With Faith Or Flames formed in December 2004, released their debut full-length (engineered by Jamie King: BTBAM, Glass Casket, TTIOTD) in December 2005 and began touring nationally in January 2006. Mike Milliken (guitar) was added to the equation in August of 2006 after the departure of Dustin Lane. Mike quit in April 2007 and Trevor DeGaine joined shortly thereafter. With Faith Or Flames released another full length, A Conquest Triumphant, on Stand and Deliver Records in early 2008.
After touring the summer with Carnifex and Killwhitneydead, bassist Eric Collins and guitarist Trevor DeGaine left the band. The current members of the band are Ian Sharp on vocals, Eric Weatherford on guitar, and Andrew Core on drums. While searching for new members, Andrew and Ian became involved with Destroy Destroy Destroy, with Eric contributing to their new album and Ian performing vocals with them on tour. They still plan to continue With Faith or Flames, however.
This Love Burns Black
With Faith Or Flames Lyrics
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and before too long I'm choking on the floor
the reflection of your eyes still lingers deep within my own
along with memories that never seemed to be
my heart, it does not exist in this place
your heart, it does not exist in this place
serenaded by destiny
the dream has died, my will awakened
to find myself alone again
the fantasy is over but how will I see the world
now that I feel I know you more than yesterday
but this bliss is purely fiction, only real while I'm at rest
and you'll know nothing of the times we've had
my heart, it does not exist in this place
your heart, it does not exist in this place
a false embrace to please the masses
serenaded by destiny
the dream has died, my will awakened
to find myself alone again
for these dreams, they felt like sugar
and the poison washed away
so here I find myself just as I was before
but the reflection of your eyes
still lingers deep within my own
The lyrics of This Love Burns Black by With Faith or Flames convey the idea of a relationship that was built on a fantasy and came to an end. The beginning of the song seems to describe the sweet dreams of being with someone, a dream that is just as sweet as sugar. But the sweetness of these dreams is fleeting as the "poison still sets in" and "before too long" the singer finds themselves choking on the floor. The person they were with lingers in their thoughts, but the memories shared with that person "never seemed to be".
There is a sense of disassociation in the lyrics that hints at a larger theme of alienation. The singer feels alone, questioning whether their heart or the heart of the other person ever existed in the first place. They describe the embrace they shared as "false", put on to please others, which emphasizes the idea of a relationship built on a fantasy rather than reality. The chorus emphasizes the singer's loneliness and loss of purpose, as they find themselves alone "again".
In the second verse, the singer comes to terms with the fantasy being over, but wonders how they will see the world now that they know their partner "more than yesterday". There is a hint of sadness in the lyric "you'll know nothing of the times we've had" indicating that the singer has had to come to terms with their loss without any closure or shared understanding with their loved one. The repetition of "my heart, it does not exist in this place, your heart, it does not exist in this place" creates a feeling of distance and disconnect, reinforcing the loneliness described earlier in the song.
Line by Line Meaning
these dreams they taste like sugar but the poison still sets in
Despite the sweetness of these dreams, they still have a toxic effect on me.
and before too long I'm choking on the floor
The negative effects of these dreams quickly take hold and overwhelm me.
the reflection of your eyes still lingers deep within my own
I can't seem to shake the memory of your eyes and their impact on me.
along with memories that never seemed to be
There are memories that haunt me that I can't explain or understand.
my heart, it does not exist in this place
My heart is not present in this moment or situation.
your heart, it does not exist in this place
Your heart is similarly absent or removed from this situation.
a false embrace to please the masses
An insincere show of affection or connection to please others.
serenaded by destiny
Feeling as though fate or destiny is playing a role in the situation.
the dream has died, my will awakened
The dream or fantasy I had is gone, and I'm aware of reality again.
to find myself alone again
Feeling isolated or solitary in the aftermath of the dream's end.
for these dreams, they felt like sugar
The dreams felt pleasurable, like a treat or indulgence.
and the poison washed away
However, the negative aspects of the dream have dissipated.
so here I find myself just as I was before
I am back to my original state or feeling before the dream occurred.
but the reflection of your eyes still lingers deep within my own
Despite everything, I still can't let go of the impact you had on me.
Contributed by Olivia O. Suggest a correction in the comments below.
El Ganso Mayor
awesome they are back