The Cure's full lineup history is as follows: Robert Smith (vocals, guitar 1976-present), Lol Tolhurst (drums, keyboards 1976-1989), Michael Dempsey (bass 1976-1979), Porl Thompson (guitar, keyboards 1976-1978, 1983-1992, 2005 -2010), Simon Gallup (bass, keyboards 1979-1982, 1985-present), Matthieu Hartley (keyboards 1979 -1980), Andy Anderson (drums 1983-1984), Phil Thornalley (bass 1983-1984), Boris Williams (drums 1984-1994), Roger O'Donnell (keyboards 1987 -1990, 1995-2005, 2011-present), Perry Bamonte (guitar, keyboards 1990-2005), Jason Cooper drums 1995-present) and Reeves Gabrels (guitar 2012-present)
Just as the group's lineup has changed, the band's sound has evolved throughout the years, starting off as a post-punk band similar to Wire and Gang of Four before morphing into a gothic rock band in the early 80's, to a synthpop group in the mid-80's and a power-pop-alternative band in the early 90's. The Cure has always been an alternative and very independent band which was evident from the early days. Shunning the anarchistic tendencies of many punk bands after their formation in 1976 , The Cure's first release was Killing an Arab, based on material from French writer Albert Camus' "L'Etranger" (translated into English as The Stranger or The Outsider). This track courted controversy because of its theme (misinterpreted as racist, it was in fact, about the futility of killing any ethnicity), but it started to secure a small following, which grew following the release of debut album Three Imaginary Boys and non-LP single Boys Don't Cry in 1979, the latter of which would become one of The Cure's most famous songs. At that time, The Cure embarked on tour as the support for Siouxsie & the Banshees' Join Hands Tour. After the sudden departure of guitarist John McKay, Robert was recruited as guitarist for the Banshees as the band 'felt he was the only person capable of taking on the task.' As a result, Robert completed the tour playing two sets a night with The Cure and Siouxsie and the Banshees.
Following this, The Cure moved from their punk leanings into the portentous post-punk territory, releasing three albums of doom-laden rock in three years, Seventeen Seconds, Faith and Pornography, the latter of which charted inside the UK top 10, though the band were repeatedly dogged by the "Second-class Joy Division" tag. Following their third set of line-up changes, the group released Japanese Whispers, a compilation of three singles and their b-sides. Through their desire to escape the Joy Division description, the singles were a poppier effort, featuring danceable tracks like Let's Go To Bed alongside pop songs like Love Cats. Following the commercial disappointment of follow-up album The Top in 1984, The Cure returned to form with 1985's The Head On The Door. Featuring the singles In Between Days and Close To Me, The Head on the Door was distant from the band's punk roots, having more in common with successful alternative bands like The Smiths and Echo & The Bunnymen than their gloomier roots.
Two years later, the eighth studio album Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me was a more stadium-sized effort, though featuring audacious pop songs like Why Can't I Be You, it was seemingly caught between two styles. However, it was the band's ninth effort (following the departure of last surviving founder member other than Robert Smith, Lol Tolhurst), Disintegration, that would be their greatest success, both critically and commercially. Disintegration spawned hit singles like Lullaby (no.5 in the UK), Love Song (an impressive no. 2 in the USA), Pictures of You, and Fascination Street. The album itself was a culmination of The Cure's directions through the eighties, featuring the poppier side combined with the more tender aspects, as well as the gloomier facets.
Following this, a remix compilation named Mixed Up was released in 1990, featuring one new track, Never Enough, and two years later tenth studio album Wish surfaced, which was a hit mainly from the momentum gained by Disintegration, though it also featured their most famous pop song, Friday I'm In Love (no.6 in the UK and no.18 in the US). During the years following this, the band became distracted and discouraged by the lawsuit launched by former member Lol Tolhurst, who felt he had been deprived of royalties. As a result, the 1996 album Wild Mood Swings felt unfocused, and was a critical and commercial failure, though the single Mint Car was a moderate hit.
In 1997, The Cure released the compilation Galore, featuring new song Wrong Number. Three years later, at the release of original album Bloodflowers, Robert Smith announced it would be the last album for the band, the album itself being a return to the gloomier rock of Pornography and Faith. Resultantly, another hits compilation was released in 2001. However, in 2004, the band surprised all by returning with a self-titled album, their twelfth studio album, which was a surprise hit, reaching the US Top 10, its lead single - The End of the World - becoming a modest hit on Modern Rock radio, and receiving a relatively warm reception from the press.
In May 2005, Smith fired Roger O'Donnell and Perry Bamonte from the band, along with Bamonte's brother Daryl, who had been The Cure's tour manager for many years. The remaining members of the band (Robert Smith, longtime bassist Simon Gallup and Jason Cooper) made a few appearances as a trio before it was announced that founding member Porl Thompson would be returning to The Cure.
In early 2007 the band toured Asia and Oceania, but a planned North American tour in Autumn 2007 was delayed until Spring 2008 so the band could continue recording their next album.
The band released their thirteenth album 4:13 Dream on 27 October 2008. Four singles and a remix EP called "Hypnagogic States" were releases on the 13th of each month preceding the album's release.
In 2009, Robert Smith won the Godlike Genius award at the NME Awards. On April 19, 2009, the band performed at the Coachella Festival in California.
During 2010, Robert Smith contributed songs to the soundtrack of the Tim Burton film "Alice in Wonderland" and provided guest vocals on the songs "Not in Love" by Crystal Castles and "Come to Me" by 65daysofstatic.
Between 31 May 2011 and 1 June 2011, the band performed three concerts at the Sydney Opera House performing the entirety of one of their first three albums on each night. Porl Thompson did not perform with the band at any of the concerts, but Roger O'Donnell performed with the band for the "Seventeen Seconds" and "Faith" concerts, and co-founding member Lol Tulhurst performed with the band for the first time since 1988 for the "Faith" concert. As of 2011, O'Donnell has returned to the lineup officially. In 2012, the band added former Tin Machine guitarist Reeves Gabrels to the lineup.
In 2013 The Cure started The Great Circle Tour, headlining festivals in Japan, South Korea and North America. In 2014 Robert Smith announced the upcoming release of a new album, to be called 4:14 Scream, featuring 14 songs recorded during the 4:13 Dream sessions and also an accompanying double album 4:26 Dream containing all the tracks from those sessions.
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The Same Deep Water as You
The Cure Lyrics
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Pushing out before I sleep
Can't you see I try
Swimming the same deep water as you is hard
The shallow drowned lose less than we
You breathe the strangest twist upon your lips
And we shall be together
And we shall be together
Kiss me goodbye
Bow your head and join with me
And face pushed deep reflections meet
The strangest twist upon your lips
And disappear the ripples clear
And laughing break against your feet
And laughing break the mirror sweet
So we shall be together
So we shall be together
Kiss me goodbye pushing out before I sleep
It's lower now and slower now
The strangest twist upon your lips
But I don't see and I don't feel
But tightly hold up silently
My hands before my fading eyes
And in my eyes your smile
The very last thing before I go
The very last thing before I go
The very last thing before I go
I will kiss you, I will kiss you
I will kiss you forever on nights like this
I will kiss you, I will kiss you
And we shall be together
In the beginning of the song, the singer is bidding farewell to someone, kissing them goodbye as he prepares to face something difficult. He is trying to explain to the other person that he is struggling to keep up with them, that keeping pace with their inner turmoil and struggles is not easy for him. He acknowledges that those who are not as emotionally invested in the situation, the "shallow drowned," do not suffer as much as they do. The two of them, however, are swimming in the same deep water, and it is hard to maintain their connection.
As the song progresses, the tone becomes increasingly melancholic, and the singer seems to be speaking to someone who is no longer with him. He speaks of reflections and ripples in the water, indicating a sense of nostalgia for what was lost. The singer mentions the other person's smile and, in the final verse, promises to kiss them forever on nights like this.
Overall, the song suggests a relationship that is fraught with emotional intensity and struggle, but one that is also loving and tender.
Line by Line Meaning
Kiss me goodbye
I want you to kiss me goodbye, signifying our separation
Pushing out before I sleep
I'm leaving now, so say goodbye and let me leave
Can't you see I try
I'm trying to make things work, but it's difficult
Swimming the same deep water as you is hard
Navigating through life's struggles like you do isn't easy
The shallow drowned lose less than we
Those who don't deeply feel or care for anything have it easier than us
You breathe the strangest twist upon your lips
There's something different, almost intriguing, about the way you speak
And we shall be together
We'll be united in our struggles and in our love
Bow your head and join with me
Come closer and join me in this difficult journey
And face pushed deep reflections meet
Let's look deeply within ourselves to truly understand each other
And disappear the ripples clear
The disturbances of life will fade away and become clear
And laughing break against your feet
We'll encounter happiness and joy together
And laughing break the mirror sweet
Our happiness will break through and shatter any negativity
It's lower now and slower now
Things have calmed down and are becoming quieter
But I don't see and I don't feel
I'm losing myself and not feeling or seeing anything anymore
But tightly hold up silently
I'll stay here and hold up my silence while struggling internally
My hands before my fading eyes
I'm struggling and my vision is fading away
And in my eyes your smile
The last thing I see before my vision fades away is your smile
The very last thing before I go
The last thing I want to see before I die is your smile
I will kiss you, I will kiss you
I'll love and cherish you forever
I will kiss you forever on nights like this
I'll always be here for you, especially during difficult times
Lyrics © Universal Music Publishing Group
Written by: Boris Williams, Laurence Andrew Tolhurst, Porl Thompson, Robert James Smith, Roger O'donnell, Simon Gallup
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@solyluna4967
Kiss me goodbye
Pushing out before I sleep
Can't you see I try?
Swimming the same deep water as you is hard
The shallow drowned lose less than we
The strangest twist upon your lips
And we shall be together
And we shall be together
Kiss me goodbye bow your head and join with me
And face pushed deep, reflections meet
The strangest twist upon your lips
And disappear, the ripples clear
And laughing break against your feet
And laughing break the mirror sweet
So we shall be together
So we shall be together
Kiss me goodbye
Pushing out before I sleep
It's lower now, and slower now
The strangest twist upon your lips
But I don't see, and I don't feel
But tightly hold up silently
My hands before my fading eyes
And in my eyes your smile
The very last thing before I go
The very last thing before I go
The very last thing before I go
I will kiss you, I will kiss you
I will kiss you forever on nights like this
I will kiss you, I will kiss you
And we shall be together
@fredrickneidhardt8064
I met my wife of nearly 17 years shortly before seeing The Cure in 1996. She was a huge fan and introduced me to so much good music. I lost her 5 years ago, and The Cure always reminds me of her. This song in particular brings tears to my eyes in remembrance of her. Life goes on, but memories are timeless. I will always miss her. I thought I would "kiss her forever on nights like this." Rest peacefully, eternally.
@ferd1572
She is in a better place right now! Hope you find purpose in your life, and that you can let the songs be good memories of her! Much love❤
@honkhonk6359
stay strong brother wagmi (we all gonna make it)
@johnscott1579
So sorry for your loss some people say the cure is depressing I find them just the opposite they are very inspiring singing about life.
@robertrydzewski1519
Stay strong brother 💪
@justtv1164
I'm so fucking sorry. My heart goes out to you. 💚
@lauce3998
The Cure is timeless because its pain is existential, it has no concrete cause. He'll never go out of fashion, his music will never expire.
@redfrost8631
Well said brothie.
@ryanrooprai5104
Sometimes I meditate to that song. It makes me feel good inside myself.
@oly8467
Exactly