Predator
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Carnivore They live beneath the ruined city call the subways home Anxi…
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Grief If there's life after death I'll return a powerful creature…
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Informatik The skill of the hunter The will to survive The thrill of…
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John St. John Ooh First I am spotted across the room Sussed out for the…
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Kay Jam Oh the hiding the mind games Let's play and see…
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Komor Kommando I will hunt you I will bring you down I'm the predator Of…
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Machinations It's high High time It's high Allright It's high time you gi…
Marjinal Perbedaan tak lagi dipikirkan Kesetaraan dilihat sebelah ma…
Meat Puppets This rendered me silent Tuneless, only petrified Roads leadi…
Morning Dwell Jaws of steel and eyes of a killer makes him…
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New Day Rising The taste of blood wets your mouth. With a…
Nicotine On the freeway I try to get it all Nobody can be In…
Orca Driven, driven by blood The beast unleashed has caught a sce…
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R.C. Nucleus Welcome to the present ‘cause there will not be a…
Ra Too young to know What the real world shows Forget those wor…
RATPAJAMA walking round the streets at night the dead of night feels l…
Saxon Clandestine hunter, top of the food chain Everything fears y…
Sllash You heard of this … Big cat that’s supposed to be…
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Symbiontic Cold green eyes watch you from dark corners A shadow flies…
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We Burn Bridges Wake up to the nightmare Will you be the prey…
Worth The Fight Hope is never lost until you've given it up yourself…
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Most interesting comments from YouTube:

@gearcheck101

2y↑17

The dimples are for you to tune the brake to reduce muzzle climb to your preference. Many brakes have these features. You literally drill them out in the quantity and diameter required to get the desired effect. You can also do it asymmetrically to account for handedness.

Mass is important, since adding mass to the gun will inherently reduce how much the firearm as a system moves under the same amount of recoil force. The bare gun, and the gun with two muzzle devices had different masses.

The solution to this for your test rig, would be to add ballast to the gun so that every set up weighs the same.

Also add some high contrast markings to the arm to make it easier and more consistent to track.

Outside of a sled set up, load cell, or hall effect sensor... I think you could get reasonable results for like for like comparisons this way.

@samevans1535

2y↑4

There are four muzzle devices/functions, compensator, suppressor, muzzle brake and flash hider. Some of these functions can be combined into one mechanical device but some perform opposite functions.
A pure flash hider resembles a muzzle brake but the vents are usually aimed at 90degrees laterally from the barrel. A flash hider might reduce the felt recoil by a slight amount. Think Patton tank.
A pure compensator is more often seen on pistols. It can be a short barrel extension, sometimes weighted, with slots (Cutts comp) or holes at or near the top or holes milled into the top of the barrel. Its sole purpose is to mitigate barrel flip when firing. It can be made to lower tolerances than suppressors. This device function in the exact opposite way of a flash hider.
A pure muzzle brake has vents which are aimed laterally and back. It can also be made to lower tolerances. Look at a Barrett 82A1 for the ultimate design. A friend fired an 82A1 and he said the jet exhaust pulled the gun away from his shoulder.
The Energetic Vox tested was a pure suppressor. It is called a "can" because like a can it does not have holes in the sides. All gasses escape out the front of the "can". For a "can" to function properly and last for a while, it must be made and mounted precisely.
The Apollo Max is a combination of a muzzle brake and a compensator and a bit of a flash hider. You can see the lateral vents angled back and the two holes at the end angled up. For a combination device like this there is a limited amount of gas jet. The designer would have to decide how much braking thrust and how much compensator thrust to allow. If it didn't have the compensator holes at the muzzle, the braking effect would be greater.
Perhaps a suppressor could be designed that was quiet and had a bit of a compensator effect.

P.S. You don't want to stand next to someone with a large muzzle brake on their gun of you will be eating a lot of burned gunpowder.

@kevindavidson1133

I gathered a lot from this video.
You are a lot like me. My mom says the first word out of my mouth was "why"?
Most video I watch are produced by folks who like to hear themselves talk.
Your delivery was excellent. Short straight and to the point.
Loved the creativity in design and build of your testing device.
I'd like to see a test for pure linear energy and barrel rise. Would be a more accurate test for what one sees and feels when shooting. If anybody can do it, I'd say you're the man.
Just a note,it looks like your trigger actuator is actually "pneumatic".
I couldn't tell if there was fluid in the system or just air but judging from the action/reaction times I am guessing air.
Yeah I am nit picky but that's part of the reason I so enjoyed the video.
I subscribed to your channel and look forward to viewing some of your videos.

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@SaveTheBiosphere

2y↑547

Lot's of us want to see sound measurement comparison.

@VSO_Gun_Channel

2y↑129

Then lots of you can donate to the Patreon account and I’ll buy the $20K meter.

@brandenfwee

2y↑103

@The VSO Gun Channel I take it a $20 decibel meter from Amazon wouldn’t cut it?

@shawnveneziano9013

2y↑61

@The VSO Gun Channel Db Meters cost $20 to $180. If we donate $20 will you measure the dB difference? I mean, you can even just use an app on your phone, lol.

@VSO_Gun_Channel

2y↑32

@Shawn Veneziano thanks for the meme material

@ellenbishop5102

2y↑23

@Shawn Veneziano have you ever taken video at a concert and play ot back over an actual speaker? It sounds like dog shit because phone mics can't handle the db levels so im imagine they would be just as inaccurate with guns

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@rjg02005

2y↑1.1K

Of all the YouTube metrics, we should know how much of the audience is watching this from the bathroom.

@MA-lq6eb

2y↑42

I was😂👋

@ishnifusmeadle

2y↑40

Delaying the wipe as one of our favorites says....

@aringendmatt

2y↑38

I feel judged.....

@ishnifusmeadle

2y↑21

@matthew cameron nah ur good. People only judge you when your playing candy crush so long you get semi permanent ring on ur ass from the seat and when you stand up you can't walk for 5 mins cus your legs fell asleep......or so I'm told....

@hopatrol9475

2y↑9

I can confirm this

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@circularfile68

2y↑15

Thank God there’s finally a product that can mitigate the crushing recoil from 5.56.

@GasChamberTexasMetal

2y↑225

The dimples are for your ability to fine tune the comp to the gun which is why they are located at 1,5,7, and 11 o'clock. If your muzzle rises up and left for instance, start by drilling the forward most 11 o'clock dimple and re shoot. If needed drill 2nd dimple and so on. The 5 and 7 o'clock dimples are for you to correct the previously described process if overcompensated.

@TheFlyingZulu

2y↑5

That seems risky to drill holes in it. Why not trying to time the muzzle device off center from the 12 o'clock position as needed? Or would that not help because there are no holes in the 12 o'clock position?

@Will-W

2y↑5

@Patrick Jones if it's too much you can just thread the hole and put a set screw with some high temp lock-tight on it.

@TheFlyingZulu

2y↑4

@___Meph___ Because drilling holes is semi permanent... but as Will-W just pointed out you can plug the hole with a set screw and some lock-tight. lol

@AKFF320

@Patrick Jones 🤣🤣

@kansasgardener5844

1y↑4

Just turn the comp a little. Done!

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@mt11235

2y↑140

Just want to say the idea to use the syringes for a quick hydraulic actuator was bloody brilliant. Much better than the normal long string (which obviously would not work for this experiment). I love it.

@Douglemagne

2y↑2

It's still not measuring directional recoil only net backward pressure, which is basically not a useful measurement for time to recenter for improved rapid fire accuracy which is the reason why anyone would ever use a compensator.

@mikesweeting2620

1y↑1

Mythbusters used to use syringes for this until they went electronic.

@jawnlaughlin5

1y↑1

Yeah that way he can apply more force on the suppressed and non-suppressed so apollo9 max(sponsor) comes out on top and also stop the video when he wants for the recoil test

@wwbrock6727

1y↑55

I bought this compensator after watching the video a few months ago. After installing it on my AR, I made a trip to our local range. The RSO was amazed at the complete lack of muzzle jump or recoil movement when I shot, which allowed three shots in three seconds in a .7" group at 100 yards. One thing to note, however, the noise coming back to your ears is very loud compared to not having the compensator on the rifle. So much so that I suffered a damaged left ear drum when my hearing protector slipped back as I fired my last shot.

@Tron2pointOh

1y↑26

Thank you for saving my hearing. Not for me.

@benher6934

1y↑3

Thanks for the data.

@Henrythef1rst

Time to play the game, whose more full of crap??

@uwont4gitme

1y↑5

Well sir maybe you have sensitive ears.. on 16" ar15 I didn't notice the sound difference between this and standard A2. However, there was significant recoil reduction with this muzzle brake than using the A2.

@adloutdoors

1y↑2

So how is this muzzle brake better than a suppressor?

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@lucasblanchard47

2y↑85

I thought your hydraulic trigger mechanism was absolutely genius. I’ve always thought linear comps were a bit odd. This brake seems to work very well! Great content as always, much love from Texas!

@rubbafunk

2y↑4

Bloody brilliant idea, with the pneumatic syringe jerry-rig! You're a smart bloke.

@stephenjerome7793

2y↑1.3K

Dampening sound is not an additional benefit of a suppressor, its the main design function. Reducing recoil is an additional benefit, not a prime function.

@VSO_Gun_Channel

2y↑54

I don’t think anyone is arguing that.

@Nobody-11B

2y↑155

@The VSO Gun Channel 0:30 you said it backwards, lmao.
you said the primary function of a suppressor is recoil reduction. i had to rewind I was so confused for a second.

@VSO_Gun_Channel

2y↑136

@Nobody no, words have meaning. I said “one of the prime functions of a suppressor is to reduce recoil”. Not “the primary function”. That language denotes that it is ranked, not that it is the top. Again words have meaning

@Misfitk85

2y↑105

I think everyone forgot the primary reason for suppressors, it’s actually for muzzle flash elimination and some sound reduction. So the enemy has a harder time to locate where the shot came from. You can get the added bonus of recoil but primary objective is muzzle flash elimination and reduced sound

@alastor8091

2y↑9

@josh kulle I thought it was to disguise the sound by making it differ from gunfire. I've never heard a suppressor used live, but I've always heard it makes it so people don't even know they're being shot at.

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@flonga1

2y↑188

Suppressors are for less concussive blast, sound reduction/confusion, and hiding muzzle flash. Comparing a brake or comp to a suppressor in regards to recoil isn’t really viable

@m118lr

2y↑27

..to me it’s just LAUGHABLE that the guy would even go “THERE”.

@austinbowman5908

2y↑20

Yea, I agree. Not a great comparison. Apples to oranges...

@brentrasmussen2440

2y↑8

Hey, my apples taste more like apples than these oranges do…I think I’ll do a YouTube video!

@2aisabsoluteTim

2y↑2

Agreed
He needs to have both to make an actual comparison

@kevinguthmiller8510

2y↑1

Exactly.

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@gearcheck101

2y↑17

@loganhicks9244

2y↑44

4:16, the dimples are made to be drilled out if you need additional recoil control. If it’s still hopping after putting it up, you can drill out two holes, and keep going until recoil is under control

@AJ-nh8ik

2y↑6

Good to know.

@catbird1759

27w↑2

After spending 20 years in the military, I have quite a bit of hearing loss. Even though wearing ear plugs, I believe that the way the composite helmet is designed, it traps noises and seems to magnify the noise. It seemed to take several hours after using live fire that my ears would stop ringing. Great testing and engineering setup!

@DinoNucci

2y↑43

It's click bait, but also true at the same time.
He'll say: "better than a suppressor at mitigating recoil".
Doesn't make the title any better though.

@robertp881

I know! The ultimate chode

@bickyboo7789

1y↑1

Yeah that's annoying

@joquin4618

2y↑13

Really informative content. I still prefer suppressors over compensators…. Actually, I hate compensators…. Much rather go with a flash hider, or better yet: a suppressor.
Everyone have a great day!

@Locke99GS

2y↑43

Compensators are supposed to compensate for muzzle rise, not necessarily recoil. I'm not sure why you would think otherwise. It should surprise nobody that there may still be considerable recoil on a solely compensated firearm.
Muzzle brakes are intended to reduce felt recoil.
These two concepts are not the same thing. Many people confuse what these devices are intended to do. That does not mean compensators don't compensate, or that muzzle brakes don't muzzle brake. It may mean that compensators don't necessarily muzzle brake, and muzzle brakes don't necessarily compensate. People being dumb doesn't mean the devices don't actually do what they're intended to do.

Some compensators compensate for rise and additionally have the features of a muzzle brake incorporated to reduce felt recoil. What you hold in your hand is a compensator with the features of a muzzle brake - one might get away with calling it a compensated muzzle brake.

@totenfurwotan4478

2y↑13

Well he also thinks people buy suppressors to reduce recoil so obviously there isnt much thinking going on

@mrpink3338

2y↑7

@TotenfurWotan Yeah, I agree with this. I'm not sure how some of these people get the following they do. Maybe they look the part or something but this guy has all sorts of stuff confused yet still has a following that will watch his videos.

@totenfurwotan4478

2y↑5

@Anthony B. modern day spreading of fudd lore

@robertbiermann4666

2y↑4

Competitive shooters understand what comps are for...making the gun shoot flat with no rise or fall during rapid fire. This guy appears confused. If you want less recoil, change the springs or weights in the buffer tube to match your loads. You hit the nail on its head.

@mr.tall-man1573

@TotenfurWotan Yep here ya go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CXc4Dxok4c

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@toytowninc680

2y↑8

No criticism or suggestions to offer…just awesome job man. I want a reason to like ultradyne and separate myself from $400 for their sight/comp combo and you and Christian Grest are really helping my confirmation bias

@jodyweigle7694

2y↑6

I use the Ultradyne Apollo LR on my PRS rifle and it reduces recoil around the 63% range on a sled. I tested several suppressors and they reduced it around 21%, the same as he saw. I love shooting suppressed but in matches where you need to see your impacts and or misses, the Ultradyne works way better than a suppressor! I also don't like testing on a swing, because when you have vents pointing up, that downward force will cause your rifle to swing back. But on a sled which to me and I am not nearly as smart as this guy, but to me it mimics real life shooting more. When you shoot and the blast goes up, it is not pushing the rifle backwards it is pushing the front down. So swings are deceiving when it comes to devices that have upward facing vents. Also the longer the barrel the more affect the upward vents will have...at least that make sense to me! Now the dimples are for extra down force. If you need more rise control, drill a few of them out. But great video, I love your stuff!! Also your hydraulic trigger....fricking genius!!!

@johnp9402

2y↑43

Props for building a test rig. I haven't seen anyone do a test like this. You could do a whole series like this

@samielamri6044

2y↑3

One thing about gun video channels I love. Is when they admit it's not scientific , but look at this! I made a thing! It kinda works. I saw my failure, and tried to fix it!

@MA-lq6eb

2y↑9

💥🔫The title of the vid is misleading. It says "Muzzle Brake" but u keep describing a "Compensator"...there is a difference. Muzzle brakes mostly reduce recoil, while Compensators mostly reduce muzzle movement. I still gave u a thumbs up 4 Support👍🇺🇸

@the.original.throwback

2y↑5

I had a bolt action BSA .458 Win mag that weighed 7.5 pounds with an amazing muzzle brake that reduced recoil substantially. It made me an advocate of not only muzzle brakes but also double hearing protection. It wasn't the BANG, it was the SCREECH when shooting the 458 that popped your ears. It was also quite unpleasant for anyone standing to the side. Awesome gun! Jess

@charleswittmer

who wants to carry hearing protection when hunting? maybe in a shooting house. I could maybe see using a compensator at the bench by yourself but only then. all it takes is one time to forget the protection and you will have hearing damage if you are a older shooter.

@bruceinoz8002

1y↑1

@Charles Wittmer Who wants to be able to hear with reasonable clarity?

I have been using ear-pro forever and at nearly seventy years of age, I can still appreciate some of the subtleties of music. There is NATURAL hearing degradation and there is that cause by excessive exposure to modern, electro-mechanical life;

Hearing degradation from your own muzzle blast exposure is akin to a self-inflicted wound. How many combat troops are "failed on teh hearing tests on "medical boards. It happens a LOT. Modern, ACTIVE ear-muffs are a wonderful thing, as long as you can keep the batteries replaced / recharged

@kimmer6

21w↑1

20+ years ago we talked a gun hating high school English teacher into going to a ranch in the NorCal mountains to try various rifles. One guy brought a 44 pound 50BMG target rifle with a muzzle brake the size of a Coke can. She loved that 50 cal so much that she must have burned up 25 rounds. The muzzle brake really tamed the recoil...but the noise was awful. That's a rifle you don't shoot when hung over. The big laugh was that she later shot an old WWII Russian Mosin Nagant and quit after firing 2 rounds because the recoil was so savage. That was a very memorable day and she came away with a whole new attitude about firearms.

@3CODKing

18w

thats why there is also electronic ear pro. you get both benefits of hearing protection and being able to hear others even on hunts. @@charleswittmer

@LogaOrga

2y↑3

That thing is ridiculous! Installed it on an R700 in .308 and it seriously turned it into a .223 in terms of recoil and muzzle rise. I easily put 50 rounds down range with 0 soreness. I didn't want to stop shooting it. Out of a 20 inch barrel you are going to get blast anyway so might as well use it to your advantage. Highly recommend if you want fast follow up shots.

@nicholassorensen9035

2y↑1

Haven’t even finished the video, but felt heavily compelled to commend you on your ingenuity. Hats off, sir, with that recoil apparatus.

@kathrynck

2y↑9

Brakes tend to have about double the performance for recoil compared to cans. (though brands vary a lot)
Oft overlooked is flash suppression. Which is great on a can after shot 1 (uses up the O2 inside the can), but pretty noticeable on shot 1 (usually).
So really there's 3 different things you can do at the muzzle. And there's significant compromises if you try to do more than one of those things.
Personally I think cans & flash sups are the more valuable options in practice. Cans are probably the best overall, but at night, a near 100% flash sup is pretty amazing.

@juliejones8785

2y↑8

In order to accurately compare the force equations you need to use the total weight with each muzzle device, not just the weight of the device. In addition where the weight is added matters. Add ten pounds at the bottom of the grip and you will see quite a change.

@steelshrapnel9900

2y↑9

I’m old school long time competitive shooter since mid-80s, NFA RO, and NFA match director since mid-90s and totally disagree with your assessment between compensators and suppressors! Owned many different compensators I’ve designed since mid-80s, NFA machine guns since 1990 and suppressors starting 1994 receiving my last suppressor few months ago!

Ahhh, absolutely no comparison between comps and cans..! None, zero..! However do agree never use crush washers on anything beyond A1 birdcage flash hiders..! All comps needs be timed indexed correctly for accuracy and uniformed gas expansion..!

But no way in hell one can compare comps to cans..!

Nonetheless agree to disagree on particular subject matter really enjoy your informative videos!!!

@samevans1535

2y↑4

@tricksterjoy9740

Had a leather jacket that was left too close to a .50 when it fired, the force and powder tore holes in it. Sadly, my poor choice of placement of said coat, cost me the coat. It was unsalvageable.

And man I was glad i wasn’t wearing it and standing there.

@TictacAddict1

20w

As an engineer, I am highly impressed with your test methods and even more impressed with your math.

@74447krispy

50w↑2

I have to say this is definitely one of the best if not the best brakes on the market. I have one on the end of a 7mm rem mag and due to whatever kind of sorcery they used it has a lighter recoil implulse than a 6.5 creedmoor. The down side of course is that nobody wants to go shooting with you since they go deaf anywhere except directly behind the gun.

@Delcorbett

2y↑1

100 points awarded for the use of cattywampus!

Such a good word.

@blackhawk7r221

2y↑2

Over my decades of shooting, I have come to use this backcut style of compensator on all of my threaded rifles. There is definitely a noticeable reduction in recoil. That’s why a Barrett .50 uses a backcut style. Comparison charts can be found online where recoil reduction was measured using different styles of compensators. Don’t know about it being quieter.

@h3brew

2y↑25

I have an Apollo Max on my AR10. Its pretty fantastic. Recoil is minimal, blast to others is oppressive. 😁

@jacobwhittaker6241

2y↑4

I was about to ask if it was crazy loud, I guess it is..... lol

@h3brew

2y↑6

@Jacob Whittaker Its less so for the shooter. Id advise against shooting next to someone that has one, at least with a 308

@JohnSmith-bf1sq

2y↑2

@Jacob Whittaker it is absolutely unbearable if you are next to one if it is on an SBR or 16" 308. For the shooter it isnt as bad. But if you want a gamer gun it is a go to!!! I shoot a 12.5 mid with a Lmos and this comp and it is possible to double tap silhouettes at 100yrds.

@george5156

@CaptN PhiL my 50bmg with a muzzle brake would blow the carpet off the next shooting bench

@ikillyoumjp

2y↑1

My 8 year old shoots my 308 comfortably with the Apollo max it is amazing just don’t forget the ears.

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@paulhardenbrook4218

2y↑12

I put a comp on my 5.56ar and it was awesome. There was hardly any recoil. Granted I had an older model ar and it was heavy so I'm sure that helped as well. But you have to use ear protection when shooting it if not, the sound coming from the side ports will blow your ear drums.

@kevindavidson1133

@mwedmonds

2y↑3

Dude, this is why I love your channel! That hydraulic trigger test mechanism…yes! I wanna see more comp videos with that!!

@GrendalTheBeasty

2y↑6

I have one of these, originally mounted it on a CZ-572 (7.62x39). It kicks somewhere between a bolt action 22 and an A2 pattern AR-15. It's completely comical. The muzzle blast is equally silly. The first time I fired it, it cleared all my targets off the bench and ripped a few of them. The muzzle was several feet above the bench. I've removed it and it's sitting on my desk now. Recoil reduction is incredible, but it is simply too obnoxious.

@Skullbee50cal

2y↑2

as a firearms student, Linear compensators are meant to make a certain concussive blast allows for greater accuracy as the projectile is protected from the air on its initial flight by the muzzle blast. Take the AN91 For instance, because if it’s double hyper sonic shot feature, it needs a compensator that keeps the concussion blast in the air long enough for the second round. Concussive blasts run on a vacuum frequency that’s like water after a muzzle blast is there, the air rushes in to fill the vaccuum from the blast , and fucks up the next one

@Skullbee50cal

The expansive gasses are faster than the bullet which is where a linear compensator works by moving the gasses around the bullet and creating a travel pathway free of a percentage of the winds drift due to the blast shape.

@Skullbee50cal

Remember how shape charges work, then apply that premise of direction of expanding gasses to a linear compensator to find a stable pathway for the bullet.

@MrRebar15

2y↑3

The VSO Gun Channel Bravo well done, thank-you sir for taking the time to show us. God Bless.

@BigHarryBalzac

2y↑1

The blind holes, or dimples on any brand of comp that has them, is in case you need to further reduce muzzle rise you can drill out however many holes it takes to get the desired effect. I've never had anything like that myself. I'm still rockin' the old school, and old, Fabian Bros. Muzzle Stabilizer, AKA the DTA Mil-Brake. And an A2 flash hider/compensator.

@westwing23

2y↑4

I used to have this on my M1A(.308) and I loved the shooting experience but good god it was heavy and long with the adaptor compared to my Percision Armament EFAB. The weight with the adaptor was so profound that I notice a drastic different in the timing and control going from low ready to fire.

@b.a.lineman7582

2y↑2

I have this comp on my LR.308 and IT WORKS. All the reviews stated that it’s too much. I disagree. It is freaking loud. I will definitely pay attention to what’s left of the recoil and possibly start drilling dimples to suit if needed. Appreciate the knowledge from the fellas that know WAY more than me. First long range rifle, first scope, first bipod …. Second drop in trigger. This shits getting in my blood…. Bout to spend some real money …

@JJGuccione

2y↑1

Been an Ultradyne guy for a few years. I have one on my .300 Win Mag as well as a few 5.56.

@dandexinventor

I'll have to try that one. I have a JP Eliminator in .223 Wylde and an Area 419 Match for my 6mm ARC which both work amazingly. Thanks for giving me a third option to try.

@darkbulb367

Great job at testing & publishing hard numbers. Ditto at keeping it real & speaking American! I got to learn a few new things like WHY I like a backup nut instead of crush washers. I'm only 6 years old in building & 3 years rusty since I got booted off the ranch where I used to shoot. Just tryin' to keep my pilot light lit these days. Good info is much appreciated.

@charleswittmer

thats why there is a shoulder on a threadded barrel, to butt the suppressor up against to take the slop out of the threads when a suppressor is screwed on.

@tomthoelke8343

2y↑3

It looks similar to the muzzle brake from Witt Machine that I use on my 300 winmag bolt action. Just purchased another for my 7mm Rem Mag. They are amazing and inexpensive.

@DisgustedGenXr

I have all ultradyne. Unbelievable recoil reduction. Lowest kick on the market. I have Apollo S on 16”. Has 5 side vents and 2 upskis. Mercury on 11.5” and Athena on a 8.5” for now. Their sighting system is even more awesome and works with all of their sights

@El69Fuego

So glad this guy finally figured out what a COMPENSATOR is designed for. Almost like he isn’t being sponsored by Apollo for this video

@jakeyfaststudios3083

35w

I guess this is on me, but I didn't think to double up my hearing Pro when taking my .308 to the indoor range with this brake. I only used my range muffs which are usually adequate. It works great at mitigating felt recoil, but I now have permanent tinnitus from shooting about 20 rounds with the brake indoors. I learned my lesson the hard way, but now I always double up the ear protection!

@wheelstandr

Ultimate Reloading did a test of several comps and this one was a 50 percent reduction with a very scientific test. So far looks to be the best out there.

@mrmatt7210

2y↑2

Loved the video, test rig was genius in application and I appreciate the work performed to calculate the percentage of reduction in recoil. The only thing missing was what increase in sound did the shooter receive by using a muzzle break.

@woodgrainstudios7321

which I thought was the whole point of the Video (based on the description)

@ericsfishingadventures4433

2y↑8

I absolutely can not wait to see how you built the testing device! Looks like a cool idea!

@VSO_Gun_Channel

2y↑3

I should have the video put by next week. I think it has a lot to talk about.

@Ni999

2y↑1

It's a ballistic pendulum, they have a long and rich history.

@jarrettvick4571

12w

Used one of those syringes for a trigger puller about 35 years ago on a homemade devise for zeroing scopes.

@xROBIx85

50w

i have one of these and absolutely love it. One thing I will say though is anyone standing to your left or right behind you will get blasted with gas. I let my buddy fire off a mag and i was a couple feet behind him to the side and it was noticeable. Sadly suppressors are not legal where live. This product is great though and I would highly recommend

@markf3229

Congratulations on your set up that you designed.
I have see somthing similar on a sled like apparutus.
I think originally they were designed to hide muzzle flash and dust throw up.
On a 45-70 there is definitely a reduction in kickback

@firedog9113

I got a fake suppressor on my 300 blackout, it does help when shooting, but what I like the most, it helps reflect most of the noise forward and not backwards as bad. I've enjoyed it enough I got one for my 5.56 Nato, and 468 uppers. Can't find a good one for the 6.5 Creedmoor yet, got a company trying to make one now that works

@jeradhoffman3937

The engineer in me strongly appreciates the quantitative analysis. I’ve had my eye on this for my 300 PRC; it’s the only rifle I own I’m not manly enough to shoot repeatedly at the range without a brake. lol

@charleswittmer

I found out 40 years ago when I would go to check out my zero on my rifles, start with the223 rifle first and go to the 308, 270, 7mm um and 338 um last, then shoot my 22 until the flinch went away. I have no use for a compensator on my hunting rifles but for the last 15 years the suppressors are nice for hearing protection. The only thing is you gotta remember the ears always when you pick up a rifle at the bench.

@jimr5703

2y↑22

Mass has a significant effect on the weapon movement. You should be putting an impact measuring device (with a small amount of pre-load) at the rear of the gun to hold the weapon steady. That should mitigate the mass (inertia) of the different devices.

@VSO_Gun_Channel

2y↑13

Or you can account for the mass change in the calculation...

@rugershooter5268

2y↑3

@The VSO Gun Channel why do you want to account for the mass change? If I have a 50kg block that attaches to the trigger guard, and I say it is a recoil reducer, you simply test to see if it reduces recoil.........if I claim a device A reduces recoil more than device B then you simply test the recoil of the 2 devices........now if you want claim the winner is the winner because it has 10g more, then you test that as another test

@cplusmcretired

2y↑3

@Ruger Shooter Because you can accomplish the same thing with math using a lot less time and energy. If you just want to argue it would be a good video, you are likely right... but not if you are arguing that it is something that needs to be tested.

@rugershooter5268

2y↑2

@CplUSMCRetired I don't believe you read the words that I wrote

@warrenpuckett4203

I got real shoulder bruiser. .50 cal black powder, 7.5 lb stainless with a 4 x12 scope. I am about as fond of it with full 150 grain and 30 caliber sabot charge as a having gout attack.
Looks great hanging on the wall.

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@Joeatsaco69

I added an Apollo to my Ruger American in 6.5CM. I believe it is a 5 fin.
While I made the report much louder it dropped the recoil to that of less than a 223.
Many people asked me why I did this. Answer is I wanted to be able to spot my own bullet strikes out past 300 and into 700 yards.

It works great and has greatly increased my confidence in an already great rifle.
If you have been shooting for even a little while you will know that the worst problem you can have with a rifle is your confidence in it. Limited confidence will make you second guess everything.

@transportationdesign9072

2y↑13

I'd like to see someone make a large compensator with a dust cover. It should slide back when firing and slide forward, threading securely in place when not in use, to stop that pesky dust from getting into the sensitive baffles... I mean, gas redirection ports.

@hansoak3664

2y↑1

😁

@BangBang-hk4rg

Sig was way ahead of you.
https://youtu.be/z_21GWC16BU

@johnpeterson7264

Excellent ! Scientific analysis not just subjective assessment. I love it ! Thanks for doing this

@JoeyIngles

Data analytics prof here. Normalizing the data earned you a sub, my friend.

Great vid.

@tylerwarner6650

2y↑10

I've never noticed a can lessening recoil. The sheer mass of a suppressor will reduce muzzle rise and felt recoil because they usually add around 1lb of weight to the firearm. For me I usually see a bump in recoil from the use of a can as the additional backpressure equates to cyclic rate speed increases in most firearms. Just what I've noticed.

@johnjohnston6066

2y↑2

For AKs and Galils you can buy an adjustable gas piston from KNS Precision. About $150.00. It reduces recoil and makes the brass easier to find. I have one and it works.

@charleswittmer

@@johnjohnston6066 you can also buy adams arms piston kits for ar15s but not for ar10 style fat barrels

@mikewallace8087

2y↑6

Full mag, 1/2 mag, 1round mag. Use a force scale on your swing pendulum and don't let the firearm swing.

@lillithara5120

Love all of my Ultradyne Comps. Have the 6.5 Apollo Max on my 6.5 Grendel AR-15 and barely feel anything. Also have one on my 7mm-08 AR-10, 300 win mag and 28 Nosler bolt guns.

@user-qp3eb4pm1zfatcatreloading

17w

I use a Hyscore shooting rest ( Gas Dampened) comes with a hydraulic trigger pull. Anyway. I got it for around $150.00 including shipping from Midway USA. I use it for load development, setting optics, and testing long guns, shot guns and carbines after rebuilds. It’s a very good tool for all kinds of research and development on firearms. I never liked lead sleds. Before I got the Hyscore shooting rest. I just used bi pods and stock elevating rest. Get the Hyscore shooting rest. It is an economical affordable shooting rest that takes you to a more professional level.

@anthonyburke5656

27w

Agree, except in some very specific circumstances, the Brake is better than a Suppressor. The instances I count are eliminating sentries or guard dogs and in very limited circumstances security lights and sensors.

@leadfootlawnmower2762

Did the research a few years ago and ended up with the Apollo max on the end of my deer rifle. Love hate relation. The reduction is awesome the reversal of noise not so much. Definitely would buy another one.

@TheTrueOSSS

19w

From an engineering and physics design standpoint a compensator is the go to for recoil reduction. Consider the following as ideal designs. A supressor smooths the impulse by releasing gasses over a longer interval, and absorbs some energy as heat, but typically still releases it forward. A compensator redirects expanding gasses so that the net force is reduced without smoothing the impulse. From this reasoning, a reduction in recoil from a supressor is secondary to its design and a byproduct of heat transfer and impulse smoothing. Whereas a compensator is designed primarily for recoil reduction by affecting the force vectors. It stands to reason that any compensator designed well for its function will perform better at reducing recoil than any supressor simply due to the compensated net forces.

@mrterry2315

2y↑29

What is the change in sound level (DB) at the shooter's ear by adding this device? Would you measure this for us? I would guess it actually makes the shot louder to the shooter, because it vents the gasses backwards towards the shooter.

@gospyro

2y↑12

I'd love to see this as well. I'm surprised he didn't bring that up since he talked about not likeing comps because the good ones tend to be LOUD.

@dwightemery5694

Nice... have a built in muzzle brake cut into one of my favorite shot guns... simple slots cut into the sides of the barrel and it works really nice... this is interesting... thanks for sharing.

@MrDannyrabbit

I just ordered one. The suggested retailer had only 12 in stock as of 7/10/2022.
Get it while they last!

@MrBoo1963

I have been watching for one of these for a few years now! At last I see one!

@roddymcclain7695

The dimples in the top and bottom are pilot holes for drilling through the brake. The hyper tap has those as well. Whichever side is top up can have the holes drilled through and have additional venting to prevent muzzle climb.The hyper tap has 75% reduced felt recoil according to its producer. My experience is that statement is true.

@blackhawk7r221

2y↑1

We’ve been buying these inexpensive Chinese rear angled Barrett style compensators for years. $15 can get you one. Greatly reduces recoil and the sharpness of the report.

@6point8esspcee68

50w↑4

Interesting. I went through several compensators in my quest for the perfect setup. Most of the time, they just made my rifles uncomfortably loud for the shooter and unbearable for spectators. I finally got old and could afford to start suppressing things. Turns out that my favorite rifle isn't even a rifle. CMMG Banshee MK10, 8in. barrel with a Banish 45 can. About th most fun you can have with your clothes on.

@rodiculous9464

2y↑1

That's a really cool recoil jig, you don't see too many people trying to get objective data like that

@Khercules

49w

I was concerned about the inertia regarding the heavier can... Until you accounted to that. Now this is my type of content!!

@thepocketgeek

The amount of nerdiness that went into this video was worth the follow alone.

@raywhitehead730

27w

Some time ago, a pretty good study was done on mussel brakes and recoil and suppressors: It found, larger ports worked best. Precisionrifleblog, Muzzle brakes and suppresors, what the pros use. February, 2, 2019. Over 175 individual top shooters contributed to the data.

@psaunier10

Curtis, the dimples are there to drill through if the need for more compensation is desired. I have one on a 6.5 creed and it is worth every penny. Great piece of kit.

@tkoz7856

2y↑4

Hydrologic trigger was brilliant. I would consider this comp if it had a real obvious ability to hide muzzle flash. I kinda stick with what's proven. A2 birdcage slightly mitigates recoil and significantly reduces muzzle flash.

@FreedomInc

but how important is it to actually reduce muzzle flash? are you running suppressed? at night? ans where are tou most likely to be shooting and at what?
of night vision isn't a part of the scenario. personally I think the a2 gets more credit than deserved.
hm defense (a severely underrated company) has a great muzzle device. especially when flash motivation is a nessesity

@tkoz7856

2y↑1

@Freedom Inc no suppressor available because of location. Secondly, several of the scenarios that would involve the rifles I would attach this to would be used more often at night when movement is most concealed. Don't get me wrong A2 isn't perfect. In comparison to other videos where brakes and comps are compared at muzzle flash reduction. A2 is usually up there with the best of both worlds. Not saying it is the best, but it works for my needs.

@DDadams0

@T Koz Look into the precision armament EFAB or AFAB. I run the efab and it's the only hybrid device that actually does everything.

It's primary function is flash mitigation. It does as well as an A2 could without being an A2 - literally 99% of an A2 but with a bit of a brake built in. TTAG did a test on flash hiders and muzzle brakes and it was in both for raw # data.

@Royal_LXIX

Nice man, I think my most impressed point was seeing your design for the firing apparatus. Great engineering skills with the hydraulic trigger mech!

@angrypatriot5392

I have that same comp on my Remington 700 6.5. I absolutely love it 💯🇺🇸👍

@GP-23

Nice thinking with the hydronic trigger, mechanically isolates the entire swinging motion free of any strings, while avoiding the sketch area of electric remote triggers.

@dalejones7459

1y↑1

I'm really glad that they legalize suppressors in Texas it makes a very big difference we can target practice with her 22 in the backyard without bothering the neighbors and the range is a lot different when you get a bunch of people out there with suppressors your ears aren't ringing when you leave I don't know why they were ever against the law in the first place

@alexs1972

I have a similar muzzlebrake called a Hypertap from a Precision Armament that's on two competition rifles, those dimples, at least for that brake, are pilot holes for you to drill out for additional muzzle flip mitigation if you so choose

@OveToranger

2y↑7

Interesting test-setup...would've been interesting to see with other comps (and suppressors, like e.g. the flow through from OSS or others)
I've used the SJC Titan previously, works very well...could've been interesting to see it against the Ultradyne as the SJC is a bit older...

@jarvislarson6864

Match up has been done on both and Apollo did considerably better,just like comparing the titan vs. Lesser competitors on the market.....if you want the best ultradyne is it hands down

@TheNewps

25w

Linear compensators work great to redirect the blast wave away from people on a firing line or at an indoor range.

@rvoykin

50w

If you’re into competition, shooting, then paying less than the tax stamp, makes a lot of sense for a better performance. I have this muzzle brake on my A.R. 15 a use for three gun and it’s awesome.

@namelessmotions3390

16w

I got bought two of these one on my ruger sfar 20’’ and my ruger American predator 18’’ mannnn I love how sweet it make my gun shit… been a slowww hunting season my sfar dropped one deer now I’m hunting my ruger American for deer until Sunday hopefully I get one before the season ends in Texas… will be going home to Alabama to finish off the season In February god speed

@daishi0001

This is all really cool, but that liquid trigger is by far the smartest thing I've seen all year.

@texpatriot8462

Your testing rig seems like the kind of thing the Project Farm Channel would build. Great idea. Love when we see objective testing.

@VSO_Gun_Channel

2y↑2

I love that channel

@nsob8897

2y↑3

I have a vg6 gamma on one of my rifles (pretty similar to the design of this one) and it works very nicely. I wouldn't turn my nose up at ultradyne at all...just haven't had the chance to buy one yet.
Don't have anymore guns that are threaded so...oh darn..guess I'll just have to go buy me another gun. Isn't life just a bummer sometimes?

@JeremyClow

Hydraulic trigger mech = AWESOME! Love it man.

@zionfire8268

21w

I'm alsmost more impressed with the hydraulic trigger actuator than I am the compensator...with that said, I think I need a few of those.

@guardianminifarm8005

Appreciate the thought & ingenuity. Appreciate the honesty also. Good testimony of company & product.

@themarshal2749

Love my ultradyne nighthawk on my AR-10. Super sweet look and very good at doing what it does.

@Synistercrayon

Looks like a lantac dragon, which I love.
Loud. Super effective on recoil

@markbarranco1410

2y↑3

Great to know but I'll still take suppressed over comp. Nice test rig!

@g-asplendidsavage1700

Great video only 6 minutes and 28 seconds to get to the point. Well done

@WKUConsulting

51w

Bro... meticulously done. Absolutely beautiful. Bravo

@frusignu2011

50w

I am interested in this channel and the quantitative vs qualitative data.
keep it coming.
been looking for a channel like this.

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