Venting about his decision to drop the record his own way, he took to Twitter on March 1, 2011:
"i. did. this. not ISLAND DEF JAM. that's why you see no label logo on the artwork that I DID. guess its my fault for trusting my dumbass lawyer and signing my career over to a failing company. fuck Def Jam & any company that goes the length of signing a kid with dreams & talent w/ no intention of following through. fuck em. now back to my day. i want some oatmeal and toast. brunch swag."
As a member of the Odd Future (OFWGKTA) collective, his sound is distinctively soulful/r&b influenced, yet done in a way that could pass for something totally different. As Tyler, the Creator states, “It’s Smooth Ass Music About Bitches, Relationships And Being A Rich Young Nigga…But In A Swagged Out Way.”
Ocean was evacuated from the University of New Orleans to Los Angeles, California just as Hurricane Katrina hit in August 2005, and stayed in Los Angeles to pursue a music career. Ocean joined Los Angeles based collective OFWGKTA, who he met through mutual friends, at the end of 2009. In the end of 2009, he met Tricky Stewart, who helped Ocean sign a contract with Def Jam Recordings as an artist, however, he was initially unable to build a relationship with the company. In 2010, he changed his name from Christopher "Lonny" Breaux to Christopher Francis Ocean via a legal website. In an April 2011 interview, Ocean intimated that his relationship with Def Jam has strengthened since the release of his mixtape. On April 28, 2011, Ocean was arrested on unspecified charges by the LAPD, and was released on the morning after on April 29, 2011. Ocean joined his OFWGKTA bandmates for the first time on tour from May 12 to May 19, 2011. On May 31, 2011, Def Jam released the single Novacane on iTunes soon followed by Swim Good Taken from his mixtape Nostalgia, ULTRA. His first 'proper' album, Channel Orange was released on July 17, 2012.
In 2016, He released the visual album Endless alongside his second studio album Blonde, following several years of delays. Blonde debuted at number one in the United States and United Kingdom.
In 2017, Ocean released several singles, including Chanel and Lens, through his Blonded Radio show, and made several appearances on other songs by artists like Calvin Harris, A$AP Mob, and Tyler, the Creator.
Song for Women
Frank Ocean Lyrics
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If I was singing songs, just to sing the songs
Or if was singing cause that's what the bitches wanted
I couldn't play guitar like Van Halen
Had no secret chords like Saint David
But you still came around, ate your lunch with me
Used to park your car to try to bus with me
We could go to my house after school after school, after school
Cause my dad don't clock off 'til late, off 'til late, off 'til late
We could kick it in the living room
Looking through my whole vinyl collection
And you could teach me how to slow dance or something
And I'mma give you chills harmonizing to Otis, Isley, Marvin
And everytime somebody asked me
If I sing songs to get at women, I say yeah
They say no fair no fair that's cheating
I say shit, oh well, oh well
And everytime a nigga asks me
If I sing songs to get at women, I say yeah
They say no fair, no fair that's cheating
I say boy don't judge cause hell if you were me
You'd be singin' to her, like lah dah dah dah
Now I'm in the lab, always working late
Always sleeping past, the breakfast she makes
She used to stop by, come and holla at me
Put her purse down and try to battle rap me
She don't do that no more, no more, no more
Don't even listen to the songs I record
But she be banging that Drake in my car
I'm so far gone, she stay blasting Trey and his songs
All damn day long, it's like she never heard of me
Now everytime somebody asks me
If I sing songs to get at women
I say naw they say okay I don't believe it
I say nope I swear I never do it
And everytime a nigga asks me
If I sing songs to get at women, I say naw
They say who do you think you're kidding
I know you, you stole my girlfriend, fair enough
You see I just don't play fair, but it's fair enough
Cause yo girl broke my heart in half
Now I'm singing 'bout heartbreak
And now I'm singing 'bout love lost
Frank Ocean's "Songs for Women" tells a story of a young man who is attracted to a girl and is unsure whether his desire to sing is genuine or simply a means of impressing her. The opening lines indicate a boy who might have questioned his motives in singing, wondering whether he is using music to get women or it's something he does for the love of it. He goes on to describe his inability to play guitar as skillfully as Van Halen, highlighting his insecurities. Despite not being able to impress her with his musical ability, the girl still spends time with him, parking her car to meet him after school. The singer acknowledges his father's absence due to work, providing them with space in his living room to bond over his vinyl collection. The singer is attentive, taking a keen interest in the girl's tastes and allowing her to introduce him to new music.
The second verse sees the singer as an adult now, working hard in the studio and unable to give his former crush the attention he once did. She stops coming around, no longer challenging him with her rhymes, and he feels regretful. However, the singer tries to deny any intentions of using his music to attract women if confronted, even though he admitted earlier to the contrary. He goes so far as to accuse the questioner of doing the same thing he does, making his responses decidedly ambiguous.
Line by Line Meaning
When I was younger I used to wonder like
As a young person, I often thought deeply about...
If I was singing songs, just to sing the songs
Whether I sang songs for the sake of singing, without any real purpose...
Or if was singing cause that's what the bitches wanted
...or if I sang only to impress women, which seemed shallow.
I couldn't play guitar like Van Halen
I lacked the virtuoso skills of guitar greats such as Van Halen...
Had no secret chords like Saint David
...nor did I possess the musical genius of Saint David, with his unique chord progressions.
But you still came around, ate your lunch with me
Despite my lack of impressiveness, you came by to eat lunch with me.
Used to park your car to try to bus with me
You even went so far as to park your car and join me on the bus.
But I would say girl don't be dumb, I'm riding shotgun
I wasn't oblivious to your advances, but I had to let you know I was already taken.
We could go to my house after school after school, after school
I suggested that we hang out at my house after school... a lot.
Cause my dad don't clock off 'til late, off 'til late, off 'til late
My dad worked long hours, so we had time to ourselves in the evenings.
We could kick it in the living room
We could just relax in the living room,
Looking through my whole vinyl collection
And flip through my collection of vinyl records.
And you could teach me how to slow dance or something
You could show me how to dance slowly or any other cool moves you knew.
And I'mma give you chills harmonizing to Otis, Isley, Marvin
I would sing along with you to the soulful music of Otis Redding, The Isley Brothers, and Marvin Gaye.
And everytime somebody asked me
Whenever anyone inquired...
If I sing songs to get at women, I say yeah
...if I sang specifically to attract women, I would admit to it.
They say no fair no fair that's cheating
People would accuse me of being dishonest and manipulative.
I say shit, oh well, oh well
I would respond by saying 'oh well' to their criticisms.
And everytime a nigga asks me
Whenever a guy asked me...
If I sing songs to get at women, I say yeah
...if I sang only to woo women, I would admit to it again.
They say no fair, no fair that's cheating
They would echo the sentiment that it was unfair game.
I say boy don't judge cause hell if you were me
I would tell them not to be so hasty to judge because they wouldn't know what it's like to be in my shoes.
You'd be singin' to her, like lah dah dah dah
I would point out that they too would try their best to impress her through singing or some other way.
Now I'm in the lab, always working late
Nowadays, I'm holed up in the studio, working hard and long hours.
Always sleeping past, the breakfast she makes
So much so, that I sleep past the breakfast she makes for me.
She used to stop by, come and holla at me
Back when we were closer, she'd drop by to chat with me.
Put her purse down and try to battle rap me
During those visits, she even took the time to put down her purse and take me on in a battle rap.
She don't do that no more, no more, no more
Unfortunately, she doesn't come around anymore.
Don't even listen to the songs I record
She also stopped listening to the music I produced or sang.
But she be banging that Drake in my car
Ironically, she bumps to Drake's music in my car instead.
I'm so far gone, she stay blasting Trey and his songs
It's as if she's oblivious to me because she's stuck on Trey Songz.
All damn day long, it's like she never heard of me
She plays Trey's music all day as if she forgot about me completely.
Now everytime somebody asks me
Nowadays, when people ask me...
If I sing songs to get at women
...if I sing to get women...
I say naw they say okay I don't believe it
I deny it, but they don't seem convinced.
I say nope I swear I never do it
I double down and swear I don't do it.
And everytime a nigga asks me
And every time some guy asks me...
If I sing songs to get at women, I say naw
...if I sing to woo women, I once again deny it.
They say who do you think you're kidding
They retort, calling me out on my bluff.
I know you, you stole my girlfriend, fair enough
One person even accused me of stealing their girlfriend, an allegation I found fair enough to entertain.
You see I just don't play fair, but it's fair enough
I concede that I don't play by the rules sometimes, but that's fair enough.
Cause yo girl broke my heart in half
I explain that his girlfriend broke my heart into pieces.
Now I'm singing 'bout heartbreak
That's why I started singing about heartbreak.
And now I'm singing 'bout love lost
I'm going through the pain of losing someone I love and it's coming out in my music.
Lyrics © BMG Rights Management, Universal Music Publishing Group
Written by: Nathan Perez, Christopher Breaux
Lyrics Licensed & Provided by LyricFind
Radya El Kadiri
When I was younger I used to wonder like
If I was singing songs just to sing the songs
Or if was singing 'cause that's what the bitches wanted
I couldn't play guitar like Van Halen
Had no secret chords like Saint David
But you still came around
Ate your lunch with me
Used to park your car to try the bus with me
But I would say, "Girl, don't be dumb, I'm riding shotgun"
We could go to my house after school, after school, after school
'Cause my dad don't clock off 'til late, off 'til late, off 'til late
We could kick it in the living room
Looking through my whole vinyl collection
And you could teach me how to slow dance or something
And I'mma give you chills harmonizing to Otis, Isley, Marvin
And every time somebody asked me
If I sing songs to get at women, I say, "Yeah"
They say, "No fair, no fair, that's cheating"
I say, "Shit, oh well, oh well"
And every time a *** asks me
If I sing songs to get at women, I say, "Yeah"
They say, "No fair, no fair, that's cheating"
I say, "Boy, don't judge 'cause, hell, if you were me
You'd be singin' to her, like lah dah-dah, dah-dah
Lah dah-dah, dah-dah, lah dah-dah, dah-dah"
Now I'm in the lab, always working late
Always sleeping past the breakfast she makes
She used to stop by, come and holla at me
Put her purse down and try to battle rap me
She don't do that no more, no more, no more
Don't even listen to the songs I record
But she be banging that Drake in my car
I'm So Far Gone, she stay blasting Trey and his songs
All damn day long
It's like she never heard of me, heard of me
Now every time somebody asks me
If I sing songs to get my women
I say, "Naw", they say, "Okay, I don't believe it"
I say "Nope, I swear I never do it"
And every time a *** asks me
If I sing songs to get at women, I say, "Naw"
They say, "Who do you think you're kidding?
I know you, you stole my girlfriend"
Fair enough
You see I just don't play fair
But it's fair enough
'Cause your girl broke my heart in half
Now I'm singing "lah dah, dah-dah" 'bout heartbreak
And now I'm singing "lah dah, dah-dah" 'bout love lost
Damn
I'm saying though, like all I write is love songs
I mean I try
I come to the studio I-
You know what I do
What do you think I do it for? Huh?
Yeah, uh-huh
But you ain't listening, ever
But if you were
You might fuck with it
Yeah, all these songs for women
Songs for women
Songs for you, baby
For you
oceanwavesandcocaine
First Frank Ocean song I ever heard, I was in 6th grade and I found an old iPod shuffle in the back of the bus in LA , I feel like Nostalgia Ultra will be played 100 years from now
Jaden Moreno
That’s a fucking beautiful story
MrAdulu
that was also the first song of him I heard! and my favorite of his to this day
Yencizzle
girl..
Masilo Jack kgobodi
This song is pure inspiration
Radya El Kadiri
When I was younger I used to wonder like
If I was singing songs just to sing the songs
Or if was singing 'cause that's what the bitches wanted
I couldn't play guitar like Van Halen
Had no secret chords like Saint David
But you still came around
Ate your lunch with me
Used to park your car to try the bus with me
But I would say, "Girl, don't be dumb, I'm riding shotgun"
We could go to my house after school, after school, after school
'Cause my dad don't clock off 'til late, off 'til late, off 'til late
We could kick it in the living room
Looking through my whole vinyl collection
And you could teach me how to slow dance or something
And I'mma give you chills harmonizing to Otis, Isley, Marvin
And every time somebody asked me
If I sing songs to get at women, I say, "Yeah"
They say, "No fair, no fair, that's cheating"
I say, "Shit, oh well, oh well"
And every time a *** asks me
If I sing songs to get at women, I say, "Yeah"
They say, "No fair, no fair, that's cheating"
I say, "Boy, don't judge 'cause, hell, if you were me
You'd be singin' to her, like lah dah-dah, dah-dah
Lah dah-dah, dah-dah, lah dah-dah, dah-dah"
Now I'm in the lab, always working late
Always sleeping past the breakfast she makes
She used to stop by, come and holla at me
Put her purse down and try to battle rap me
She don't do that no more, no more, no more
Don't even listen to the songs I record
But she be banging that Drake in my car
I'm So Far Gone, she stay blasting Trey and his songs
All damn day long
It's like she never heard of me, heard of me
Now every time somebody asks me
If I sing songs to get my women
I say, "Naw", they say, "Okay, I don't believe it"
I say "Nope, I swear I never do it"
And every time a *** asks me
If I sing songs to get at women, I say, "Naw"
They say, "Who do you think you're kidding?
I know you, you stole my girlfriend"
Fair enough
You see I just don't play fair
But it's fair enough
'Cause your girl broke my heart in half
Now I'm singing "lah dah, dah-dah" 'bout heartbreak
And now I'm singing "lah dah, dah-dah" 'bout love lost
Damn
I'm saying though, like all I write is love songs
I mean I try
I come to the studio I-
You know what I do
What do you think I do it for? Huh?
Yeah, uh-huh
But you ain't listening, ever
But if you were
You might fuck with it
Yeah, all these songs for women
Songs for women
Songs for you, baby
For you
DeeBlach vlogs
“But she be banging THAT DRAKE IN MY CAR” 🤩😌 hits home every single time
avril
if only it was on Spotify 😓
류웅헤이
frrrr
Yani
so amazing