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Dominos So you think, that i want someone else i need some…
Goodbye I know that it's just a word But it's the saddest…
High Life it's hard to figure out there's too much going on -…
How To Be An Idiot Another morning still in bed, so many thoughts run through…

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Hans Golieberzuch

2y↑14

As a German born in 1946 serving in the 1960/1970th at the demarcation line as we called it, I am convinced, that after the Berlin Wall fell because Moskau decided that,
the key was there since WW2 endet, we or at least I was surprised, that the reunification was not in the interest of some of "our allies", "we beat them twice, now they are back", "we like Germany so much that we are glad there are 2" etc. The mistakes that led to what we face today lies in the fact, that mainly the American policy staedily pushed Nato eastwards
and in the end right to the door of the Russian Federation! James Baker promised in Febr.1990 talking with Schewatnaze, Gorbatschov that he favors WestGermany stays in
Nato and if the GDR joins in unification no Nato Troups must be stationed there, except German soldiers, and not one inch further East of Nato!
London even insisted shortly before the 2+4 talks in 1990 in Moskau to be allowed carrying out manouevers in the eastern part of Germany, which was turned down by
J.Baker after the German Foreign Minister Genscher drove that night to the Hotel to speak with the US Foreign Minister.
It is clear, historically, that the British policy has been anti-German for more than a century, only the French attitude match that.
Today, better since decades, politicians and the media don't inform the public about the events which led to the war in Ukraine.Why they don't mention that on the
Conference in Bukarest 2008 Merkel and Sarkozy vetoed that Ukraine and Georgia become member of Nato? 2014 the coup d'etat with the help of CIA and MI6,
remember the phone talk between Victoria Newland and the US Ambassador in Kiew about who should be the new Praesident in Ukraine ( f.... the EU).
The US and I guess the Brits started to undermine the Veto and in training and arming the Ukrainian Army, sent " Councellors" etc.
In 2007, but already before, Russian Praesident Putin during the Conference of Security in Munich found fully right harsh words against Nato expansion,
which is an existencial threat to Russia.After the coup d'etat in Febr.2014 the Ukrainian Army attacked and bombed the Donbass where most of the Russian speaking
people live, which cost about 10-14000 lives. The red line for Russia was the continuing pumping of weapons into Ukraine and they acted in Febr.2022.
It was clear to me after Febr.2014 that Moskau will take the Krim with Sevastopol not only to prevent Nato Navy there but the historical fact that it belonged to
Russia since Katharina the Great, like Odessa, the foundation goes back to her, and more important the fight against the German Army twice in 1941 and 1944
where both sides had heavy losses and the Krim laid in ruins like most of the part of Russia westward and south of Moskau down to Stalingrad and Kaukasus.
My conclusion considering the old aim of the British Empire and after the US took over after 1945 is to destroy Russia, get the ressources etc.
Remember Berezinsky: Russia without Ukraine is no longer an Eurasien power.
So, this is no war between Russia and Ukrain, it is a war of US led Nato and EU on the back of the Ukrainians and the people of the EU!
I guess US-Senator Richard Black from Virginia is right in saying: the war was planned by the US, executed bby Russia. That German politicians participate in this "Great Game" is more than shameful, not in my name!
They all underestimate what's gonna happen if "Mother Russia" is in danger! This is not Irak, Syria or Libya!
Russia survived several attacks by Poland, Sweden, France and Germany from the West and Japan from the East.
It backfires already to Europe and will bind China and Russia together, most probably India, the BRICS.
I don't expect that someone from MI6 tells the truth, even if he was in charge before.Britain belongs to the 5 eyes.
The Angloamericans like to play with fire, seems to me, Nato States have the status of Vasalls, nothing else, all this is not in their interest!
Hans-Juergen Golieberzuch

Asfandiar Tesla 3301

2y↑2

The focus of many people in the unlikely event of a nuclear war is the initial blast, which could cause mass casualties and unimaginable devastation. When the U.S. detonated nuclear weapons over the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki 77 years ago, it leveled the cities and killed more than 100,000 to 200,000 people from the blasts or radiation sickness.
But according to scientists, the horrors of a nuclear war could affect the whole planet.
Clearly, one or two nuclear impacts would not have global effects but the impact of 100 weapons the size of the one that fell on Hiroshima would lower temperatures around the world to below those of the little ice age that occurred from roughly 1,300 to 1,850. That would result in crop failures and famine on a large scale. Here are the large scale impacts
1. Five megatons of soot and ash would fill the sky, bringing about a nuclear winter.
2. After one year, the average temperature of Earth would fall by about 2 degrees. After five years, the earth would be three degrees cooler than before. Twenty years down the road, it would warm up to one degree below where it was before the nuclear event.
3. That might sound beneficial, given all the talk about global warming today, but lower temperatures means less rain. Five years after the detonation, rainfall would be at 91% of current levels. After 26 years, we would still see 4.5% less rain than we did before the war. And the reduced rainfall would bring about global drought conditions.
4. Depending on the region, growing seasons for crops would be 10 to 40 days shorter, resulting in widespread famine.
5. The ozone layer would diminish due to the radiation, ultimately becoming as much as 25% thinner for the first five years after the event. After 10 years, there would be some recovery, but it would still be 8% thinner. This would result in a rise in skin cancer and sunburns. And the increased ultraviolet rays would put plant and animal life that survived the initial blast at risk.

It wouldn't necessarily take 100 missiles for those theories to be tested, either. The United States' modern B83 bombs are 80 times more powerful than the weapon it hit Hiroshima. Russia has tested weapons that are even more powerful.
Scientists warn that ripple effects of a nuclear war could be devastating for everyone on Earth. The combined cooling and enhanced UV would put significant pressures on global food supplies and could trigger a global nuclear famine.

Мартин Калиньюк

2y↑13

@Ve. Elanjelian His academic credentials are not particularly pertinent here. Diplomacy is not about tolerance and understanding either, especially when these are simple ciphers for woke and liberal.

It is about an ability to find common ground. Spot appropriate potential concessions (on either side). The capability to clearly convey one's own side's concerns and overall position — as well as appreciate the other's. Then adjust accordingly, as best one can.

A self-styled classicist with a Ukrainian family background, is probably the best RF has in its higher government to send at the minute. Lavrov would be jarring. Zakharova too passionate.

I do not know what more you can reasonably expect? An anti-Putin, fluro-haired, leftist? I am afraid those are in short supply in Putin's Cabinet and among his senior advisors.

If we are realistic, the appointment is sensible and shows the delegation is serious. I think it signals Putin wants an exit strategy available as well.

Math Boy

@Semyon Katantsev Sanctions are used because direct military action is impossible given Russia's nuclear arsenal.
Sanctions were threatened in hopes of preventing Russia from murdering hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians with their invasion.
Sanctions are then applied when Russia invades anyway because:
1. There aren't too many other non-military options to punish Russia, and sanctions are the most punitive.
2. If you threaten it, then you've got to do it.
3. It's a message of the cost for any other evil governments looking on: there's a huge price to pay for such evil, even if nukes means that price won't be a direct military defeat.
4. As said in this interview, you have a bargaining chip to offer Russia in negotiations for them to end their murderous invasion.
5. It's harsh enough to hopefully cause a change in behavior. Whether that's by regime change (i.e. someone putting a bullet in Putin's head before he ruins his country... one of the downsides to making yourself a dictator is that someone killing you is the only form of internal regime change left possible), or whether that's by Putin's fear & anticipation of such an unpleasant regime change causing him to stop murdering thousands of Ukrainians,... which one of those comes to pass doesn't really matter. The point is that it's pressure that hopefully will lead to a change in Russia's behavior... their eventual pulling out of Ukraine.

There's no guarantee that #5 will work, but even if not, #1-4 still apply. If the Russian people have a deep seated need to be slaves to some self-appointed slave-master, even if it leads to the ruin of their country, and to untold evil and death both inside and outside Russia, well then, I suppose that's their choice. It's pathetic, but whatever. Given Russian nukes, no one outside Russia will directly interfere in their choice, and the world will just remain a more miserable place - for both Russians and Ukrainians - thanks to the cowardice of the slaves.

So the sanctions aren't about regime change. They're about Russia's invasion of Ukraine. If Russia wants the sanctions to go away, they need to pull out of Ukraine. Whether they do that by keeping their slave-master, or by choosing to re-enter the civilized world, is the internal business of the Russian people. The point of sanctions is for Russia to GTFO of Ukraine... for them to stop murdering thousands of Ukrainians.

All comments from YouTube:

Jayce

2y↑405

One of the things I learned while working at diplomatic representations of the European Commission in various EU member-states was the people working behind the scenes, whether they're high level diplomats or civil servants, are generally considerably more skilled, more competent, possess vastly more knowledge, and are generally much better at planning for the medium to long term than most politicians. They also tend to be more self-aware (including being aware of their own limitations - Dunning-Kruger Effect, I guess?), and many of them are highly dedicated to their work. I found that realization to be quite comforting, and this talk reminded me of that. Very good indeed.

Decimal

2y↑6

Makes perfect sense

Gardener42

2y↑49

@Johan Lindberg Did you actually READ the comment you are calling "bullshit"?
Clearly not, as you missed the whole point, which is that the bureaucratic framework embedded in most democracies works very hard to PREVENT their nation from initiating events of the kind we're seeing today.
That's demonstrably NOT about salaries & self interest - we leave that kind of nonsense to bureaucracies who function in nations where facts are less important than keeping the dictator happy (or at least from "disappearing" the dissenters).

H. R.

2y↑6

The richest person in my country is a businessman who never attend university but he has very good workers around him. A leader’s job is to lead & leadership competency generally measured by the achievements of that particular nation during his/her tenure.

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Brian Lee

2y↑9

Imagine what this guy could really share if we were able.

Siegfried Sieger

He could probably ramble on for hours and days about everything that has happened. He needs his own documentary or podcast or something along those lines.

Rich Williams

2y↑40

His final thought: "keeping dangers at a distance from us, the essence, really, of our security, you don't want your security to be on the white cliffs of Dover. You want your security to be a thousand miles away so that you can operate freely and our people can go about their lives in freedom and one hopes with growing prosperity and that's what public service is about" (32:55).

This to me is the tragic reason why we face conflicts like this - if you think that 'public service' amounts to holding influence thousands of miles from your own borders (i.e. all over the territory of other nations) how is this going to lead to peace? You can't have every nation of the world expanding their tentacles of power thousands of miles in every direction and also avoid antagonism with countries who don't want you doing this. This interpretation of 'public service' would (and does) lead to wars all over the place.

AL GUNG

2y↑6

What would UK feel for their own safety, if Russia were to duplicate the military measures of NATO's security outposts to be set up right at UK borders?

Andrew Bates

2y↑4

Another interpretation: help free nations thousands of miles away defend themselves from their bullying neighbours so that threats are defeated there, not on your land.

sichere

2y↑2

Watch the danger come closer to you and do nothing, apart from embrace it when it finally calls your name and knocks on your door !

Bilbo Blaggins

@AL GUNG Russia has been for many years constantly flying bombers towards the UK, then turning around right on the edge of our airspace.

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Carey Ostrer

2y↑38

The parallel drawn between sanctions against South Africa and present sanctions of Russia is that the substantial trade between the UK and SA never diminished because Thatcher’s Gvt UK refused to sanction SA.

Carey Ostrer

2y↑2

@Darren Clapson “Cubans, East Germans, and Russians”. ???? In South Africa? I grew up with the apartheid regime and like most people around the world followed it closely and called for it to end. Never once was it reported that foreign fighters were on the ground in South Africa. Provide your sources or be known as a liar! I challenge you!

Kabelo Selaelo

2y↑2

@Darren Clapson you don’t know what you’re talking about

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Edawsiwel

2y↑5

This guy is part of the world leadership that created all of the current problems.

ANDREW SPENCE

You are spot on!

Larry Lelemur

48w

Correct.

Hans Golieberzuch

2y↑14

Ton Hoffmann

2y↑4

absolut richtig👍

Jim Jam

Totaler Quatsch.

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Herman M

2y↑510

When a former MI6 chief speaks, listen carefully to what he says, and even more carefully to what he doesn't say.

Jeremy Williams

2y↑14

So you can Just make it up from there, What source do you find prime resources when finding your information. You said nothing other then you distrust his narrative, so where do you source yours from?

Timothy Webb

2y↑18

Wisdom. The Truth; but far from the whole Truth. The BBC are not the only ones that operate like this.

Jeremy Williams

2y↑2

Where are you finding your truths?

Timothy Webb

2y↑36

@Jeremy Williams It's getting more difficult by the day to know who to Trust. I try to watch the news from as many countries as I can, I currently have found some of the Indian reporting and YouTubers appear to be less biased on the current issues in Russia.

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greg weston

2y↑164

Listening to an ex head of MI6 and a current board member of BP is akin to listening to someone from the Council for Foreign Relations warn us about man made global warning. His perspective should be part of a suite of perspectives listened to and perhaps not entirely believed to be without bias.

Neil Hoffmann

2y↑8

Isn't that how you should approach any speaker?

I smelt it & delt it

2y↑31

If he was Tony Blairs right hand man at MI6, then he was the man that convinced Blair that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.

RockstahRolln

2y↑5

@I smelt it & delt it Precisely!!

None YoBusiness

2y↑10

W0rd, this man is the roots that the problems persist from.

C. I.

2y↑14

@RockstahRolln indeed. this is the very devil himself, charming voice tone, polished language, handsome and well dressed, but clearly a massive liar and war criminal.

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Jason Kahn

2y↑35

What a great forum. Not surprisingly, I learned more about the Russia/ Ukraine/ global dynamic in 34 minutes than I learned in a week of US coverage on the same topic.

Jason Kahn

2y↑1

@PlasmaBurns We shouldn't thank Putin for anything. And if indeed that did happen, you know...which I doubt, didn't all that "bio-lab stuff" just get released? Do you think about this stuff before you type, or do you leave the thinking part to your team of chimps you have working for you?

Ricardo Torres

@PlasmaBurns care to provide proofs?

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Orang Tua

2y↑18

Interesting to hear C (retd) justifying BP's interests in Russia on the basis of the jolly good return for its shareholders. Also, I found his comment about non-intervention in the affairs of other sovereign nations to be remarkable given the list of countries in which our US ally has "intervened", often with the UK's support (Iraq/Afghanistan) in an attempt to bring about regime change anywhere that disagrees with its capitalist Weltanschauung.

Fergus Hashimoto

2y↑1

Since you have a Malay name, I presume you are a Muslim. If you object to western intervention in Mohammedan countries, how come you don't object to Pakistani intervention in Afghanistan? Lots of squealing about Afghans killed by the US, but not a word about the genocide perpetrated by Taliban and Al Qaeda against Afghans with the eager assistance of Pakistani troops. Read about the Taliban massacre campaigns of the late 1990s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban#Massacre_campaigns
Of course for you, only non-Muslims can commit crimes against Muslims. I suppose you would call the Pakistani-Al Qaeda-Taliban genocide “brotherly assistance”.

Orang Tua

@Fergus Hashimoto Since you have a Japanese name I take it you're from the Land of the Rising Sun!

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Paul Cathcart

2y↑10

What a fantastic opportunity to be able to watch this. Thank you Sir John and to all the fine students who put forward some good questions. It's good to see the true intelligence that sits behind our governments front men. Very well done.

Jacque O'Mara

2y↑21

Getting our news from many sources, and being widely read, is more important today than ever in navigating and counteracting the limited view pieces thrown at us via the internet and TV. At least in America, TV news isn't news any longer as much as it is supposition by arm-chair wanna-be experts in world affairs. The disservice they do to us all - for ratings and a paycheck - is something we need to push back on by educating ourselves better.

Connie

2y↑1

Well stated. I've been feeling exactly that since a certain U.S. former, twice impeached president was elected to office. Now with this war, I'm more determined to get good information. Hopefully, more people out there will spread the idea. But do a lot of people even know which are the most reliable sources? That is the question.

Jacque O'Mara

2y↑1

@Connie And a good question! I believe that viewing many different, often conflicting, sources allows us to form our own ideas and to connect the dots about what may really be going on. The practice of being open to absorbing information - especially if we don't like it - and thinking it over for a while (instead of looking to be spoon-fed) can lead to more confidence in ourselves and our world. At least that's my take.

Phil Gar

@Jacque O'Mara "conflicting, sources" ... Sources do not matter if they are prop. Here is a source: "...we brokered a deal to transition power in Ukraine."

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Emile Guertin

2y↑1.4K

Fascinating interview. But the career path going from working with the 'militant arm' of the UK's foreign policy (aka MI6), to working for one of the world's largest oil companies is probably of even greater public interest.

Lisa Shung

2y↑66

@Paul Hollis really? With power to kill? They can kill more than you could imagine……

mrweasel

2y↑25

Very well said!

Emile Guertin

2y↑123

@Paul Hollis yes of course MI6 is not formally militant or military. That’s why I put it into inverted comas. But they certainly use force and they certainly meddle in foreign affairs - hopefully for the common good but the latter would be debatable.

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De Waard

2y↑43

That first audience question is fantastic indeed. And his response shows that there is definitely a lot more going on at NATO than this bickering over jets.

The Reality Filter

2y↑2

Awesome, one of the war criminals who facilitated the Iraq War based on false evidence! Reliable sources! 🤣

Darren northway

Does seem a somewhat one sided perspective,

Paul Bromley

2y↑31

It makes me proud that as a country we have people like Sir John who research, investigate, discuss and consider all the great threats and challenges and can then offer their knowledge and opinion when needed to the politicians who we have to hope take it to heart. If only Putin had been advised against his personal project in becoming a neo Bond villain.

Zak W

2y↑3

You're clearly unaware of the current chief of MI6.

P3RSY

2y↑6

Tony Blair's +1 is your idea of a saviour ?
Get back in your box.

Tom Moriarty

2y↑1

weird

BlackPhillip

2y↑1

6:32

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Tom Kelly

2y↑7

RLL and Secular Talk come together! Nice one!
Always good to hear from the people on the ground, not just officials with investments

Ipomoea Alba

1y↑1

Lol!

Miro Stanimirov

exactly THIS man is an official with investmens. And he is not hiding but saying it at the beginning!

Jorge J

2y↑23

Anyone who has some common sense and perhaps maybe just act like a police detective for once and go thru history of things will easily figure out unbiasedly what is really going on in this world or why things are happening the way they are. We can chop, slice, toss, mix, and smear things around in a bowl, but the fact is that the ingredients and how much of them never change. People really have to be more critical nowadays and look/investigate matters in all angles rather than being given at face-value.

z7eleven

2y↑2

You said nothing with that long sentence

25Th Baam

2y↑2

@z7eleven he said alot more then you think.he said why russia invaded ukraine and bcs of whom..

Julia Ostin

2y↑2

"How pathetic the jester is, on the king's throne, How stupid the people who allowed it." This all you need to know about the Ukrainian government and current state of the people who live in this country.

Joseph Blogs

2y↑13

I think having negotiations in Belarus was a geopolitical and geostrategic tactical error, because it puts the negotiation on the aggressors allied territory. It immediately creates a host and guest adversarial negotiating relationship. It also takes the spotlight off the negotiations. Negotiations for this type of situation should always be on neutral ground , such as in Geneva Switzerland, using the standard protocols and recognised methods for negotiation. This is a serious error that the Ukraine leadership has made in my view. Geneva negotiations would increase the strength of the international spotlight on the whole negotiation process.

Justus Ilgner

2y↑1

Joseph,

I think you got a point there, but honestly I think that neither side has had any serious prospect of hostilities to end and this point, as cynical and sad as it may seem. We may remember that it was Selenskij who rightfully suggested to meet on third party territory but this was declined by the Russian side. Hence it is remarkable that they met at all. At this point, I - regrettingly - suspect that negotiations serve only one purpose: To buy time to rearrange forces on both sides, and to wait for military and non-military aid coming in on the Ukranian side.

Joseph Blogs

Of course, however I still believe the process would have been batter managed and equally recognised internationally, if not even more recognised internationally, had it gone directly via Geneva. Had either side, but particularly Russia rejected the Geneva pathway, they would also tarnish their own credibility in the process. I think it works both ways in that respect, however I still believe it might have yielded results sooner and as mentioned made the spotlight shine brighter in terms of what was expected from both sides, in order to settle this matter. With that said, If Russia are now calling for a ceasefire, it's only because things are going so bad for them, they see the writing on the wall. Severe sanctions and poor military progress are effectively writing this chapter of history, despite outcomes or lack of them, from negotiations held thus far.

vasile seicaru

2y↑1

Breaking news from a week ago: Switzerland is no longer neutral. But you make a valid point, holding negotiations in Belarus could not hope to be impactful, for the obvious reasons

Joseph Blogs

Yes I did hear that Switzerland were sending weapons to help defend what is a sovereign nation. I still see them more neutral than Belarus, that's for sure. Hopefully the ceasefire holds, however that would require a meeting of minds.

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Ar Eck

2y↑19

"It's really important this doesn't become a conflict between NATO and Russia..."
This sentence alone already tells you that you shouldn't trust people who worked for intelligence services. This conflict has always been grounded in a conflict between NATO and Russia. It's shameful that it has first escalated into a civil war in Ukraine and now into a full-scale war between Ukraine and Russia, which in essence is just a proxy war between NATO and Russia. What's even worse is that the US and its Nato allies seem to be willing to fight till the last Ukrainian soldier by providing military aid instead of trying to go for a diplomatic solution.

Jasper Hilliard

Are you in favor of Russia's choice to invade?

Ar Eck

2y↑8

@Jasper Hilliard Of course not. But to argue that Putin has gone mad and is entirely to blame is ludicrous. The buildup to this escalation has been going on since the 2008 NATO Summit in Bucharest. And Putin already proved with his war on Georgia that he was willing to use his military to stop NATO expansion. Continuing to try expanding NATO in this context means that you were willing to risk Putin invading Ukraine. Congrats NATO, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Sadly the Ukrainian people have to shoulder the cost.

Basia

Don't look for information to support your point of view. Study the information of different parties and check them. Check out the sensational content on The Jimmy Dore Show -ytchannel

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Ansicht Scidel

2y↑14

This is such a good talk. Why is not this man listened to by leaders? The risks to the world certainly look not worth this war, if there is no safe and face-saving exit to all involved. This will be a lose-lose for the whole world. Prayers! Prayers! and Prayers!

None YoBusiness

2y↑1

Maybe because he sits on BP's board??????????????????????????????
Duh.

Mark Corkery

2y↑46

Agreeing with his presentation or not, there is a measure of class here I wish our leaders had.

Alan White

2y↑4

Yes this is true, but more money and an easier life are available in his type of role than in standing out for your nations best interest in politics. Normies see the bad actions of politicians much more than those of career civil and government agents and employees who usually wreak much more damage in their protected roles.

Dee J'ann E Mei & Urff Nicht

2y↑4

even though he is being totally misleading?
He is slanting everything he says to come into focus by tabloid readers.
No one else would be fooled by any of this. DO NOT LET AN OXFORD/CAMBRIDGE/EATON ACCENT OR MANNER EVER FOOL YOU INTO MAKING MORAL APPROVALS ON THESE GUYS.

jinjin

2y↑1

@So dark her hair he did not want to mention the coup that happen he is not a honest man

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Savy S

2y↑30

This is a great program, thanks for sharing with the world. The speaker is very knowledgeable on Russia but I think his view on China is kind of wishful thinking. The CCP, Chinese Communist Party, does not believe in any of principles he mentioned. CCP is just buying time, and in the due course, once they believe they are strong enough, they will expand militarily. The flash point may not be Taiwan though, at least not at the beginning. It would likely be due to a dwindling supply of fresh and usable water for China as the country's water supply is overused, priced too cheaply and heavily polluted. So, China, having controlled the Tibetan highland, will likely build dams and drain water away from the Mekong River and a couple of rivers that flow through India and Bangladesh. China will not respect the legitimate right to water for the nations downstream and will use the control of water to intimidate those countries. That's the principle that the CCP believes, winner takes all and might equals right. CCP has a history of lying, promising fair treatments but never delivered. Just looked at what happened to all the capitalists, industrialists and intellectuals who stayed behind after 1949, they were all imprisoned, persecuted, tortured and some of the them executed eventually. Just look at what happened to Hong Kong just after 25 years of take over. After China joined WTO, CCP has exploiting any loopholes and sometimes just cheat to gain unfair trade advantage. The CCP will actively cooperate with Putin and support him financially as both of them believe that the Euro-Asia land mass shall be divided into two separate spheres of control. It's just a matter of time when the west will have to confront China. I hope I am completely wrong and that day of confrontation will never come, and China changes her way, but as a Chinese watching the imperial court in China closely for a number of years, I am quite pessimistic of the future.

T S

2y↑1

Let's hope you're wrong and China sees changes her view of the world and will embrace global peace and stability for the benefit of all the planet. Wishful thinking, I know!

Nobunaga

2y↑1

Yes it’s not inconceivable that china will not be just after Taiwan, but also the ryuku islands of Japan and Mongolia for its resources. Don’t know what Russia would think of that

vinm300

AUKUS will finish China with a blockade.
The US just built 19 Virginia class nuclear submarines for that purpose,
Australia will add another 9, and Britain a further 11.
(France may add a dozen, but one can never count on France)
China knows this, which is why the land route to Central Asian food and oil is essential.

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Val Luscott

This is how you learn about the details of the present conflict in Ukraine. Thank you moderator for asking the key questions and not interrupting the speaker with needless questions. I have learned a great deal .

K Erdo

Can you trust him though?! Someone who was advising Blair!

Fenland Wildlife Clips

2y↑462

Thank you for allowing us non Oxford grads to watch this. Very worrying but also nice to see a calm, balanced perspective.

jomen112

2y↑34

I agree to a certain degree. It is a plausible narrative, however the problem with very intelligent people is that they can create a narrative that is so good and convincing that they even believe in it themself. And remember, this guys is the former MI6 chief, so I would not say one should take for granted that he is entirely objective in his descriptions of everything he says.

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Lam Par

2y↑20

I am sure BP can always count on a former spy chief to indirect or directly influent UK parliament passing legislation in favor of British big oil now. Well done BP! 🤑🤑

zendakk

2y↑2

Well aren't you a rebel. So brave, so deep. zZZzz

Sergio

Lobbying is something as old as time, if you don't like it work to change it yourself

Kiaorafranz

@zendakk are YOU? ?

zendakk

@Kiaorafranz I am. I exist, but please, no need to capitalize me, not that important.

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Joscelin Trouwborst

I am surprised to hear that he is not mentioning our hostile act of growing NATO from 19 to 30 countries. Also, already in 2008 at a NATO summit, Putin said that Russia was not going to accept Georgia and Ukraine becoming NATO members. NATO has a treaty article that says that countries in a territorial conflict cannot join. It seems to me that explains some moves.

zendakk

It's only a hostile act to those who want to perceive it as one. And who gives a damn about what this criminal "accepts" or doesn't... He is in absolutely no position to make any moral judgements or dictate to other nations how to behave.

60 Yo Self-Taught 🎹

2y↑1

The bigger guy is not necessarily the aggressor. He has been provoked for years by his smaller yet aggressive neighbour. Now he walked in smaller guy's garden to show some intimidation after numerous verbal warnings. Some other neighbors hated the bigger guy for decades, they wanted to see him hurt in a fight. They might have instigated it. They are not neutral at all and certainly not qualified to be a mediator no matter how they pretend to be. Their supplying weapons to the smaller guy evidences this evil intention.

Johnathan Sanders

2y↑17

24:43 Few can answer questions about China with depth and precision, but I think Sir Robert John Sawers did a decent job.
However, if one can look deeper, pursue further alongside his logic, and scrutinize more of his claims, it's still possible to find many holes in his argument and narratives.

Hans De Raeymaeker

2y↑3

...many holes, accidental or deliberate.... it seems very clear to me that he left out an awful lot of pertinent facts which wouldn't reflect well upon 'the west'.

RepealSection230ForBigTech

MISTER Robert John Sawers This is an American platform, we don't recognize ridiculous fairytale titles.

Austin Denotter

2y↑2

How could so many people smarter than me get this whole situation wrong?

Kenny

2y↑354

Those students ask great questions. Would love to hear Robert elaborate a bit more on the China dimension. Such a rare opportunity to hear someone like him talk this freely during this chaotic time.

Greg Byfield

2y↑4

Vince Mangiafico

2y↑71

Someone should have asked him if he was the one who advised Blair about Iraq's WMDs and then lead to half a million deaths.

Ranjit Kundu

bfd

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Spencer Nasey

2y↑8

Thankfully we have lots of people like this all around the world behind the ego driven politicians holding them in check

Carey Ostrer

Holding them in check? he was and is up to his neck in shite, And in my opinion has a vey sizeable ego !!!

Jake Howie

2y↑1

@Carey Ostrer yep utter shite that you could've read in the Dailymail or Sun

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Jamie Steadman

Thank you for doing this, it was very informative. Thank you Florida for taking a stance against the narrative for our kids.

Ilonka Stille

2y↑7

I would like to hear him again , after months of the war.

Laurence Kelly

I know England poor wee England I have a feeling that Russia is going to squash it just like Monty Pythons big foot squelch lolol

Taufiq Raymer

2y↑2

The story about the rat bears some similarity to what Sun Tzu wrote. He wrote 'When you surround an army, leave an outlet free. Do not press a desperate foe too hard.'

Never make your adversary believe he is fighting for his life with no option of retreat. When their option is to fight or die, people fight fiercely, or in a nuclear power's case, may resort to using them.

Asfandiar Tesla 3301

2y↑2

pa3fat

2y↑9

So good to see there is still intelligence in the UK.
Real good to see what this can do for all of us having such capacities available overview patterns in the world.

Tnx for this in this more than uncertain time(s).

Jon Foster

2y↑3

intelligent he is but that doesn't mean he isn't leaving out a lot of key details but he is former mi6 so i didn't expect the whole truth, like just who it is that is funding and arming the people who still consider stepan bandera a national hero, like just who was it that was making sure those types of people were put into positions of government and armed forces after the 'revolution' in 2014... no where in any of these talks do they talk about how we can take the fastest path to restore peace to the average Ukrainian person so they can get on with there lives, it's all about lets see how long we can keep the violence and misery going

John Smith

Even at such critical juncture of union, the brits do not forget to ridicule our president and the French people. Bravo!

S L

2y↑1

The Russians use a lot of Cold War designed equipment, but so do we. The F-15, F-16, and F-18s were designed in the 60s and 70s. The M-1 tank is a 1970s design. The B-52 are ancient and the Bradley is no spring chicken. We are partial to our antiques as well. Basically, new weapons systems are not affordable in large numbers, which is why the old stuff remains.

December

2y↑60

"I sit on the board of BP......the decision we took to exit Russia. Now, some might say 'why were you there in the first place?' Well, we were there in the first place because it was a very good investment to make and it produced excellent returns for shareholders over 25 years." In other words, we're happy to get into bed with Russia as long as it's profitable for us. Let's not look at the bigger picture - the bigger risks - let's just fill our pockets while we can.

Mary MacDonald

6hj

James Oates

2y↑2

I think this is a little unfair. The hope and expectation across the west regarding post-soviet Russia was that it would continue to develop towards western democratic norms. It's easy to look back now and see the mistakes.

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camilla bruford

2y↑13

I LOVED this talk. I don't need to agree with everything he says to realize that he's a very knowledgeable and thoughtful man. I definitely have a deeper understanding of the situation after viewing this. Bravo to Sir John and the Oxford Union!

Adrian Rudak

Do you have anything to add to this ? Feel free to contribute , history is complex and to understand it distance is crucial to be able to see whole picture . People like Putin see only the bits which fit to his concept of this planet.

Oscar Fitzpatrick

He's an interesting guy, but given that he was the chief intelligence personel during the UK's illegal invasion of Iraq with Tony Blair you should think carefully about how he portrays global politics (especially in the 90's at the beginning).

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kurt k

such a slick and reasonable sounding narrative. ive hear the same story every where. I could see three reasons not to belive a thing this man says before we got done with his credentials. mi6, bp, and tony blair.

Steve Chapman

2y↑24

Fascinating stuff. I loved the way that he avoided admitting that The West was already engaging in clandestine operations and cyber attacks against Russia and that, even though retired, he was ( Probably) still being kept informed by MI6. A good point too about wanting to ensure your country's defences are not on your border but a thousand miles away, hence Putins desire to acquire Ukraine ( And maybe more countries) as a buffer with The West.

C O

don't forget 24:30 "politics back home can change what happens on the battlefield..."

Steve Chapman

@Damian Cunliffe Agreed, but its probably a combination of paranoia and a long burning desire to reassemble the USSR.

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Simon Lee

2y↑144

I'm a Brit. And I am old. And I grew up around people like Sir Robert John Sawers. And I am very aware of his expertise and his deep knowledge and his commitment and tireless service to his country. And I can tell you, categorically, that you cannot trust one word that issues from his mouth.

Know Club

2y↑5

why?

Patrick

2y↑18

@Know Club Because he is an ex MI6 operative. Do some research from entities that are not controlled by the elites.

DJ Walker

2y↑10

Keep wearing the tin foil.

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mark mawson

2y↑4

He failed to mention the Russian oil dilema was created by Saudi Arabia, probably at the request of Western influence, over producing oil and crashing the price. This being advantageous to the US in terms of crashing the Russian and Venezuelan economies, which where very dependent on the oil price.

Alan White

I'm really not overly bothered by the BP job - it's common for his experience to go there. I am far more concerned about his unserviceable British interest stance and advice/influence during his long career, particularly not seeing the danger of the critical ambitions of China and globalism and corporatism generally in facilitating the rise and threat of China over the time of his career and influence.

LW1zFog

2y↑53

“WAR is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.”
― General Smedley Butler, War is a Racket

Kynszch Didales

2y↑1

Butler was talking about WWI - you can imagine what he would have said about WWII, Vietnam, and etc. I am of an age where i remember the optimism for the future we felt during the heady days of the late 1960s - an optimism which has since been utterly crushed as nationalism and selfishness have returned to dominate politics. i wouldnt like to be young today; it's going to get worse.

Mark Smith

2y↑1

Tell the 6 year old girl who died of dehydration in Ukraine that!

Tamara Simpson

@Kynszch Didales My father served in Korea and two tours in Vietnam. I understand he was talking about WWI. I was correcting him that War is not the foundation of Profit what the war is about is. And the real motive in USA Armory production in WWI prior to our entry was a Power Play--that paid off.

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JustKeith

2y↑1

Americans seemingly have a good intelligence source, (code breaking, or spies, etc ) and even told Ukraine when they had about 48 hours. Sometimes, all that intelligence gathering, and meta-data pays off. Thin line between privacy and safety.

Dmitry Korovin

2y↑155

Great discussion, thanks. I'm riddled with one thing only - the "NATO threat" argument. This is the thing even some US spokespeople are saying, plenty of videos on YouTube. If you wind a clock 20 years back, Putin who just came to power said he wouldn't mind to join NATO. And he was denied. There also were several agreements that NATO wouldn't expand to the east, and these promises were broken. None of it justifies invading a friendly country and bombing its civilians of course, but when you look at that through the eyes of an old KGB officer who was forged during the Cold War, you can definitely see threat and conspiracy. "Why wouldn't they accept us in, as they say, defensive alliance and slowly surround us - they must be planning an attack". Don't you think that the US were indulging this conflict, provoking Putin to respond? There's always the same comparison - when USSR was to set up a military base in Cuba, the Karibean crisis emerged that was inches away from escalating to a nuclear war. US wouldn't accept Soviet misseles at its border. Although as a sovereign state, Cuba had the same rights to invite the Soviets, same as they now say about Ukraine who has every right to look for the NATO integration.

I keep going through this arguments again and again, and cannot make a final decision, because they seem logical but at the same time I cannot accept that the only way to protect your geopolitical interests is bombing Ukraine and calling its citizens "nazis". What do you guys think?

Hemlyns

2y↑37

The truth is that no agreement was made not to expand NATO. Secondly, Putin was interested in joining NATO, but couldn't be bothered to go through the acceptance process, and hence declined.

Michael Oskroba

2y↑29

I tried to understand the same issue, also soaked all John Mearsheimer's talks about Soviet and Russian Federation history. I came to a conclusion that NATO is a DEFENSIVE alliance. You do not "expand" NATO by placing rocket missiles on the edges of it o running military drills on their borders and hoping to be accepted. Your country needs to pass a fair and democratic and scrutinised vote to join NATO, and requirements have to be fullfilled.

What kind of vote or requirements Ukraine passed to get Putin's soldiers, tanks, and rockets accept Ukraine's invitation? Trying to join defensive alliance that protects their members from invasions? So Putin responded "why are you afraid of us? you must be brainwashed and thus we gonna kill you and purge your country!".

T Allen

2y↑4

A 'pre-emptive strike"; or "the best defense is a good offense". SIMPLE.

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Joerg Quasnowitz

2y↑3

The problem with that line of argument, of Ukraine not being admitted to NATO or the EU, in my mind is, that Putin wants to build a Greater Russia Empire and at the same time creates the very condition, that makes all nations around Russia wanting to join NATO and the EU. At the same time, Putin and all his oligarch friends thrive on western countries flourishing economically. So all he is achieving with this action can only result in the utter destruction of his fantasies. once he realizes that will be the dangerous point.

Brian Knowles

2y↑8

Very enjoyable to watch and informative. Before I start, I admit to supporting Ukraine and / or any other country come to that, that wants democracy and freedom of speech etc. But look at it from one angle, if Ukraine should ever join NATO, it could ' in theory' have nuclear weapons on it's soil and moments away from Russian soil. Now think back to the Cuban missile crisis way back when, when Russia & Cuba wanted these weapons on Cuban soil and what America's reaction was. Having said all this, I can't for the life of me figure out what or why Russia should be afraid of NATO, we are never going invade, they have very little [ if anything ? ] we need. I keep feeling bemused.

GizmoIE Cycle

2y↑3

i am not sure about "they have very little [ if anything ? ] we need.", correct me if i am wrong, as far as i know, US have a huge crisis situation right now due to pandemic and all other BLM shit, during the past 1-2 years. And military shit is the way, US used to improve their wellbeing ... but it is only my thoughts.

Brian Knowles

@Lewa500 Thks for the info. I can't understand anybody wanting to ' nuke ' anybody, surely nothing would be habitable after ..?

GizmoIE Cycle

2y↑3

@Lewa500 well not sure if you have seen it, but Zelensky was telling that UA someday will become a Nuclear State (and in some reason LOL< all the videos are blocked from the Ireland, i think all the same from other countires) , well we know what reaction US would have, we have Cuba as an example.

Brian Knowles

@GizmoIE Cycle Thks for the polite reply. Not sure of your thinking here .. no matter what problems the USA has and yes, it has a few, just like us here in the UK, no matter what they do, going to war [ any war ] will not solve any pandemic. Not sure what the meaning of BLM is ?
NATO is never going invade, the country is so big along with the population, it could never be policed under a democratic system. and if nukes were used, who'd want to or could live there ? I've no gripe with a Russian system but why can't you / we have democracy ? let the people decide who they want to be ruled by

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CrazeUK

2y↑2

I love how the last 5 minutes and the last question served as a plug and CV why companies / organisations and countries should hire him!!

Dmitry Zhuzha

And it also looks like he'd been bragging about being one of the key warmongers across the Globe.

Kωνσταντινος

2y↑21

I loved the closing statement" Britain security should not be at the cliffs of Dover but 1000 miles away" This is exactly what Putin is saying. He wants Russian security 1000 miles away. Why on earth did you promise Ucrane to enter NATO knowing that Russia would feel threatened.?

AlbertRoss

2y↑4

Precisely

Gudgeon Sales

2y↑5

"Why on earth did you promise Ucrane to enter NATO knowing that Russia would feel threatened." -- Because they asked. We didn't invade them, or threaten them. Every nation that joined Nato since 1990 did so by their own request because they feel threatened by Russia. Russia's invasion of Ukraine proves they were right to do so.

Gudgeon Sales

@AlbertRoss "Once the USSR broke up, that threat no longer existed" -- Oh boy!

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MY VIDEOS

Ukraine must allow other countries to occupy its land. not to fight the Russians
but as a strategic position. Russia would have to be very careful not to infringe
any of these bases, for fear of lawful retaliation. without nuclear threats

twangbarfly

2y↑75

"One of the things I do in my afterlife from public service is I sit on the board of BP" - says it all really. Spoken like a true Blairite. He goes on to talk about BP's lucrative business investments, so much so that when he talks about what "we" have to do, one must legitimately wonder who exacly he is refererring to as "we", which seems to me the essential problem in the ongoing conflict between the West/US and Russia. In whose interests were the sustained provocations that led to this military crisis actually made?

Olympia Hendrix

2y↑5

CERTAINLY NOT FOR THE GOOD OF THE PEOPLE.

Kathleen Adams

2y↑9

He is absolutely drooling at the rising oil process for the Consumer, the little guy. Anything out of his mouth is crap.

twangbarfly

2y↑7

@Jean Claude Jacquettie, with a Jacket on. End of analysis? What analysis? :-)

Jeffery Roy

2y↑2

@twangbarfly Indeed. I gave up after about 10 minutes of nothing I didn't already know or figured out on my own.

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sham421

2y↑8

The answer to any difficult question posed a "board member" of a corporation is ALWAYS "shareholders"

Ebrim

2y↑2

One should hope so, at least when it comes to the running of the business. It would be a strange entity indeed that relied on the resources of its investors but put their interest in low priority.

sham421

2y↑2

@Ebrim we’re not talking about “business”, we’re talking about ethics and humanity. “Why did you fund death squads in Columbia?” Why, bananas and shareholders, of course. It’s just business.
Ethically revolting behavior. Not to mention a little murdery.
Why did you package toxic mortgages and sell them to your clients? Business, man.

hadror13

@sham421 as if not all sides are playing the same game... 🤷‍♂️

KT

2y↑6

22:00 explains the video I watched yesterday where Putin discussed the monetary (incentives), and payments to soldiers and their families for fallen and wounded Russians. Thanks for making this available.

RepealSection230ForBigTech

Dream on: the Russians are too smart to go in heavy and occupy, that's not their strategy at all. The amateur presenting his views is conning you: The causalities ratio is 6:1 against the Ukrainians.

RepealSection230ForBigTech

currently Russia has captured over 1/3rd of you-crane; all the strategic areas.

Craig Schulze

2y↑1

Think it's good to just be honest over the necessity for oil. We may not like it, but when George Bush said we were addicted, we could then see why 911 and everything else in the middle east happened; without so many words being said. May not be the best solution, but what would the best solution be? Apart from seeing society break down as a result of the limited supply of it?

Drbudweiser in Japan

He gave a measured opinion but not necessarily correct. It was an opinion of maintaining an old status quo rather than an attitude to tackle the largest problem of our generation.

John Cooper

Fantastically informative. Thank you to Sir Robert John Sawers for your past official service to all of humanity. Thanks also for generously continuing to share valuable insight honed through many years of experience. Thanks to the Oxford Union for arranging and sharing.

Jennifer Lawrence

2y↑702

I've seen a few people repeat that analysis - that Putin underestimated the Western and Ukrainian response, and has essentially rushed into this war under-prepared. I'm skeptical of that claim. That doesn't seem like the calculating and cautious Putin we've seen over the last few decades. Unless there has been a personnel shake-up around him and some of his more cautious advisers have gone, I assume Russian leadership would have planned for worst-case scenarios, and would have fairly accurate intelligence concerning Ukrainian resolve. I don't think we're yet in a position to know what Moscow's expectations and plans are.

M Monanga

2y↑45

You are right

ironman tooltime

2y↑53

I think they miscalculate the local currency cost to Russia. Russians are quite tolerant of hardship. The economy may import today but it can switch to domestic and Chinese suppliers. A "collapse" in the rouble is also impossible not to have been anticipated. As such I'd expect all the oligarchs are in the process of redenominating assets from dollar and gold into rouble and picking up an opportunity to acquire domestic assets that will be required to supply a sanctions restricted market. Putin's thesis will be he can weather this longer than the efette west can and the oligarch wealth will be protected by operating in domestic resource markets.

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Paulus_Neptunus

2y↑17

Great to listen to such an intelligent, experienced and balanced view on the history behind what is currently happening and what options there are to carefully bring the situation to a conclusion where all parties can move on from what has become a disaster not just for Ukraine but for the world.

Skinovthe Perineum

2y↑1

Disaster? You ain't seen nothin' yet.

J C

2y↑3

@Skinovthe Perineum the bad days are over. Now it’s time for worse days 😁

Belinda Thorne

2y↑1

@Giacomo Fisher Enough about you

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Blackened Sprite

2y↑25

That was interesting, not least because he says the quiet part out loud at 6:47. Why were we in Russia in the first place, knowing it was corrupt, knowing it was a dictatorship, knowing it was completely stupid to trust anything at all? Well, it made some shareholders some money.

Sebastian Boccardi

2y↑1

maybe you can argue, that NOW you can sanction them with private citizen (not government) actions, so the building of a commercial relationship although questionable can be a powerful tool to leverage power with non militar operations. I think trading with Russia was te best path to "westernize" it, we have failed but it was not an entirely bad idea

Doobas

he was talking about BP Oil

Nicolas Fauvel

@Sebastian Boccardi no, not an entirely bad one, just a naïve one, perhaps. Western Europe has been trading with Russia for centuries - even during the time of the USSR. The history of Russia for at least the last three hundred years has shown that regular contact with "western" values has not brought about a fundamental change in the Russian preference for autocracy amongst all but a relatively small minority. Attempts from without have been rebuffed, and attempts from within consistently suppressed, throughout Russia's history. If there was a moment to "westernize" Russia's trajectory (and it is very debatable whether there was ) it was 30 years ago when the USSR collapsed, but it required more than just trading and the west was not interested in putting in the considerable economic resources required. The tragedy of Russia is that it has a marvellous people with a wonderful language and culture (both folk- and high-culture) but a complex addiction to "Tsarism". Trading has not influenced that, though it has given the west a powerful tool to wield now in the form of economic sanctions.

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philipp594

2y↑9

He is smart but also seems forget sometimes that times change. Just because it worked before doesn't mean it will work now.

Christoph Güllich

2y↑1

To this day I remember this great movie. I saw it in a small off Theater in Berlin in 1980. It made a lasting impression on me.

The Truth Channel

I train MI6 agents in mortal hand-to-face combat. The most underrated technique is to scream loudly and run fast away from danger. But if you’re trapped and pleading doesn’t work, try playing dead and then run away fast to safety and call for backup

Martian Soon

2y↑17

One of the main goals that I have seen for Russians is going pretty rapidly forward. Russia wants to isolate Ukraine from the Black sea. So you may predict that Russia is soon going to invade Odessa that is the last and most hardest target in the coastal area. Also securing Mariupol is a key interest, because Russia wants to have land access to Crimea. Even when other targets that Putin has made are vague or even failing, these seems to be going forward.

Zelenskyi has made such an appearance in the international stage, that his death would mean more international and even Russian anger toward Putin.

So we will likely see more crumbled concrete and dead people specially in the coastal areas before any real negotiations will start.

Agreeing what has said about China. China wants to keep up their economy with the western world. They don't want to sunk in the economy that it has been in 1950's. So likely Taiwan conflict is seen as an likely sanction era and current west is seeing that these are effective way against aggressor. So Taiwan conflict could be paused for a long period of time.

effexon

@Hantus77 after that was good tsar in 1700s.. making improvements and modernisations.... quite rare in russian history.

Derick Mukasa

Liar

Basia

Don't look for information to support your point of view. Study the information of different parties and check them. Check out the sensational content on The Jimmy Dore Show -ytchannel

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Andy C

2y↑16

I'd love to see this updated a week later, a lot has changed.

Albert Romera Rizo

@Kiaorafranz wow I enjoyed your comment. What happened in 2014 was another colour revolution, planned to removed an elected government. It is said there were British snipers shooting civilians on the square.

Kiaorafranz

@Albert Romera Rizo thanks, "The Maidan Rev. 2014 "

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Charlotte Tracy

Excellent comments. Thank you from California. It is encouraging to see so much of the world coming together to help Ukraine.

akesha4138

I guess the bottles of vodka on the table are a prop effect. This came on "auto play" and I was shocked to see it was from 18 days ago. This man really has a handle on the situation, facilitating a highly well thought-out intelligent discussion.

Team TinyTurtle

That's the kind of Vodka James Bond drinks right there!

rhiannonhill

2y↑2

There's no doubt that this is a person of gravitas and knowledge, but: (from Wikipedia): After retiring as Chief of the Secret Intelligence Service Sawers became Partner and Chairman of Macro Advisory Partners, before becoming the Executive Chairman of Newbridge Advisory. He also became a Visiting Professor in the Department of War Studies at King's College London.

Richard Hart

2y↑3

If (as he says) that Russia will win the war - then what is the point in "supporting the Ukrainian government" with sanctions, but not with military action? The West should either get involved or not at all

Мартин Калиньюк

2y↑55

One key caveat: @8:57 — Russia's choice of who was to head up the diplomatic delegation, was actually apt. Yes, Medinsky is a historian. However, he is also a Ukrainian. His father was a hero in the Chernobyl disaster damage control effort (ironically would have been a senior officer over the Klitschkos' father). He was not sent to merely read them “a lecture.” The appointment evinces a serious will to talk.

Ve. Elanjelian

2y↑12

Maybe it does from your point of view. It doesn't, unfortunately, from mine. Mr. Medinsky's academic credentials have been widely questioned, and in all likelihood, he would have lost his doctorate in 2017 if not for political interference. But, more importantly, he is not known for his tolerance and understanding. He is a fanatic bent on imposing his narrow understanding of the world on others. Which, I suppose, is good enough a qualification for his brainwashing job, as the so-called culture minister. But it makes him a poor fit for that of a diplomat.

Мартин Калиньюк

2y↑13

Мартин Калиньюк

2y↑4

@National Question I am biting proverbial tongue, from due deference — because this comment section is connected with Oxford University.

Your opinion is noted. I do not see how it helps motivate further discussion, however.

Мартин Калиньюк

2y↑5

Literally as we speak, the second round of talks have moved forward with an agreement on the need for civilian corridors. To enable non-combatants caught in the cross-fire to leave and medical/humanitarian assistance to enter. One corridor will probably be Kiev-Vasilkov in the West and Donbas-Taganrog in the East.

That is diplomacy at work. Who cares if the Russian Federation's delegate has a doubtful doctorate or is not particularly keen on pride parades?

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Russ Ozard

2y↑8

The mother of all mistakes just like Tony Blair finally admitted his invasion was wrong, history repeats itself 👍

Roger Hearn

2y↑1

@Krishnan -Resurrection No she's not!

Krishnan -Resurrection

@x_x thats right ...shes a Trans ...take a look at her new hairstyle 😁

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Rico Mars

For the positive speech-it has been a 🌎 world wide collaboration to ask for peace ✌ and a Privilege to be here to help heal our Prayers...

Ngand'osamba lundula

It's very normal to hear from both the antagonists and protagonists so each informed viewer can discern facts from opinions and then draw their own conclusions. Now we linguists are reported to be language detectives. As such wasn't this video title to read: 'From M1616 Chief on the Ukraine Russia Conflict' . In other words, grammar proscribes the capitalisation of form or closed words comprising fewer than five letters. Yet this preposition 'on' is one of the three closed words aka bond morphemes.
Oxford is the shining star of academic and the focal point of academic reference the world over. May OU retain her prestigious reputation in whatever she writes in future!

Brian Costello

What a great presentation This man should be the next Prime Ninister

Dr.Santosh Rathod

As a human being... Do we lost or fading our soft skills or wisenes of thinktanks or a leaders who are leading the their own sovereign countries to resolve all the critical and the core issues on the table..
It seems human are loosing pure wiseness.. It seems after watching things going around us worldwide..
We should not starve some ones from his rights. It will only creat further complex situation for human.
We must respect each other.

Jedi_Mapper P

2y↑19

Love the last question and his response, especially the unintended benefits of adapting to COVID by communicating remotely and more timely.

39K

I felt he didn't actually answer the question, even though his reply was informative.

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Daniel Lunn

This is the information that needs to be on the news a balanced honest perspective 👍

John Gray

2y↑2

In so far as it’s clear Putin had an agenda many years ago by which he funded the plan through the sale of oil and gas it begs the obvious question as to why the UK gov has consistently failed to become self sufficient for energy where their never ending dependency on energy from Russia should never have been allowed to continue.

noeL

Russian money in British govt.

Chris Paul

I brought G. N. K. Mourie, the Alll Black Captain who refused to play against the Springboks in 1981 and G. F. Kember to talk to my young players at Victoria University, Wellington. Sir John accurately described Sth Africa's Macho Rugby players as Apartheid Achilles Heel. Could Sir John kindly identify the Achilles Heel of the Apartheid Entity Known as The State of Israel, so that we can address this Abomination.

TSB

2y↑12

What was more revealing than what he said was what he didn’t say about the long term attitude of the West to Russia post USSR break up, nor any assessment of the expansion of NATO to Russia’s border.

Alex

2y↑1

Great professional and a public servant! Must be one of the most informed people on the planet!

Maekong

2y↑23

That was as comprehensive an overview as one could hope for. Thank you.

Edit: After being haunted by the possibility (due in no small part to Jude Irwin's comment) that, not only was I plausibly under-informed regarding this issue, but that this dissertation would be doing more harm than good if I were. So I went deeper into the topic of Russia's relationship with Ukraine, NATO and, specifically, the USA and, Holy Shit. I have seen the error of my ways and no longer support this video. At most this was incredibly biased and at worst, the dude was talking out of his ass in the most pretentious way possible.

At some point I may return to take this comment down. But I wanted everyone who "liked" it to have the opportunity to show their displeasure with my change of heart. Cheers.

the celt

your not serious ha ha ha ha i would have thought that age would have shown you something obviously not ..you've accepted the narrative and simply repeat it ... i feel sorry for you brother i really do ..as a commenter said above this is really good for pre school children who have not yet seen the real world ..

Maekong

@the celt Yes, you are just oozing maturity, intellect and wisdom. It is a wonder that you aren’t sought out more often to speak on weighty matters. I have been thoroughly humiliated by your superior knowledge of world affairs. A pity that we all don’t have the perspective that could only be obtained from your parents’ basement.

Maekong

2y↑1

@the celt I can see you haven’t gotten any smarter over the past day or so. Not that I had gotten my hope up. Regardless, standing by for your next contribution to the wider dialogue. Assuming you somehow figure out what that was.

Maekong

2y↑1

@the celt And how dare you accuse me of homineming your abs. I, much like you, have never even seen your abs. But seeing you are into suggesting that others "look things up," I have one for you. "Projection." Give it a go. You'll be that much closer to self-awareness, if you do. That one's a freebie.

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Viking Prank

2y↑1

Very interesting lecture, I didn't realize the economic pressure on Russia were that effective. I hope our leaders also realize we shouldn't corner poutine like a rat.

Dan Snyders

Effective, yes, but after the fact. Which rather defeats the original purpose of the sanctions. So true that we don't want to back Putin into a corner.

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Zed

Thanks for sharing. I hate that we are being stood over with nuclear weapons. If we don't stand up to that now, it will happen again, next it will be china with Taiwan. I imagine Xi very interested in how this is playing out, seeing as he is going to do the same to Taiwan. And because Taiwan not in NATO, we can't assist them either.

Semyon Katantsev

2y↑2

I like how Ukrainian fate must be decided by the elected leaders of Ukraine and Russian elected leaders must go because you do not like them, and if they do not -- you will punish all the Russian citizens until they do "the right choice".👏👏👏

Semyon Katantsev

@Roman Roman Oh, i didn't know it is so simple, thanks!

Semyon Katantsev

@Math Boy my bad, English is not my first language. So what the purpose of sanctions than?

Math Boy

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Jocelyne vkb

2y↑4

As a human being, I appreciate insights from someone who worked 40 years as a spy a/o BP operative ... Dear Sir, if I may, what is your take on the brutal take-over of one of Europe's most fertile country: Ukraine? Where do you stand on the pressing Climate Warming issues heralded by IPCC scientists ... Mass migrations due to loss of crops, etc. So, thanks Oxford Uni for the viewing, but looking into past apparatchiks' views is ineffective to either HELP democratic Ukraine or PREVENT the climate disruptions forcasted by the informed scientific community!

Ken Mogi Brain World

2y↑2

The border of what the former chief can say and cannot say is quite interesting to surmise.

Michael Brady

2y↑169

This guy sounds quite intelligent and quick to give many limited references to half measures in the past. He's a high quality yarn spinner to entertain up and coming students whose families are certainly British Petroleum shareholders. Please note how instead of being truthful about how ineffective "sanctions" are in stopping aggression, he so wisely emphasized that once a belligerent leader is caught in a corner militarily, the sanctions can be useful while the aggressor begins negotiations for his/her own end-game. Ex-UK government employee, ex(?)-MI6, currently on BP's board of directors---smooth as a Cobra in the night.

yumpladukfoo

2y↑15

LOL....Michael...I was thinking exactly what you posted. Well said.

Angela De L'Aqua

2y↑10

notice how he stuttered after his comment about trump!

archiveDOTorg @thefashybookworm

2y↑19

hes literally a state actor.

Chico Banderas

2y↑11

This was the first comment I saw explaining my own feeling.. Just like with covid, we're going to be inundated with these types of puppets feeding a narrative..

Shillslayer McHammer

2y↑24

Au contraire, the greatest skill he showed on that stage, was diplomacy. It's easy to open up your mouth and whip a storm....... not quite so to instill an air of de-escalation while discussing the very things that an 'aggressor' would consider inflammatory. Rhetoric matters.

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Packerjip

Thank you for this interview. I agree with so much of what Sawer's opinions were.

Anaesthesia

The problem with such people is that although they have gathered wealth of knowledge and experience over the long years of their service in such important positions, they are unable to deliver that knowledge to their audiences because of the necessity with which they have to follow and propagate their respective governments’ official narratives.
Skipping of necessary perspective and important detail from his talk is glaring.

Bitsnbobs Bobsnbits

The problem with the world is that, one human can cause a world war, it shouldn't be, there are people on all countries to decide on everything, no one person should decide a war

Mike Kelly

2y↑2

An intelligent man. Well thought out and lateral perspective.

Pietro Mueller

2y↑2

Zelensky is an actor playing a hero and a puppy of the transatlantic forces.

Julio Aranton

2y↑146

Wish more "Government Representatives" were as sensitive to Nation's Rights as this well-versed, educated and involved in World Affairs.

Aljan at5

2y↑8

It is far wiser to save the critiques for after they stop paying you, that is assuming you wish to retain or improve your financial and career position as well as social situation: Never tell the torturers they are hurting the weak, as they are almost always deluded by their own hype machine into thinking they are righteous.

siversurfern1

2y↑2

@Aljan at5 so true 👍

Robert Dore

2y↑5

You clearly haven't been paying attention. The very word government means 'control' what does that suggest to you?

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Hong Yang Wang

2y↑29

To be America's enemy is dangerous but to be America's friend is fatal!

- Henry Kissinger

николай иванов

2y↑6

To be Britain's enemy is bad enough but to be Britain's ally is even worse.
- Otto von Bismark

john smith

2y↑3

Rhodesia found that out the hard way.

Derick Mukasa

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤝🤝, the 🎤🎤 is yours.

hadror13

2y↑1

that was always some divisionist BS - keep peddling your hate of others

Martin Smith

What an amazing life he has had, fascinating stuff, tyvm :)

Aco747lyte

49w

Since his admission of being on the board of directors with an energy company, I would imagine he's laying low because we are paying for rocketing energy prices while he and his shareholders greatly benefit.

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