One of the group’s trademarks was the experimentation with Dutch lyrics, which resulted the (back then) four piece in being the first ever crew in The Netherlands to release a complete demo in their native language. This turned out to be the start of a new genre they still call ‘Nederhop’ to this day, a term consisting of the words “Nederlandse” (Dutch) and “Hip-Hop”.
The start of Osdorp Posse can be tracked back as far as 1986, when Def P (real name Pascal Griffioen) made his debut on the Dutch hip-hop scene with the group Funky Fresh Force, consisting of him and DJ Dov, who would later become a famous House DJ under the pseudonym DJ The Prophet.
In 1988 Griffioen started experimenting with Dutch lyrics as a joke (translating American rap lyrics from groups such as N.W.A.), and a creative exercise (writing a couple of ‘real’ songs). His nephew Marco (later on taking on the nickname IJsblock – a literal translation of N.W.A.’s infamous Ice Cube) joined in the musical tomfoolery, as they recorded raps on instrumental tracks from their record collection, using nothing but a tape deck and a microphone.
It wasn’t until Marco and Pascal met Robin (now known as Seda) and Arthur (King) that they got down to writing real material that they found suitable for recording. Even though their musical playground that they had by then labelled Osdorp Posse (named after the Amsterdam neighbourhood Osdorp, where they all lived) consisted of a large group of friends with a continuously changing line-up, the core of the Posse was the four guys, and would remain so until twelve years later. With a lot of the co-rappers leaving the group with no interest in taking Osdorp Posse to a next level, the group recorded an infamous demo as a fourpiece. The nameless cassette – which quickly became known as ‘De Rode Demo’ (The Red Demo) – was handed out to friends, and travelled the country, taking the underground alternative music scene by storm through the tape trading circuit.
One of the many people who got hands on De Rode Demo was Saskia Sleger, the owner of the underground dancelabel DJAX. Recognizing the originality as well as the obvious talent, Sleger decided to contact the group and offer them a contract. Hardly believing what just happened to them, the young rappers immediately signed with DJAX, without reading the fine print. Def P later described this move in the band’s biography ‘Tien Jaar OP’ as impulsive and a bit naïve, but it turned out to be a good thing: the start of legendary career.
Now having to actually release cds instead of fooling around with a tapedeck, Pascal, Marco, Robin and Arthur franticly started writing out the material that they had come with before heading to a local studio in 1992, recording the first ever ‘Nederhop’ cd: the poorly produced yet explosive, hardcore and edgy twenty three song classic ‘Osdorp Stijl’ (Osdorp Style).
With an official release in stores, the group started on a journey that moved their live-shows away from the squat- and fret houses, onto the ‘ real’ alternative music scene. The album was an instant underground classic, which not only spawned an entire generation of Dutch Hip-hop acts at the time, but also quickly finding a following within a diverse group of alternative music fans such as punkers, metalheads, rockers and many alike.
The following two releases were plagued by the same production problems as their infamous debut, but through their sheer determination, explosive live shows and hardcore, relentless lyrical attitude became underground hits nevertheless. It wasn’t until they were asked to play the warm-up show at the biggest festival in the Netherlands, Pinkpop, that they got recognition from a larger audience. Their fourth cd entitled ‘Afslag Osdorp’ (Osdorp Exit), was released soon after the legendary festival appearance, and was the groups largest commercial success to that date. Riding the wave of word-to-mouth advertising following Pinkpop and their years on end of touring and self promoting (being ignored by mainstream media and critics), Afslag Osdorp sold thousands of copies; an achievement that was until then unthinkable for a Dutch rap act.
Later that year, with their popularity growing to a new height, Osdorp Posse played one of the most legendary and afterwards most talked about performances on the Dutch alternative music scene at the Lowlands Festival. Something that was euphemistically called a programming mistake, the group was set to play the smallest tent (Charlie) in the afternoon. Even though the Amsterdam crew warned the festival organisation about the possible consequences, the foursome’s advice to move their show to a bigger tent fell was ignored, resulting in half the festival attendees trying to fit in the small, claustrophobic space in anticipation of what was then one of the biggest things in Dutch music: Osdorp Posse. After the first couple of notes were played, the frantic crowd started to mosh, pogo and crowdsurf with such an enthusiasm that they nearly destroyed the entire tent. Def P later explained he had no idea how dangerous the situation was, that eventually led to an early ending of the gig when the crowd rushed to the stage, crushing the structure. No one got seriously hurt, yet everyone had witnessed and taken part in a legendary festival moment, talked about to this day.
In 1996 the group received the prestigious ‘ Pop Prijs’ (Pop Prize), as a recognition of their pioneering role in the Dutch hip-hop scene. That year also marked another legendary festival performance; the Dynamo Open Air festival – at that time the most important Heavy Metal event in the world – playing as the first and only hip-hop crew ever in front of more then a 100.000 longhaired metalheads, a large portion of whom were stoned Germans (enjoying the music all the same). The following year, ‘ Osdorp’ returned to Pinkpop, this time playing not once but twice: first on the small stage, returning on the final day at the main stage in front of 60.000 people.
After the commercial and artistic successes of albums such as ‘Briljant, Hard en Geslepen’ (Brilliant, Hard and Polished) – recorded with death metal band Nembrionic, and the chart success ‘Geendagsvlieg’ (literally: No day fly, as a play on words to the term ‘one day fly’, emphasizing their timelessness) the Posse left their long time label Djax to start up their own label called RAMP Records (consisting of the first letters in their names: Robin, Arthur, Marco, Pascal). In 2000, the group’s first release on their own turf called ‘ Kernramp’ (Nuclear Disaster) became their biggest commercial success, and remains so to this day. For the first time in their 12 year long career, Osdorp Posse even landed on the Dutch TOP 40 charts with their single ‘ Origineel Amsterdams’, which eventually ploughed into the top 10.
The release of their eighth album also marked the first change in line-up the group had seen since the early demo days: DJ ‘Deegmeester’ Daan – who already joined the band on stage for quite a while – became the fifth member of Osdorp Posse. That year they returned to Lowlands Festival as a five-piece, this time on a bigger stage. Once again controversy was part of the group’s performance, with Def P openly protesting against the nationwide crowd surf ban (as a result to the Roskilde tragedy earlier that year).
Around that time the music industry started crashing down. With programmes such as Napster and Kazaa providing fans with free – yet illegal – music, Osdorp Posse’s new label had a hard time lifting off. Every release after ‘ Kernramp’, such as ‘ Tegenstrijd” (meaning both Counter Battle, and Contradiction in Dutch) and Hollandse Hardcore Hip-Hop Helden all saw decreasing sales figures. At the same time, the genre the group created – Nederhop – had become a mainstream phenomena with acts such as Extince, Def Rhymz, and new school artists and groups like Raymster and Opgezwolle taking over the Dutch hiphop scene. Osdorp Posse, never being a favourite of the mainstream media – could only witness their own decline.
Around 2004, the group had plummeted back into the underground scene, once again playing the smaller venues. The groups hardcore following had eye for their later releases with bands such as Laberinto and Blind Justice, but stayed true to their heroes all the same.
Near the end of 2008, the group has announced to call it quits. After a release party of their final effort entitled ‘2 Decennia’ (Two Decades), Osdorp Posse embarked on a farewell tour, taking them to all the places they played, rocked the mike at, and witnessed their fanatic following go crazy to their hardcore style of performing.
The group’s swansong took place on their own turf, in the Amsterdam club De Melkweg in September of 2009, leaving a legacy that can not be ignored or forgotten: the invention and perfection of Nederhop.
Schijt Raakt Ventilator
Osdorp Posse Lyrics
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De Osdorp Posse die je fijn verraste
vanaf de dag dat er Nederlandse rap was
Vraag maar aan je opa en hij weet nog dat het vet was!
Dus oude feiten hoef ik jou niet meer te zeggen
De eerste de beste! Moet ik meer uitleggen?
Als jij van Hip-Hop weet, dan weet ik wat je weet
En ken je de O.P. niet, nou dan weet je geen reet!
variërend van respect tot aan een glazenregen
Van props tot proppen, maar we bleven door knokken
met in Nederlands hoppen tot die teven er voor dokken!
We slaagden met gratie als zeer beruchte fuckers
En zien een nieuwe generatie slimme vruchtenplukkers
En het is cool dat jij nu carriere maakt
Als je maar weet bij wie de schijt de ventilator raakt!
Duik weg! als de schijt de ventilator raakt
Duik weg! als de schijt de ventilator raakt
Duik weg! als de schijt de ventilator raakt
En bekken dicht voor de nare smaak!
Ik check die nieuwe rappers, met irritant getreuzel
Dat R&B-slakkentempo nonchalant geneuzel
Clandistiene chicks, want zij verdienen dik
Maar al die nieuwe shit heeft geen adrenalinekick!
Wie brengt hier al die tijd de echte roffe schijt?
Die urban boeren? Ik moet zeggen tot je spijt
dat niemand hier de crowd zo kan rocken als wij
We breiden ons uit, en we fokken d'r bij!
Wat jij! Je kan niet fokken met een legende
We dumpen je bende en maken ellende
Dus koop maar jodium, want we scheuren je huid
Want op het podium, daar breekt de pleuris uit!
De Osdorp Posse gaat weer te keer!
De podia breken en de tent gaat neer
En het is cool dat jij een lauwe liveshow maakt
Als je maar weet bij wie de schijt de ventilator raakt!
Duik weg! als de schijt de ventilator raakt
Duik weg! als de schijt de ventilator raakt
Duik weg! als de schijt de ventilator raakt
En bekken dicht voor de nare smaak!
Dit is de shit om uit je dak te gaan
En niet om in je dure nieuwe pak te staan
Want we rammen en beuken, ze duwen en trekken
Schrammen en deuken, en vele ruwe plekken
We rippen alle tenten in de winter en de lente
en werken het hardste voor de mindere centen
Inventief en onze tijd vooruit
Dus creatief wordt onze schijt geuit
De bekendere, stevige, niet aan trends onderhevige
band die je kent van levendige kickgevende
rapshows. Geen nepshows van neppro's,
sloom als fatso's en wack als crackho's
Fok dat! We kicken hetere shit
voor de betere kick, niemand is wreder dan dit
En het is cool dat jij je slappe plaatjes maakt
Als je maar weet bij wie de schijt de ventilator raakt!
Duik weg! als de schijt de ventilator raakt
Duik weg! als de schijt de ventilator raakt
Duik weg! als de schijt de ventilator raakt
En bekken dicht voor de nare smaak!
En bekken dicht voor de nare smaak!
The song "Schijt Raakt Ventilator" by Osdorp Posse is a powerful and assertive expression of the group's status and influence in the realm of Dutch rap. They introduce themselves as a force to be reckoned with from the very beginning, highlighting their long-standing presence in the genre and the impact they have had since the early days. The lyrics emphasize their resilience and determination, as they mention overcoming obstacles and continuing to fight for their place in the Dutch hip-hop scene.
The song also serves as a critique of the newer generation of rappers, whom they perceive to lack the raw energy and authenticity that made Osdorp Posse stand out. They proudly claim their position as legends and assert that nobody can match their ability to captivate a crowd. They use aggressive language and imagery to convey their intensity on stage and their ability to incite chaos and excitement among their audience.
Throughout the lyrics, there is an underlying message of staying true to oneself and not succumbing to trends or commercialization. Osdorp Posse prides themselves on their originality and the way they express their "shit" (music) without conforming to popular styles. They make it clear that they are not impressed by the success of others if they do not understand the struggle and the impact they have had.
Line by Line Meaning
Tering, tyfus! Wie zijn die gasten?
Wow, who are these guys? They are the Osdorp Posse who pleasantly surprised you from the day Dutch rap existed. Ask your grandpa and he'll remember how cool it was!
De Osdorp Posse die je fijn verraste
The Osdorp Posse, who pleasantly surprised you
vanaf de dag dat er Nederlandse rap was
since the day Dutch rap existed
Vraag maar aan je opa en hij weet nog dat het vet was!
Ask your grandpa and he still remembers how cool it was!
Dus oude feiten hoef ik jou niet meer te zeggen
So I don't need to tell you old facts anymore
De eerste de beste! Moet ik meer uitleggen?
The first and the best! Do I need to explain more?
Als jij van Hip-Hop weet, dan weet ik wat je weet
If you know about Hip-Hop, then I know what you know
En ken je de O.P. niet, nou dan weet je geen reet!
And if you don't know the O.P., well, then you don't know anything!
Knul! We hebben alles naar ons kanis gekregen
Fella! We got everything through hard work
variërend van respect tot aan een glazenregen
ranging from respect to being showered with attention
Van props tot proppen, maar we bleven door knokken
From props to teasing, but we kept fighting
met in Nederlands hoppen tot die teven er voor dokken!
hopping in Dutch until those bitches pay for it!
We slaagden met gratie als zeer beruchte fuckers
We succeeded gracefully as very infamous fuckers
En zien een nieuwe generatie slimme vruchtenplukkers
And we see a new generation of smart fruit pickers
En het is cool dat jij nu carriere maakt
And it's cool that you're making a career now
Als je maar weet bij wie de schijt de ventilator raakt!
Just know whose shit hits the fan!
Duik weg! als de schijt de ventilator raakt
Duck away when shit hits the fan
Duik weg! als de schijt de ventilator raakt
Duck away when shit hits the fan
Duik weg! als de schijt de ventilator raakt
Duck away when shit hits the fan
En bekken dicht voor de nare smaak!
And shut your mouth for the nasty taste!
Ik check die nieuwe rappers, met irritant getreuzel
I see those new rappers, with annoying hesitation
Dat R&B-slakkentempo nonchalant geneuzel
That R&B slug tempo, nonchalant nonsense
Clandistiene chicks, want zij verdienen dik
Covert chicks, 'cause they earn big
Maar al die nieuwe shit heeft geen adrenalinekick!
But all that new shit has no adrenaline kick!
Wie brengt hier al die tijd de echte roffe schijt?
Who's been bringing the real rough shit all this time?
Die urban boeren? Ik moet zeggen tot je spijt
Those urban farmers? I have to say, to your regret
dat niemand hier de crowd zo kan rocken als wij
that no one can rock the crowd here like us
We breiden ons uit, en we fokken d'r bij!
We expand, and we fuck 'em up!
Wat jij! Je kan niet fokken met een legende
What do you know! You can't mess with a legend
We dumpen je bende en maken ellende
We dump your gang and cause trouble
Dus koop maar jodium, want we scheuren je huid
So buy some iodine, 'cause we'll tear your skin
Want op het podium, daar breekt de pleuris uit!
Because on stage, all hell breaks loose!
De Osdorp Posse gaat weer te keer!
The Osdorp Posse goes wild again!
De podia breken en de tent gaat neer
Breaking the stages and tearing down the venue
En het is cool dat jij een lauwe liveshow maakt
And it's cool that you do a lukewarm live show
Als je maar weet bij wie de schijt de ventilator raakt!
Just know whose shit hits the fan!
Dit is de shit om uit je dak te gaan
This is the shit to go crazy to
En niet om in je dure nieuwe pak te staan
And not to stand in your expensive new suit
Want we rammen en beuken, ze duwen en trekken
Because we ram and bash, they push and pull
Schrammen en deuken, en vele ruwe plekken
Scratches and dents, many rough spots
We rippen alle tenten in de winter en de lente
We tear down all venues in winter and spring
en werken het hardste voor de mindere centen
and work hardest for lesser money
Inventief en onze tijd vooruit
Inventive and ahead of our time
Dus creatief wordt onze schijt geuit
So creatively, our shit is expressed
De bekendere, stevige, niet aan trends onderhevige
The more famous, solid, not subject to trends
band die je kent van levendige kickgevende
band you know for lively, adrenaline-rushing
rapshows. Geen nepshows van neppro's
rap shows. No fake shows from fake pros
sloom als fatso's en wack als crackho's
slow like chumps and wack like crackheads
Fok dat! We kicken hetere shit
Fuck that! We do hotter shit
voor de betere kick, niemand is wreder dan dit
for the better kick, no one is crueler than this
En het is cool dat jij je slappe plaatjes maakt
And it's cool that you make your weak records
Als je maar weet bij wie de schijt de ventilator raakt!
Just know whose shit hits the fan!
Duik weg! als de schijt de ventilator raakt
Duck away when shit hits the fan
Duik weg! als de schijt de ventilator raakt
Duck away when shit hits the fan
Duik weg! als de schijt de ventilator raakt
Duck away when shit hits the fan
En bekken dicht voor de nare smaak!
And shut your mouth for the nasty taste!
En bekken dicht voor de nare smaak!
And shut your mouth for the nasty taste!
Lyrics © O/B/O APRA AMCOS
Written by: DJ Daan, Def P, Seda
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