i am house
dr. henk Lyrics

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Wonderful counselor
Mighty God that’s who you are
Ever the same, you will live forever
You alone deserve my worship
So, I worship
I am here to bow down
I am here to say that you’re my God
You are lovely, altogether worthy

Altogether wonderful to me
I worship
I am here to bow down
I am here to say that you’re my God
You are lovely, altogether worthy
Altogether wonderful to me
Ijuru elu igwe ju uwa eh (You fill heaven and earth)
Ugwu anari atu egwu (The dangerous mountain that the climbers dread)
Okaka n’eme mma eh (The greatest One that’s doing good)
Chi ma obi m oh (The God that knows my heart)
Chi nwendu m oh (The God that owns my life)
You are more than what singers sing
You are more than what the preachers preach
You are higher than I can reach
You are mightier than I
I worship
I am here to bow down
I am here to say that you’re my God
You’re so beautiful, altogether worthy
Altogether wonderful to me
I worship
I am here to bow down
I am here to say that you’re my God
You are lovely, altogether worthy
Altogether wonderful to me
I have search through all the earth
But I found no one else like you
Ake ko fana naye (There is no one else like you)
Nna n itozulu etozu (You are perfect)
Oti mgbodomgbo (The noise of the great worrior)
Oloro ihe loro ihe loro enyi (The One that swallowed, what swallowed, what swallowed the elephant)
Oma mma di mma eh (The beautiful One that is embodies beautiful)
Onye m so adighi mfe (The one I’m with isn’t simple all )
Igbe oma n’eche ndu me eh (The flight case that protects my life)
Okwuru onye na-amaghi ekwu (The voice of the voiceless)
Ojere onye na-amaghi eje nu oh (The legs of the cripple)
Okwa gi na-eburu m agha zoro ezo (Are you not One fighting my hidden battles)
Onye oma n’isolu uso chioma eh (Good God you are so sweet)
I worship
I am here to bow down
I am here to say that you’re my God
You’re lovely, altogether worthy
Altogether wonderful to me
You are worthy
You are lovely
You are wonderful
You are beautiful

You’re lovely, altogether worthy
Altogether wonderful to me

Overall Meaning

In "I Am House," Dr. Henk expresses deep reverence and adoration for God. The lyrics convey a sense of awe and recognition of God's greatness and eternal nature. The opening lines acknowledge God as a wonderful counselor and mighty God, emphasizing His unchanging nature and eternal existence. Dr. Henk declares that God alone deserves worship, and he humbly bows down before Him.

The songs' verses continue to extol God's qualities and characteristics. The lyrics reference God filling heaven and earth, symbolizing His omnipresence. The mention of a dangerous mountain that climbers dread illustrates God's power and might. He is described as the greatest One who does good and as the God who knows the depths of one's heart and owns one's life.

The chorus reiterates the act of worship and the proclamation of God's supremacy. Dr. Henk expresses that God surpasses the abilities of singers and preachers, emphasizing His transcendence and sovereignty. The lyrics convey a sense of surrender and recognition of God's beauty, worthiness, and wonderfulness.

Overall, "I Am House" is a worship song that seeks to honor and exalt God for His unique qualities, eternal existence, and surpassing greatness.

Line by Line Meaning

Wonderful counselor
You are an amazing advisor

Mighty God that’s who you are
You are a powerful deity

Ever the same, you will live forever
You will remain unchanged and eternal

You alone deserve my worship
Only you are worthy of my devotion

So, I worship
Therefore, I offer my adoration

I am here to bow down
I have come to humbly submit myself

I am here to say that you’re my God
I am here to declare you as my deity

You are lovely, altogether worthy
You are enchanting and completely deserving

Altogether wonderful to me
Completely marvelous in my eyes

Ijuru elu igwe ju uwa eh
You fill the heavens and the earth

Ugwu anari atu egwu
You are the dangerous mountain that climbers fear

Okaka n’eme mma eh
You are the greatest One who does good

Chi ma obi m oh
You are the God who knows my heart

Chi nwendu m oh
You are the God who owns my life

You are more than what singers sing
You surpass the praises of singers

You are more than what the preachers preach
You exceed the teachings of preachers

You are higher than I can reach
You are beyond my grasp

You are mightier than I
You are stronger than me

I have searched through all the earth
I have thoroughly explored the entire world

But I found no one else like you
Yet, I discovered no one comparable to you

Ake ko fana naye
There is no one else like you

Nna n itozulu etozu
You are perfect

Oti mgbodomgbo
The noise of the great warrior

Oloro ihe loro ihe loro enyi
The One that swallowed, what swallowed, what swallowed the elephant

Oma mma di mma eh
The beautiful One that embodies beauty

Onye m so adighi mfe
The one I'm with isn't simply ordinary

Igbe oma n’eche ndu me eh
The flight case that protects my life

Okwuru onye na-amaghi ekwu
The voice of the voiceless

Ojere onye na-amaghi eje nu oh
The legs of the cripple

Okwa gi na-eburu m agha zoro ezo
You are the One fighting my hidden battles

Onye oma n’isolu uso chioma eh
Good God, you are so sweet

You are worthy
You are deserving

You are lovely
You are beautiful

You are wonderful
You are amazing

You are beautiful
You are attractive

You’re lovely, altogether worthy
You are enchanting, completely deserving

Altogether wonderful to me
Completely marvelous in my eyes

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Written by: Frank Orji

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Comments from YouTube:

Maelle Saliou

2y↑8.3K

The patient abused the poor guy so much when he was a kid that just seeing his abuser again gave him a panic attack. Yeah moral obligations or not, if pressing charges weren't enough to stop a child molester then I can understand the nurses feelings. Glad Karma got to that child abuser in the end

Andrew Finnell

2y↑187

It’s interesting because for me, the nurses killed him. And the examiner knew what happened and got the hint from the doctor in the end.

MJavier Zorrilla

2y↑220

that wasn't karma, karma would it been 'jail time as the prison bitch", or immobilized for life knowing who did it and why; dead is a escape not a punishment.

theiran

2y↑175

As a doctor or nurse, you have to leave your personal feelings out of the equation. If you can't do the job as assigned, then you need to find another job.

For example, a friend was telling me of one of her classmates when she was going to college to be a psychologist.
Said classmate, when having to do supervised counseling to patients, she refused to counsel LGBT on religious basis. She was told that she had to do so as part of the course work or she wouldn't graduate. She was also told that if she dropped and went to another college, that said college would be informed about her aversion.
So, 3 1/2 years into her Masters, she had to change her degree.

Alyss Mathrin

2y↑69

It only takes once to scar a child for life.

Hulkling's Boyfriend

2y↑64

@Andrew Finnell they didn't kill him, the epi needles were indeed from a previous patient. He died from a theochromacytoma.

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K Landgraf

2y↑4.3K

I love how all the nurses go after him after his panic attack. It’s the sign of a good team IMO when they are there to support each other and that they drop everything to make sure one of their own is ok. But also can’t imagine how tough it is to see your abuser in your place of work knowing that well not in this case but in another case would’ve walked out

JaxLittles

1y↑31

If it were my workplace, it would only to get the gossip sadly.

Jasmin

1y↑26

@JaxLittles ^^ THIS. Most hospital workplaces, you’ll be crying in a corner by yourself while your fellow nurses just gossip about you

howard croft

1y↑22

A good workplace? Kill patients on the word of one person? Do you trust your workmates enough to do life in prison for them?

Joana Rito

1y↑11

all this nurses should be in jail or losing there job at least there is a reason we have courts and not mob justice you trusting on a person word years after, even with the right procedures we get innocent people in jail

Horlock X

1y↑2

He would be part of the LGBT as love is love right hahaa cant have it both ways haha!! leftist's logic

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Kat Papper

2y↑5.4K

Ethan’s face when Monique told him what that guy did to Hank the nurse, imagine being told that your patient is a child molester and abused someone you work with. Hippocratic oath or not, must be tough. I could never do this job

Thicky McGhee

2y↑23

Yeah, because this happens all the time? LOL! Get a grip. It's a TV show.

Melinda Unknown

2y↑96

Dude, imagine being a public defender having to defend such people and get them off; even when you know they are guilty. I read a fiction book years ago where a public defender who was forced to defend such people went crazy from doing it. The public defender then began to kill every sex offender in his state in the order that they appeared on the sex offender registry. He killed quite a few of them before he was caught. I do not remember the end. He either was sent to prison or a mental hospital.

Nurse Lex

2y↑74

I'ma nurse...we can refuse an assignment especially if it will put yourself, your patient, or your license at risk.

S A

2y↑62

@Thicky McGhee dude. It can happen in real life. So many different patients come in hospitals everyday God know who they actually are

PatRNBSN

2y↑66

@Thicky McGhee It's real life. In my 45 years as a nurse, I have taken care of many prisoners who were brought to my hospital. It is an unwritten rule that we are never told why they are prisoners because it could affect our care of them. Only once did the guard tell us - and the patient was a child molester. By then he had received "justice" from the other prisoners in the past, so he had the mental capacity of a baby. He received professional care as our patient, but as far as compassion in our hearts - you could probably say that was a different story.

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Madeline Seyer

2y↑1.8K

This is such a tough spot for healthcare professionals. Especially when the victim is a coworker you care about, it’s hard to remove your feelings and remember that you as his doctor or nurse are not the judge of his past transgressions. You are there to offer him the adequate amount of care. That is it.

Eileen Snow

1y↑51

If I’m being honest with myself, I could never be a nurse for a lot of reasons, but this one is the most difficult. I would probably magically go deaf and blind when that man coded. “I need a glass of water.” “Oh look, it’s time for my lunch break!”

Viridiana Cortes

1y↑26

I would probably just admit conflict of interest and get someone else to care for him.

Love

41w↑9

@Eileen Snowthat’s why you shouldn’t be a doctor, some people will shine in this area you will shine in another job (I just realised how passive aggressive this sounds I’m sorry it’s definitely not aggressive 😂)

Eileen Snow

41w↑8

@Love haha it’s okay, you’re right and I agree. It’s always good to know your own limitations!

Nah Bruh

29w↑4

It’s been a year but I want to remind you that YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM

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Bobby Friedrich

2y↑1.3K

As a nurse I'm with Dr. Choi. At the very least I would've told the head nurse (or doctor if asked) that for personal reasons I feel unable to provide the adequate care.

Mr Meseeks

1y↑76

All of them should be fired, all of them, and take their license away.

Anthony Jenkins

1y↑37

I agree and they should be fired..I'm a nurse and we have a job to do and it's our ethics to follow

Scott Mc

1y↑27

Unfortunately it doesn't work like that. Doctor and nurses have to help everyone. Whether it's a mass shooter or a child molester. They don't get to pick and choose who they want to help. It's not a job for everyone.

Bobby Friedrich

1y↑38

@Scott Mc it... does work like that... of course not in a "this patient is annoying so I refuse" but if you can give a good reason (knowing his victim personally, affecting you emotionally ect. as long as you don't just... ignore it like the nurses did here) your superiors should have your back.
It's a bit of a gray area legally because you don't have the history yourself but a sensible superior who remembers nurses are always understaffed isn't gonna fire you off you are reasonable.

Scott Mc

1y↑10

@Bobby Friedrich - Yes, in certain circumstances a nurse or doctor can have themselves removed from a situation. And generally speaking a good boss would work with their employees and find a solution if it's available. But when every nurse refuses to help a patient in need... there is no alternative. Therefore, refusing the help a patient in need would be criminal.

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Amelia Rose

1y↑580

Dr. Choi did amazing in this situation, you can see he was trying to protect his nurses from getting hurt by this guy by lawsuits/liability issues. He did the autopsy off the books to make sure that if something wasn't wrong, he could help protect April. While at first glance it seems like he is protecting the abuser, he really is protecting his team.

Lavan S

49w↑51

And April is just the worst in this episode. Firstly, Dr. Choi comes up and asks out of concern for the abuse victim what's happening, and she shuts him out! Then, she acts like he knows what this patient did, when she's the one who stopped him from knowing! It's insane to me, because Dr.Choi went above and beyond this episode in terms of ethical duties and professional obligations, and it's treated like he's out of line for thinking a crew of people who were totally cool with mishandling a patient's care to the point of stabbing him with needles, might be responsible for the inexplicable amount of chemicals in his system.

Kai

31w↑13

@Lavan S I disagree with the first part, she shut him out and didn't tell him because it wasn't for her to tell and she was protecting the male nurse and his privacy

Lavan S

31w↑6

@Kai except you can't both not tell someone about what's going on, and then get mad that the person doesn't know what's happening???

Kai

31w↑5

@Lavan S so you want her to violate the privacy of the nurse, or be completely fine with a child molester?

Lavan S

31w↑4

@Kai said neither of those things, at all. You literally just assumed that of me.

She just shouldn't be angry at Choi. From his perspective, he only knows something's wrong from the nurses treating the patient (he doesn't know is a child molester) horribly, by sticking him purposefully badly. You can either:
a) tell Choi with the permission of the victim nurse, so he understands the situation and can manage it while being fair to the nurses
b) tell him nothing, and not be mad at him when he questions why all the nurses are abusing what seems to him like an innocent person

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Val Ned

2y↑5.7K

The people commenting on the ethics of this seem to have mistaken this for a documentary. It’s a fictional show where the bad guy gets what he deserves. It’s a temporary escape in a world where justice for victims is a rarity.

Rajani Wolf

2y↑216

I think it's important to have discussions about ethics, because we encounter ethical dilemmas in our real lives that we need to be able to work through.
On the other hand, that is a good point; it's nice to watch a show where the bad guy gets punished to get some escape from the real world.

Seishin

2y↑113

You seem to forget alot of these episodes are based on real life events. If you dont want part of the discussion then you're free to ignore it and go else where. Otherwise I think it's important for people to have mature conversations on these topics because that how we as people learn.

Val Ned

2y↑71

@Seishin I’ll stay right here thanks 😊
Any comment on here is someone’s opinion and part of a discussion. Disagreeing with a comment and sharing that is healthy and how we learn. If you aren’t capable of that, I’d advise you to follow your own advice and either ignore it or go elsewhere.

Neko_chan

2y↑24

it's not all fictional tho...things like these do happen I bet. More so, the justice system is flawed either way in reality and in shows.

Cynthia Martinez

2y↑15

@Val Ned says the one incapable of continuing a valid argument they don’t want to discuss, because they disagree.

Not to be rude, just making an observation, u seem to have contradicted yourself, because this person genuinely wanted to have a conversation about theirs and your opinion.

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Steve O

2y↑4.6K

As soon as Ethan realized that there was a conflict and he wouldn’t get optimal care I would have transferred him to a different hospital.

Pup Bruno

2y↑439

That would be the ethical choice but not the moral choice.

andyt2k

2y↑365

Yeah but you're using logic and stuff doctors/nurses would actually do, these people would have been fired a dozen times over for stuff they do in this show

theiran

2y↑88

@Pup Bruno morality is subjective. What is moral for some is immoral for others.

Alfo Bootidir

2y↑22

true. also if I were a ch0m0ped and I saw a victim on my medical staff, I would probably go to different hospital.... unless I'm particularly narcistic or sadistic.

igiveup

2y↑6

Why not a different ward?

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Jim Smith

1y↑548

I like the lead doctor. You can tell he is upset at what he knows and wants to confront the patient, but he puts his feeling aside to do his job when everyone around him cant, it shows true leadership.

Fool Slayer

32w↑2

I would give that monster the bare minimum treatment.

Winter's Babyy

28w

Yeah, but in some other episodes he definitely lets his feelings win tho, multiple times too. Seems like he is just a little bit okay with child molestation. Because why would he harass Nurse April like that.

Poopstick

27w

@Fool Slayer You aren't legally able to do that.

Poopstick

27w

@Winter's Babyy He didn't harass her. No one told him what was going on, as far as he knew they wern't giving him care because they just didnt want to.

Winter's Babyy

27w

@Poopstick Clearly you have never seen the show. He knows how seriously April takes her job so he knows she would never refuse care to any patient for no reason. He is just always a douche in every episode, especially to her.

ILRST

2y↑2.7K

It’s very illegal and wrong obviously…but my God does it feel good to see it ya know.

Zell E

2y↑33

Agreed

Tryxo So

2y↑50

Just illegal.

em🖤

2y↑118

@Tryxo So but soooo good to see

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Rosemary

2y↑2.1K

Super weird to see people in this comment section defending this guy so much. 30 years and plenty of students, who knows how many lives he must have ruined, but HIS must be protected? He got away scot-free, too.

R00K

2y↑236

It’s more of the sense of medical practice and the nurses deliberately near borderline breaking the Hippocratic oath. Dude was horrible no doubt but still on the medical side of things all those nurses should be reprimanded for their actions against a patient either be pure or evil it’s their job

AnvilMAn603

2y↑54

@R00K nurses dont take the oath but it doesnt who it is, they have a duty to provide care

hduwbwgwi

2y↑88

If Adolf himself came into the hospital, you still gotta provide medical care

Rai

2y↑49

@AnvilMAn603 where are you getting... nurses don't take the oath?

according to the American Nurses Association, they do.

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La Paz Girl

2y↑986

I had to see my abuser several days after he attacked me. I was 10 years old. I felt sick to my stomach and my heart was racing. It’s a horrible horrible feeling 🥹🥹

Travel The World

2y↑61

That must have been so hard. I hope you are doing better now.

lurtzy

1y↑4

Fake

damien

1y↑17

@lurtzy gigachad really wouldn't like you

dbeloved02

Southeastern Hub ❤

sammie

1y↑2

i was dating my abuser and i see him at high school every day, it makes me feel so nauseous. i know how you feel 🫂

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Katelyn Main

50w↑148

I know that feeling. I worked at a fast food restaurant and I had to talk to my abuser (a regular customer). It’s a horrible gut wrenching feeling. He lives in the same town as me unfortunately. When I see him out in public I walk the other way.

Emily Münch

47w↑5

I'm so sorry that you have to go through this ❤ I'm sending you so much love!

s

44w↑5

Some day you will be healed enough to tell your story to the town and the whole world if you want it. I know you will. it might not be soon, but you will. Stay strong, and get out of that town when you're able, if that's something you think will help.

Zoila Lulu

44w↑2

I'm so sorry! <3

Winter's Babyy

28w↑3

You handled his food and nothing happened to him?? Lmaoo. So many good people here. I hope my abuser never let’s his guard down around me, I’m not as nice as y’all are.

Winter's Babyy

28w↑1

You handled his food and nothing happened to him?? Lmaoo. So many good people here. I hope my abuser never let’s his guard down around me, I’m not as nice as y’all are.

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NightOwl_30

2y↑300

As someone whose abusers never got what they deserved watching this is so satisfying.

AgentRiley007

44w↑5

I'm sorry for your suffering. The legal system definitely needs to be looked at again, but with cases like Johnny Depp and Amber Heard I can somewhat see why some victims aren't taken seriously.

Brenda Nolt

27w

This...🤦🏻‍♀️

Tobias Walker

27w

Mine never got what they deserved. I doubt they ever will.

Brenda Nolt

27w

@Tobias Walker Because it "never happened" and they "don't remember" anything...😤

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Sully T

2y↑921

I can’t believe they didn’t immediately tell him what was going on. It’s his patient he has a right to know why no one will help him

Cotton Rain

2y↑161

I get what you mean but at the same time, it was a serious matter, the nurse team only knew because they were there when the nurse had the mental breakdown after seeing his old instructor again. I do think they should’ve told him but I understand why none felt it was their right to. Even the nurse he did ask about it told him to ask someone else since it wasn’t suppose to be her business or her pain to share

Ry

2y↑122

It wasn't their story to tell.

Hi Almond Joy

2y↑54

@Ry My thoughts exactly. Especially since sometimes, people don't want others to know what happened to them... People look at you and treat you differently... Or sometimes you're just not ready to face your trauma, or the questions that'll come with you revealing it... Sometimes revealing it unwillingly (even willingly) rehashes everything and can seriously damage mental health.

It's why it's encouraged for people to tell others their own time if they want (assuming the crime isn't ongoing or in investigation of course).

TheComet

1y↑11

I think they didn't want to tell him, cause they knew he would react the way he did. Tell them to follow the code.

susan bob

1y↑1

It’s a tv show

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Corey Payne

2y↑318

I can related to this episode a tad bit. I'm a healthcare worker and I work with all kinds of people. One time, I was taking a pretty talkative prisoner to his tests and he outright admitted to me that he molested minors and basically bragged about it. He was outright disgusting but I put that aside because its not my job to judge him. My job is to get him medical care. Even if you're a prisoner, no matter what you have done, you are still a patient like everyone else. I couldn't stand the guy, but that's just how it is. Imo, Ethan should have requested to have him moved to a different department because it was clear that the nurses were against him. In reality, April and Doris would have been fired too

Missy💋

1y↑78

I’m not a nurse, but I cannot honestly say that I would have treated that guy better if I were. People like that don’t deserve compassion and moralistic care.

neuralwarp

25w

But you're happy to take their money.

Chris Roney

2y↑292

The male nurse did great acting u can see the fear in his eyes

Michael Kelley

52w↑8

agreed, it's underrated

Yves Angelic

26w↑3

I just love how the nurses sticked together despite the ethical and moral issues with it 😂

Heather Z

47w↑32

As a nurse that works with the lowest of the low, I have to admit it takes a very special kind of person to work with this population. It most definitely is not for everyone, however we, as medical professionals took a Hippocratic oath to do no harm. Do these folks deserve it? Not up to me to decide. What is even more tragic is someone not making it through on my watch to give victims families the right to see the perpetrator answer for their crime and finally seek Justice for their loved one.

みしまゆか

30w

I'm no doctor or any kind of medical officer or nurse and I'm not medically educated. I just know that I must do my job and I must do it right. But what happens if the client I'm working for/with is my SA? I'm in a bit of a mental pinch. My SA died peacefully while I have to live with the fact that I trusted him and he put his hands all over me and damaged me beyond repair. On a professional standpoint, regardless of who he is, I should still serve/work for him. But on a personal level, I feel like I want to projectile-shoot my vomit straight to his face. It's a double-edged sword, in a way.

tsaligrass

30w

if the past 3 years proved, they disobey their oath. They made people violate their beliefs and forced them do things without their approval

Moe

26w

@tsaligrass like what?

tsaligrass

26w

@Moe the clot shot and obey authortarin mandates for the scamdepmic

tsaligrass

26w

@Moe passing laws that violate 1st amdendment like michiagan law that makes it worse then misdemeanor for misgender someone

satsumamoon

2y↑401

"Im a piano teacher" he happened to not mention the amazing fact that his identical twin who lived three doors down the road also taught piano to young boys .

Laine Dillard

2y↑21

😂 oops

SunBunz

1y↑31

I actually thought, "what if this isn't the right guy?" hahah OOPS indeed!

Max McCullough

1y↑16

"I'm honestly surprised I can get business after they put my uncle on that registry."

Kageoni187

2y↑118

This is why it is so important for a team to share with each other and trust each other. In an ER you need that bond in those hard times. What that poor character went through, people who do that don’t deserve to die because that is a release, but they definitely don’t deserve to live free or protected. Can’t find a body if there isn’t one to find.

Krystabelle

2y↑61

I agree with Ethan. It's just not our right. As medical staff, they have to do their jobs. No matter who they're dealing with.

JackInTheBox9

43w↑2

I agree

Fany L.I.

32w↑6

Disagree

Chas

27w

I agree

Ladenna Young

26w

Yep.

John Costello

2y↑732

If the patient (who clearly deserved what he got) did in fact pass "naturally", then.. Can someone who watched the full episode explain to me why there was 4 epi's in the trash? Still seems suspicious.

Chairle

2y↑308

He did pass naturally, the Epi was from another patient and wasn’t cleared out, it’s a red flag for the entire episode

Honey Bunny

2y↑69

Could of been other epi pens from other patients and the doctors threw them away in the same trash which led up to 4

John Costello

2y↑68

I see.. so the nurses still weren't really doing their jobs correctly since they didn't log those 3 (most likely not, but potentially life threatening) uses of epi's.

Púca Miscellaneous

2y↑67

@Chairle red flag or red herring?

Chairle

2y↑41

@Púca Miscellaneous damn I knew that wasn’t the right one

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cinnarenaroll

2y↑554

Geez I know it's fictional but as a nursing student it makes me wonder how I'd react in a situation like this. I suppose it's similar to how lawyers feel when they have to "defend" horrible people? Like it's their job. Sure you can turn down the task and have someone else do it if you're that uncomfortable but at the end of the day all patients need care. This just gets me choked up though

EmperorOfMan🏳️‍🌈‍⃠

2y↑9

Lawyers can't be good lawyers if they're good, honest people.

Rai

2y↑30

@EmperorOfMan🏳️‍🌈‍⃠ that didn't make any sense. try again.

PatRNBSN

2y↑30

Retired nurse here with 45 years experience. Normally you are not told what the prisoner did to be incarcerated because it could affect his care. However, once we were told by the guard and the patient was a convicted child molester. He had the mental capacity of a baby by then because in the past the other prisoners delivered their own form of justice. While he received professional care, you can guess what we felt in our hearts. Like you said, we can refuse to accept a patient if there is some extenuating circumstance, or conflict of interest, but it gets tricky if no one wants to care for the patient. This is not the only scenario in which this type of conflict can happen. If such a conflict arises, your hospital will probably have someone who can help resolve it, such as a hospital chaplain, social worker or someone on the ethics committee. Or have the staff talk it out with your manager. Good luck in your studies - it is a wonderful profession in spite of all the difficult situations you may encounter.

Aryn Rowland

2y↑7

@Rai They’re saying that lawyers, in general, are crooked. That you can’t be a good person and a lawyer at the same time.

universal

2y↑3

They would remove you from the situation and use alternative staff so it's all just a really fake senario!

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Cece love

2y↑401

Unfortunately when you take an oath especially in the medical field you have to put patient care above your feelings. Even murders are supposed to be treated decently.

Reesa Allen

2y↑27

It’s funny how we pick and choose who gets the right to humane treatment. 😂😂

Ry

2y↑58

@Reesa Allen treat humane people humanely. Let the abusers be neglected. Sounds fair to me

Doris Payne

Medical feel?

craig clermond

2y↑28

@Ry, then you become no better than the abuser. so if you let someone die because you refused to help, for example, you then because just as heinous as the person you hated and open yourself up to others treating you the same. Always remember karma follows us. If you live on hate, then it comes back to you.

kagen lim

2y↑23

@craig clermond You know this is BS and yet you spout it

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Oujia Board

2y↑305

"Enough to keep me occupied"

Literally his last words.

Viridiana Cortes

1y↑21

What’s most terrifying is that he seems so friendly and normal. If this was another episode, he could have just been some nice piano teacher with heart problems.

Jason Lor

2y↑99

I have friends who work in Law Enforcements. When they have to guard inmates that are on hospital visits, no one outside of the institution can know about the crimes that they committed for this very reason. Many people can get very emotional and let that dictate their actions. It could be the medical team or other patients and people nearby who were victims or know of any victims of those crimes. Thankfully the team in this show worked together and had an understanding.

Merlin's House of free readings

44w↑1

We could look it up. I worked at a hospital that had a state inmate floor.
We knew what they did.
We could look up their photo and info and next parole date. All that info is easily accessed. It’s public info.

TheBreechie

40w↑1

Here, in Australia, its a breach of the prisoners rights to tell anyone what they did - The rule has nothing to do with quality of health care should the crime be revealed.

Anna T

29w↑5

I’m a former unit secretary/coordinator for a floor in a hospital and a patient murdered one of our nurses brothers and only received 6 years it was awful. She didn’t treat him but it was hard for him she cried the entire shift.

SonicGlitchmaster1

1y↑32

All of this would’ve been avoided if they had just informed the doctor of what was going on from the get go. There was zero point in keeping him in the dark for something like this

Poor Finian

2y↑17

What a coincidence the guy had a rare condition that explained away his sudden death. But that still doesn't explain the four empty ampules in the trash... And for people not working in the medical field, it's probably difficult to understand just how unethical the nurses' behavior was. Bottom line, it doesn't matter who your patient is, you treat them all the same. The minute you make an exception it becomes easier to do it again and then again, and soon you have people being treated differently due to differences in race, religion, political ideology, etc... I don't know any real hospital unit that would have tolerated an entire nursing staff ignoring a doctor's order and patient the way they did, if only for the obvious legal exposure. In the end, you don't have to like the guy, you don't even have to be pleasant -- just professional.

Deihdeih Cing

47w↑28

i loved the fact that all the nurses were go after the abuser. true friendship lmfaooo

JackInTheBox9

43w↑5

It’s still not right in their workplace. They could have really hurt him and he could sue

chloe marie strudel

28w↑1

@JackInTheBox9blah blah blah

Morgan V.

1y↑38

It feels so nice to see someone get what they deserve though

Crystal Rusmisel

1y↑19

My abuser committed suicide many many years after the assault without ever having to Answer for what he did to me and countless others and yes there are others he abused. I suffered in silence for so long it messed with me mentally. I was 7 at the time and he was 16. His mom helped cover up the abuse. Being my mom’s best friend and my babysitter I was always left alone with him. Whenever she found out what he was doing to me she brainwashed me into believing I’d get in trouble not him. After a year of abuse and she finding out I wasn’t only one she hauled ass out of the state we lived in. Nothing was done about what he did to us girls. I found out some years ago that he’d committed suicide and honestly I’m more angry that he took the cowardly way out.

Rockers R.G.

1y↑2

I can’t imagine the types of monsters that do the crime and then other monsters that defend them. I hope you’re able to heal

Juicy Blue Will

46w↑26

The main issue is that they took so long to tell Dr Choi so he was left running around not knowing why no one was acting normally.

Benjamin Rapp

1y↑28

Quite the ethical quandary. I wouldn't blame someone either way, for not wanting to treat him or upholding their hippocratic oath. I know it's technically wrong, but I honestly wouldn't blame someone for euthanizing a child molester. In my eyes, you cannot possibly go lower than harming a child.

C.W.Simpson Productions

1y↑9

I get the nurses’ feelings, but that type of behavior opens them all up to lawsuits and only leads to them losing their jobs and the abuser getting a huge payday.

M. Moreno

42w↑5

The nurse team probably shows the most unprofessional practice I’ve ever seen. regardless of the patients past it’s your duty to help people medically. But I think it’s even worse keeping other medical professionals in the dark about the situation and not saying anything

RogueMustangMare

1y↑19

I do understand where the nurses are coming from but they do have to be professional no matter what the patient has done or is doing. The nurse has an ethical and humane profession and as such needs to extend that to every patient that comes under their care.

Sapphire Star

1y↑1

Legally speaking, a nurse or a doctor, on an individual level, can refuse to treat a patient if emotional hindrance comes into play. If a nurse/doctor doesn't want to help a patient because he's a child molester, they can refuse to help. But they have to sign a document stating that this nurse/doctor stating why they refuse to help, and agree that they are not to be let anywhere near the patient and can't even enter the room. They'll simply be reassigned to another patient. As for the patient themselves, they'll either be assigned a new doctor or sent to another hospital.

It's to prevent any conflict of interest and any real malpractice that could come about if a nurse/doctor has their judgement impaired due to emotions. Like what we saw from that one nurse who deliberately stabbed the guy with the needle while trying to draw blood. She obviously did that on purpose and should of been dismissed or terminated on the spot.

RogueMustangMare

1y↑2

@Sapphire Star that's understandable for Hank but for the other nurses they had no right to do what they did. I get they're mad that the guy hurt their friend but as we saw with one nurse she was almost in trouble for possibly killing the patient. If the Dr hadn't insisted that the doctor in the morgue look closer it could have ended badly for her.

Sapphire Star

1y↑2

@RogueMustangMare It's not just the victim of the guys actions; literally any doctor/nurse can sign a document saying they are refusing to treat a certain patient because they don't like them. As long as it's not an actual prejudice like racism or homophobia, they can drop out of helping a patient for any reason.

This whole thing could of been avoided if Dr. Choi had simply gotten the nurses to sign reassignment papers. Or better yet just left them alone when they made it clear they didn't want to help the guy and found others who would.

Christoper Aaron

1y↑53

The lady nurses comforting the male nurse that was scared was nice. Trauma sucks.

Story Time with Aunt Nonnie

1y↑6

Completely unethical to treat a patient that way regardless of what he did. The nurse he molested wouldn’t have to treat him but the others would. As a nurse, I once had to treat a patient who had been involved in a DUI accident that killed a teenage niece of a coworker of mine. Didn’t have to like it, but as a professional, I did my job.

Cassidy Rhamy

30w↑4

My abuser offed himself when I and a few other kids came forward, thank god, but I absolutely understand that poor man’s reaction. If I even meet someone with the same name or a similar face, or acts similar, I flip. Bless everyone in there for taking that man’s side immediately, I don’t know if I could still work with that patient if I knew he did something like that to anyone, and that’s one of many reasons I’m not a nurse. Bare minimum is too good for some of these people. Time to watch some Chris Hansen and make myself feel better 😂

Sᴷᴼᴼᴿᵀᴸᴱ

1y↑19

it took dr. choi to go around nurses asking for WHY instead of any of the nurses coming forward and saying because we're discriminating him because our friend A got a bad history with him.

it's not because he's just a child molester but because he's a child molester that has a history with one of the nurses.
it became a personal thing after knowing that, but if he's unaffiliated with anyone, they would've treated him normally.

JackInTheBox9

43w↑3

Choi is the head doctor he should know why his nurses aren’t effectively testing his patient

Brie 🇺🇦

29w

You’re making an assumption. If they’d found out he was a CM through other means, I’m sure the outcome would’ve been the same. I HOPE it would’ve been the same….

Karishma Ahmed

44w↑18

That was horrible. If a nurse doesn't want to care for a patient, say so clearly and tell the doctor to get someone else. Deliberately denying a patient proper care is completely UNETHICAL no matter who he is or what he's done. If nurses start acting on their feelings and justify it, they are in trouble. They got away with neglecting one patient so now they'll think of it the next time theres someone they don't like or don't want to treat. Its unacceptable.

Neon Swirls

2y↑231

There was a similar case on law and order. Poor kid was traumatized even as an adult.

Sinéad, the Irish one

2y↑23

Yes you never get over it

Mia

49w↑4

It’s never leaves you. Even the name can trigger panic attacks/full on breakdowns in some victims.

Robinée Phillips

43w↑1

In that episode the kid actually became a child molester himself

Melly_JK

2y↑23

Even if I encountered someone that hurt me in the past or hurt someone I love, that doesn't give me the right to go above the law and take it into my own hands. The same goes for these nurses and other jobs too. Yes, his issues were found to be caused by a tumor, but had the nurses continued to not care for the patient, he likely would've died. Meaning they all would have had part in killing him even though it wasn't direct. They all would've been charged with negligence. Instead, they could've treated him and alerted authorities to then go through the process of getting him convicted of his crimes.

Laine Dillard

2y↑5

I agree 100%. No one is defending this monster, but you can’t break the law because of how you feel about someone.

probably not captain america

1y↑4

The law is not morality, and conflating the two will make you a monster

Diana Martinez

2y↑84

As a survivor. Good job from the nurses would be happy to be in that team

ThatVirgoChickk1995🌟☕

43w↑1

I'm a survivor as well and They could have chose NOT to care for him. If you can't separate your own feelings from your job don't be a fucking nurse!

Richard Watson

2y↑56

My dad is a murderer in Ely state prison. Solitary, he had prostate cancer, 12 years later he is still breathing and stubbornly was cured. I wish I had the nurses tending to him. He may be alive but unhappy and that's enough for me

Cece love

2y↑802

Dorris was definitely stabbing him 😂😂😂

GorgeouslyReal T.V.

2y↑9

Ikr

Ry

2y↑77

As she should 😌🏆

MrsAzlChang

2y↑25

I love her. I wish she had more of a story.

Brennetta Lorraine

2y↑1

I swear

Dranix Rush

1y↑1

@Ry No.

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Debbie Herrera

38w↑1

I know it’s just a show but sure this has really happened in really life and I for one feel that the nurses were not wrong. Child abusers don’t deserve good care.

The Magnum Buck

2y↑322

Choi is in the right here, it does not matter the circumstances that occurred in the past, keep the nurse he molested out of the room, it is their job to render care to no matter who

Pulacascar %

2y↑55

They can literally have their license revoked for refusing to serve treatment

Samy

2y↑38

@Pulacascar % Healthcare workers can have a right to refuse care if they have been abused by a patient and also a couple of other exceptions. The patient is just transferred to a different care provider. You don't want a practitioner to begrudgingly work on a patient, because that runs the risk of the patient receiving second-rate healthcare. However, you can't refuse treatment if the situation is an emergency (as an EMT, I am not allowed to refuse to do CPR on a patient for any reason). Medical shows are awesome because they inspire people to work in the field, but they often relay extremely simplified processes to actual healthcare practice. This situation is dramatized, the nurse would simply not come in contact with the patient for the remainder of their treatment, and any nurse that treated the patient differently because of the situation would also likely be asked not to give care for the safety of the patient.

Andrew Finnell

2y↑8

@Pulacascar % Doctors fire their patients all the time. I’m not sure where you’re getting your information from. Doctors do not have an obligation to treat a specific patient at the patients request.

Pulacascar %

2y↑6

@Andrew Finnell they can fire them if they want to. But they can’t promise treatment or not refuse treatment on paper and then suddenly refuse treating the patient

theiran

2y↑7

@Samy All of the nurses were refusing to do any kind of care for this patient. That is something that can't be tolerated.
I would have notified hospital administration of the issue and let their legal team iron it out.

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Imagine

2y↑85

Kudos to all the nurses!

CHUD Master Patriot

46w

Sadly you don’t get it and I’m a nurse.

JackInTheBox9

43w

Yea deliberately hurting a patient

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Chungly Bungboi

1y↑48

Great episode. But did Hanks parents not tell the other parents what happened?! I can't imagine he would have many students if they told everybody idk.

1nfinitune

1y↑9

Maybe they did but they weren't believed.

Or Hank told them but they didn't believe him.

Or....Hank never told them for fear of what would happen

Merlin's House of free readings

44w↑5

Back in a time when you didn’t speak about abuse. You didn’t want others to know.

Michael Price

2y↑82

Let me get this straight, you were denying care to a patient with a heart problem, then you get upset he thinks you killed him? That was what you were obviously doing by default before, why be surprised he suspects you of it doing it actively?

Cleo Sila

2y↑11

I think her issue with his accusations had more to do with their trust. She said she wouldn’t make his stay a vacation and would do the bare minimum (which is actually a lot in medicine if you want to keep your job). She doesn’t have to fluff his pillows, bring him food, chat with him etc, keep in mind it wasn’t her who mistreated him in the beginning she was just trying to avoid his case and try to be assigned elsewhere. That’s not a big enough reason to conclude someone would kill them, I feel like her distancing herself was the best thing for the patient, you want both parties to feel comfortable/mutual or things will go awry. She had every right to be upset with his accusations.

Michael Price

2y↑2

@Cleo Sila Except she wasn't doing the bare minimum so why should he trust her? She knew about the mistreatment and did nothing. It is absolutely a big enough reason to believe she would kill him. She was ignoring medical orders which could easily have killed him. It was absolutely not the best thing for the patient.

Cleo Sila

2y↑8

@Michael Price Actually no, she was, she brought him water, answered his help call when he rung the button, and assisted in trying to resuscitate him. She said she would do the bare minimum but still went on to help him, had she not been in the room helping him he would’ve never suspected her of tampering with his dosages. The other nurse maybe because she was stabbing him all crazy and doing it on purpose but she just made a statement but never explicitly acted on them.

Michael Price

2y↑4

@Cleo Sila Yeah she brought him water and answered his call AFTER the doc hauled her over the coals. And he was not getting the bare minimum from her or anyone else, his blood had not been taken and they were deliberately delaying that. He had to threaten a nurse even to get basic lab work done. If nobody had responded to a call button the whole unit could have been in trouble if he had, say, died. So at best she's giving him the minimum care she has to to avoid being fired, NOT the minimum required by medical ethics or law.

She already lied that she was going to give the minimum necessary when we see that he didn't get that unless the doc intervened. Why trust her?

Ladenna Young

26w↑2

They should have told him why they were responding like that. It is not up to us to condemn people. It isn't about what they did or didn't do. You still have to do what you are supposed to do in that position. You are obligated to do so. You must follow protocol period, point, blank.

Lashaye Cotton

2y↑98

I love watching this show, love the cast great job!!❤❤

Voice Acticon

2y↑2

I can’t continue watching the show because of Dr. Manning

Mrs. Stephanie Turpen

2y↑47

I thought the doctor didnt care about the nurse but when he talked to the monster patient you could tell he was disgusted

Brie 🇺🇦

29w↑1

I saw my abuser in a store once. I was with my mom, we were in the produce section. Right next to me we’re pineapples and an end display with pairing knives. Everything felt so bizarre and my vision felt like I was about to black out. All I could see was him ans those pairing knives. He smiled and gave us a little wave, my mom not knowing anything was wrong (he was a friend of my moms ex partner). My reaction to him clearly set up alarm bells when I had a full on panic attack mid store. I just.. kept feeling like I was going to faint, my heartbeat soooo loud in my head it sounded like it was coming from all around me not just in my head, and I thought “I won’t be able to open that plastic around the pairing knife fast enough”. It was.. soul destroying seeing him so suddenly after so long.

Cesar Lomeli

34w↑2

Okay let's take it back a few steps, how did we go from abuser to trusting your coworkers?

Disney Princess in training

2y↑124

Sorry, but the nurses are being completely unethical. I’m a student nurse and they’ve talked about this. The best thing to do is for the nurse that was hurt to recuse themselves and the other nurses to treat the patient same as any other. It’s hard but I’ve had to do it.

Jannett

2y↑6

You had to bit ever nurse is different. And some wouldn't be able to.. and the people need understand this period

Andrew Li

2y↑25

@Jannett If the nurse is unable to, then they shouldn't be a nurse.

Baltimore Ravens 4eva

2y↑23

Eh, as long as they got away with it it's all good. It's not like he mattered

Andrew Li

2y↑11

@Baltimore Ravens 4eva What if a nurse decides to kill someone because they're homeless or because they follow a different religion or because they're a gang member? They could say they didn't matter.

HeartRose

2y↑1

@Andrew Li good

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Capitalism enforcer

2y↑11

It's not in the hospital's hands to determine someone's fate, even if they're horrible. The nerve on these nurses would've goten them fired on any reputable hospital

Zac Corpseman

31w↑7

This show has that sweet 2000s - early 2010s aura, lighting and background soundtracks did the trick. Will definitely watch as I miss those years

CC Ink

2y↑24

This is TV I totally get it but it's scary the ppl who say this is justified irl... You are nurse/Dr you are not a judge you don't know full stories & not you're job to do any of that. You treat patients equally it's the oath you take & should be taken seriously

La Brujita

2y↑5

Exactly. Putting aside the ethics involved, if he'd lived, they'd have put the whole hospital at risk for legal ramifications. Incredibly unprofessional.

They should have informed the doctor and if they couldn't reasonably provide care to the patient, they should have informed the doctor of that as well and allowed him to find someone who could.

M Rowley

27w↑2

Doctors and nurses helped both sides during WW2, as bad as it is they have took an oath to help them medically. You dont have to like them but you still have to help them

Александр Костин

2y↑393

0:12 226 over 117?! As a guy who is dealing with Vegetative-vascular dystonia and hypertension I've gotten after Covid-19, that's one of my worst nightmares. Even 150 over 95 gets me all nauseous, but what he has... Damn.

Dae

2y↑3

mines usually anywere from 120/80 to 150/120, its a bad diastolic but not terrible, that systolic though... over 180 is bad bad

M_ D

2y↑4

My ex used to get high BPs like that. You couldn't even tell until he developed a migraine from it. He was 200/150 and insisted on driving home. It's crazy.

Александр Костин

2y↑2

My normal is 125/80 to 130/80 at morning and 130/85 to 140/85 in the evening. I check my BP every day twice and has done so since beginning of March, ever since I was discharged from hospital. Normally, my BP doesn't give me problems, but since Covid and after it, I've also developed a case of meteopathy. In short, if a weather decides to play whack, my organism plays whack, and yesterday it nearly made me throw up...

stringbeanii

2y↑1

if it was that rate the pt would not be relaxed ,sat in a trolley, they'd be in extreme distress, clawing at their clothing and clutching their sides , possibly a lowered gcs and sweating, perhaps some dystopia.

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melopsicodelia

1y↑14

"Or don't bother clocking back in" Only in shows like this a doctor has power to "fired" a nurse or say something like this and don't get un trouble.

Lauren

2y↑33

I had a pheochromocytoma a few years ago. They're almost impossible to see and it sends constant adrenaline into your blood. I was always in fight or fought mode. My reading heart rate was between 90 and 100 for YEARS , along with other things

Urielle

2y↑14

I know the pain of never being able to forgive or forget what someone did to you at a tender age but it's never right to take anyone's life or harm someone, no one has that right.

probably not captain america

1y↑2

This prey mentality will only lead to you getting hurt again

Rosie Rennie

2y↑364

If a Nurse let my abuser die, I'd be on their side and I'd make sure they didnt get fired. Hippocratic oath be damned

William Beck

2y↑23

Cool cool cool so she gets to be Judge Jury and Executioner.

Noah

2y↑15

I partially disagree. If someone is so willing to throw out the ethics and ideals behind the Hippocratic Oath, especially due to personal bias (be it deserved or not), then they never really wanted to be a doctor in the first place, and they need to either leave or be removed from the occupation. Also, no offense, but you would stand no chance of actually keeping this nurse on the hospital’s employ. Now, that being said, if this happened, you and I would both be supporting this nurse, not for making the right ethical choice, but the right moral one…

CY

2y↑8

This is why you're not a physician lmao

Sabir

@CY this is exactly why I'm not a physician lol

Leila.

1y↑7

As much as it’s deserved, one person isn’t worth ur license being terminated. The medical field isn’t your ideal choice if you won’t put ur patients first over your feelings. While ur safety is also important, if someone dies because of you, that’s your fault and you don’t deserve to stay with ur license and job. That’s why careers like this are extremely stressful for the people that can’t handle extreme cases like molestation. It’s fine to feel angry. But if you’re gonna let anger make u kill a patient that was assigned to you, you’re a hazard in that work place

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TheAtonne

2y↑56

This is quite a loaded issue. Personally I'd be saying beat the holy living p**s out of him. I'd even give you a hand. Ethically though they're healthcare professionals. No matter how bad he is (and trust me when I say I take absolutely no pleasure in saying this) he needs care. And if there's a conflict of interest on him send him to another health facility. Hank deserves his justice. But not through others' revenge.

bernain molina

1y↑3

Believe it or I met my abusers and bullies years after I graduated high school some got severely hurt by my hands and some karma got to them first and HARD I never had a panic attack but I know the gut wrenching feeling of seeing the person or people that hurt you in your youth.

billie jo emerick

29w↑4

We need more nurses like this🎉💜

(Breaking News)

2y↑3

Just know that in most or some cases that people like this or murders or terrorists, will likely go to prison once they are reported to the authority's. So after they are done being treated, justice will be served. I seriously doubt that a pianist instructor for over 30 years can get away with diddling kids, somewhere down the line they'll get their reported or investigated. Plus knowing this guy, he likely had a stache of CP on his laptop or computer, which is enough to put away a man for 15-30 years.

Claud

29w↑1

Ethan was the absolute GOAT in this episode. April the absolute worst.

Seriously, you don't tell Ethan what's going on, you refuse to tell Ethan your plans, you plan with other nurses to hurt and mishandle purposely him, and you blame him for even thinking you murdered that guy, specially when he asked for the sole reason to cover you up if you did? She did so horrible in this episode.

Ka,yn Huros

1y↑8

Quite enticing to see such ruthlessness is those nurses' eyes, almost as if their vengeance is the best solution

Blue BesterEdits

1y↑3

No one will know the pain of a doctor when they lose there patient.

blackstarafro2

2y↑9

It doesn’t matter if it was child predator or a regular person. That type of shady killing practices happen at hospitals constantly. It is literally the good old boys behaviour

Andrew Li

2y↑58

Even if you consider the patient dying at the end of natural causes karma (assuming he wasn't actually murdered), all the doctors and nurses should be fired for malpractice. Doctors cannot choose who to and who not to treat for any reason or you're inviting a doctor to not treat a patient for any reason of their choosing.

GabyOms

2y↑12

How about no

Nikko &max

2y↑5

Why not they can deny care to pregnant women

Sapphire Star

1y↑13

Legally speaking, doctors have the right to refuse to treat a patient if there's an emotional hindrance coming into play. The patient will simply be assigned to another doctor or be transferred to another hospital. It's to prevent any real malpractice by having the doctors work be impeded by any and all dislikes and cause further harm to the patient. Like what we saw from that one nurse who basically stabbed the guy trying to draw blood. She definitely should of been dismissed or terminated for that. But the rest technically didn't do anything wrong by refusing to treat him because that's their right. Dr. Choi should of assigned new doctors and nurses to the guy once the three said 'we don't want to treat this guy because of what he did to our friend'.

redy_foryur_daily_liqidation

1y↑7

what malpractice, they all did their jobs even tho they hated him.

ugotmejumpinlike

1y↑1

What? Do you know what malpractice actually means? Every single one of them did their job despite the disgusting man that he is.

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Nikki Black

2y↑17

It is true that you're supposed to treat every patient but people have been murdered for considerably less.

Matthew Davis

2y↑12

Medical personnel are there to care for the health of people, not to be judge/jury/executioner. That's what the court systems are for. What the patient did in the past, assuming true was horrible but for another system to handle. He apparently got off on some technicality which isn't uncommon. There are people who are guilty as sin but get off free because law enforcement did not have warrants. There are processes and rules to follow.

And yes, when a conflict of interest was discovered, he could have been told to be cared for by someone else or another facility if necessary.

Kaylynn Buente

1y↑2

I am seeing things from the patient's perspective. My heart broke for the man, not the nurse. Patient care is the upmost priority. You cannot neglect the quality of care just because the man did wrong. Yes, I understand the situation, but patient care comes first.

HLOG

35w

Yes, otherwise you’d get sued

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Kalypso Brooks

2y↑173

Why didn’t they say anything when the doctor first asked??? It could have saved a lot of trouble

paradise loves

2y↑34

For the drama. Gets viewers curious about what's going on, and keeps them watching long enough for the reveal.

Kalypso Brooks

2y↑13

@paradise loves fair enough. But, surely, there has to be a way to do that without making nurses behave like secretive, petty school girls (no offense the actors, they did amazing).

Ermac97

2y↑6

@Kalypso Brooks Yep, I agree. They should've minded their own business. If wanting to take revenge against the abuser was an option, let the victim do it. Why should the coworkers suddenly become Batman wannabes and administer their own "justice?" Yes, the guy was a horrible human, being, but the nurses have a job to do. Either give the proper amount of care or quit.

Kalypso Brooks

2y↑1

@Ermac97 … I was thinking more in terms of police report and investigation into how he treats his other students, but that’s also an option - takes longer, and leaves room for more damage, but sure

paradise loves

@Kalypso Brooks Of course, there's a way. The directors just don't want to. And, really, it's not the first time the characters have made immoral/unethical choices with refusal to communicate; viewers still enjoy the show, irrespective of the drama, so why bother changing it?

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Sataandagi96

1y↑3

"It's not our job to judge." But those whose job it is tend to ignore or fail at it. So where does that leave people who were wronged? A faulty justice system should be held accountable as well. Don't blame people for seeking their own justice, when they are failed by the same society that is supposed to protect them.

Saritha Beauchamp

36w

Still not our job to do some one else's for them. It's too easy to justify denying care to someone if you think you're morally in the right. There's entire groups of people unjustly being call child molesters in the media right now, some zealot misdescribing them could bring about this exact scenario. THAT'S why it's not our place to judge. No to protect the monsters, but the innocent who get mistaken for them.

Cheyanne Rockett

2y↑4

Life isn’t always fair but it is the oath to first do no harm. They are doctors and nurses, not the justice system. Yes he did get his Karma through death but it is still not the nurses job to do bare minimum based on feeling even though it is hard. But emotions and work must be kept separate. Also, she has admitted how she would treat him so the accusation is logical like what did she expect.

CeCe Mac

2y↑6

I understand the nurses reactions but what they did is illegal and they could've lost their licenses for it. You take an oath when you become a medical professional and you do not get to decide which patients deserve treatment and which patients don't. They should've encouraged their friend to report the man, inform their superiors about the situation and ask if they could find other nurses to tend to the man. The man is obviously a pos but it is not their place to hand out justice like that. Ask to remove yourself instead of taking it upon yourself to punish a patient and getting yourself fired.

𝐆𝐫𝐮𝐛𝐛𝐲★

42w↑1

I agree with the nurses, in the end these are still human beings and not everyone can push aside how they feel and they will act on instinct

Alexa Mosca

2y↑29

I understand how the nurses feel however, they have an obligation to help patients. They can’t just deny him care. The man needed to be changed and thrown in jail. The nurses let their emotions get in the way of their job.

Ivis Yung

2y↑9

He wasn't convicted. But everyone knows he did it. Child molesting is a sensitive area and no one would just lie about getting abused. He got away on a technically meaning he is still guilty.

Faskers

45w↑3

No matter how ya all feel, that was going against protocol,
Nor do you update your senior on the situation, avoid the topic
And regardless of what the patient has done, a doctor/nurse's duty is to treat the patient, regardless wether they r** or killed someone because we dont get to decide, the court does, otherwise we doctors would be held accountable with the risk of our licences getting revoked and jail time

Replicators

2y↑50

The look on Choi's face at 5:02 is the "if i didn't have a career that i cared about you would be a bloody mess on the ground right now" look.

Albino

1y↑2

It wasn’t wrong of him those nurses gave him 0 reason to think they were innocent.

Serioussmile51

2y↑24

I'd want him to live a long life...Filled with PAIN and suffering... With just enough jail time worthy of such scumbags..

I'm sure rec time would be a sight to see...

(I'm a survivor of such actions and would prefer to see them suffering than dead).

Synergistic Collusion

2y↑5

I'd report the nurses in a heartbeat! They're not executioners and if they'll kill one person to satisfy their own emotions then they'd kill an innocent person based on rumor.

Ian Newton

28w↑2

No one who sexually abuses a child should go unpunished under Law,
but with that is a legal system--including a Court of Justice. We shouldn't aim to live in a world where one accusation leads to conviction.

Brian C

2y↑203

The second it was a conflict of interest he should have been transferred. Doctors and nurses have 0 right to put ANYTHING above patient care, safety and rights. Keeping him there presented a clear and present risk.

Elizabeth Lennon

2y↑6

I’m surprised there wasn’t a push to get Hank to contact other parents to warn them about him, maybe even get police involved. But this is a hospital drama, not police drama.

Stranger In A Strange Land

2y↑7

Doctors and nurses are people too. Why do they not have the right to put morality and ethics above the job they had to swear to uphold ethics and morality on?

maiya

@Stranger In A Strange Land they’re the ones that chose the job either treat the patient you’re given or quit

Saritha Beauchamp

36w

@Stranger In A Strange Land Because they have the right to not be on the team, but not the right to actively interfere in care. Particularly in academic medical centers which typically get medicaid funding, breaking EMTALA as these nurses did can result in massive fines and removal of government funding. I say this as a healthcare provider who is an SA survivor myself.

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Neuron Theory M.D.

2y↑504

Dr Choi is a hypocrite. He picks and chooses what he gets worked up about. If it's something that's close to his heart, he will mistreat and bully patients. If he doesn't care, he just doesn't care. Completely lacking in any moral compass whatsoever... definitely my least favourite character :)

Wolverine

2y↑87

At least he didn't violate a patient's rights by completely disregarding the DNR said patient had in place

Yim wai Li

2y↑6

Dr choi good for a different

Liz Anna

2y↑67

He has his moral compass but has no respect for anyone elses.

Donna Hayward

2y↑44

tbh none of the characters on this show, especially the doctors, are very likeable

Magnar Creed

2y↑32

Lmao he has a moral compass. It’s just not YOUR moral compass.

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BioShocking

2y↑183

Those ladies went to bat for him. I would have done the same damn thing no shame.

craig clermond

2y↑8

It's will the medical industry is going to sh*t. I assume you'd also tell a person who didn't get a vacc they deserve to die also. Now I know people aren't perfect, but when you dont have medical standards, you open the doctor to human rights abuses which makes you not much better than the person you condemn. I agree to have your friends back, but they should have removed the traumatized nurse from the floor, not decided to play god with the patient's life.

probably not captain america

1y↑2

@craig clermond patients who choose to reject treatment also choose the consequences. Yes, if you get sick after purposefully refusing the only current treatment, you put the consequences of disease and even death on yourself. It’s no one’s fault but yours.

Dranix Rush

@probably not captain america How's that relevant or to say, to the point?

redy_foryur_daily_liqidation

1y↑2

@craig clermond are you comparing an anti-vaxxer to a pdf file

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shannara fryer

2y↑230

This is why I can’t work in the medical field, I would’ve done everything in my power to make sure he doesn’t leave that building in one piece

The Isopod

1y↑2

Same. I don’t think we are bad people. We aren’t weak enough to have mercy on monsters.

CallMeNevermore

1y↑5

The nurses need to treat every patient in a fair and consistent manner. If that guy lived and got discharged from the hospital then put a lifetime ban on him from accessing that network of hospitals.

B

2y↑19

Wow...what happened in this case is wrong on multiple levels. Any medical professional should not allow their feelings to influence the care they give to a patient. If you feel it will, remove or ask to be removed from the case. I can understand despising this guy but maltreatment is not the answer.