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Most interesting comments from YouTube:

@Sedrathelime

2y↑3.8K

9:20
No, nonononono. Mad Milk Syringes ROCK if you use them properly. True, Scout exists, but he isn't omnipresent, especially if his recharge isn't upgraded. No, the proper way to use MMS is as a status tagger.
Identify a large target, swap to your syringe gun for a few seconds, and then swap back. The problem I usually see in people criticizing the upgrade is assuming that it enables a hybrid battle-medic playstyle (It doesn't) and use it exclusively in their footage only to be disappointed. Let's go over all your points.

-When you have your syringe gun out, you're not healing your main target.
True, which is why you should swap to it just to tag a giant, temporarily. Any damage they take in the meantime can be tanked by overheal or healed by the status. Not to mention you'll be swapping right back.

-You're not giving teammates overheal, sharing canteens, or building uber.
Fair, but given giants are relentlessly focused, keeping everyone alive is just as useful in many situations. And again, it doesn't matter as much when you use your primary sparingly. It takes around two seconds to tag a giant or spray into a group of robots and swap back. You might argue this matters, but I've never observed a major difference.

-You're not generating your shield.
No, actually. All healing done through MMS contributes to the projectile shield. In some cases I've seen the shield generate from 0 to full in an INSTANT upon tagging a giant.

-You're taking the time to provide a status effect scout already can, without it infringing on his core gameplay.
It takes roughly the same amount of time for each of them to apply their statuses. In some cases, you can fire a volley and then have a beam on your target before any attacks land, from which you're free to use your shield or canteens.

The main strength of them, from my experience, is how cheap they are and how little they intrude on Medic's playstyle, contrary to popular belief. If used properly, they can save the entire team, or the entire round.
Thank you for coming to my TED talk, loved the video otherwise, hope to see more.

@Catilena1890

2y↑1

Time for my counterpoints:

First up, you don't need to refund every wave if you have a decent scout. By wave 3, you'll pretty much have all of the "required" upgrades

Health/Metal Regen: Both are actually very helpful on a purely-defensive engineer. I'm talking the Engineers holding the back line to block Giant Bomb Scouts that aren't instantly destroyed by the team (which happens to me often). These Engies need to stay on their Sentries at all times and the regen can really help, especially on Mannhatten. That said, they should be the LAST upgrades that an Engie gets after you have prioritized everything else.

Knockback Rage: I use it for Utility only if I notice my team is having a hard time keeping Giants in check. A Bot that can't leave the starting zone is a Bot that isn't a problem, and by keeping him there I am giving my team time to reload their shots/ammo capacity so we can melt it fast. I don't always get KBR but when I do, it really helps the team. Basically, if I am at the point where I am using Knockback Rage, you really shouldn't be yelling at me for using Knockback Rage and you need to stay in your lane and kill the fucking bot.

There is no such thing as an Unnecessary Resistance. You don't need to be constantly toggling, just in the early waves. Keeping all the resistances should be a good goal to aim for if you are a Front Line fighter (basically, everyone but Angie and Sniper).

Mad Milk Syringes are a nice treat for Medics who are maxed out on everything else AND they stack with the Blutsauger. Ever see an Aggressive Medic? It's funny af.

All comments from YouTube:

@breadmilkYT

2y↑5.8K

MvM sweats whenever medic stops gaining uber for 0.0002 nanoseconds to apply a useful effect 😡

@thethe5355

2y↑102

Frfr

@theslamjamfrincisco2820

2y↑559

yeah if i have 2-3 heavies or power classes fighting a giant, if i shoot the giant, ALL THREE get healing, if there's no scout its a easy choice for medic

@El_chara

2y↑95

It's not usefull most of the time cuz of mad milk on scout wich is just 10 time better

@theadministrator.6632

2y↑24

What’s the point of this comment?

@El_chara

2y↑123

@@theadministrator.6632 Da funny

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@ZepTheGamer

2y↑3.3K

Mad milk syringes are so insanely busted. Instead of healing one target with your medigun, you're healing your entire team by a percentage of their damage.

@Nez-ky7hn

2y↑299

He didn't say mad milk was bad. He was saying that it's the scout's job and having the medic do it is taking away from what the medic should be doing while scout can do his job at the same time.

@722lovemonkey

2y↑158

Mad Milk syringes aren't useless, but as a medic you're way better off sticking to your medigun. That milk healing is nice, but you know what's even better for survivability? The shield. The shield is absolutely critical for both the medic and the rest of the team. Milk healing won't do you any good if your health bar gets shredded by a hoard of heavies or a giant rapid fire crit soldier. Meanwhile with the shield you can just block all that damage.

Also, you're not building über or the shield when you're spraying milk syringes. Kritzkrieg über is a powerful thing in MvM that you shouldn't sacrifice for a gimmick. It lets demos plant sticky traps that'll shred giants and disintigrate hoards, help soldiers build their banners faster and makes pyro's and heavy's already high DPS even better. So why would you forgo all those benefits to be a discount scout?

And before you say "You're not a medic so you wouldn't get it". I am a medic. I'm a medic main, so everything i say comes from experience.

@manjackson2772

2y↑83

@@722lovemonkey milk healing builds shield

@mariustan9275

2y↑15

@@722lovemonkey Plus it takes the same amount of time for both to apply the effects

@PoshBeard

1y↑31

@@722lovemonkey milk healing builds shield

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@demfrodegroot7596

25w↑197

1:58
Weezy: "If there's no light blue outlines on anything, crit res should be off the table"
The 14 Buff banner soldiers giving minicrits to the 87 other damaging bots: "Allow us to introduce ourselves"

@RedShocktrooperRST

17w↑2

Crit Res does apply to minicrits yeah?

@soldier3157

17w↑3

@@RedShocktrooperRSTit doesnt

@RedShocktrooperRST

17w↑3

@@soldier3157 damn.

@benjaminoechsli1941

42w↑246

I appreciate that this list not only takes the time to say "the first tick of this perk is good, but don't invest more" for certain perks on the list, it explains why. Nice work. 👍

@CaptainKapitan

2y↑2.3K

"Never ever buy it in any circumstance"
Me, in a MvM infinite cash server: "But it feels good maxing out every upgrade ;c "

@vinzgaming4466

2y↑56

Whats the ip for it, i think its fun

@justafan9206

2y↑7

Ip?

@quadrillion92

2y↑276

Ip on my pants lol gottem

@loser4182

drink it

@theTRUEcrowithy

2y↑14

i onc ejoined one of those servers without realizing and i was so fucking confused

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@1un4cy

41w↑158

Think you forgot to mention that airblast force before jungle inferno was an almost mandatory upgrade for pyro. the pyro update changed how airblast works so robots get blasted like 6x farther than they're supposed to, and giants are supposed to be mostly impervious to airblast other than giant scouts who are only a little bit resistant to it (basically holding them in place rather than pushing them back) Sure it's unnecessary nowadays but it used to be necessary with the old airblast.

@Apsolon

22w↑9

Its ok grandpa, it been 6 years since the update.

@MrRAGE-md5rj

17w↑1

Dude. Yesterday a friend of mine was airblasting giants into death pits. It's a viable tactics!

@perejilseven1769

10w

@@MrRAGE-md5rj what happen with the money?

@Sedrathelime

2y↑3.8K

@MustacheMann22

2y↑142

legit was gonna say this xd

@ElHarmonyV

2y↑80

You only really need to hit one syringe then switch back on a giant or spray a wave then switch both don't take that much time.

@Sedrathelime

2y↑241

@@ElHarmonyV Duration increases with each hit. Not enough to make sustained fire viable, but enough to justify shooting 5 needles at a time.

@Raxarion

2y↑67

Agreed on all these points except MMS helping with shield recharge , only because I don't know about this.

Other than that , all your points are valid and I'll update after testing it out in MVM

@majickman

2y↑111

Yeah I was wondering about that. I haven't played much MvM but the clip showed him with the syringes out for several seconds which even I figured was the wrong way to use them. I usually just spray a few on a giant and get right back to healing.

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@AstroidTea8742

2y↑1.2K

Can we all agree the “teleport to spawn” canteen is basically useless.

@Raxarion

2y↑201

It has its niche in Ghost Town , I usually use teleport to spawn canteen when I run sniper there , because the tele is always on the ground , and during the downtime your teammates use the 2 way tele.

In other missions , yea , pretty much useless

@antsjp6230

2y↑79

It just sits there. And pleads to god that someone talks about it. Hell, even things like the regens and milk syringes atleast get purchased but tts dosn’t even get bought by newbies

@kevinchen5167

2y↑59

It can work as an emergency "fast" respawn if you're playing a more risky class like spy(or if you're a less experienced player), as opposed to dying and having to spend more than the canteen cost to buy back in (granted it's still relatively useless but it does serve a niche for people/classes that tend to die a lot)

@JackTheMech.

@@Raxarion why not killbind

@ZorotheGallade

2y↑79

My teleport to spawn canteen is called killbind

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@xXshadowkillerXx3

2y↑403

Mad milk syringes is useful if your team has a miscalculation and youre on death’s door step. It gives extra health when evading to the rest of your team

@armoredman6941

1y↑12

His counter to this would literally be get a better team

@someoneelse4811

49w↑25

@@armoredman6941 Not always possible. Not everyone is a god-tier TF2 veteran.

@mariustan9275

45w↑2

@@someoneelse4811 True. Sometimes you gotta get things like airblast force when the average tour count is low and you're going to have to carry a bit.

@Ultra289

42w↑2

@@mariustan9275I mean even high tours are smooth brains too sometimes 😂

@1un4cy

41w↑4

it's for a niche circumstance vs giants, a heavy heals way more with mad milk than a medic could ever heal, even with a max-upgraded quickfix

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@theunnamedaccount4009

37w↑38

There was one instance where I honestly think mad milk syringes was the play

In the recent MvM update (6 months ago), there was an expert map that was japanese-themed, and the final boss was a giant demoknight. My team went three heavies for damage, a medic and engie for support and a sniper for cleanup. With the constant barrage of small bots and the high damage output of the boss, there was no possible way for the medic to keep up with the heals over the three damage sponges. But that's when I had an idea. Me, being the medic, chose to use mad milk syringes and sprayed the boss for 0.2 seconds every now and then just to keep up the heals before going back to generating krits uber

We won the round I made that switch

@bluedistortions

9w↑2

Yeah, stopping healing for one second to apply madmilk is 100% worth it. It's team heal. This guy is just wrong on this one.

@thepyromaniactf

2y↑162

if you airblast the bomb robot into a pit it resets the bomb at the beginning, this can be very helpful

@BETMARKonTube

1y↑6

Guilty Pleasure: I rely so much on that to save the team.
They can kill everything while I keep the bomb at safe distance (or blast it into a pit, if I can).
Maybe I just always play with the "wrong team" ^^;
(also, I wish someone would cover me, the Pyro, when I do that, because I can count on the fingers on my hands, the times I got supported or healed/shielded by a medic, when I was trying to flank the bomb robot to aim the pit)

@imjustapotatoleavemealone

1y↑1

@@BETMARKonTube Killing the bots is usually more important than to reset the bomb... If its way behind your team, then you can easily do it without a medic, or send the engi to sit on it; if its right in the front line, then stop wasting your time and your teams resources to reset the bomb. Defending a choke is easy, pushing forward is not at all, its simply a bad idea most of the times. Heavy is slow, engi is vulnerable with buildings in his hand, demo can't place stickies trough a wall or spread it out from the end of the choke, sniper have almost 0 sight on the usually wide spread arena before the choke, and sitting in it is an extremely bad idea.

@BETMARKonTube

1y↑1

@@imjustapotatoleavemealone
I have no reasons to not believe you, so I guess I always find the wrong teammates.

@imjustapotatoleavemealone

1y↑1

@@BETMARKonTube I'm not saying you are wrong. Its just not ideal. Bootcamp is a mess, and somethimes mann up too. Situationally resetting the bomb is a great idea, but its soo situational that its not recommended below expert knowledge. Everything works in mvm, but first you have to know the rules to break them, soo generally its not recommended to do so. Mvm is filled with wrong teammates. I'm not patient enough to deal with it, so i try to educate them instead.

@BETMARKonTube

@@imjustapotatoleavemealone
I mean it, I do believe you, because I don't have a team or friends to play with and I always ended up with people who can't keep the bomb away from the base and didn't prioritize the Tanks until it was too late.
So I just switched from my favorite class (the Engie) to the Pyro, telling to the teammates: "Focus on the Tank. I can push the Bomb Carrier back".
... a lot of problems could be solved with a bit of communication, but the standard scenario is "they start to chat only when they have to insult someone" (or to spam).
So yes.
That was my strategy, because it saved the match many times, but as you see, I have no real experience with a working team.
That's why I have no reasons to not trust your opinion.

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@DragonuFear

1y↑15

I find health regen good on engineer if you need to set up in a spot away from your dispenser where it takes a while to get back from nearby healthpacks, and even the metal upgrade can help top you up sometimes. The health is the main one though, as you aren't usually directly engaging to make use of health on kill, you can use the extra health regen from spam you soak during repairs.

@leonel392

1y↑1

If you are not close to health and ammo you aren't playing Engineer properly, I mean, you whole thing is providing health to your heavy and other big bois

@cloudchaser8650

2y↑760

Did you know that the objectivly best upgrade in the game is jump height for heavy? It allows you to do something called "get auto kicked" the moment you buy it!

@deyontemyers4109

41w↑22

Manhatten little high truck takes awhile for a heavy to climb and start helping people defend the 2nd story if you're team ain't doing it

So it's useful in that situation tho
Don't know about rottenberg

@1un4cy

41w↑17

i take it sometimes, lets you reach silly places and get more movement out of revving up

@BloodOfTartaros

37w↑4

@@deyontemyers4109Mannhattan*

@deyontemyers4109

37w↑3

@@BloodOfTartaros ....AAAAHHHHHHHH

@realchiknuggets

36w↑1

@@BloodOfTartaros I've never seen a comment section so littered with horrible spelling

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@asxp2433

2y↑97

9:20 its actually not as bad as you think, if you just hotswap to it and hit a giant for just one syringe, you can heal everyone attacking it for a surprising amount of hp. this is especially useful for when your heal target is dying too fast to heal and/or if your scout doesnt have mad milk, is dead or is absent.

@asxp2433

42w

@@SpizeNice i forgot about this

@thunderspark1536

37w↑6

@@asxp2433But the thing is Uber and shield are both gained from the syringes, and the scout won't always have his milk ready. Hitting a giant once makes it a cakewalk.

@maxswagcaster5315

2y↑77

So a few things
Disposable mini sentry: the mini sentry isn’t very good at killing things, I use it as a diversion to divert bots fire when the get around certain corners on different maps which gives the team time to move to a fall back position or push the bots back towards the front, this is where the disposable is actually useful but this is usually later waves on most missions (including custom missions)

Air blast is almost essential on some custom missions, on most valve missions it’s not really that useful if your team is good at killing things but custom missions tend to throw more giant scouts and upgraded meds at you that can be a problem if you don’t have a sniper as well as some bots you might have to pit because they are tough to kill unless you have a damn good team some missions are even designed so you have to pit the bots because their regen makes killing them conventionally impossible, also when playing air blast is stupid useful because I can push the bomb back as much as I want to compensate for me not being able to kill enough things but most of this applies more to custom maps and missions since the valve maps get kinda boring after a while

Mad milk syringes also have their uses, I’d agree on Manhattan they aren’t all that good because you can’t arc your shots from spawn into the front line because the front and spawn both have a roof that would block the syringes. Mad milk syringes are best used to spray a group of giants then switch to your medi gun to keep the heal rate up and for aggressive pyros who might be farther away from you

@thehunt3rs_

41w↑9

As someone who basicly plays Wave 666 nearly everytime i play MvM, i can say that Health Regen is a NEEDED upgrade, because without it even with ALL my resistances MAXED, i still get sent to the shadow realm of near-death red health, especially since 9 times out of 10 im going to choose Phlog+Gas Passer Pyro

@Otto500206

37w

Plus, health sources aren't effective as much as WeezyTF2 says.

1) Not having a Medic is more effective in certain situations, like in 666. Better attack > better defence, always. And having a Medic lowers the attack output of a team.

2) In many hard waves, dispensers get destroyed easily because people use it when their health is low and many players still do that even if they are going to be attacked right on there.

3) Health packs isn't effective on MVM just because we need to wait for them after someone takes them.

@sillylocket3122

2y↑86

Mad milk syringes are good if you don't have a scout on your team. You just need to work on switching your syringe gun and medigun frequently.

@deyontemyers4109

41w↑4

Or...if everything else if filled out

My Uber full
My shield full
Can I just shoot one madmilk syringe it will just take a second or two

@thetexanbuzzsaw3145

19w↑6

Knockback Rage can be used to separate giant medics from their pocket and stop super scouts.

Not something to spam/prioritize, but on the later waves/community mvm it's not a bad upgrade.

@dooter3253

2y↑1.6K

One thing I wanna mention that I actually realized while playing Mannhattan with a couple of friends on advanced as engie, is that while the disposable Mini Sentry is very niche, one amazing sidegrade in later waves is the fact it can give you revenge crits without the need to destroy your sentry, and since it self destructs when out of ammo AND has at least enough health to get a few kills and assists, allows for free frontier justice crits WITHOUT destroying your main sentry

@therealchasecrafter522

2y↑50

Main reason why I use it other than assisting my main sentry

@predator5775

2y↑148

Someone who actually knows what they're doing without dismissing. I salute you, fellow engy!

@mistykitchen9515

2y↑9

cough cough MANNHATTEN

@dooter3253

2y↑16

@@mistykitchen9515 I am so sorry for my travesty of a post, fixed

@dooter3253

2y↑6

@@predator5775 :D

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@timhorton8085

2y↑22

Counterpoint to juggle pyro:
If your team is working around a pyro with built knock back, they're applying huge burst damage by focusing on offensive upgrades, knowing they don't need to take as many defensive upgrades because of the decreased pressure from the bots. Taking max knockback and a scorch shot with a cracked fire rate can hold entire waves at the spawn gate.

@hollowlegend590

2y↑70

Every single game I've ever played of MvM with a spy, the spy had by far the most deaths and the least amount of damage.

@panchofenix9912

2y↑3

Underscore gaming: is ViAbLe

@mehmetaktan8527

2y↑19

@@panchofenix9912 no its viable you just need to know circle strafing and know about robot ai i know its hard to use your brain but try using it

@woop6727

2y↑45

spy is just a difficult class to play but hes definitely viable
its just rare to see good spies because you need to know how to play properly

@mehmetaktan8527

2y↑2

@@woop6727i hate that some gibus brass beast and heavy and kritzkrieg medic combo can finish the game with over 200k damage while i use my brain and only get 90 k :(

@woop6727

2y↑27

@@mehmetaktan8527 damage numbers mean nothing, a bad heavy can still outdamage good players just because hes a heavy, a bad engi can still outdamage because his sentry does the work for him and so on

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@kritty8962

1y↑19

I've got 34 tours and a lot of this information is really useful. I've always wanted a 6 stack to play the default mvm team and nothing different and hearing that knockback rage reduces damage is crazy + also had no idea sentry firing speed was broken either

@thefinnishphoenix7412

2y↑2

This channel has helped me with understanding MvM somewhat better. Hope you get more subs in the future, your content is good quality!

@Jamie_black

10w

This channel is AMAZING. Love your vids

@TARINunit9

2y↑324

"Nobody ever looks up"
Fun fact: that's why we have the Barnacles in Half-Life

@Ya0w

2y↑30

It's a good thing you dont have to look up for those enemies.

@ChosenPlayer100

2y↑13

Those disgust me and the main reason why i cant complete half life T_T

@name_unkn0wn

2y↑3

@@ChosenPlayer100
Why? Can't stand to die hentai style?

@Monkey_30000

@@ChosenPlayer100 Mod the game to replace them for something else

@ChosenPlayer100

2y↑2

@@Monkey_30000 well it still disgust me with mods
Like the rope mod, gman barnacle and stuff
I completely remove them sadly which makes me sad because there is no extra challenge but at the same time i can play the game atleast but thanks anyway
Edit: well technically u can remove them in half life 2 (cause source) with easy commands but in half life 1 not really even if i kill them their dead bodies make me sick so i tried finding a disappear after death something mod

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@Ubercentraltf2

2y↑16

Mad milk syringes does build Über and you can also swap from it to your medi gun at any time. Meaning you can heal way more with it.

@realchiknuggets

36w

Other commenters say it doesn't build uber, but does build shield

@russellbrown6888

25w

@@realchiknuggetsThose people are wrong, it does build uber.

@savasolarov8424

2y↑3

I remember having a blast with mvm mode, but I never knew about the bugs with sentry gun and heavy's gun. Damn I enjoy playing both. Thanks for the vid. I do appreciate the video premise and suggestions/logic

@ArcherR135

13w↑1

Coming from an Engineer main who’s getting into MvM more, Metal Regen is a GODSEND. Your sentry won’t always be right next to your dispenser, and since your dispenser needs to be up front with the Heavies, Pyros, Soldiers, and Demos to keep them constantly stocked up, walking over to it to get metal can put you in the line of fire, and potentially get you killed. Metal Regen in later waves can keep all your buildings where they need to be, especially on more ammo scarce parts of the map if you happen to get pushed back.

@kenpak728

2y↑2

I watched this such a long time ago, and i just realized that im in the video! if only for a split second at 8:49, but your videos are the reason I went back to playing mvm for a little bit!

@C0DY420

1y↑4

Honestly, increasing the recharge speed of max milk seems good because it ensures you will have mad milk ready when needed

@shamelessLWCV

Refill ammo canteens auto refill your milk for 25 credits (either way if you know what you’re doing you will have it ready when you want it regardless)

@Kilesfactor

2y↑738

Wowie, I didn't know most of these upgrades were broken and valve just never fixed them. Thanks for doing the research, I'll just have to watch this video again to make sure that I don't mistakenly buy something I shouldn't.

@btfo420

2y↑17

it's actually quite simple. If it doesn't help you sustain and do more dmg, it's mostly trash. MVM is pretty much a big DPS check.

@Kilesfactor

2y↑9

@@btfo420 I always got full rocket specialist thinking that it increased blast radius, and I got sentry fire rate thinking that it fucking worked lol

@btfo420

2y↑16

@@Kilesfactor oh yea except for those. RS does increase blast radius, on direct hit lol.

Sentry fire rate capped out at 2 but 1 is enough if you don't want to wrangler. Also crit canteen and wrangler bypass that firing speed bug for some reasons.

@IcyRobloxer

2y↑2

Same with me.

@tuxedo1557

i hope the algorithm picks up this because you have a very consistent production quality!

@WeeTheGee

glad this somehow got into my recommendations, that's some great content there!

@metal_skeleton_viking

weezy this video is a 50/50 for me dude that is a good thing

@cristinagomez3283

This channel is very poggers
Also, one time, we had all of the good upgrades (one tick of rocket specialist, explosive headshots, mad milk slow, canteen specialist, explode on ignite, health on kill, dispenser range, etc) so we just wasted all of our money on useless upgrades.

@alsoSeeb

35w↑1

I will die on the hill that a single point of knockback rage is helpful when super scouts are present and your team isn't capable of/consistent in slowing them down or killing them quickly. I also like it for Ghost Town to separate giant medics from heavies. That said, it's not a great buy aside from niche cases, but I like to pick it up mid to late match for the hell of it. Pinning a sentry buster to a wall while the engineer is being revived is a nice feeling once in a while.

@mcintoshpc

2y↑535

Minor detail: waves with flare pyros can benefit from crit res, even with no crit boosted bots

@predator5775

2y↑19

Another thing: I tend to buy ahead of time since at times the team im in can't hold a position and the robots get their crit buff sooner. It's rare, but I've had some close calls because I invested in crit res. and could take 1 hit before I kill the carrier.

@mauser98kar

2y↑8

There are also waves with lots of Buff Banner Soldiers that not only mini-crits you - they buff any other bot, meaning mini-crits from everywhere. On such wave even crit res can be a decisive factor, no matter the small difference between regular and mini-crit damage on paper.

@realchiknuggets

36w↑1

@@mauser98kar that's very good to know, thanks for sharing

@AlienFan25

2y↑3

Man he must have been on that youtube grind, for actually making good content. He jumped A lot from 7 k (whatever the number is now because it will be different at some point). 20 videos, man that's inspiring.

@Paracosmic9

2y↑1

Very informative video!
I didn't know that some of the upgrades were broken

@davidcastro1419

49w

Haven't played TF2 in like 13 years, so it's really fun to hear about all this mvm tech I've never seen.

@loganstrash

49w↑1

highly recommend reinstalling it, although beware capture the flag specifically does have an annoying amount of cheating bots, beyond that theres tons of new stuff to enjoy

@MordredXIV

2y↑1

Having really played a lot of MvM as of late, I had no idea about the heavy knock back and sentry fire speed, those two being my main classes for the mode. Now I know what to avoid in the futurem 10/10

@ScoutgamingIguess42069

48w

Thanks for giving me a list of all the upgrades I need to buy

@lawsonhovind7335

2y↑2.1K

I'm glad someone made a video like this, watching this video I've realised how much I was wasting with unnecessary upgrades like Burn Time and Disposable Sentry (which I'm a little sad about, I always found it fun to put in a little corner for a bit more damage from an unexpected angle). Still, very well put together video, great work!

@Jpeg.g

2y↑78

I get mini at the mid point and put it mid way through the map for bonus damage if needed or to stop random stragglers from getting through and back caping

@amotoz

2y↑22

Unexpeted angle? They're bots

@lawsonhovind7335

2y↑165

@@amotoz Bots still give me the serotonin from the rapid "dingdingdingding" of damage, thats all I care about. If they were tricked or not, they still take damage

@amotoz

2y↑81

@@lawsonhovind7335 You sir are the definition of based.

@chickensoup7605

2y↑21

Its still really good on later wave as mention in the video, you can pull aggro/extra dmg. But the main selling point is how cute the minisentry is for me .

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@hertz-0144

2y↑1

Wow, as someone with 35 tours I really know all of that you said in the video but I never knew that Firing Speed for Heavy was bugged, normally I upgraded that to 4 points.

Really thanks. :)

@mariustan9275

I think you should still max it out, but if you have the money to get a second tick DONT. Get a resistance instead. If you have enough for the 3rd and more, go ahead.

@NCRVeteranRanger_

I haven't played TF2 for a long time. Like, 5 months. Man, watching this makes Me want to start up TF2 and play it again. Keep fighting the good fight

@randomdummy108

1y↑4

pro tip: make sure to increase scout's speed and jump it makes him basically sonic and is useful for dodging attacks to inflict your own attacks (also helps you get melee hits in without taking too much damage)

@lukemimnagh4185

“As a small channel, I’m the algorithm’s bitch.”- this immediately earns you a sub, just for this humour alone.

@Bearded_Badass

49w↑2

A reason to buy the health regen, it gives you just a small bit more sustain that if theres nothing else you need it doesnt hurt to buy. I mainly mean for the giant bots, saved me a point capture

@niftyscrusade4291

2y↑593

I find the "Avoid Rocket specialist and Sentry fire speed upgrades past 2 ticks" as most helpful because engie is generally the most important class in MvM and he needs to be as conservative as absolutely possible and with Soldier, avoiding the higher ticks is just a given because rocket specialist ain't cheap

@P.H691

2y↑31

Without engineer, a team falls apart after 10 minutes as the ammo and area of denial is so useful

@Treblaine

I'm not seeing what's so important. The dispenser is useful but I think the sentry's damage output is really being over-rated, even with all the fire rate upgrades that work and wrangler the sentry is still less damage than a Brass beast with a single tick of fire rate increase. And heavy can benefit from marked-for-death minicrits, sentry cannot. Also kritzkrieg.

Sure you can use crit canteens but people don't like blowing money on canteens as routine, you can get minicrits and kritz just for playing the game and invest credits in lasting benefits.

@btfo420

1y↑23

Engineer is a necessity just because of his dispenser. You can be a lazy boi drinking beer all day and no one will bat an eye because your dispenser is up

But that aside, ammo canteen is dirt cheap and ammo upgrade can substitute engie. It cost more money sure, but it still get the job done on maps with lower difficulty

@Dushess

So it's worth to buy 1 or 2 ticks of that upgrade.

@Ultra289

42w

Nah, most important one is Sniper... Like the damage he does is ridiculously high and Sniper in mvm isnt hard like in casual, also he can slow down super scout,give mini crit ,destroy Uber medics and even deal damage to tank...

Engi dispenser is cool and all, but ammo canteens are cheap and ammo packs are almost everywhere

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@tremeschinion9420

2y↑1

seeing your sub count multiply by 5 (idk how to say it like doubled, tripled or quadrupled) in just over 2 months makes me genuinely smile

@SaucyBoy

very helpful, thanks for enlightening us about the firing speeds

@autotec-20

23w

This is one of the videos of all time

@ZaksterPlayz

I never knew I needed this until now.

@charizard7892

1y↑1

This channel is very tf2 guide. Please show it to people who will enjoy. Thank you algorithm

@neutilan1049

2y↑553

2:00 you can still use crit resistance there since mini-crit damage by buff banner soldiers can be reduced with that upgrade too

@sealsealin9959

2y↑17

Exactly, it works well against flare pyros too.

@cytosine6870

2y↑8

Crit resistance also helps with things like sniper headshits, and flare gun and its variants crits/minicrits

@MrLeonardord

2y↑3

@@cytosine6870 the robot sniper can headshot?

@cytosine6870

2y↑5

@@MrLeonardord yeah, notice sometimes you take 150 damage (assuming no resistances) from a sniper shot and hear the crit sound

@charlsondemong4922

2y↑4

@@cytosine6870 I thought sniper bots' headshots are impossible because of their programming?

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@PugVO

2y↑3

I use the madmilk syringes and it s so good to let everyone heal themselves all the time on all enemy so you don't have to make far ahead scout stop to crossbow him or stop focusing a low health allies, + since there are healing themselves you can focus on overheal most of the time.

@hector_campus

2y↑2

The key of use mad milk stringe is the use proyectile speed and trajectory, shoot before robots get too close or before they are in your vision and switch to medigun, heavy with mad milk and medigun support can take a great pain against big robots or hordes, a fully upgrade heavy with resistances and upgrade medigun with mad milk is almost inmortal.

@Paulunatr

35w↑2

While it's true that Mad Milk Syringes is a common noob trap, it's important to note that it can create a lot of value in the hands of a player who knows how MvM Medic is supposed to be played. Your medigun should be out and active 90% of the time, but just like in regular PvP play, sometimes you need to make use of your other toys. Quickly spraying a giant with Mad Milk Syringes basically turns your damage-dealers into their own pocket Medics for a few seconds, freeing you up to do revive a teammate, get out of a bad spot, heal yourself up, or sneak in an Ubersaw swing if you're absolutely desperate for charge.
Mad Milk Syringes should be treated like the weapons it's attached to: only for emergencies. But if you like to run the syringe guns in MvM, it's worth picking up. It can do amazing things in clutch moments for a decent price.

@Mono-so1cl

2y↑1

BUT! BUT! The disposable sentry paired with the Frontier Justice and an Uber Canteen is really good.

@lurkerlp

Thank you for this advice I will purchase all of these upgrades as soon as possible.

@Anthony74561

2y↑337

I found a niche for health regen, on the final wave of hamlet hostility(the 3 tanks) as a pyro you're mainly not gonna kill the robots, so the health regen helps when you have a bunch of flames and rockets coming at you while working the tank.

@realdragon

2y↑25

It's useful for spy from my experience

@Neometalll

2y↑4

But robots will be close around the tanks (unless for some reason you let them get inside the city) and with hp on kill you'll still be better.

@norrecvizharan1177

2y↑10

@@Neometalll True, but either way, having at least a tiny bit is better than nothing, especially since it means that you can still recover in the cases where you take damage but don't get the kill, and there's no nearby medpacks/dispensers to work with (kinda situational, I know, but still convenient regardless)

@Donkey_Kinsir

2y↑8

Its really usefull on Scout aswell.

Youll never really kill that much robots, and your main regen source is the dropped blood money.
But you have to run around the map quite often and cant allways rely only on the money.
Atleast one point in the regen can do wonders.

@agentbloon

2y↑14

@@Donkey_Kinsir but you always have overheal as scout. If you're playing support scout you definitely do not need it. Even if you're playing damage scout it doesn't help either.

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@crumpscrumbs

Awesome video. I had no idea about like half of these and I've done 40+ Tours.

@cheesyminer

18w

As someone who literally just started playing TF2 a few days ago, thank you for this. I've been exclusively playing MvM and I have definitely fallen into several of these traits, especially the resistances and burn damage. Thanks.

@fruity9465

17w↑1

Don’t listen this, most this is just opinion based (some just wrong) don’t do what they want, do what you want.

@cheesyminer

17w

@@fruity9465 Thanks. However, since resistances were about the only one I'd fall for before watching this, I don't feel bad about wanting to just start maxing out my DPS anymore.

@cinical7160

38w

Quite useful, didn't know certain upgrades didn't work after a couple ticks. I'll keep that in mind for later, thanks!

@QuentinB20

Nice content thats pretty informative. You got my like !

@olliirock_221

13w↑2

this channel is very poggers

@quiteabizarreone6441

2y↑136

on mad milk needles, I always use this upgrade because the ability to heal the whole team at once by just taking out the needle gun and firing 5 shots at a giant takes 2 seconds and is generally very worth it, not to mention it gives medic 10 health on hit so you can use it while retreating if your team somehow dies

@novaspion2328

I genuinely did not know that about Rocket Specialist and Heavy Firing Speed. Thank you!

@someguy-on-yt

2y↑1

Evil Weezy be like: "Whatever you do, spam airblast!"

@ericb3157

the best use for AIrblast is to blast the bomb into a pit.
that can send it all the way back to the bots' spawn point.

@washingmachine3772

1y↑1

The thing is, sometimes health regen is useful because sometimes the only medic has their medigun shoved up the heavies arse, and if you got 1 health and there’s no medkit or dispenser nearby, sometimes you gotta hunker down and use the health regen

@leonel392

Yes, but the 30 seconds it takes to give you 60 HP its enough time to run and heal yourself with a health pack, health on kill, Scout milk or Dispenser

@terryb0ss98

31w

as a fairly new player that wants to get into MvM, this really helps! thank you.

@aprcktiplaal9293

9w↑1

ok so the second tick of heavies firing speed is worthless but what about third and fourth?
is it just that one tier that is useless or is it every tier after too?

@bungo332

2y↑556

The disposable sentry is good when paired with frontier justice, gets a few kills then dies and gives you consistent amounts of crits

@paybafpvzimp6296

2y↑36

yeah especailly if you can keep building it super fast and always have crits

@breadmilkYT

2y↑82

Yeah but that requires using the frontier justice which sucks compared to other engie weapons in mvm like the rescue ranger

@chpsilva

2y↑27

It's useful to cover alternate routes like ghost town, when everyone focus on the main path but let a scout sneak through carrying the bomb.

@twiq.2903

2y↑10

Disposable sentry is good for removing engineers and flanking scouts that are too fast

@dibs6462

2y↑6

@@breadmilkYTWell i dont have the rescue ranger and i don complain about it

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@Blumoon09

2y↑2

Airblast is some what ok for taking out the big loose canon demo in 2 cities

@NRVNQSRR

35w

Thanks for making this video, I'm going to buy these.

@user-bj7bm1jg1y

best channel for advice

@glitchisinthis

I'll keep this in mind on my 2nd ever tour, thanks

@some1on_yt

15w

"this is poggers"- worlds best quote in 2023

@WulfieZi

2y↑334

1:58 Mini crit damage does still count as crit damage though, so you can by one point ($150) of crit resistance if, say, you want to avoid the mini crit damage of those 14 buff banner soldiers.

@WulfieZi

2y↑51

Also keep in mind things like Demoknights and Flare Pyros don't need a blue outline to do crit damage

@nathanielstanford3115

2y↑18

The way crit damage resist works makes it much less useful against mini crit than you'd expect. It doesn't apply the resist to all the damage of a critical shot, it applies it ONLY to the extra critical damage. This means for a full crit your resist applies to 2/3 of the damage, but for a minicrit it only applies to about 1/4 of the damage.

@eduardpeeterlemming

2y↑1

Is cleaner carbine META in mvm?

@rinmen8794

2y↑6

@@eduardpeeterlemming yes it's meta against tanks along with the bushwacka if you're sniper, it's really useful and can be an alternative to a demoman/gas passer pyro (able to pick meds/shred tank)

@TheTrueEvilSpud

2y↑7

It only reduces the additional mini crit damage though; ie a direct hit rocket is usually 90+32 damage, with two ticks of crit resistance it goes down to 90+16 as opposed to one blast reducing to 68+32. If the soldier is close enough for damage ramp up the difference is greater. You get more for your money from regular resistances. Only exception would be if melee bots have buff banners.

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@MilesFox92

Dayum, I recognized Sonic Adventure 2 music despite it being one of the songs I barely remember, great music choice there, haha

@MilesFox92

48w

Oh, here I am again

@exdras5009

Your guides are very helpful!

@smoothiefries

2y↑1

“This channel is very poggers”

@JOELJOESTARmx9

Lmao i almost got all predicted excepto for the rocket specialist...you trully learn something new each day

@stanthetree4865

this channel is INDEED very poggers

@barfy2650

2y↑238

I've always had the opinion that there are genuinely good upgrades that you always, ALWAYS should buy, and then there are the "quirky" upgrades. There's stuff like milk syringes, knockback rage, jump height (on some classes), which sort of entice the player with vaguely cool-sounding names and effects but are either broken or not great and terribly worded; put these alongside upgrades that are straight throwing money in the trash, and you end up with probably half of the upgrades in MvM being a massive detriment to your output without you even realizing. Part of this falls on Valve's shoulders, since it doesn't seem difficult in the slightest to just fix some decade-old bugs, but I personally feel that this whole issue requires a general tune-up of the upgrade menu. There are a couple neat bugs nowadays, like ghost upgrading the Soda Popper and Scottish Resistance, although they usually have such a subtle impact on gameplay that I find it better to just skip over them entirely. Jeez, even the legitimately cool things about upgrades are usually pretty much just a waste of time...

Anyways, great video as always, Banna Man Team four to

@thedastardlylizard5944

2y↑4

Sadly Scout's winger actually is worse with jump height. It does like 20 fall damage when you double jump. It IS really good wi speed though

@barfy2650

2y↑4

@@thedastardlylizard5944 True, I didn't think about that. You're also giving up the almighty power of the Mad Milk by equipping it, and the DPS from 5 slightly buffed shots just won't cut it on waves with giant scouts/later waves as a whole compared to the utility of a major chunk of damage returned as health. I do still occasionally use the Winger on early waves, just because it's fun.

@yeethappymeta

2y↑3

my brother maxes out jump height on heavy for no reason at all.

@thatrandomcrit5823

2y↑8

Milk syringes are good, though.
That, and knockback rage can be used to push robots carrying the bomb out of bounds, causing the bomb reset

@somegalnamedseelpit3713

2y↑1

The fun part about getting the +60% fire rate on Soda is stunning your team by getting max tank damage as Scout.

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@FigureOfConfliction

Look at all this amazing information!

@LittleScienceGuyFN

36w

I LOVE mvm so its nice to see a YouTuber who gives tips on mvm

@Braxtonsmith1147

41w↑1

guys i think this channel is very poggers

@jamesbrownhill6819

I found this in my recommended and I am so happy that I did.

@TheToxicDrift

Time to help this guy: this channel is very poggers

@petemc5885

2y↑152

I guess the entire video comes with a big asterisk, as some of these upgrades can be very useful in certain use cases, but things like rocket specialist are so important for people to know about.

@dannybeane2069

2y↑1

I mean some are literally bugged and provide 0 tangible benefit.

@petemc5885

2y↑27

@@dannybeane2069 yeah, hence the “some of” and the comment about rocket specialist

@civilsecuritylite12054

@@petemc5885 Rocket specialist is good on Level 1 already. If you do max it out doe, you can practically clear groups of bots even more quicker and delete Uber meds much more easily. Althrough, that's only if you have money to spare after buying all the other necessary upgrades to stay alive.. and honestly. Getting this upgrade is just "get level 1 or get it to max. Dont keep it at level 2 or anything"

@Poltard

2y↑4

Knockback rage actually helped me though as heavy.

@zallesyn4686

2y↑1

how much time does medic mad milk last? cos if its even just 3 seconds it might be worth it to hit 1-2 shots and immidiately switch back to medigun

@trumanphilips4021

13w

During the firmware frenzy event, the team i was on as well as myself found something very interesting. The best strat for medic is battle medic. Amputator, vaccinator, and blutsager. We also had to devise retreat tactics, but with mad milk syringes mu medigin became pointless other than sheild and revives. Because the main damage dealers were heavy, demo, and soldier, the splash damage constantly healed them.

@Catilena1890

2y↑1

@geraldtucker6952

Anytime I play Manhattan I usually go engi with another engineer so I can apply the Texas style roll out.
Max out building health, jag swing, at least 1-2 points in extra metal, extended dispenser range, one in firing speed and clip size for the rescue ranger, and at least one point in each of the resistances (excluding fire).

Grab the disposable sentry and teleporters and use them to agro the enemy by making them fire behind themselves. May only be a tiny distraction but its worked well. Sentry goes on the barrel in the spawn pit and your sentry sits on your right side.
If they get the first point you set up on the third point.

@yurisopilnyak9425

2y↑94

The biggest use of mad milk syringes i've ever found is when your scout doesnt use it himself, and your heavy has to face off against a crit giant heavy, you can't really outheal it, and if your shield isn't up, you can just use the milk to let heavy heal off of it

@christianwright7581

2y↑10

Plus you, the Medic, are assisting in not just healing the Heavy, but you're also dealing chip damage alongside that.

@scrunckly1333

thats a very specific scenario

@buttsaggington6379

2y↑3

@@christianwright7581 but your DPS as a medic will probably be inferior to the damage gained by keeping your heavy alive for a few more seconds

@christianwright7581

2y↑1

@@buttsaggington6379 the chip damage isn't the main focus here. What IS the main focus is the Mad Milk getting applied to the robot, thereby allowing the Heavy and anyone else shooting at the robot(s) a good chance at survival.

@xailonut8763

2y↑3

@@christianwright7581 so why would you mention the chip damage

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@diddles976

2y↑14

As a medic main, I say that the one of the only reasons to pull out your syringe gun is if everyone else is dead (like if they don't move away from a sentry buster) or if you desperately need health. Don't be a battle medic, folks, the brass beast heavy will outperform you every time

@undataphstarlane6752

1y↑1

Well only time i wip out syringegun to get quick burst mad milk syringes out and imidietly switch to medi gun

@thedecentgamer7818

i play battle medic, because im cool like that

@diddles976

@@thedecentgamer7818 I respect that

@Capyccino_

12w

I've been buying health and metal regeneration for so long. Explains why I've been struggling to keep buildings alive. This video has saved me and turns out I've been buying the wrong upgrades for Engie the whole time