Founded in 1989, this Japanese band only has two members, Chako and Makoto … Read Full Bio ↴Founded in 1989, this Japanese band only has two members, Chako and Makoto Hattori. They've been married since 1992. While Makoto remains mostly behind the scenes handling technical aspects of the music, Chako is a visual spectacle of wild or spikey hair, flowing priestess gowns, strange talismans and heavy, morbidly styled makeup.
Japan's Jack or Jive create lush, dark and disturbing music that straddles the line between ritual, new age and experimental electronics music. Singer songwriter Chako has a one of a kind voice, strident and angelic at once. Like Elizabeth Fraser of Cocteau Twins, she sings in a private language. Her compositions can be classically influenced or influenced by the culture of her birth, and her melodies are haunting.
Japan's Jack or Jive create lush, dark and disturbing music that straddles the line between ritual, new age and experimental electronics music. Singer songwriter Chako has a one of a kind voice, strident and angelic at once. Like Elizabeth Fraser of Cocteau Twins, she sings in a private language. Her compositions can be classically influenced or influenced by the culture of her birth, and her melodies are haunting.
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@NicholasGM78
As a lifelong fighter, trained extensively in multiple disciplines - from Judo, to Jiujitsu, to Tang Soo Do, to Tae Kwon Do, and others of varying utility - something important that the casual observer will likely miss - and that clip of Segal "blocking kicks" is a perfect example - is that during that Hollywood fight, the man fighting Segal isn't attacking him. He's attacking the air in front of him, and an established guard range that's been set before the scene, keeping everything light and up in front of him to easily knock away.
As well, no one throws those rapid, high, semi-pivot kicks in a real fight. At best, that's mildly effective in a competition fight where the concern is running up points in a match where points aren't the end of a round, and are slated at 2-3 minutes per round, usually in a two-to-three round format.
As well, we can make the "hard" or "direct" art versus "soft" or "passive" art argument all day long. I have never seen any distinction, when trained by a competent Master or Grandmaster, that sets defensive efficacy of most arts apart from one another. It tends to come down to training, conditioning, and the wisdom and skill of the teacher. I learned Tang Soo Do-derived Tae Kwon Do from Grandmaster Seon Kook Kim, one of the greatest practitioners of the art ever to live. If I got into a fight, even defending myself, I would be "punished," because he believed I should have been disciplined, thoughtful, and resourceful enough to advocate for or provide myself with a more favorable outcome, that didn't devolve into violence.
That said, the punishment wasn't punishment: it was training and conditioning. I thought, at the time, I was being punished for using the art as intended, but I wasn't. I was being reigned in, to be more thoughtful about the situations in which I found myself, and was being conditioned to weather any fighter of any skill level, and make me indomitable. My Yomsobonim didn't punish me, he knew my character, and that I wasn't the type to walk away from something unjust, particularly involving violence, and so he made me as hard as he could, making me stronger.
Steven Segal may be a legitimate Master of Aikido. As someone who never bothered getting a black belt in any art, I have wiped the floor with Masters, and it wasn't even close. I've also been in hundreds of sparring matches, dedicated years of my life to training and conditioning - both physically and mentally - been in at least as many street fights or street level altercations, and trained with and served as a U.S. Marine.
Controlling my environment became more my focus over time. I don't fight unless I'm left with no other choice. I know what I can do to a man, and have done, and if I never have to raise my hands in violence to another human again for as long as I live, it will be too soon.
Part of the reason we train isn't just to be physically prepared for battle, but also to mentally be such. There is no less art to mental martial discipline, and the mastery of one's thoughts, emotions, and self, than there is to the physical side of it. It's about self-exploration, self-actualization, and self-improvement.
Segal appears to not have learned any of the most important lessons. I have known men like him, all my life. Michael Jai White probably should have more class than to say the things he's said, as well, and he appears to have enough discipline to know better. If someone asks me, "Could you kill someone?," my first thought is, "I guess that will be between me and that person, won't it?" If someone asks me what I think of Segal, I'll say, "He's dedicated a lot of time to building himself into what he's become. Take that to mean anything you like."
I don't think much of Segal. Mostly because I don't think of him at all, when I think of warriors. Michael Jai White has incredible talent, power, conditioning, and is a precise fighter, who mostly keeps himself out of the public eye, for his relative level of fame. Of course, I learned to read people's mannerisms and movements - as subtle as them walking across a room, or how they move or make eye contact during conversation - a very long time ago, and have continued to refine that skill set over time.
There is no question in my mind: if you put Michael Jai White up against Segal, it would last about ten seconds, if that, even if both of them were in their prime.
The relative gap in strength, conditioning, and overall cross-training in martial disciplines is simply too great. Michael Jai White hits him once, maybe twice, and Segal goes to sleep.
That's my assessment, in a nutshell. I would feel fighting Segal, myself, would provide almost no challenge. Full stop. Michael Jai White, however, could pose an actual threat, if I were off point defensively. Kicks, particularly one as devastating as a side-kick or slip side-kick, are difficult to mitigate, even if you train against it every day, for years. Legs are incredibly powerful, on an entirely different scale than that of hand strikes.
If a punch can knock someone out, a kick can erase their memory of the last few weeks upon regaining consciousness. I've seen it happen.
And Michael Jai White won't be kicking the air in front of Segal. He'll be aiming to put a foot right through him, because any well-trained practitioner of the arts doesn't aim for their target, they aim beyond it. And, from what I can see, he chooses his target the same way I do: he visualizes a point infinitely beyond his target, and uncoils himself.
Artists like that aren't fighting you, they're attempting to push you into The Void.
@nicholaswildman2782
I've seen a lot of the criticism of Aikido and it's effectiveness but one thing people don't often take into account is that most Japanese martial arts weren't designed for martial artist verses martial artist. They were designed for self defense against untrained / regular people. This is why Aikido typically doesn't translate to MMA because it wasn't designed for that.
The same applies to traditional karate, it was not designed for competition. For those who would point out Lyoto Machida - yes, he managed to translate karate to MMA but if you look at the stances etc that he uses, he has taken sport karate and used aspects of it it be successful i.e. precision, timing, efficient movement but it looks nothing like traditional karate. Whenever people like Joe Rogan criticise these arts it's because they don't understand them and are looking at it from an MMA perspective. Aikido and karate are extremely effective but for the purposes for which they were designed. What most people see of karate is a bastardised version where the vast majority of its effectiveness has been stripped so it could be introduced to schools as a sport i.e. shotokan. That isn't to say that shotokan can't be effective but I studied it for years and most of the effective stuff came from my own research because that just isn't taught due to it being primarily a sport.
Judo is effective in MMA because it was designed as a sport, it is an off-shoot of Ju-jitsu which was specifically designed for introduction to Japanese schools as a sport i.e. from its inception in was meant for martial artist vs martial artist.
Real fighting is not the same as MMA which is done in a ring / octagon with rules and where both fighters are trained. You can't judge all martial arts in the realm of competition because most of them were just not designed for it.
In terms of who would win between Michael Jai White and Steven Segal? I would say Michael Jai White and not because Aikido isn't effective, it's the fact that Michael Jai White isn't a delusional egotistical idiot and he actually knows what he's doing / talking about. Segal has proven to be one of be biggest liars and sexual deviants in hollywood so even if you believe most of the things he's said he's done most are probably lies.
@rileylucky6276
Actually, they are two different kinds of martial artists. I think Michael Jai White is a hard style. I studied Kyokushinkai under Master Higashi while at John Jay College. Kyokushinkai practice full contact (80 percent) power during regular practice. As far as Segal, he is a soft stylist with mixed roots. AIKIDO is striped down Jiu-Jitsu.
As far as a fight is concerned, in a real fight it is a matter of:
1) how well you have trained,
2) how hard you have trained
3) Environmental Factors:
- Indoor or outdoor
- weather; hot, cold, rain, sunny, snow, windy
How the fighter feels: sick, healthy
Motivation to win or survive.
Lucky Riley,
8th Dan, Grandmaster
@nooneyouknowof
Seagal also studies a modified form of Aikido called Tenshin, which is more aggressive and practical than Ubeyashi's original peaceful style.
Seagal may not be ripped like Michael, but that doesn't mean he's not strong either.
In that same joke of a cop show, I saw one episode of him holding back attack dogs, by their collar ( one in each hand) as he gave the kill command... that's no joke strength.
However, if Michael can make the fight last long enough, then Seagal's diabetes will start to kick in, and then he'll just lose consciousness anyways 😬
As far as Michael talking about him winning against Bruce, because of his weight difference, he should actually watch the original ufc fighting with no weight classes or rounds, and where if you won, you kept fighting the same night.
Then he would see that weight advantage doesn't mean automatic winning nor that the smaller guy can't generate enough power in their striking to do anything significant against a bigger guy🤔
Sorry Michael, with that comment, you lost all credibility as a guy who knows about actual fighting, and Bruce Lee( whom according to Dan Inosanto) could knock people out with a jab, yet when he got serious was a slugger) that little chinese guy would mop the floor with you.
To sum up, even though Seagal is shady, and a pathological liar, I think he'd win even now because he has real skill, and mastery with Aikido, and all he needs is one of Michael's fingers ( no front kicks required)
As long as his cardio/diabetes doesn't give out first.
Did you see the picture with Steven's knuckles?( that's a type of training you do specifically to toughen up your hands for striking power/durability.
That proves that Steven isn't messing around, even now.
If we're talking in both their prime's then I give it to Steven even more( better cardio/no diabetes)🤘
@nooneyouknowof
@@MrPirreE Why you keep trying to go after me guy?
You ever make a mistake before?
Type something out, or write something out that you thought was in your head at the time, but it came out different on paper or on screen?
Maybe you got too tired after a long days work?
I guess not, otherwise you wouldn't be trying to give me such a hard time, would you?
You overlooked any of my points in my argument in your head, because I typed the wrong name of the founder?
No disrespect to him meant, if anything
, if you actually PAID ATTENTION TO THE REST OF MY POINTS, you would have seen that I was acknowledging the superiority of Aikido in certain situations in true fighting.
If anything, you should bash a guy who says that your art is crap etc, not a guy who's defending the legitimacy of it 🤷♂️
@iamshredder3587
Haha yeah Ok you can "think" all that all you want but it's definitely not thoughts coming from an experienced and informed mind. So tbh it's nothing more than a vote in a popularity contest by a fan boy for his favourite celebrity and idol who literally worships them and will automatically believe every word they say uncritically and anything positive he hears about them while blocking out and being emotionally triggered by anything negative no matter the evidence and truth to it.
And no NONE of that is a good thing bro or healthy. Especially the having "idols" thing, any idols. Hence why it's called idolatry. But all of its bad. And tbh terribly cringeful to boot.
And people like Bruce Lee are (or were in his case. As now hes answering for it.) masters at playing off this strange human phenomenon and at using it to manipulate and scam people like you for their own personal worldly gain. Which fyi isn't real or lasting gain at all and will always come back to bite them and condemn them sooner or later but that's another matter.
And please don't lie or try to deny it bro not to me, i mean it's so blatantly obvious to someone who trains and has real and extensive fight experience that it's not even a question.
(And I'm not even saying that like it's some great or real important thing or that I'm somehow better than you cause of my fighting prowess and experience. [Atmed and unarmed btw] Cause it's not, and I'm not. I do believe a man should be strong, knowledgeable, wise and diligent to protect his family and loved ones and himself in this dark, dying world best he can but other than that real fighting and violence kinda sux balls and I hope you never have to experience it. There far more important and lasting things to prioritise in life that matter.)
Like mjw obviously knows yes size and strength matter a great deal in unarmed violent physical conflict and determining the outcome. Like duh, obviously. They're not the only factors no but they are a huge factor nonetheless. (Else why do we even say "huge factor" to mean good not "skinny little 5'7" 64kg factor" haha?)
As is experience! Also a huge factor!
Also how someone like me can pretty much know the whole outcome of an altercation between someone like Bruce Lee who never fought a fighter or had any experience his whole life and a large, strong, fighting fit, trained and experienced fighter ( like mjw) before it would even happen, and even pretty much what it would look like. And let's just say little Bruce Lee was probably pretty crafty to never get in a real fight with a fighter or he wouldn't have all these fanboys claiming he was some real and invincible fighter nor would be here having to type all this lol
@ronmullard5718
what can I say Seagal is a legend ...in his own mind...
@NicholasGM78
As a lifelong fighter, trained extensively in multiple disciplines - from Judo, to Jiujitsu, to Tang Soo Do, to Tae Kwon Do, and others of varying utility - something important that the casual observer will likely miss - and that clip of Segal "blocking kicks" is a perfect example - is that during that Hollywood fight, the man fighting Segal isn't attacking him. He's attacking the air in front of him, and an established guard range that's been set before the scene, keeping everything light and up in front of him to easily knock away.
As well, no one throws those rapid, high, semi-pivot kicks in a real fight. At best, that's mildly effective in a competition fight where the concern is running up points in a match where points aren't the end of a round, and are slated at 2-3 minutes per round, usually in a two-to-three round format.
As well, we can make the "hard" or "direct" art versus "soft" or "passive" art argument all day long. I have never seen any distinction, when trained by a competent Master or Grandmaster, that sets defensive efficacy of most arts apart from one another. It tends to come down to training, conditioning, and the wisdom and skill of the teacher. I learned Tang Soo Do-derived Tae Kwon Do from Grandmaster Seon Kook Kim, one of the greatest practitioners of the art ever to live. If I got into a fight, even defending myself, I would be "punished," because he believed I should have been disciplined, thoughtful, and resourceful enough to advocate for or provide myself with a more favorable outcome, that didn't devolve into violence.
That said, the punishment wasn't punishment: it was training and conditioning. I thought, at the time, I was being punished for using the art as intended, but I wasn't. I was being reigned in, to be more thoughtful about the situations in which I found myself, and was being conditioned to weather any fighter of any skill level, and make me indomitable. My Yomsobonim didn't punish me, he knew my character, and that I wasn't the type to walk away from something unjust, particularly involving violence, and so he made me as hard as he could, making me stronger.
Steven Segal may be a legitimate Master of Aikido. As someone who never bothered getting a black belt in any art, I have wiped the floor with Masters, and it wasn't even close. I've also been in hundreds of sparring matches, dedicated years of my life to training and conditioning - both physically and mentally - been in at least as many street fights or street level altercations, and trained with and served as a U.S. Marine.
Controlling my environment became more my focus over time. I don't fight unless I'm left with no other choice. I know what I can do to a man, and have done, and if I never have to raise my hands in violence to another human again for as long as I live, it will be too soon.
Part of the reason we train isn't just to be physically prepared for battle, but also to mentally be such. There is no less art to mental martial discipline, and the mastery of one's thoughts, emotions, and self, than there is to the physical side of it. It's about self-exploration, self-actualization, and self-improvement.
Segal appears to not have learned any of the most important lessons. I have known men like him, all my life. Michael Jai White probably should have more class than to say the things he's said, as well, and he appears to have enough discipline to know better. If someone asks me, "Could you kill someone?," my first thought is, "I guess that will be between me and that person, won't it?" If someone asks me what I think of Segal, I'll say, "He's dedicated a lot of time to building himself into what he's become. Take that to mean anything you like."
I don't think much of Segal. Mostly because I don't think of him at all, when I think of warriors. Michael Jai White has incredible talent, power, conditioning, and is a precise fighter, who mostly keeps himself out of the public eye, for his relative level of fame. Of course, I learned to read people's mannerisms and movements - as subtle as them walking across a room, or how they move or make eye contact during conversation - a very long time ago, and have continued to refine that skill set over time.
There is no question in my mind: if you put Michael Jai White up against Segal, it would last about ten seconds, if that, even if both of them were in their prime.
The relative gap in strength, conditioning, and overall cross-training in martial disciplines is simply too great. Michael Jai White hits him once, maybe twice, and Segal goes to sleep.
That's my assessment, in a nutshell. I would feel fighting Segal, myself, would provide almost no challenge. Full stop. Michael Jai White, however, could pose an actual threat, if I were off point defensively. Kicks, particularly one as devastating as a side-kick or slip side-kick, are difficult to mitigate, even if you train against it every day, for years. Legs are incredibly powerful, on an entirely different scale than that of hand strikes.
If a punch can knock someone out, a kick can erase their memory of the last few weeks upon regaining consciousness. I've seen it happen.
And Michael Jai White won't be kicking the air in front of Segal. He'll be aiming to put a foot right through him, because any well-trained practitioner of the arts doesn't aim for their target, they aim beyond it. And, from what I can see, he chooses his target the same way I do: he visualizes a point infinitely beyond his target, and uncoils himself.
Artists like that aren't fighting you, they're attempting to push you into The Void.
@MarkEDark
Wow very well said interesting comments. You should write a book about your interesting life. My father was a Marine and martial artist he taught me many things about life self defense survival how to be a man & care for protect those you love. I should write a book about him too lol. But yeah make voice recordings on your phone or use voice to text software like DragonSpeak...I'd buy your book. Others would too !!
@MarkEDark
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@richardavery2244
That, is the most effective analysis I have ever read, Segal has built a reputation upon questionable facts or inaccurate claims which are not completely substantiated. So the question is, Hollywood hype or real deal ? Some or a lot of statements you made are spot on, based upon what we actually know about Michael Jai White vs what we really don’t know about Steven.😮
@chrismaurer2075
I stopped believing anything you said once you mentioned registering yourself once you became a blackbelt. I thought people stopped saying that nonsense at about age 15 . If anyone get's in a fight trained or not and does severe damage to another person they risk jail and lawsuit's . Even a professional MMA fighter or pro boxer DO NOT need to register anything ever .
@xWrongButtonx
Nicholas, this has to be one of the longest comments I have ever read, on youtube, and I have no regrets. Well said.
@nicholaswildman2782
I've seen a lot of the criticism of Aikido and it's effectiveness but one thing people don't often take into account is that most Japanese martial arts weren't designed for martial artist verses martial artist. They were designed for self defense against untrained / regular people. This is why Aikido typically doesn't translate to MMA because it wasn't designed for that.
The same applies to traditional karate, it was not designed for competition. For those who would point out Lyoto Machida - yes, he managed to translate karate to MMA but if you look at the stances etc that he uses, he has taken sport karate and used aspects of it it be successful i.e. precision, timing, efficient movement but it looks nothing like traditional karate. Whenever people like Joe Rogan criticise these arts it's because they don't understand them and are looking at it from an MMA perspective. Aikido and karate are extremely effective but for the purposes for which they were designed. What most people see of karate is a bastardised version where the vast majority of its effectiveness has been stripped so it could be introduced to schools as a sport i.e. shotokan. That isn't to say that shotokan can't be effective but I studied it for years and most of the effective stuff came from my own research because that just isn't taught due to it being primarily a sport.
Judo is effective in MMA because it was designed as a sport, it is an off-shoot of Ju-jitsu which was specifically designed for introduction to Japanese schools as a sport i.e. from its inception in was meant for martial artist vs martial artist.
Real fighting is not the same as MMA which is done in a ring / octagon with rules and where both fighters are trained. You can't judge all martial arts in the realm of competition because most of them were just not designed for it.
In terms of who would win between Michael Jai White and Steven Segal? I would say Michael Jai White and not because Aikido isn't effective, it's the fact that Michael Jai White isn't a delusional egotistical idiot and he actually knows what he's doing / talking about. Segal has proven to be one of be biggest liars and sexual deviants in hollywood so even if you believe most of the things he's said he's done most are probably lies.
@jotuthegamingguru8809
Aikido was designed for Samurai fighting an armed opponent when they were unarmed. It's useless.
@sastorymaster
I mean not exactly ;) It was originally developed by Morihei Ueshiba, as a synthesis of his martial studies, philosophy and religious beliefs. Ueshiba's goal was to create an art that practitioners could use to defend themselves while also protecting their attackers from injury. It wasnt designed so much as an offensive martial art but it can definitely damage someone's body depending on the FORCE applied and the momentum redirected Someone who really becomes a master of it can use it to defeat any TYPE of martial art or opponent it all just depends on how good the quote "MASTER" is at using it Take Karate Kid for example Mr Miyagi was better than Terry Silver even though Terry was more highly trained in more dangerous arts Miyagi was so focused and skilled he could counter even Silvers devastating attacks on him It may be just a movie but the message is clear...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT7JOS_cHDE