free" from Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron is my favorite piece of his.

Tony Licavoli

2y↑4

I know it's not nearly as intense or critical to the story, but the cart chase scene has a phenomenal score as well

A Random Weeb

2y↑11

Kung Fu Panda 2 is already one of my favorite movies of all time. You both just gave me another reason to love it even more.

James Mayle

Nathan Hayes

2y↑8

This was my favorite scene growing up in Kung Fu Panda 2. Surprisingly Oogway Ascends is probably my other favorite scene

Monkeyking

2y↑3

not as ground breaking as the rest of the movie, the scene where Ping tells Po he is adopted is my favorite

Just Some Jersey Devil With Internet Access

2y↑5

10:20 I can confirm, traumatic flashbacks don't care where you are, they'll overtake your senses all the same.

This. This is why you should always be kind to people. Because moments of such cruelty can cause suffering you do not truly begin to understand. not untill you feel it yourself, or know someone closely who did.

Just Some Jersey Devil With Internet Access

2y↑1

@James Mayle It takes a LOT for a person to earn my trust, much less my respect, much less my worship. As such, I am not religious; I believe god exists, and smaller gods are aspects thereof, however, I will not worship a being I do not even know.
This is my personal choice.

However, I was raised christian, and I know that the bible holds GREAT quantities of wisdom. Even my childhood favorite, Jonah and the whale, has a great moral in its followup; Jonah and the Palm Tree, which shows the futility of hatred or bigotry; all things will rot away, but even if you don't believe in saving immortal souls, these beings you hate are just as sentient as you, so stop being so petty about meaningless strife and help them, because their sentience will only be in this plane of existence ONCE.

My point is, while I am not religious by personal choice, I am aware of the great wisdom held in the bible, so Yes, I've been meaning to read it end to end sometime.

James Mayle

TheDoveAbove

2y↑5

Kung Fu Panda 2 is one of my favorite animated movies ever. This scene and the final battle scene stuck with me for very long.

James Mayle

Cerulean Walker

2y↑4

Mr Ping is MVP. He tells Po that there is no secret ingredient. He took Po in and loves him as his own. He has enough humility to let Po's biological dad back into his life. He is always supportive and best Goose dad.

Cheyenne Oliver

2y↑6

18:41 Hearing that is kinda funny to me since I've been playing Xenoblade 3 for the past few weeks, where the flute takes center stage in a lot of the soundtracks (though admittedly, there may have been a lot of sound mixing and recording techniques that I don't know of to make it that way)

CaitlynsPersonalHell

2y↑12

the kung fu panda series is so good and underrated. and this scene in kung fu panda 2 always makes me cry, literally started tearing up as soon as the final scene with Po's mom showed up

CaitlynsPersonalHell

@James Mayle what the actual hell are you talking about???

James Mayle

Phoenix_King_Theo

2y↑14

Legit, the Kung Fu Panda score across all three movies are some of the best scores. I can’t wait for the fourth movie and hope Zimmer comes back for it

Phoenix_King_Theo

@James Mayle yeah I’ve read the bible and not a fan. Not sure why you’re commenting on this Kung Fu Panda video about the bible

James Mayle

AShinyRavenHoard

2y↑6

Oh hell yes, one of my favorite YouTubers talking about one of my favorite ost pieces

James Mayle

La Sociedad de los 7 Bushidos

2y↑3

Im so happy seeing red hyperfixate into Sideways and the musical analysis side of video essays

CarylRedlace

2y↑2

I gotta say the second kung fu panda movie REALLY amped everything up to freaking twenty, from being a funny kids movie with spots of brilliant wrtiting to a Brilliant movie with shades of being a kids movie. It's dark at times, there are high stakes and absolutely NO shame or remorse at killing important characters, being Master Rhino or Po's Mother.
A genuine Masterpiece through and through.

Rarelyused3

2y↑4

fun fact, kung fu panda 3's "po belongs", which is also kai's (the main villain) theme, was inspired by imagine dragons' "i'm so sorry". More accurately, the start is focused on the line "no son of a stepfather", which pulls a parallel to the secondary theme of the film, of Li (po's biological father) and Mr. Ping (po's adoptive father) feuding over who is po's actual father.

food for thought and a cool fact

strAngely

2y↑3

When Red kept plugging Sideways, it made my heart swell. They have a hiatus rn and I'm still missing their videos

JBPeony

2y↑2

Kung Fu Panda was so monumental to my developement, its kind of embarassing to admit. Like to see a protagonist who's fat, the narrative address it and solidly tell the audience that it doesnt detract from his coolness. Is what i needed to see as a kid. The whole trilogy is so special to me, just hearing someone describe the scenes still make me well up with emotion.

Jay

2y↑6

I don't consume a lot of movies/TV, but I always enjoy hearing yall analyze why you enjoy parts of them so much. Thanks for the upload!

Tim Guillaume

2y↑5

Please do this more often! I'm a composer and it's great to hear you guys talk about this stuff!

N L

2y↑2

Geez. Even years later, I still shed a year when seeing Po's mother.

darthwikkie

2y↑2

An excellent choice and an amazing explanation. As soon as you mentioned the Dies Irae I immediately thought of Sideways, so you reference was perfectly timed. I miss his videos, particularly the ones on leitmotifs like in HTTYD.

Jay Bonn

2y↑5

Music is so powerful I'm literally crying and it's not even playing. This is why can't discount music. If writing is the backbone, music are the lungs.

Starshiny33

2y↑1

I just watched this movie with my Dad. It was an amazing experience. I am so happy that you are talking about it. I don't need a lecture by music geniuses. I honestly like just hearing you chat and draw on your knowledge. Good video.

Firefight

2y↑10

I’d love a full series of this! Music is my life!

Gorbin Bundle

2y↑1

Michael Young

2y↑2

I keep forgetting that ZImmer was a part of the music for KFP, cause Powell just has a much stronger taste in all of the KFP trilogy. Personally, I prefer Zen Ball Master because it has four “acts”, one being almost military march like, and being over seven minutes long would work great as a Marching Band show in and of its self (Exposing my band nerdery, I played Mellophone on the field, and French Horn in the concert hall). Still, KFP has a great soundtrack and is a perfect trilogy

Maxisamo1

2y↑2

This scene alone is a 10/10, the movie is still great but wow I'm literally saying to myself "I can't believe I'm crying at this DreamWorks movie about Jack Black playing a Panda who punches people"

Rixec2

2y↑1

The Kung Fu Panda movies are just awesome in everything - action, animation, comedy, music, heart, awesomeness - and I have loved it all since the start. These movies have their fun, but they never talk down to us or serve as a money-making distraction. These are genuinely amazing movies and I could watch them again and again for the rest of my life.

Thomas Mitchell

2y↑3

Yes! I love this movie. Everything, from the story, the animation, the actors, and even the Title, with its sharp metallic coloring and edges, making the title feel like a weapon. The characters and music are the best part. The hero is one of the best people, and the villain is far and away the worst. All the music is amazing, but next to Oogway ascends this is one of the best in the trilogy. Kai’s theme from the 3rd one is best no doubt no lie.

If you want, you can fire me. But you will lose.

James Mayle

Stefan Sauvageon / What-a-Twist

2y↑5

One of the only character musical themes I ever noticed while watching and got hyped for was Kai's theme from Kung Fu Panda 3, seriously go listen to it

Matt Smeda

2y↑1

As a composer, I think you guys did a really solid job of explaining how the music and motifs used in this scene really help to express Po's realisation. It always reminds me a little bit of what Daniel Pemberton did in the climax of Into the Spider-Verse. But yea, Kung Fu Panda absolutely slaps and is a national treasure!

heath zzz

2y↑3

i’m freaking out rn bro.

i watched a single video of yours yesterday and a couple days before that i LITERALLY SPENT A COUPLE OF HOURS LISTENING TO “PO FINDS THE TRUTH” as it’s such a musical masterpiece. what a spectacular and incredibly lucky coincidence. thank you for making this

Alanna Scrivens

2y↑9

This is one of my favorite scores and possibly my favorite movie trilogy. So beautiful and insightful

Al Josef

2y↑1

This channel makes me miss my literature classes in under grad with its enjoyable analysis of its subject keep up the great work you both obviously enjoy what you do.

K. Nash

2y↑1

I kid you not this is one of my all time favorite scores, when I saw the thumbnail I had to immediately click. It’s so emotional and tells a story with words, I love it! Have you ever heard of Sinbad? It’s another dreamworks film, and the score is incredible

Kayjeth

The HTTYD score is absolutely incredible! Been one of my favorite scores ever. A good example of the "you can remember what happened just by the music". Love you two spreading attention to Kung Fu Panda and HTTYD!

Uria

2y↑24

Who hopes OSP plays Monster Prom in the future so we can find out how quickly Red gets passionate over the werewolf, how quickly Indigo agrees with the vampire’s and Medusa’s hot takes on the adult film and animation industry, and Blue’s reaction to the amount of absurd shenanigans

Daniel McLellan

Oh my gods, yes!

TacComControl

2y↑2

If musical cues are your jam in terms of storytelling, I would wholeheartedly recommend watching through MS Gundam Unicorn. Gundam has always had.... a rough time with its soundtracks, but Unicorn brought in composer and all around badass Hiroyuki Sawano, a guy who has absolutely refined the soundtrack formula to a ridiculous science, breaking from the standard western orchestral movements of even the most bombastic percussion being extremely subdued by comparison and instead choosing to bring in heavy, almost Violent taiko ensembles in his work at the Full range of volumes, to say nothing of his ability to let the horns do what they're good at, which is, elevating a scene's mood in an empowering way. I hesitate to use the term Hype, but yeah. Sawano is also not terribly afraid of the use of synthesizers, much like Zimmer(go look up the Crimson Tide soundtrack for a good example of this), treating it as just another instrument to be used in the right place to do the right job. For Sawano, and for a LOT of good composers, Every instrument is important, so long as it suits the composition.

If you want a good example of musical storytelling in Sawano's work, and don't want to sit down to the entire series(or even the heavily trimmed down OVA version), I encourage you to look up the Stark Jegan fight from Unicorn. It's all over youtube, and as one might expect, if you can find it subtitled and not dubbed, all the better, but between the ridiculous and excellent sound design of the series as a whole, and the soundtrack, it turns what is essentially a boilerplate(albeit excellently choreographed, they pulled out all the stops for this one) fight between machines in space into what is essentially a horror film told from the perspective of the monster.

As another example, also from Unicorn, look up the scene of Unicorn's first launch. Our main character is... Well, he's broken. Just got a bombshell of information dropped on him, just got a bunch of his early life's memories dumped in his lap, and the one person he can ask about any of it is now, right in front of him, Extremely dead. The scene is kind of amazing in the way it plays out, the cockpit monitors go dark(I'm assuming a sleep mode of some kind) right alongside the MC's slip into full on despair, and we're left with him in that darkness and in that silence. And then the horns kick in, gently at first but only for a moment as the percussion hits hard, a steady but forceful beat getting our attention as the words he'd long forgotten start playing out in his mind, a distant memory of what he lost and what it means to be who he is and what he now has in his hands, so to speak. The horns pick up more and more, and layers get added to the percussion as the MC accepts what is basically the Call to Action in this case, forcing him to leave behind his ordinary world and accept the role that has been thrust upon him, and in one final vocal cue of speaking directly to his past, "I'm sorry, but I'm leaving", the whole ensemble, chorus and all, kicks in in full as this silent machine bursts to life. We're brought to the perspective of another character on the other side of things(The same one from the first scene I recommended), with the music giving us a drop in action, signaling a potential shift in the balance of what's happening, where our main character might be up against something they can't actually handle, but then our MC basically bodies them full-tilt through a wall with an echoing scream of what basically translates to "GTFO". Of course, on the other side of the wall is Space, and as we've already established that's.... not where fights end, that's usually where fights Happen, so as the antagonist regains control of what's happening, they see the powerful but wildly inexperienced MC failing to properly control themselves in the zero gravity environment as the horns go staccato for a brief couple of bars, combined with a stepping eighth rhythm behind it giving a moment of discomfort to the situation, like "Oh, this... could actually go very, very poorly", and as we see our antagonist gain situational confidence and our MC basically panic, the horns go all sorts of discordant and messy, keeping their rhythm but being harder to follow, it does an excellent job of putting the audience in to a feeling of "Oh no. OH NO". And then the horns get a hold of themselves, and we get our resurging choral theme as the Unicorn machine shows what it's REALLY built to do, and as it takes on its true form, we get to watch our antagonist, in what I feel like is a first in animation, at least in my experience, go through the facial expressions of anger to confusion to OH SHIT in the course of about two seconds. And as the last few bars of the track play out, silencing the chorus and the horns and subduing out in a perfect fall to the action of the theme, we don't see our MC's reaction anymore, nor the antagonist, but everyone else, because this new machine, the White Devil, came basically out of nowhere, and like the spectre of the wars its predecessors once represented, its presence lets Everyone know, from the captain of the ship nearby, to civilians being rescued, to the mysterious Princess Mineva(Long story) that this just went from a border skirmish to a full blown conflict. The music, like the scene, is triumphant in how it plays, but it doesn't resolve with the situation Ending on a high note, it resolves with the fact that this isn't just the MC being brought out of the ordinary world, it's Everyone. And if you've watched the series a few times, the looks people give start to take on new meaning, but that's outside of the scope of this.

To step outside of my "Tac talks about Gundam too much" normal, he also did the soundtrack to Kill La Kill, a silly series about nudity and the rejection of social norms of conservativism versus angry alien mind-control clothing, a concept that basically demands to be seen as ridiculous and silly, and yet, Sawano did NOT hold back. Go play "Before my body is dry" and tell me you aren't hyped up to do whatever it is you were planning to do that day.

anastasia

2y↑1

It has now been proven that OSP can read minds. I was just thinking about this track the other day. I haven't watched KP2 in forever, but as a kid the scene with Po's mother running away from the wolfes always made me tear up a little. I especially adored the intense soundtrack there.

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