Evan Rachel Wood (born September 7, 1987) is an American film, television, … Read Full Bio ↴Evan Rachel Wood (born September 7, 1987) is an American film, television, and theater actress who, on occasion, sings. She began acting in the mid 90s, appearing in several television films and series. After small roles on the programs "The Profiler" and "American Gothic," she landed a significant part on the critically-acclaimed ABC family drama "Once and Again" (1999-2002), where she earned much praise for her portrayal of a young teen dealing with such issues as anorexia and homosexuality.

Wood made her film debut in 1998's "Digging To China", but did not garner much attention in the format until her Golden Globe-nominated performance in 2003's "thirteen." She has since starred in such diverse motion pictures as "Pretty Persuasion" (2005), "The Upside of Anger" (2005) and "Down in the Valley" (2006), as well as several others.

Wood has been described by The Guardian newspaper as being "wise beyond her years" and as "one of the best actresses of her generation".

In 2007 she starred as Lucy in the film "Across the Universe," which was the first movie to employ the use of her impressive singing voice. She debuted it on "Once and Again," where she sang "Red Red Robin" (at a wedding) and a few older folk songs (for a play her character starred in). In 2002, she also recorded two songs for the holiday compilation "School's Out! Christmas": "Christmas Isn't Christmas Without You" and a cover of the old chestnut "Silver and Gold."

Her solo contributions to the "Across the Universe" soundtrack are: "Hold Me Tight", "It Won't Be Long", "If I Fell", and "Blackbird".

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Evan Rachel Wood Lyrics

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If I fell in love with you
Would you promise to be true?
And help me understand
Cause I've been in love before
And I've found that love was more
Than just holding hands

If I gave my heart to you

I must be sure from the very start
That you would love me more than her

If I trust in you, oh please
Don't run and hide
If I love you too, oh please
Don't hurt my pride like her

Cause I couldn't stand the pain
And I would be sad
If our new love was in vain

So I hope you see
That I would love to love you
And that she will cry
When she learns we are two

Cause I couldn't stand the pain
And I would be sad
If our new love was in vain

So I hope you see
That I would love to love you
And that she will cry

When she learns we are two
If I fell in love with you

Overall Meaning

The song "If I Fell" by Evan Rachel Wood is a poignant and moving reflection on the complexities of love and the struggles that come with it. The lyrics express the singer's innermost thoughts and fears about falling in love and being hurt again, while also hoping for the possibility of a genuine and fulfilling connection with someone else.

The opening lines of the song, "If I fell in love with you, would you promise to be true?" set the tone for the rest of the song, stating that the singer is hesitant to enter into a new relationship without having some assurance that the other person will be trustworthy and honest. This fear is rooted in the singer's past experience of being in love and realizing that it was more complicated than just holding hands, which suggests that the singer is looking for something deeper and more meaningful in a relationship.

The middle part of the lyrics is the singer asking the other person to promise to love them "more than her." This is a clear reference to the other person's past love interest, indicating that the singer is aware of a previous relationship and is worried that they may not be able to measure up to that person or may be competing with them for the other person's affection. The lines following this plea are a request for the other person to not hurt the singer's pride like their previous love did, indicating that the singer has been hurt before and is vulnerable to having their feelings hurt again.

In the final part, the singer expresses their hope of having a genuine connection with the other person and the inevitable pain that may come from it. This is followed by a final plea for the other person to see the singer's love for them and to understand that their previous love may be hurt by their new relationship.

Line by Line Meaning

If I fell in love with you
If I were to allow myself to fall in love with you

Would you promise to be true?
Would you pledge to be faithful?

And help me understand
And guide me through the complexities of love

Cause I've been in love before
Because I've had romantic experiences in the past

And I've found that love was more
And I've realized that love entails more

Than just holding hands
Than simply physical contact

If I gave my heart to you
If I offered you my deepest feelings

I must be sure from the very start
I need to be certain from the beginning

That you would love me more than her
That your affection towards me would surpass that towards someone else

If I trust in you, oh please
If I confided in you, oh please

Don't run and hide
Don't evade or escape from me

If I love you too, oh please
If I have feelings towards you as well, oh please

Don't hurt my pride like her
Don't cause me the same humiliation as she did

Cause I couldn't stand the pain
Because I wouldn't be able to handle the emotional distress

And I would be sad
And I would experience sadness

If our new love was in vain
If our fresh romance ultimately proved to be pointless

So I hope you see
Therefore, I wish for you to perceive

That I would love to love you
That I yearn to care for you

And that she will cry
And that she will weep

When she learns we are two
Upon realization that we are a couple

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Written by: John Winston Lennon, Paul James McCartney

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Most interesting comment from YouTube:

Erdem Memisyazici

Indeed. Now there is a great saying in Turkish which I will be foreign enough to translate and it goes like so, "just because your father has a beard it doesn't make everyone with a beard your father."

Now that being said here's my assessment of Brian Warner's psychology from just a few hours of interviews I've listened to and his biography.

He had sex with men before he hit puberty and considered it a positive thing however when he did reach puberty his actual gender identity came forth and he didn't quite enjoy his testosterone flow and earlier memories.

He did say he lost his virginity in his early teens (14), I suspect that's what he just wants to say publicly. (In at least two interviews he makes a joke which sexualizes children. It's not the jokes themselves but there is a pattern of humor which somehow always puts the two together. We laugh to often disassociate a subject matter, this may be the case here. *edited* I wasn't aware of this before this comment so I came back to edit it but Bianca Allaine's accusations sort of point me a bit more toward this direction.)

This would explain a few things, 1st one is that he really hates women. He wants to break women down and torture them, cut his initials into them etc. because he wants to be them. (or hates them for not being them, why would you want to see your name bleed on someone? He also has a problem with looking at himself in the mirror. He isn't happy with who he is.)

2nd he always wants women to be as young as possible, possibly to remind him of his youth. (He mentions in his latest interview that he isn't quite grown up in his mind. Also his girlfriends are quite a bit younger than him.)

3rd his sexual experiences with men always accompany degrading someone, he makes jokes like, "wear a bib for the jizz". (I haven't heard of a single sexual experience described in fact where it's not degrading for him with men, and he isn't torturing with women.)

I don't think Mr. Warner realized he shouldn't have had sex so young and he is severely lacking the psychological education to see this issue. (His constant addiction to stimulants is an indication that he may be lacking confidence.)

It's also possible that he is suffering from gender dysphoria but I don't have enough information to come to that conclusion. It's most likely that he is straight and doesn't know it. (Maybe a real psychologist could comment here, this is the best I got)

In his mind he seems to believe that because his first girlfriend broke his heart and betrayed him when he trusted her it should reflect upon all women negatively but obviously the problem is with his gender identity.

He needs a good psychologist and/or knowledge on gender and sexuality.

He really is a genius, but unfortunately an evil one. The reason for that is religion failing him, according to him (not true). He went to a Christian school and really believed them at first (had a very fire and brimstone teacher). Finding out it's not quite as tangible as he had hoped in his mind gave him a reason to screw over anyone he wants. It's what interested him in Satanism.

He actually likes religion, but only in desperation and to rebel against. (He has a tattoo on his hands which proclaims it's faith that keeps him together)

Edited: Corrected "sexual identity" to "gender identity" (I did say I'm not a psychologist 😀 All my sources come from extensive Googling)

All comments from YouTube:

Maria Noury

2y↑41

Con respecto a lo que dice a las familias, quiero acotar que es necesario también decir que no abandonen a la persona que se aleja por su abusador. Aunque no entiendan nada recuerden quien era tu familiar y que lo sigue siendo, pero esta siendo manipulada. Esperenla y estén con ella una vez que logre dejar o todas las veces que intente dejar a su abusador.

cesar valdez

hasta que encontre uno en español, si hablo ingles pero me da flojera escribir, preugnta porque si ella estaba conciente de lo que esta pasando porque se queda ahi o no se aleja? osea duro mucho tiempo ahi

SapphireSly

2y↑3

14:40 “I’m white”

A S

2y↑4

@SapphireSly hahahaha lo peor de todo es que estas acusaciones son completamente falsas. mejor actriz que amber heard por kilometros, pero sigue siendo una gran y elaborada mentira. Este tipo de personas no conocen limites. Lastima por las reales victimas de abuso

DOC BAINL

@A S you the gatekeeper of trauma. I'm a survivor I don't need some try hard Marilyn fan speaking for me. Fight your own battles we don't need you.

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Gwen Walravens

2y↑44

Gaslighting is a basic manipulations tactic that's quite common in many relationships. And I mean relationships as in ANY relationship, not husband-wife but also between friends and family. A ton of people probably aren't even aware that they are doing it. I think that people need to be aware of what it is and how frequent it is used to avoid people who use it maliciously.

DPRoukous

1y↑3

We live in amazing times.This manipulation has been suffered in silence for millenia.We have evolved as a people to point this out as a crime against humanity

Bob The dope man

2y↑49

I think I've been abused by my family for a looooonnnng time. I'm a 29 year old man. It sucks that I honestly can't do anything about it.

Raine63

2y↑8

What do you mean you "think."

Elviro

2y↑6

you think or you've been abused lol. there's no middle ground lol

Bob The dope man

2y↑15

What I mean is verbal abuse, manipulation, gaslighting. My family has never uplifted me. My parents go through a rough patch, it's my fault. My sister starts an argument, if I defend myself it's my fault. No accomplishment was ever good enough. I could be crying and not be able to get words out and I get chastised for not speaking. Any mistakes I make are like I've never done anything right. I can be unsure about what abuse can entail without people commenting like " wHaT dO yOu MeAn "ThInK" " it means I'm unsure. I'm so used to it for almost 30 years that it is normal.

Bob The dope man

2y↑7

An I apologize if I misinterpreted these replies as condescending... it just felt like I opened up and people take the opportunity to pick apart my words. Like I'm not intelligent enough because I'm unsure about abuse. I just don't know. Maybe I do just suck and the treatment I received all these years is well deserved.

Neil Britton

2y↑4

@Bob The dope man Are your parents religious? Families can be very controlling and give the feeling you can do nothing about it. But you can, if it doesn't feel right get away from them. Could take a while to build a life away from them, but sounds like it would be worth the effort. All the best!

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Laura Sparks

2y↑64

I believe this is a real phenomenon. Many different people do it for many reasons. It is not always sexual, but it is always about shame, fracturing of The Self, and grooming. It can be disguised as friendship. Suddenly, situations beyond control are commonplace. It can take years to figure out what really happened. Recognizing the pattern can help. Self-awareness is the most important factor. Remember to return to The Self and the Center. It can save lives and bring ourselves back to life!

Lisa Legato and the Noyz

2y↑8

But she was 19 when they started dating, turned 20. That's not a "child." Only children can be groomed.

David Kay

2y↑1

@Fluid Art Dreamer Trust it z term only applied to children cos they are impressionable but u don't know that do ya

24Wynn

2y↑7

@Lisa Legato and the Noyz I was engaged at 20 to an older man. I'm in my 50's now and have discovered that you are still naive to a lot of things. My abuser told me when I turned 24 that I was too old for him. Hilarious that he was 10 years older than me but he was a predator. He had sex with 13 year old girls making them think that they needed to be loyal to him and not tell their closest friends about it. Very sick man.

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Natalee VanOsdol

2y↑15

I been thru the exact same thing he was 43 I was 23 he stalked me for four years got what he wanted I had three little kids that weren't his my daughter hasn't spoke to me in 11 years she hates me she don't realize everything how he used drugs to brainwash me I was with him 20 years though so listening to this is a little hard I wish evan would get a hold of me I've been working on a book but I'm poverty level so what could ever come of it right but I have some very very interesting things I would like to share with her

ErikV300

52w

You were with him for 20 years?

Yeah that's on you.

Music Is Magic

2y↑330

Whoopi…I know you asked that question about isolating a survivor from their family in a kind way but…my family were my abusers I was isolated since the day I was born. Also, if you were born into this…how would I know differently. It has taken my entire life to learn and heal…and I am pretty old. 😪

Mirelle Fritz

2y↑13

Same.

Shay Bolts

2y↑14

I felt this

Spider Queen

2y↑22

I was in abusive relationship where I became isolated as everyone backed away from interacting with us. ERW was not. She was a movie star before she even met Manson, and she was surrounded by caring, protective people her entire relationship with him. She had money, power, lawyers, and the paparazzi following them everywhere. She completed four movies while with him. She was never isolated. She is stealing stories from people like us and telling them as her own.

Juls c

2y↑8

@Spider Queen I'm glad you're not in that relationship any longer. Stay 💪 💗💗💗

Michelle Sassouni

2y↑36

@Spider Queen I understand your need to feel heard, but I find it beyond inappropriate and just unconscionable that just because your situation may have been worse that you wouldn’t believe her. She even acknowledged her privilege and that it is much worse and more difficult for others, what more do you want? Would you rather her not be a voice for those who can’t or aren’t comfortable speaking up or do you just want to be the one telling your story on The View?.

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Bofh Zero Zero

2y↑4

There should be no need for exceptions to the statutes of limitations. Because there should be NO statute of limitations for rape, for domestic violence, for domestic abuse.

Blah

2y↑29

Also, the emotional abuse had far worse an impact on me in terms of long term issues. But, the sexual abuse was THE worst of it. It hurt, it made me feel awful, and it really made it difficult not to commit the s word. But I mean, I was raped all throughout the 4 years I was with someone. I still have long term issues from the SA, but it only affects my sex life.

Perhaps if the worst someone went through was emotional abuse, then they’d think that hurt worse.

Snoozy Q

2y↑4

Nope. I've been through sexual abuse and its not necessarily worse. Its not a ranked tier. Its more complex actually.

Joe Kopsick

2y↑2

Everyone experiences abuse differently. Someone who tricks you into thinking they loved you, will have victims who are more bothered by the emotional abuse than the physical abuse. But everyone's trauma is valid

kïtsune

1y↑1

Just because you experienced your abuse a certain way, doesn't mean someone else can't experience theirs a different way. I'm sorry for everything you went through, I really am..

but that last comment "perhaps if the worst someone went through was emotional abuse, then they'd think that hurt worse" comes off as very judgemental and honestly just sounds like you're ranking different kinds of abuse as if they're competing for what is worse. Everyone's abuse experiences are valid, and they are all painful in their own way. Let's try to be respectful of that.

Rea Robinson

2y↑29

I stayed with my abuser for 19 yrs! It took me a long time to get out. Still I fear I could go back if I don't keep up with therapy and with my support system.

Suzie B

2y↑1

🥺 I understand

Marilyn O

2y↑37

The Statute of Limitations in reporting assault / abuse by doctors has an even more PROFOUNDLY small window. Extremely sad.

james jay

2y↑66

All abusers have a pattern and yes you're never the only one usually
Absolute fact

chomp chomp

2y↑17

You don't even know if she's telling the truth.

Wishing B

2y↑8

@Mandy 0827 Her own interviews back then were all how wonderfully supportive he was and how he helped her gain confidence and grow creatively.

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c. k.

2y↑71

Narcissistic abuse is the same :(
They break u they shatter ur sense of self

Angela Holmes

So true 💯

IshtarBabylon🦉

Yess.. I suffer from dissociative disorder thanks to my ex abuser

Andrew Magee

2y↑1

She hasn't been abused. She's lying.

WetWhistlinWillyJohnson

2y↑2

She’s read up on it and just repeats it all to try and come off as genuine. She’s wrong in the head.

Erdem Memisyazici

Jason Murphree

2y↑3

Looking out for the flaws in a person is the division they cause in themselves.

A Rodenburg

2y↑1

what are you even talking about??

Brooke Schmidt

2y↑165

The fact that this is happening in the same timeframe as the Amber Heard trial is wild.

Lovely Hurlin

2y↑36

She was into it at the time, now she regrets it. Lawsuit.

Krystal215

2y↑9

This has been going on for years though

Frk nordstjerne

2y↑10

He's using the same tactic as Johnny, although Manson is guilty.

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Rebecca Swift

2y↑4

I'm a SA survivor and DV..I have PTSD..I never came fwd to report my exhusband because I felt embarrassed and ashamed..it took me 7 yrs to escape my ex with our 2 daughters who were 4 and 7 at the time..
The SA was when I was 16..my parents did report it but the cops shrugged it off because I had been dating him for over a yr..LE caused me to feel ashamed and dirty just like I felt right after the SA..so I do understand why some people don't come fwd to report being abused..
The SA was violent and painfully horrific..

Karen R

2y↑1

Sorry to hear this happened to you, tho am very glad you were finally able to get away. I don’t quite understand how the cops didn’t believe you or your parents when you were just 15-16yo, unless your ex was the same age? Tho they still could of stalked to him and his parents, if he was the same age and gave you an “out” at that time, if you wanted one or both sets of parents made you two separate. Yet it’s hard either way when that young. Big hugs to you and hope you & your kids are happier now.💜✌🏼🦋

selene smart

52w

She's rocking back and forth.

Dylan Wing

2y↑15

I was raped when I was 19. Still too afraid to tell people. My mom even said no one would believe me.

Shadamyfan 1923

2y↑3

I'm sorry to hear that

Jen Patel

2y↑9

I believe you.

Jav

2y↑1

Sending big hugs and well wishes 💕

paul cooper

It would be good to start the healing process by telling people.

Vanessa Toledo

2y↑240

Had I read some of the comments against Evan just a few years ago I would’ve never told on my abuser..

Mary Margaret

2y↑96

But would you impersonate an FBI agent and send out detailed lists of what to accuse him of to other women?

Vanessa Toledo

2y↑6

@Mary Margaret I presaved Harry’s new album have you?

P.T. D.

2y↑52

@Mary Margaret - I would do whatever it takes to stop an abuser. Wouldn’t you? BTW, those accusations against Evan Rachel Wood are totally false.

S A M A R A

2y↑34

Hateful comments 99%
Supportive comments 1%
W E Are Marilyn Manson fans & we hate her!

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Erin chill music

2y↑6

Part about statue of limitations…so true! Great point

Salma Caribbean

2y↑40

I admire this woman sharing her story, but I have 2 admit that having read MM lawsuit, it has me at odds. Also, the issue with her letting her son's dad see him... the FBI letter is never mentioned but was included in her hearings relating to custody..jum...

Anna Costello

2y↑23

She’s a sick malicious liar. Don’t let her innocent act fool you.

Natasha Gattis

2y↑13

She is friends with Amber Turd! Let that sink in!!! Once I heard that she lost all credibility in my eyes!!

Michelle

2y↑6

@Natasha Gattis Ridiculous of you tbh

Andrew Magee

2y↑9

ERW is a shameless liar. Hoping MM gets Justice. #StandByYourManson

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Duality Huntress

2y↑10

Evan's definition of grooming is only part of actual grooming. Actual grooming also involves purposeful wearing down of defenses, isolation, and maintenance of control. I would like to know more info on how Manson wore down her defenses and how he maintained control over her after the abuse, if he actually even tried? If he actually didn't, maybe she wasn't groomed per se? Not questioning whether she was abused at all here, just calling the "grooming" part into question.

Abuse awareness is important and I applaud Evan's efforts to spread awareness after the fact, but I wonder if she'd consider spreading education and awareness for teens BEFORE anyone has a chance to victimize them.

BEATINGU

2y↑31

shh! let the FBI agent talk! 😂

Erika Smith

2y↑2

Right?!!😂🤣🤣

Lommy

2y↑70

I have a friend who is in a manipulative relationship. He lost himself so much that he has no idea what is happening and that there is even any issue. Totally lost his independent thinking and needs, and is controlled by this vicious bullying woman who has ruined every aspect of his life.

AstroMartine

2y↑6

he needs to get out, asap. I know of a case who started like that and the woman abused her husband physically, throwing things at him, locking him inside the bedroom etc. the worse it gets, the harder it will be to get out.

Lommy

2y↑2

@AstroMartine I honestly think it woll only end when she passes away (she is 10 years older than him), and it will be too late. He will look backat his wasted life and be shocked.

Generic Citizen

2y↑2

I hope he gets out

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Cecelia M

2y↑29

The questions are insane. Her "it would take me 6 hours to tell you that" was a great response. How did they expect her to answer that gisnt question on a daytime talkshow?

Truther Talk

2y↑5

I love the fact that Evan said that it also happens to men. It does!

Absurdly Offensive

1y↑4

The term abuse gets thrown around numerous times, could someone define it?

thatMakeUpLife 88

"to kill the man behind the crowd, would be viewed as amateur" -manson

Jav

2y↑1

The underage comment was referring to being given alcohol (and drugs) by men twice her age. She was legal to consent for sex but may not have done if she was sober.

Leftatalbuquerque

2y↑102

There is no statute of limitations on abuse in Canada.

P.Jay89

2y↑15

Too bad this allegedly happened in the u.s. shes just after his wallet

Joni Heisenberg

2y↑25

There should not be a statue of limitations. She is correct that there should not be a set time frame for reporting abuse.

Jam K

2y↑14

@juan sempertegui If you're from America, you are in no position to talk. Canada is in the top five for safest country in the world and also in the top five for highest quality of life. I'm not even Canadian, mind you. (Danish here but I've lived in three provinces for about ten years.)

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Laura Buchanan

2y↑2

I'm finevan Rachel would believe a boy don't understand why no one else does. She seems like a compassionate person.

D M

2y↑175

Australia has no statute of limitations for crimes. That’s how it needs to be.

Srs Lee

2y↑6

Good thing no crimes were committed against her

Reta Felberg

2y↑4

Most crimes do need to have statutes of limitations I'd say murder is the only one that shouldn't.

Steve Edward

2y↑5

What if the accusations are totally false?

Steve Edward

2y↑7

So you could be 80 and someone accuses you of sex abuse that supposedly happened 70 year ago and they just remembered it thru years of psychotherapy but they are also cenile. So you go to jail. Think about no statutes then.

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Casey Flemming

2y↑2

Geeze she really doesn’t age

Andreja Russian

2y↑10

I would die to see The Behavioral Arts analyse this video!

Mystik Mermayde Aotearoa

1y↑1

Yes!!!

Andreja Russian

1y↑1

@Mystik Mermayde Aotearoa yes yes, i saw it then 🙂 this was my comment one month before this video came out! Fun thing to see 🤓

Andreja Russian

1y↑1

@Mystik Mermayde Aotearoa but thank you so much ☺️

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DieselMECh

1y↑1

How’d she end up in his circle? Why was she even seeing him?

Michael Lee

2y↑155

15 mins on this hot topic. LOVE that. For bigger topics, the View should allocate more time to discuss. Often, certain topics are left hanging because there's not enough time. Kudos to the View for providing more time on bigger topics. Moving forward, I like to see more time allocated to big topics.

Colden R.

2y↑21

You watch a video of serious accusations on the view, and believe it??

Michael Lee

2y↑8

If you don't, then you don't. That's your "view" isn't it? Why don't you put your view in your own comments section.

Colden R.

2y↑6

@Michael Lee what?

Michael Lee

2y↑8

@Colden R. You are free to post your own comments in your own section as opposed to replying to someone else’s comment. If you have something to say, then say it in your own comments section as opposed to a reply on someone else’s comments.

Michael Lee

2y↑5

No need to reply on someone else’s comments because this comment was complimenting on the time allocation for this topic. If you don’t agree, that’s your view and you should start a new comment as opposed to replying to a stranger’s comment. This is a compliment to the time allocation which is vastly different from arguing a point that affects people.

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Sara

2y↑83

I support all victims. It's sad that we can't in good faith take anyone's word for anything in this day and age - victim or abuser. I am interested to see how the trial plays out, since I just read Warner's lawsuit and there are some wild implications regarding Evan's actions and behavior, if proven true. As much as our justice system is flawed, I still would choose due process over the court of public opinion, any day.

Wishing B

2y↑25

Yeah, and his lawsuit has papers that would make her a criminal and if she really did use the false FBI papers in her own child support trial, that is enough where she should be in trouble.

MS. Emotions

2y↑8

@Wishing B big trouble.

WildWild Wild

2y↑9

It's just not just nowadays, it's always been. We're now just hearjng more and more about these horrors, including pedophile priests and all the other Predators.

WildWild Wild

2y↑17

@MS. Emotions I hear you. I agree that the main difference is that predator women are finally being called out too. It's been long overdue. Victims deserve protection no matter the gender. I'm with you for sure.

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song8777

2y↑53

I don't really get the "wolf in sheep's clothing" part. I've never seen MM where he didn't look like he was trying to look scary and on talk shows and in concert clips, he says the most shocking things I've ever heard. 👹😱

Betty Berova

2y↑16

You misinterpreted what she was saying- At that point She was speaking generally about how grooming works & the patterns not specifically about him.

In her documentary she specifically calls MM “Wolf in wolfs clothing” basically hiding in plain sight behind his alter ego- meaning that is who he truly is & not just hiding behind an “image”.

Whiskybrush

2y↑13

Except a great many amount of people consider Manson to be a Sheep in wolf's clothing. His public image and pseudo infamy was the magic ingredient to make a break in the music career. Typical 90's angst hysteria exploitation. This case seems to be about a lot of smoke and mirrors. She certainly appears more credible than AH, but the fake FBI letter, the stalker/assistant that totalled his car, the fact that Wood was very young and into a lifestyle that doesnt exactly lead to retaining memory... dunno

Gamer's Pitt

so wait, he realy is a wolf? like a werewolf?

Aleks Uher

He’s a wolf in wolf’s clothing.

paul cooper

1y↑1

@Gamer's Pitt He's a wolf in alice cooper's clothing.

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noush heravi

2y↑10

she sounds like amber heard. the body language.

margmc9

1y↑3

Thank you for being so very brave. I know your pain,

Kevin Mcnab

1y↑2

She's lying.

Amanda Scott

2y↑27

I think, as a woman, we ask what we can do differently? I think as a victim too, i can't teach my girl child how to control the actions of others. Society will not just change.

Infinite L00p

2y↑12

she is a liar

Titanium Quarrion

2y↑5

No but she can control her own actions like not accepting drugs and alcohol for starters while hanging around with a guy known to be on the fringe side of freaky for sexuality...

Amy Wilson

2y↑9

@Titanium Quarrion well that definitely gives him the right to abuse her then 🙄 foh

Titanium Quarrion

2y↑1

@Amy Wilson Congrats on showing us all what an intellectual giant you are. Feel free to show where I stated she had given him the right to abuse her? Your statement is also basless in that it again pre-supposes, with zero actual evidence or due process, thta he did abuse her. Well done Champ.

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Le Petit Lord

2y↑30

Would love a body language analysis of this interview

Jan Price

2y↑6

Me too.

rilenixx

2y↑7

Me three!

JK

2y↑3

I can give you an analysis. She’s fucking furious. As she should be.

Le Petit Lord

2y↑6

@JK she doesn’t look like it

L. P. Carter AIC, PhD

2y↑2

Oh my goodness yes!!!

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Shawndra Rush

2y↑227

To all those who have experienced abuse I hold my heart in my hand for you. You all always deserve better. You are amazing, incredible, beautiful and perfect.
There should be no statute of limitation on rape, abuse-physical or mental.

Igloo Zoo

2y↑8

Of course there should be statute of limitation. Without it, no one comes forward and you cannot gather evidence to convict 20 yrs later.

🌟Kimberly 🌻

2y↑7

As a survivor of sa,dv,I thank you from the bottom of my heart ❤ 💙 💜 💖

Jaime Banks

2y↑10

Thank you! I was raped as a child. I didn't tell anyone until recently. I was embarrassed. I now see so many support and defend abusers, and I'm appalled!

Jaime Banks

2y↑5

@🌟Kimberly 🌻 I am a survivor of abuse, too. We gotta stick together! ❤️

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Lil ray ray

2y↑4

He's moved on. You need to.

Alivia Blount

2y↑270

This is such an important conversation. I experienced rape as a minor and I told my family members but they didn’t believe me and didn’t know what to do. It’s shameful really that we don’t teach people how to deal with rape and abuse and grooming because these are real ways that men are sucking women in and taking advantage of them. It’s toxic and if we don’t teach the next generation of women what to do and how to handle it they won’t have a clue and will continue to suffer

Jack Sutter

2y↑57

Would be better if the conversation was had by someone other than ERW since she's a liar... #justsaying

Alivia Blount

2y↑11

@Jack Sutter more important that the conversation is starting

Nobody

2y↑23

Double standards perhaps? Abuse/rape happens with men, women & children sadly but that's just the dark reality we live in. Of course no one should ever go though that kind of experience but to always hear men being accused without being proven guilty or any evidence to back it up. I'm not saying her experienc with Manson in nonexistent, but it's a he said she said situation.

Jack Sutter

2y↑30

@Yogi literally every single thing she's said re: Marilyn Manson, and a lot of it is PROVABLY lies. What part do you think she ISN'T lying about? Genuinely curious.

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S.Scharlau

2y↑13

What did she mean by "I'm not doing this to clear my name?"

Alina

2y↑8

Like Amber did

cuteNADA1992

She meant that she is doing the documentary, activism, and speaking out to educate the people, support victims, and change laws. Not just for herself.

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Mea C

2y↑61

In the United States as of 1995, minor is generally legally defined as a person under the age of 18. However, in the context of alcohol or gambling laws, people under the age of 21 may also sometimes be referred to as minors.

Sasquatch Patrol

2y↑10

Legally defined as an a adult at 18 unless they want to convict a kid for a crime then suddenly they are mature enough to be judged as an adult

Max Power

2y↑25

The problem is victims don’t talk like this, activists do. She isn’t helping her case

Millsy Kooksy

Oh ok

Winona

She’s an effective activist because the subject and issue at hand is being discussed openly now.

Wren Engels

2y↑3

@Mae Beline Ehh, what ? She first met him at a party in 2005 when she was 18.

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Aimee Rice

2y↑111

Yes to everything she said and thank you for making it known that this is their shame, not ours.

Colden R.

2y↑24

No to everything she said. Please don't believe lies.

Aimee Rice

2y↑3

@Colden R. Blocking you. Your bake says it all. King internet troll.

Colden R.

2y↑13

@Aimee Rice Literally what 😂?

This is YouTube not Facebook grandpa.

Elle S

2y↑6

@Colden R. you go live with Brian Manson for about a year then report back to us.

David Kay

2y↑7

@Elle S I be alive and well and unharmed it b a party lol not a conspiracy like erw company wud b lol

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Brenna Bushey

2y↑185

I was groomed and kidnapped by my abuser and I’ve never related to someone so much as when I hear her talk about how the grooming process and abuse cycle fractures your sense of self and ability to remember. It’s actually demonic this cycle. But the light prevails ultimately.

David Kay

2y↑3

Hers my case I was told no to steel but I did it anyway now I'm caught and I'm suing the cops that's How's she's thought this up

Elleigh Starr

2y↑5

Beautifuly said❤. . . sending Love & Strength your way!!!

David Kay

2y↑7

Urs maby true buts erws is definitely false

David Kay

2y↑14

@Elleigh Starr yes but erw is lying

Brenna Bushey

2y↑15

@David Kay she understands things that only a survivor would understand and I am not influenced by anyone else’s opinion.

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Danny

1y↑5

When you gotta explain what grooming is in the 1st few minutes you know you've lost.

Rogério Sousa

2y↑1

She is so strong
Great human, woman ❤️

Andrew Magee

2y↑2

She's a liar.

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James Bowling

2y↑3

hard for me to believe anyone when ur suppose to believe them all regardless, seen to many use it as a weapon at this point.

Hendrikje5

2y↑117

Sexual abuse is a serious serious problem. I have worked with both men and women to try get through the trauma. I have also worked with people that have been falsely accused. People that lost everything because of lies.
I also strongly believe in the innocent until proven guilty thing.
Believe all victims ? Nope. Not a good idea.

Caro Peter

2y↑10

well said

Sacrosanct Harlot

2y↑19

We should be saying "take all accusations seriously" means close to the same thing without making the assumption that all accusations are true while not downplaying abuse.

Dubhthaigh Mehen

2y↑9

@Sacrosanct Harlot that still wouldn’t have helped protect me from my abusers false accusations. That’s also very tough when both parties claim abuse, as was the case with what happened with my Rapist. I confronted them & informed them that I was taking action & planned to expose them, by the time I got home police were waiting for me/false accusations were made online/nobody ever heard me when I spoke. To this very day.

So ideally, I’d love it if they were possible, unfortunately in order to take my real claims of abuse seriously you’d have to somewhat dismiss the false ones made against me first. Ppl don’t appear to be capable of that. Even after my defamation case was won in court & I proved the evidence they claimed to have was false. The damage to my reputation was done & my career has been over for 7 years.

“Believe all” isn’t really possible. We need to stop our community from behaving fanatically. From ignoring the things the accused expose after accusations are made. This woman isn’t credible anymore from where I am sitting. This is based on following court proceedings closely & the difference between Manson’s provided evidence & her own that doesn’t seem to actually exist. She’s gaslighting with this doc & I am amazed anyone is taking her seriously anymore. I hope he wins his lawsuit & HBO pay dearly got setting survivors back with this misstep.

Twinkle Toes

2y↑7

@Dubhthaigh Mehen that’s exactly what happened to Johnny Depp when his abuser, Amber Heard, publicly accused him of abuse!! He’s still fighting to have his claims of abuse believed and fight the fake accusations against him and he’d super rich! So sad. I’m sorry you went through that!! ❤️❤️

Kyla Armstrong-Benjamin

2y↑1

@Sacrosanct Harlot well said!!!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

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Sugar And Spice

2y↑13

"The suicide attemp is another way of escape." Yes it is. When you feel trapped and like you are powerless and your back is up against the wall, you consider that dying is one way to make the suffering stop. It is trauma, and it messes you up. As she said, you are not yourself, you forget who you really are, because this person has been emotionally manipulating your reality, shaping your perception, and forcing their narrative on you. I don't now much about the case, or the court ruling if there was one, but I can feel she is still very nervous talking about it, though she clearly wants to. She is feeling what she is saying, and her words are triggering if you have ever really been abused and subjugated to the degreee she speaks of. I know that Brian wrote a book where he brags for several pages about the sadistic actions he relished in towards other human beings in his life. He also admitted to calling her over 150 times in one day after she broke up with him, as well as saying that he fantasized about bashing her head in. She must be either very brave to decide to expose him, considering his hard core followers will defend him reagardless, or she is indeed crazy for soing so. He is powerful and wealthy, he has powerful individuals working for him. I am amazed at how many people doubt her and point their finger at her but continue to defend him. Victim blaming is real.

Sugar And Spice

@Natasha Fitness Made Fun it's not over yet. Falsifying anything doesn't sit well with me either, but is there any actual proof either way? Did the FBI confirm or deny said document?

Sabbi Moriarty

All what you describe would also fit to a person who’s telling publicly lies. Filing for court - ok, it has to be in the justice system if there was any of the claimed. Doing a press tour while the court is preparing - absolutely red flag, no go! It seems to me, this pr tours are made to get their sayings in the head of the people, not even evidence is necessary. How many people will read the headlines which are stated at facts but at the moment are just accusations with the status of being a rumour.

Lisa LeGrand

Fictional book

Wishing B

Brian Warner wrote a fictional book about Marilyn Manson who is a character. It was a PR stunt and his agent made him make it spicier. There were people watching Evan in that scene with Brian and both of them were wearing underwear and they were constantly stopping the shooting to discuss the scene and Evan was not drunk. Vanessa shared one of the Polaroids. She watched the whole thing and kept joking with Evan who was not drugged out. Evan was really excited about the video and was worried about how her breasts looked on camera and things like that. She was not nude. She had a bra and panties on.

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Covenator 1

2y↑51

There some serious question in Manson’s lawsuit against her and Illma Gore need to answer. Im eager to see this trial to the evidence, which some was already provided in the lawsuit brief.

Tim Marshall

2y↑9

100 percent. I've loathed Manson for over 22 years and a big part of me would love to have an excuse for his weird acting self to be out of my sight but I need to put that to the side
Id encourage everyone to do the same.
ERW was in a serious relationship before Manson and went back to it after Manson, she married , had a kid, split from that guy and used the notion MM is after her and wants sex with her kid to say she needs to take the kid away from her husband.

Ruby Buttons

2y↑1

I want to see this trial too. MM has always been a creepy dude and I always felt he just made that part of his ‘image,’ to normalise his behaviour. I remember being a teen at one of his gigs, and later a festival, where there were whispers he was inviting young women back stage to ‘meet him.’
Of course that is hearsay but I felt like it always had an element of truth to it. This trial will be interesting in deed.

Yan0132

2y↑17

@Ruby Buttons he invited alot of young fans backstage. Alot of them with their parents. He invited sick children too and gave them gifts. But you won't hear about that in the media because he doesn't film himself for others to see

sapphireblue

2y↑8

@Yan0132 they won't even believe that because it doesn't fit their narrative.

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swedish twiggle

1y↑4

She doesn’t make much eye contact. She’s so sussy

Angel Tull

2y↑21

Shame make you take the entirety of the guilt upon yourself when you are a teen. The burden of shame belongs on the actual adult abuser. How can we shift the blame?

Lisa Moura

2y↑5

Unfortunately I think most abusers are within the psychopath spectrum (narcissism, sociopath... etc), which makes them basically unable to empathise and therefore to feel shame for the pain inflicted. It sucks...

Hailey Walker

2y↑3

She wasn't a minor she was 19

24Wynn

@Hailey Walker That's still very young. Impressionable.

margi cates

Shame is often something feel when we aren’t allowed to feel anger, it turns inward and corrodes the spirit.
Also vise versa people get angry when they should feel ashamed, (anti maskers is a great example.)

Healthy expressions of anger is the first step to untangling shame.

Experience Florida With Julie

1y↑3

Well Whoopie’s shirt says it all: Nope.

Steve Edward

2y↑8

How much was her counseling involved with all of this?

M F

2y↑21

We are aware why an abuser doesn't leave, because no one cares to leave power. They only leave when they either find someone weaker than the one they have or you finally decide to love yourself enough to leave.

Jenna Tucker

This is very well said. I loved her point about culture change. She had to go very fast, but it would be worth a longer conversation about what would actually work.

David Kay

Ermm were on about victims leaving not abusers now that is definitely a stupid comment

Kristi Meyer

Nailed it 💜😔

David Kay

@Jenna Tucker what men can b abused too is that the change she's on about

Max Frank

2y↑65

She literally said that Marilyn Manson is the epitome of a wolf in sheep's clothing. 😭

Sun Flower

2y↑37

I don't know what universe she lives in but he literally looks more wolfish than sheepish. just sayin.

Alexis and Bill Clerico

2y↑47

Read Evan's interviews while her and Manson were together. She said that the filming of his video, "Heart Shaped Glasses" was the most romantic experience of her life. She's irrelevant now and hasn't had a great acting role since Across the Universe. She's obviously doing this to get in the spotlight again.

Alexis and Bill Clerico

2y↑24

@Sun Flower good to know that you're judging him by his appearance.

Sun Flower

2y↑4

@Alexis and Bill Clerico Just calling it like I see him. When I dressed like he did, all people saw was wolf so I speak from experience.

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The Manic Candice Podcast Clips

2y↑4

How can you be groomed as an adult

Amber V

It's only once you heal and learn what being treated right and good is like that you realize how fully wrong that part relationship was 💔❤️‍🩹

Falar de Música é Legal

2y↑118

I'm a man who grew up watching this happening to amazing women around me and I've seen the psychological consequences, and now that time passed, there is nothing to be done about it.
But I feel happy that it's really being discussed right now. We should break this freaking cycle of believing in men no matter what, you know...
I mean... most of the time, there are shreds of evidence everywhere. But we are somehow afraid to look at them, on purpose! It pisses me off so much.

DJ WALKER Female DJ

2y↑17

Man get groomed to

Raine63

2y↑1

I am a lucky person because I had a wonderful father and never experienced anything like like this. I was brought up with enough self confidence confidence to tell someone immediately on immediately by filing a police report

Nn Uu

2y↑12

@DJ WALKER Female DJ no one says they don't but right now we're talking about women and the violence committed against them. Men who experience that deserve to have their own section where it's discussed properly and with respect, they don't deserve to only be brought up as a way divert attention from women who suffered.

Niccole A

2y↑16

I don’t believe anything she’s saying. She’s too intelligent to pretend to be so gullible.
She knew who Manson was before getting involved with him. He didn’t GROOM her, therefore I question everything else. Just be truthful

Niccole A

2y↑16

@Nn Uu Manson and his reputation is written all over his face, his preference, his career…she knew who he was, a little wild, drugs & sex and yet she presents herself as being innocent, naive and being groomed like she’s a child. Give me a story I can believe because this is ridiculous.
If she starts off with a lie, I can’t believe anything else. She obviously has a problem with the truth about herself and why she hooked up with him, bc it doesn’t help create the story she’s selling. Her sweet an innocent taken by a monster.
Amber Turd just tried this same bs.

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Ongoing Awakening

2y↑6

Where’d she go all the sudden since Manson’s lawsuit.

pink pearl

2y↑30

Wasn't Rose McGowan engaged to Manson? McGowan is such an outspoken activist on the Me Too movement and SA support. Does anyone know if Rose has ever spoken out for or against MM?? It would stand to reason that he would have abused her too, if he is a serial abuser? I'm not judging either side just wondering.

Shadamyfan 1923

2y↑28

She said that he was never abusive and described him as caring (she even nicknamed him "doctor"). However, she (unfortunately) sided with Evan, for whatever reason.

CriminyCricket

2y↑32

His ex wife Dita Von Teese also gave a statement saying he was never abusive to her.

Jay Cee

2y↑26

@CriminyCricket Just because he wasn’t abusive in other relationships doesn’t automatically mean he didn’t abuse her. Abuse is often an element of a relationship with a drastic power imbalance. Perhaps it existed in this relationship but not int the others.

jack chop

2y↑10

She said they broke up because she was doing too much cocaine on the Andy Cohen show a few years ago. She also said that he wasn't like that with her but that she supported Evan coming forward. She'll likely take it back if she's proven to be a liar.

Sweet Willow

2y↑7

Rose said that she never experienced any abuse while she was with Manson, but that she supports victims and of course would support Evan if this is true

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A J

2y↑5

Thank you for talking about this. Thank you for your advocacy work.

Covenator 1

2y↑4

Her and Illma Gore started that “charity”, which Illma Gore wrote that she did this to make money for herself

Stephanie Dawson

2y↑6

I cant wait to see this trial hopefully it will be aired

xxwhispersxx

2y↑1

That trial never should have been aired and hopefully Evan's won't either.

RedsMyFavoriteColor

2y↑3

@xxwhispersxx Why not? Showed a great trial and legal process and exposed a bunch of liars and drug addicts.

Lair of Horrors

1y↑3

Wow this is turning out to have aged badly 😳

Vanessa McKibben

2y↑10

I know nothing about either of these ppl. Yes I know who Marilyn Mason is but I only know he’s made a career out of being weird, disturbed even. I’m going to have to watch the trial (if it streams) before I make a decision. It’s horrible if it’s true but also horrible if it is not ( meaning: she might be an AH).

Aspen Rose

2y↑2

I think she's an AH!

Adrienne M

2y↑6

I believe he's happily married weirdo. You just are able to make MM a target bcuz he dresses different, so he can be scapegoat for the whole country's wrongs...

skybaby

2y↑130

It’s easy to forget who you are at 18 because you don’t know in the first place.

TheRealQuaid1

2y↑35

She still struggles now. Only last year she thought she was an FBI agent.

Colden R.

2y↑5

@TheRealQuaid1 Omg 😂😂

Sonja L.

2y↑11

and this is why abusers target young people.

Alexis and Bill Clerico

2y↑5

Is that an excuse for her sleeping with a married man, flaunting it everywhere and then lying about him and trying to ruin him over a decade later? He's not innocent, but she definitely isn't either.

Wild Hearts

2y↑16

@Alexis and Bill Clerico 18 is still a kid. Let’s be honest. Marilyn was clearly grooming her. Even if she wasn’t a saint that doesn’t give a pass for abuse. There are no “perfect victims”

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Alise Walsh

2y↑1

This is amazing.

Elle SP

2y↑172

As a survivor I don’t want to say don’t believe, rather listen but verify. Those who selfishly make false allegations harm real victims & put them in serious danger. If false accusations received the same penalty as the defendant would if found guilty, it would stop the majority of false accusations. Just as abuse destroys lives so does feigning it.

Lola Twinkle

2y↑53

TOTALLY!!! I AM FURIOUS about this. Between ERW and Amber Heard, the campaign to help real victims has been extremely damaged.

Braxton Grundy

2y↑12

Facts

Regina Fris

2y↑15

As a survivor, I agree. We can't make the legal progress necessary without verification.

Lola Twinkle

2y↑11

@Richard Knows Maybe we should end the war on drugs and start punishing those who actually hurt others...at least marijuana and ecstasy....and free up the muscle needed. You do know that every rape case that doesn't result in a conviction isn't necessarily a faker though right? Rape can be very hard to prove and rapists DO walk free.

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Kelsey L

2y↑6

"I'm very confident that I have the truth on my side"? You either do or you don't... lol!

Skye Boughman

2y↑20

Thank you. I watched the documentary today and your strength has inspired me. I don’t know if I’m ready to name but I feel closer to it than ever before.

Jack Sutter

2y↑7

She's a liar, so...
not very inspiring.

HipChicaGal

2y↑4

Skye Baughman,
me too. I encourage you to "name". Please! For yourself mostly (because you are worthy), and for the collective good of future generations. What have you got to lose? Your dignity, and more, was stolen. Fight, my friend, fight!

HipChicaGal

2y↑4

@Jack Sutter were you there???

Jack Sutter

2y↑2

@HipChicaGal were YOU there? 😜👌

HipChicaGal

2y↑1

@Jack Sutter so we're even. 🤪

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Elise D

2y↑12

It's so sad there's a statute of limitations for this. I'm in the Netherlands, and for assault it's 12 years, for rape, unlimited time to report it and start a case.

Diane F.

2y↑2

Very progressive in the Netherlands then. There should never be any statute of limitations anywhere in the world.

Maggie Kennedy

2y↑30

Did she really just describe him as a wolf in sheep's clothing?

Mirelle Fritz

2y↑12

Maybe she meant a sheep in wolf's clothing!!

Nd O

2y↑4

Whats wrong with that?

Timeless14

2y↑18

@Nd O he's more of a wolf in wolf's clothing imo 😅

E Campbell

2y↑13

😂😂right? Werewolf in wolf’s clothing Maybe

expectopatronum28

2y↑4

No, she said 'groomers' are wolves in sheep's clothing.

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LaLa H

2y↑99

Keep fighting. You are not your trauma.
Some of the other comments on here show a real lack of knowledge and a culture of denial. People need to know that the human brain is not fully functioning (or done accruing neural pathways that will be set for future responses in life) until the age of around 27.
Knowledge is power.

James Cese

2y↑2

I thought it was 25.

Laura Manjarrez Ruiz

Right but that's is still not excuse to use your voice and rights and whatever lower you ah e to say something. No excuse if I was being under any of that I will speak up regardless who it is I'm sorry but that's the truth and you were living your life as if nothing happened like you gotta be more stupid than that to do something. And yet she speaks about women to say something or to be in an organization of victims form abuse is stuff like she should be thrown out like if you gonna become someone to vocalize please set better examples. She is just looking for something ok like enough

Holly Alfieri

2y↑14

Look this chic is lying she's not matter of fact she's says um in every sentence psychological characteristics that prove someone is lying consumes her.

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Violet

49w

In his defense, he spent 2 decades showing the world he was an insane genius and a super villain. When was he ever betrayed as a sheep? Regret doesn't in any way equal assault...

Marlene Btagelman

I would love to be able to help women who are going through what I have gone through. But how?

In It To Spin It

2y↑132

Evidence in a court of law is what I'm waiting for prior to judgment.

Dom

2y↑24

Something happened to me when I was a kid. I never even spoke of it until maybe a decade after the fact. I have no evidence of it. But I remember clear as day and it affected me for many years to come. I didn't process how much it affected me until I was adult and I broke down crying in my car.

I say that to say, listen to what she said. Statute of limitations. The way the brain processes trauma. Sometimes by the time you realize what has happened to you or what was taken from you, you're passed that statute or you may not have evidence other than your word. I promise you I can't prove what happened to me. But I promise you I'm not lying.

User Friendly

2y↑21

@Dom
Unfortunately, court cases can’t be about promises. We need evidence. Even if it’s evidence of prior acts. Or someone after her.

Dom

2y↑16

@User Friendly and that's why a lot of victims don't report their abuses. Did you watch the video? Lol. Rape and sexual abuse is the most under reported crime. Seriously actually watch the segment.

User Friendly

2y↑13

@Dom
I don’t have to watch the video to know that. I already do. But I’m obviously not the type just to take someone’s word for it. I will listen. I will help if I can.
But if there’s no evidence, there’s no evidence.

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Marie-Renée MOULEN

How did she book this job at 19? Where were her parents? How was she allowed by them to take this job? and even audition?

B Z

2y↑10

The big difference here is that the average gal who isn't a celebrity won't get this kind of public airtime

Jennifer Chandler

2y↑4

And she acknowledges her privilege. She stated she’s using her privilege for other non celebrity survivors.

Tina Giordanella

2y↑3

Yes and she did acknowledge that wholeheartedly at the end of the interview.

Mae Beline

2y↑1

Which is why she's going so hard.

NikName

2y↑25

I can't wait until her and Illma are sitting in front of a jury and trying to explain all of this.
Wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people would still worship her.

Delaney 🌸

2y↑16

I’m a survivor I definitely believe you and I’m so sorry 🖤💜💜

Andrew Magee

2y↑3

😂😂😂😂😂

Sjögel Miihels

This sht is like sueing ur mom or dad for spanking you because they did it to you like 20-30+ years when it was normal.

Karen R

2y↑34

Sorry, no matter what, it’s still INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.
Sorry, Evan Rachel Wood stated she was 18-19 when she met Marilyn Manson, then states she was underage when she did the video in 2007 AND according to her birthdate, she would of been 19yrs old. That is an adult age not a young teenager as she is describing herself on here, plus she had already been in.
Evan met British actor, Jamie Bell in 2005 and they begun a relationship shortly after meeting on Green Day’s video, Wake Me Up When September Ends. She met Manson at a party when she was 18 & still dating Bell and Manson, then 36, was married. Shortly thereafter she broke it off w/Bell and started dating Manson. It lasted a year, as she couldn’t handle the negative press about breaking up Manson & his wife.. She then went on to date women and said “I’m like a man when it comes to women. I’m the dominant one”, she has stated.
Seems like she reconciled w/Manson then would break it off all in the same year: 2008 on then off to pursue one’s career projects. Back on in 2009 & by Dec2009 they get engaged. In 2010, they call it quit w/ her stating “we’re just not right for each other”.
In 2011 Rebounds back to Jamie Bell, whom she married in 2012 & share custody son, Jack,born in 2013. The pair separated in 2014 and as of Jan 2022, Jamie Bell now married to Kate Mara, is still seeking sole custody of his son. And was stated to have said in 2021, he was blindsided by The Phoenix Rising documentary.
All I know is, I’m not too sure about either, so let’s see it in court!! Cuz don’t get why if her story is true, why did she posed as a FBI agent even making a false report (the FBI stated the person on the fake report was not an FBI agent), why have one of your supporters call the police to get Manson’s house swatted and nothing of evidence was found? Lots of questions!!

Azraa Holloway

Karen……the term teenage is anything with a teen at the end lol…eighteen, nineteen….it’s 2 years outside of being a high school, an underage child. Just because society deems “18” as adults and it just isn’t 🤷🏽‍♀️

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The Monopoly Troll

1y↑6

Oh this aged like wine.

Eddie Dot

2y↑9

I don't believe her, i never did. You should check Colonel Kurtz. She interviewed many different people who were connected to Marylin Manson and her, at the time, who have a very different point of view of the situation.

Mystik Mermayde Aotearoa

Another 2 perspectives on this... https://youtu.be/-t-1wygFTWs

https://youtu.be/DKAyyu_Ra8I

Muirmaiden

Never mind that Manson admitted to threatening women with physical and sexual assault in his autobiography.

S M

2y↑7

1:30 18 and 37 ??? oh my god. You know, I really wish that female victims of abuse encouraged men to come forward with their own experiences rather than the latter seeing them as a threat or liars.

Ambrose ghost

2y↑6

You do realise 18 is the age of consent right?

franky four fingers

@Ambrose ghost you do realize the age of consent is different everywhere, right? also, just because someone is at the age of consent doesn't mean consent is just automatically given 😂

Ambrose ghost

2y↑5

@franky four fingers Both him and her where living in USA. There 18 is the age of consent. I also never said that. Ofc consent has to be given. I’m just saying she is not a minor if she consented the sex acts wouldn’t be illegal. Also just letting you know the charges on Marilyn Manson have recently been dropped due to lack of evidence and fake letters being written reporting him.

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Megan Pell

2y↑67

in the beginning when she was explaining the feeling and the power of being believed, it reminded me of taylor swifts talk during one of her tours (the clip is in miss americana) she talks about her sexual assault case and how the jury believed her. and she talked about all the people who aren’t believed. it just shows how important it is to support and believe victims.

Charles LUCAS

2y↑21

When they are proven real victims.
Diffamation is a danger for society.

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Dmh

2y↑7

Weird that Dita Von was married to him for 7 years and says there was nothing like this in their relationship. Then he sued Wood for this.

Mia I

2y↑2

She declined to be drawn in. She never said that this didn’t happen

Humanimal

2y↑4

Dita did leave him.
Citing his addictions, and infidelity.

Mia I

2y↑1

@Humanimal Yes she did. The way she cited her reasons were enough. She didn’t want to be drawn in.

Dmh

2y↑2

@Mia I she did said there was nothing like this in the relationship.

TabS Stone

2y↑6

My sense of humor got stronger... darker, at least lol

Trevor Tenentes

2y↑89

What does Rose McGowan say? She was with him in the late 90s and she basically started the Me Too movement. I haven’t heard her take about this but not sure if I just missed it.

Shadamyfan 1923

2y↑51

She said he wasn't abusive to her, but sided with Evan because I don't know

Smittenkitten

2y↑46

She always praised him and even wrote in her book about how sweet he is and that he didn’t do anything to her but chose to side with Evan for no reason

Lola Twinkle

2y↑52

She hasn't actually sided with Evan but has said he never treated her like this. Same with Dita. Same with all the women Colonel Kurtz has interviewed.

Tracy Louise

2y↑32

Dita von Teese said nothing either.If you watch Colonal Curtz you tube videos she speaks to many of MMs past gfs who tell a completely different side to this BS

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Lil ray ray

2y↑2

Why would he leave his house???

moret25

2y↑50

Listen to Greta Aurora's story, that's all I can say about this situation

Chad Chaddingston

2y↑2

Yeah then they'd know that it didn't disprove anything.

NikName

2y↑3

@Chad Chaddingston Evan used Greta for her accusations

Svetoslava Georgieva

2y↑3

The truth gonna come...i hope! And even if he has done those things they are doing it so fake! I believe he hasn't...i think they mocked at the real victims of abuse! MY OPINION!!!

Dog?

Right! A real victim wouldn’t need to lie about another persons story

randall porter

2y↑2

The view should do more of these type of shows and stay out of political talk. Because they are more relatable When they talk about subjects that don’t make them so hated.