This double CD from Naxos is filed under Gustav Mahler, but should be filed… Read Full Bio ↴This double CD from Naxos is filed under Gustav Mahler, but should be filed under Various Artists, because only the first track "Adagietto" is from his 5th symphony. The rest is from other composers like Johann Strauss II for "The Beautiful Blue Danube".

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Gustav Mahler Lyrics

We have lyrics for these tracks by Gustav Mahler:

4 Rückert‐Lieder: 3. Blicke mir nicht in die Lieder Blicke mir nicht in die Lieder Meine Augen schlag' ich niede…
5 Lieder: 2. Blicke mir nicht in die Lieder Blicke mir nicht in die Lieder Meine Augen schlag' ich niede…
5 Lieder: 3. Blicke mir nicht in die Lieder Blicke mir nicht in die Lieder Meine Augen schlag' ich niede…
5 Rückertlieder: 3. Blicke mir nicht in die Lieder Blicke mir nicht in die Lieder Meine Augen schlag' ich niede…
Blicke mir nicht in die Lieder Blicke mir nicht in die Lieder Meine Augen schlag' ich niede…
Das Lied Von Der Erde: Das Trinklied vom Jammer der Erde Schon winkt der Wein im gold′nen Pokale, Doch trinkt noch ni…
Das Trinklied vom Jammer der Erde Schon winkt der Wein im goldnen Pokale, doch trinkt noch ni…
Der Abschied Die Sonne scheidet hinter dem Gebirge. In alle Täler steigt…
Der Einsame im Herbst Herbstnebel wallen bläulich überm See; vom Reif bezogen ste…

Lieder Blicke mir nicht in die Lieder Meine Augen schlag' ich niede…
Lieder eines fahrenden Gesellen: I. Wenn mein Schatz Hochzeit macht When my darling has her wedding-day, her joyous wedding-day,…
Rückert-Lieder No. 1: Blicke mir nicht in die Lieder Blicke mir nicht in die Lieder Meine Augen schlag' ich niede…
Rückert-Lieder: 3. Blicke mir nicht in die Lieder Blicke mir nicht in die Lieder Meine Augen schlag' ich niede…
Rückert-Lieder: Blicke mir in die Lieder Blicke mir nicht in die Lieder Meine Augen schlag' ich niede…
Rückert-Lieder: Blicke Mir Nicht In Die Lieder Blicke mir nicht in die Lieder Meine Augen schlag' ich niede…
Rückert-Lieder: II. Blicke mir nicht in die Lieder Blicke mir nicht in die Lieder Meine Augen schlag' ich niede…
Rückertlieder: Blicke mir nicht in die Lieder Blicke mir nicht in die Lieder Meine Augen schlag' ich niede…
Von der Jugend Mitten in dem kleinen Teiche steht ein Pavillon aus grünem …

Wenn mein Schatz Hochzeit macht Wenn mein Schatz Hochzeit macht, Fröhliche Hochzeit macht, …

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04Symphony No. 5 in C sharp minor: IV. Adagietto

05Mahler: Symphony No. 5 in C-Sharp Minor: IV. Adagietto. Sehr langsam

06Symphony No.5 in C sharp minor (Adagietto) {15}

07Feierlich und gemessen, ohne zu schleppen

08Part II: Ich spur’ soeben nebeind um Felsenhoh - Hier ist die Aussicht frei - Freudig empfangen wir

09III. In ruhig fliessender Bewegung

10Andante moderato

11Mahler: Symphony No. 5 in C-Sharp Minor: IV. Adagietto

12Symphony No.5 in C sharp minor: 4. Adagietto (Sehr Langsam)

13Symphony No. 6, 3. Andante Moderato

14Symphony No. 2 In C Minor - "Resurrection" / 1st Movement - Allegro maestoso (Totenfeier): Im Tempo nachgeben

15Symphony No. 6, 2. Scherzo. Wuchtig

16Symphony No. 1 in D Major, "Titan": III. Feierlich und gemessen, ohne zu schleppen

17Mahler / Transcr. Tharaud: Symphony No. 5 in C-Sharp Minor, Pt. 3: IV. Adagietto

18Der Einsame im Herbst

19Symphony No. 5 in C sharp minor: IV. Adagietto. Sehr langsam

20Rückert-Lieder: Ich bin der Welt abhanden gekommen

21Ich bin der Welt abhanden gekommen

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Most interesting comments from YouTube:

Евгений Молчанов

2y↑11

0:00 - вступление
3:38 - гп
5:17 - пп
8:02 - разработка 1 раздел
11:05 - 2 раздел
13:41 - 3 раздел
14:35 - реприза
2 часть скерцо
16:28 - осн тема
20:27 - трио
3 часть траур марш
25:31 - осн тема
30:43 - сред раздел
32:36 - реприза
4 часть финал
35:56 - вступление
37:04 - гп
39:56 - пп
коммментарий Duck Sata
9 месяцев назад.
Выставил для удобства

Анна Наумова

52w↑4

1 ч. сонатне allegro
0:00 - вступ
3:38 - гп D, мелодія - друга пісня “Йшов я вранці серед поля” з “Пісень мандрівного підмайстра"
5:17 - пп A, теж друга пісня з “Пісень мандрівного підмайстра"
8:02 - РБ 1 розділ
11:05 - 2 р.
13:41 - 3 р.
14:35 - РП
2 ч. скерцо
16:28 - ОТ A
20:27 - тріо F
3 ч. траурний марш
25:31 - ОТ d, на тему канону “Братику Мартін”.
30:43 - серед. розділ G-dur, на тему коди пісні “Блакитні очі” з “Пісень мандрівного підмайстра"
32:36 - РП
4 ч. фінал
35:56 - вступ
37:04 - гп f-moll
39:56 - пп Des-dur

alice

2y↑55

0:00 - вступление
3:38 - гп
5:17 - пп
2 часть скерцо
16:28 - осн тема
20:27 - трио
3 часть траур марш
25:31 - осн тема

4 часть финал
35:56 - вступление
37:04 - гп
39:56 - пп

Kyubiwan0

2y↑2

In the 1st movement I can imagine the Muse from Love Live.
- Honoka Kousaka: 1st theme (03:38)
- Eli Ayase: 1st violins
- Kotori Minami: Piccolo
- Umi Sonoda: English horn
- Rin Hoshizora: 1st trumpet
- Maki Nishikino: Harp
- Nozomi Tojo: Timpani
- Hanayo Koizumi: 1st oboe
- Nico Yazawa: 2nd theme (05:18)

Олександр Кучинський

2y↑1

All comments from YouTube:

Tijana Nikolic

4y↑251

Mahler's music is something that is closest to a perfect balance, he had a very good taste for composing and where to put what.....amazing

TonyMontana

3y↑6

Deutschqualitat’ 👌

Isaac Anwar Watts

3y↑6

@TonyMontana he wasnt german

musik

3y↑5

@Isaac Anwar Watts curious that the old Austrian vs. German nationality debate is only ever evaded in the case of Adolf Hitler, isn't it?

Isaac Anwar Watts

3y↑3

@musik no everyone knows he was Austrian

cheapa creeps

3y↑3

As all things should be

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NowItsKevin

7y↑230

man, mahler never runs out of ideas!!! how does he do it!!!! 4th movement, simply EPIC

Scott Miller

4y↑11

Powerful Satisfying ENDING!!!!!

Getting It Done

4y↑19

And this was only his first symphony. Stunning.

eksium deus

Hey mahler, I am your biggest fan!

Redfish playz

2y↑2

4th movement Here in this Symphony one of the best pieces

Евгений Молчанов

2y↑11

Анна Наумова

52w↑4

Maestro Theoretically

3y↑135

41:08 - I'm crying this is sooo beautiful

Redfish playz

2y↑4

Yh the Part where the music is Stretching (breit means wide), so beautiful with the timp Tremolo

トヨトヨおそおそ

1y↑1

まむ

Taylor Nelson

5y↑41

I just performed this last night with an orchestra. An experience like no other.

Sonic fan 2000…

I’m about to play this in Youth Orchestra!

Maxwell Kaye

7y↑107

The last two notes almost killed me with awesomeness.

Scott Miller

4y↑11

The way it,s supposed to end and only a handful of some of the greatest conductors of all time did it this way!!!!!

George Luft

34w

That last note wasn't written for the bass drum to play, but dang, does it sound good!

Henrique Nascimento

2y↑6

one of the most glorious compositions i ever heard in my life

alice

2y↑55

Юки Маленький

1y↑2

большое человеческое спасибо от судентов муз.ВУЗов)))

gayerest

8y↑75

I actually just listened to Mahler for the first time last night (5th Symphony) and now this. Exactly what I needed.

Isaac Anwar Watts

You must've have listened to them all by now, 4 years on...

Detective Home

@Isaac Anwar Watts now 5!
It's 2022 🤣

Erik Wetzels

2y↑1

lol i first properly listened to mahler like 4 or 5 days ago, also his fifth, and now i am listening to this

Stephen Jablonsky

4y↑7

That is an amazing amount of music that is never less than wonderful. This symphony takes you on an epic journey of discovery that is thrilling from beginning to end. This is pure genius. Us poor mortals can only follow the score in utter amazement.

MusicalEd

7y↑37

Magnificent, listening, living and reading a well orchestrated story. Composer with the knowledge of those preceding him, and he made his presentation and style unique. Truly a master!

Wyatt Wahlgren

6y↑16

That part at the opening of the fourth movement always gets me.

Blue

2y↑143

36:20 This gives me goosebumps when Titan shows her true power, the music is just so FIREEE
Rip Lenny~~

Lumbreras Gil Octavio

2y↑26

53:45

Taylor Miller

2y↑4

I wondered if this was what was playing, thanks for confirming it.

memet3m

2y↑11

did... I just get spoiled lmao...

Halcy0n-5

2y↑4

I am so glad to see this comment here.

Nico Esperon

2y↑6

It exactly what titan was, jolly and calm for the first time but when around 36:00 it was her END GAME

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Scott Miller

4y↑12

Terrific performance Worthy of a rousing standing ovation!!!!!

Jeff Hietala

4y↑7

My very first symphony concert I went to was in 1997 when I was about 15 or 16 years old when my parents took me to watch my city's symphony orchestra perform the Mahler 2nd symphony. It was an amazing experience.

Shawn Hampton

3y↑1

This performance is so amazing. I treasure it. Love following the score.

Lucas Kenji

3y↑63

it's hard to believe that someone as inspired as Mahler actually existed

King Tyrion I

3y↑2

Perfect. Superb. Proves why Mahler is one of my favorite composers. Ever.

Aria C.

5y↑14

Heard this first at a concert. Now I can never stop listening to it.

Autostade67

2y↑10

As Walter Benjaimin said in regards to Proust, "All great works found or dissolve a genre." Surely Mahler did both: his endless drive for both the absolute of 'farewell' and that of 'resurrection' dissolves Romanticism while at once founding something from its attempts into an extraordinarily extended reach...a vision into Modernism, a kind of 'metasymphonism' - symphonies about symphony: pastiche, reference, hybridization, about the limits and limitlessness of tonal consciousness, and about the metaphysical boundaries of music itself, which, as - to his mind and many - the greatest of the human arts is, being all we have, the only sense of the utter, of nothingness, of eternity.

Brennen Taggart

this is the best comment I've read here... thank you

Marc Van Rijswijk

3y↑5

The clarinet melody in 20:44 and 21:22 sounds very much like the second part of Mozart's Linz symphony

Tyler LaChance

7y↑22

This is my gateway into Mahler!!!

pbrower2a1

6y↑1

This is the gateway that I would suggest to anyone, as it is still classical in structure even if the language of the fourth movement is apocalypse.

- F#B -

8y↑8

Thank you very much!! Now we can hear these masterworks following the orchestration in the scores.

Kyubiwan0

2y↑2

Marconi Quinta C 2019-20

7y↑23

This simphony is absolutely outstanding

Олександр Кучинський

2y↑1

Karl Svatos

6y↑7

It is a story, a musical narrative so magnificent every moment here will last for eternity.

Technik-Lexikon

4y↑14

That 3rd mvt is priceless

Frank T

45w↑1

13:18 - 16:18 best 3 minutes of music ever

Sheet Music World & Music Tutorials

5y↑26

I wonder if Mahler was aware that the opening of his first symphony was so influenced by the opening of Beethoven's 4th symphony.

Quotenwagnerianer

5y↑10

If he wasn't aware, then it certainly wasn't influenced...

iluvpopcorn23

5y↑14

@Quotenwagnerianer that's not necessarily true. Someone can have a subconscious recollection of a piece without drawing direct inspiration

The Major

4y↑10

Sheet Music World & Music Tutorials Mahler has a habit of making subtle references to other composers, less direct quotes and more a clear homage. This is one example, the very beginning of the Third Symphony is a nod to Brahms’ First Symphony, and the rhythm played in the opening trumpet solo of his Fifth Symphony is the same pattern (three short triplets, one long note) as the famous first 4 notes of Beethoven’s own Fifth Symphony.

Edit: I also just remembered the last movement of the Seventh Symphony, which is so close to Die Meistersinger at points that I refuse to believe Mahler, the greatest opera conductor of his age, didn’t know what he was doing.

SpaghettiToaster

4y↑4

There's no way he didn't, the similarity is too exact to not be deliberate. It's almost a direct copy, albeit reochestrated.

Robin Barr

3y↑3

I was listening to this in a long queue, but I had to stop to find out why this version was so vivid. Bernstein. Of course, Bernstein.

BandManDan

3y↑1

The long drones near the end of this piece are heartbreaking. follow the death in the third movement and the out crying of pain at the beginning of the fourth I feel that these drones remind us of the emptiness that occurs after loss. Drones start and 42:00 to 53:00

Sam Dasgupta

2y↑1

This was probably my favourite piece to have watched at the Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra. From the New World is a close competitor.

Michael

29w

Back in 1981, the original trailer for the fantasy movie DRAGONSLAYER used this music. Absoluley perfect! When I saw the film on opening night, I was instead treated to Alex North UNUSED score for 2001: A SPACE ODESSSEY, music he recycled after Kubrick discarded it in favor of the classical music he ended up using in the film. For me, it was like watching STAR WARS with Scott Joplin. I later studied music with one of the principle chairs in this very recording under Bernstein, and plan to adapt the music to the film as originally "suggested" by the trailer. Mahler remains one of my favorite composers (the 2nd Symphony and Kindertotenlieder being my favorites). Thanks for sharing.

gljm 1159

3y↑4

Mahler uses the melody from the first song in his " Lieder Eines Fahrendon Gesellen" , titled: "Ging heut' Morgen übers Feld" as the main theme of the first movement.

adil`bek k.

thank you very much for doing this, i love when i can listen Symphony with partitions, thanks a lot!

DieuLinh Tran

2y↑2

3 часть траурный марш
2-я тема 27:40
4 часть
Темы истины (Барсова)
1 43:55
2 44:00
3 44:12
4 44:18

Элементы вступления 1 части: 46:56 , 48:28

Κίρκη

5y↑19

I love the two chords at 8:05

Печенюшка

2y↑1

same here😍😍😍😍

Terry UniGeezer Peterson

1y↑1

The opening was the inspiration for the original Star Trek theme.

LostParachutes

1y↑1

There were people who didn't liked it at the time and even criticized this. Think about that. Imagine dislike a music of a man like Mahler.

Xavier Bordes

5y↑5

Quel langage musical prodigieux, et orchestration formidable ....

Carson Wall

2y↑1

The opening is epic and quite similar to Beethoven 4

Conrad Dean

5y↑52

One of the greatest things any human being has made, ever

Scott Miller

4y↑7

The Greatest Symphony ever written and composed by anyone ever it,s Epic !!!!!

DynastieArtistique

3y↑2

@Scott Miller Uhhhh

Scott Miller

3y↑2

@DynastieArtistique Uhhhh Yes it is !!!!!

DynastieArtistique

3y↑7

@Scott Miller look I love Mahler as much as you do but don’t you think saying that the first is the greatest symphony ever written is overblowing it a tiny bit?

Scott Miller

3y↑3

@DynastieArtistique Of course but I'm partial to it there's something very unusual about it, especially if the ending is powerful!

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Redfish playz

2y↑6

37:36 that march is so statisfying

PhilHarmonicus

2y↑1

What a performance!!!

A B

Nel Quarto Tempo è meraviglioso l’episodio delle Viole, die Eintritt der Violen, come lo chiama Mahler stesso nelle sue conversazioni con Nathalie Bauer-Lechner, la quale ci ha conservato almeno tre autotestimonianze di Mahler sulla sua Prima Sinfonia. Questo episodio sembra giungere da un'altra parte del mondo, forse dal passato, o da un mondo parallelo, che penetra nella Sinfonia. La Viola esprime qui tutta la sua potenza, con il suo icastico breve disegno dapprima di tre note, poi di cinque, poi più ampio: una irruzione perentoria, che si scioglie poi in un disegno bellissimo, per ritornare poi alla fine alla cellula iniziale.

unnamed boi

3y↑156

mahler: first symphony already a banger

mar g

3y↑1

i know right

F. P.

3y↑1

Check out Das Klagende Lied, an even earlier work he wrote when he was 15-19. That's a banger too

unnamed boi

@F. P. ah yes, i have listened to those too.
lieder eines fahrenden gesellen are also so good.

LaserNikiXCX

3y↑2

Broke the charts, dethroned your faves, wig flew orbiting mars

Edmundo Adler

Me acuerdo cuando solía ir a los teatros y óperas, recuerdo estar en el primer batallón de cuirassiers al servicio militar de Napoleon Bonaparte

Scott Miller

5y↑4

Superb especially the ending !!!!!

Júlia Freitas

2y↑8

This symphony sounds like a soundtrack! 43:20

Patrick Tulher

i think it sounds better than any soundtrack, every movie composer have studied mahler's symphonies

Joan Schansberg

Love this 😀 ❤

Johnavon Joseph Jin

6y↑13

11:27 So clearly hear the sound of the mechanical action of the flute changing notes

Tahj Kuemmerle

31w

"Evening D'Albert! Masterful performance my friend."

el guitablo

7y↑19

Not generally a fan of Bernstein's Mahler - but that's a super rendition!

Getting It Done

Better yet....it was a live performance.

Detective Home

Not a fan?! Whose Mahler could you possibly like more than Bernstein?!

mlpp iina

2y↑3

19:08 so beautiful!!

Cícero Moraes

Beautiful!

Sean

4y↑5

I can feel the Titan in mvt4

Thalia T

6y↑50

25:32 love that part 😊

no no square

2y↑1

bass solo 😀

Y_x-f

1y↑1

@no no square and timpani

vivasavonarola

7y↑8

many thanks for posting this masterwork

Сергей

4y↑5

11:58-12:10 very beautiful 13:17. 38:05 POWER

richard otani

5y↑5

IMVHO the greatest symphonic work ever.

Scott Miller

4y↑3

Absolutely the greatest work of music ever composed Mahler was a genius and died an untimely death, very sad !!!!!

Armando Gonella

6y↑5

T H E G E N I U S ! ! !

AVIDEOGAL

3y↑3

INCONCEIVABLE THAT YOU CAN NOTATE THE MIRACULOUS !!! THOUGH MAHLER IS QUOTED AS SAYING HIS WORK WAS LIKE TAKING DICTATION FROM GOD - ALMOST EQUALLY UNBELIEVABLE IS THAT SO MUCH OF THE GREATEST PARTS WERE HANDLED WITH NOTHING BUT QUARTER NOTES, ONE WOULD NEVER GUESS THIS GREAT TEAM OF GOD/MAHLER WOULD BE ABLE TO CLIMB TO SUCH HIGH HEIGHTS WITH NOTHING BUT SIMPLE QUARTER NOTES....... !!!

Ruth Salgado

3y↑8

Rest in pieces, violinists in 4th movement....

Sean

As a violinist playing this, im resting in pieces

Ethan Altman

4y↑4

30:30 is beautiful

음악감상용

아니 진짜 소름끼치게 좋네

Печенюшка

네~😍😍😍

Redfish playz

2y↑2

13:15 mvt 4 foreshadowing

Richard Huigen

5y↑1

Mahler at what he does best.

Steve Watson Music

6y↑4

Thank you for posting this!

Stan Marshall

7y↑4

This has to be the most "Viennese" and well executed Mahler 1st I've ever heard aside from Tennstedt's w/ Chicago.
(And have heard many a Mahler Firsts, mostly live in concerts.)

This is a sublime orchestra with lots of Mahler experience in their history, and LB takes a most effective tempi, opening up the music to hear it's soloistic aspects.....one hears all the instrumentation here. But I'd have taken the funeral dirge a bit slower.
-StanM, N.Y. Mahler Society.

Chanarchrist

le troisième mouvement me transporte tellement loin, merci

BeeShin

3y↑1

Such a big orchestra

Kary Smiley

5y↑161

1. 00:00
2. 16:27
3. 25:30
4. 35:55

Ruth Salgado

4y↑1

Thx ;)

Kary Smiley

@Ruth Salgado np😉

Blue

Respect man

Luiz Berg

5y↑6

Sinfonia é uma história,
uma viagem, e eu gostei
dessa viagem .
invente a sua . . .

e boa viagem também .

. *

An Angry Juicebox

28:23
26:17
32:19
34:03
36:58
27:30
44:31
37:15
37:37
50:28
51:35
51:46
52:15
52:33

Simon Kawasaki

People interestingly dismiss the first as lacking in material compared to the other symphonies of Mahler. I disagree. At the very least, the first and final movements are completely filled with brilliant ideas, able to be compared to those of even the fifth and sixth.

FlagelumDei

8y↑8

Thank you for this ! could you tell me which program do you use ? thank you

Mestres da Técnica Vocal - Ian Goncalves

I want to know too

Thomas Kobialka

8y↑6

I use paint.net to save all of the pages of the score into JPEG format. I then use Cyberlink Powerdirector 13 to sync the pages with the audio.

BohYeon Han

diegu01 ok there is a site that you can use.

Legend's Chant

Notes for myself:
8:00
14:49
15:20
22:40
27:36
31:06
32:15
41:10
47:28

Thomas

Thanks to everyone for putting in the time of the parts you like. I do check those out.

Redfish playz

2y↑1

40:36
So beautiful

aram

3y↑1

Klezmer sections in the 3rd mvt:
28:03
28:54
33:31

DynastieArtistique

Literally my favorite parts

Bonnie Bour

3y↑2

The second movement basically starts with Frère Jacques in a minor key!

Pascal

3y↑1

yupp!

Liang Seng

3y↑1

You mean the third movement

Bonnie Bour

3y↑1

@Liang Seng aha! Yes, I do😆

Basile Lefebvre

45:28 trumpet excerpt of the fourth movement

Gussy Rikh

5y↑1

Beautiful..

Jacky Liu

Personal timestamp for audition: 3:56

이광석

5y↑8

The 1st movement (Langsam Schleppend - Immer sehr gemachlich) sounds very kawaii. The five-note motif (8:02 for example) sounds like Nico-nico-nii.

pbrower2a1

7y↑25

Had Mahler died just after completing this work (at 28) he would still be recognized as a great master! See also Mozart, Schubert, Chopin, and Bizet.

Quotenwagnerianer

7y↑1

Felipe: Mahler's heart condition was not congenital. He probably aquired it during childhood. In the end this defect was not the cause of his death, but it helped the bacterial infection that did kill him develop in the first place.

Maxwell Kaye

7y↑3

+dslay511 The shock from how awesome his symphony turned out.

Archis

7y↑3

Bizet? Don't make me laugh

Maxwell Kaye

7y↑1

Archishman Ghosh Bizet can't be that bad, can he?

Iván Casado

6y↑2

Bizet? who d fuk is Bizet?

Dylan Le

5y↑13

36:05
38:00
44:40
45:28
tmea trombone cuts

isaiah cruz

7y↑14

27:30 favorite part

Johnny Kho

7y↑3

Fiddler on the roof ;-)

Radio Free Europe

3y↑1

That's the only part. It's the soul.

Super clef

46w

43:15 climax of the climax

Tyoma Ani

2nd part I started understand only after 5 years of listening

DaveDexterMusic

5y↑14

Or the "Wholly Legitimises Me Writing Long Drone Chord Sections Without Feeling Guilty" symphony

F. P.

4y↑6

That's a weird way of writing "surpassing every composer before me with my first 'proper' work" symphony

Helena

6y↑1

that finale is something else...

Da Coco Nut Nut

Oh no no XD

DjLogomolo

3y↑1

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Glen Kaiser

6y↑18

awww no Blumine movement. people told Malher the symphony was to long and told him to remove the original 2nd movement. Now we need to search to find one of the most beautiful bits of Mahler.

Remo Mazzetti

3y↑3

Nobody told Mahler to remove the original second movement: he removed because he thought it was weak. And when he dropped it, he had already written his next symphony which was much longer than the 5 movement First. And finally, he never made any changes to anything based on anyone's criticism. The amount of misinformation and useless drivel that gets posted on YouTube is amazing and depressing.

SynchroScore

5y↑3

A fine recording, except that looking at the score confirms the one complaint I have about Bernstein's interpretation: There is no tempo change at #59 in the fourth movement. I don't know why some conductors insist on rushing through the end.

The Major

4y↑6

Sylderon Because that’s what Mahler wanted? Literally the next two indications are “from here to the end no longer play broadly” and “urgently to the end”. Mahler himself was also a firm believer in tempo modifications both as a composer and a conductor, often indulging a sense of rubato and changing tempi for effect at points a modern conductor would never dare. It should also be noted that Mahler was less interested in literalist interpretations of his scores than he was in his pieces being performed effectively, going as far as to tell a young Klemperer during the rehearsals for the premiere of the Eighth Symphony, “If, after my death, something doesn’t sound right, then change it. You have not only a right but a duty to do so.”

LEE STAMM

@The Major As a conductor, Mahler typically sought clarity. His admonition to make changes was primarily in regard to performance variables which affect that clarity, such as the quality of the orchestra and the acoustics of the venue, factors that any good conductor considers carefully. He did not give license to alter the essence of his compositions. Among Mahler's handwritten notations on his final 1909 Symphony 1 performance score (which can be accessed in the NYPO on-line archive) is one near 60, indicating that the final bars of the coda should be taken more slowly. Both Bruno Walter and Bernstein were acquainted with that score and made short notations on it. Bernstein always rushed through the final bars like he had a cab waiting with the meter running, which certainly doesn't "sound right" to me, and never will. In my view, the best Mahler conductors do not diminish the great power of the finale with a rush job.

The Major

2y↑1

@LEE STAMM And just what exactly is the “essence” of a composition? Did Mahler consider the “essence” of Schumann or Bruckner when he, respectively, re-orchestrated and cut their scores? Perhaps, but when push came to shove he reserved the right to take creative liberties when he felt that such intervention was called for. Besides, what makes you so certain that Mahler himself expected these pieces to be only played one way, with no variation in tempo from performance to performance? Many composers have scores with absolutely nonsensical metronome markings, and some have no specific BPM at all. Is the “essence” of Brahms violated when Walter absolutely races through the coda of the Second Symphony? Walter didn’t think so, and Brahms himself was deliberately vague with his tempo markings so that these kinds of interpretive differences would be encouraged. Mahler edited these symphonies practically every time he got the chance to have them re-performed. I’m not convinced that he himself ever thought that there was only one “correct” way, but rather that was the interpretation he had settled on for that specific occasion.

LEE STAMM

@The Major I concur that the "essence" of any artistic creation is difficult to define. And I agree that there is no single "correct" way. However, what Mahler the conductor did or did not do in his interpretations of other composers was not the focus of my comment. The specific reference was to the closing bars of the coda of Symphony 1. I'm all in favor of interpretive latitude, but racing through this passage at Vivace is not even remotely near what Mahler intended.

The Major

@LEE STAMM Says who? Mahler. Who provided the tempo markings I referenced above? Mahler. “What Mahler intended” is something that literally changed on a performance to performance basis. I really don’t think it’s that much of a stretch, all he’s doing is using earlier Mahler tempo indications. Bernstein certainly could have made a more concrete argument for his interpretation of Mahler 1 than Walter could have for his interpretation of Brahms 2 with these markings in mind.

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