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1. Emerging from the rubble of several outfits (most notably Salvation, Slik, Zones and PVC2, the latter featuring Midge Ure on guitar) Science saw Scotsmen Billy McIsaac and Kenny Hyslop take a turn for the futuristic: synthesizers, minimal and what have you. Two singles followed: 'Tokyo' and 'Look Don't Touch', both in 1980. Both failed to chart and Science disbanded. McIsaac pursued a solo career; Hyslop briefly played in Simple Minds.

2. Science consist of three solo artist and Science Magazine's podcast. "Fauxhead the Alchemist", "Ill-Literate" and "The Murphy Brown Solo Show". Their music is noise/experimental at its core.

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Camille

48w↑21

Its so so important to advocate for yourself in the health care system. If you need to go for a second, third, fourth opinion then dont hesitate.

My Endometriosis specialist saw the drugs I was put on for pain and couldnt believe it at my age (mid 20s) and said to me that me being on meds like that is usually a red flag in the system because it tells them my problems are not being treated properly. My specialist says one of the hardest thing is to get med students to further their education after getting their GP. He said there are specialties that need doctors but students dont want to have to take on more debt (who could blame em).

I was eventually sent to a pain clinic that tackled pain from the brain not the localized area. They give you recomendations for diet, excercise, PT, etc so it can be tackled by a whole body and mind approach.

Edit to add: I had a failed surgery due to scar tissue buildup, spent my mid 20s being bed ridden before finding my specialist. Dont give up, I know its easier said than done but it can be done. I had so many suicidal thoughts because I felt trapped in my body. My specialist gave me my life back but it took going through several doctors and a couple failed surgeries before I found the proper help. I had to travel about an hour away to see him and luckily if I didnt have my own car I had a ride. I come from a privileged background, there are people that dont have the ability to access specialists, whether due to financial or economic constraints. Add on the US medical insurance system and people are even more restricted where they can go. Its terrible. Access is a big problem.

Dont give up, you are worth fighting for.

Art By Hazel🇨🇦

1y↑1

Thank you for sharing this information from a medical perspective.

I’ve seen many doctors including therapists who are trained the old way. They’re very dismissive when they hear me talk about trauma. I felt helpless for years and took their advice along with the prescriptions to treat pain, inflammation, etc.

I had had enough feeling like a Frankenstein and took matters seriously. I went online and researched about complex trauma.

My chronic pain went from 97% to 3%. I suffered for years. Then, I processed and released stuck energy/trauma from my body and have seen immediate results because feeling your pain is healing your chronic pain.

I’m so happy and grateful. Crying tears of joy.

I feel seen, heard, and validated.

Thank you both. ❤

May we all be well.

May we remember that having empathy is connected to neuroscience.
Finally, science is catching up along with spiritual growth from our pain.

Blessings of health, happiness, wholeness, love, empathy, and infinite abundance for all.
✨❤️🌎🌟✨♒️🔥🍀✨

All comments from YouTube:

Slow Down

1y↑99

This is probably the most profound interview I have ever heard. Every single sentence holds truth and value, with so many revelations spoken beautifully. Thank you to both doctors. To all who have chronic pain I'd say that you're past the largest hurdle if you are here, and send you strength and support in your journey.

Salli Castillo

1y↑5

Thank you....these Dr's. are so right everything they say are so right on .

Marieta McCune

33w↑1

Completely agree! ❤

Galactic warrior

31w

Lets gooo!!!!!

Galactic warrior

31w

What hurdle? There is nothing wrong with our body. We Re already healed

Leah Cassorla

39w↑164

I was in extreme and chronic pain, have autoimmunes, etc., and was sleeping whenever not forced to do something else (all while getting myself through graduate school). My healing began when I left my emotionally abusive husband. I have done the work these men are talking about and continue to do so. These docs and Gabor Mate (mentioned in this vid) have helped me become the best me I’ve been so far! As a 50 year old, I’m beginning to live my life, let go of my trauma, heal my CPTSD, and pursue a meaningful career.

punya shloka

37w↑9

Congratulations 🎉 👏.

Reem M

37w↑7

So good to hear ☺️ I hope you make a video about it I would watch it 🎉

Joanne Wilson

36w↑2

Congrats, you story sounds similar to mine less the graduate school. I was working on obtaining my Associates Degree but had to drop out. Stay strong and blessings to you!

Brandy harris

36w

Your generosity towards my infection is incomparable. You assured me of getting healed and surprisingly after 11days of taking the medication I was tested Negative. Thanks Dr OBALAR Herbal Cure I will keep letting the world know about your YouTube channel .

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Bonnie Rapp

40w↑139

My parents were alcoholic’s, my father got a brain tumor and my mother committed suicide the day he died at the age of 17 in 1979. I witnessed it all. I raised my siblings ….I can’t believe to tell you how hard my life is with fibromyalgia, chronic pain, tingling in my hands, etc. in 1979 you were on your own so I had no choice but to hold in my sadness, feelings, emotions. Medical community at a lose. I have had every test,. This interview helped me so… much! Thank you.

Sharyn Main

38w↑13

I am glad that you had some empowerment from listening to this chat. It sounds as if you had much more challenges that were not for you to carry and I hope for you that something in your days holds some joy or small solace. These enlightened professionals are certainly highly emotionally intelligent … so they help all of us.

Cindy Spiess

37w↑10

wow , glad you found this to be able to overcome the traumatic experiences that happened ... 👍 ❤️

Zindagi ki seekh

36w↑3

How you get cured

emma

36w↑9

Yes, it's called Somotoform disorder. It's where emotional distress turns into physical pain.

steph.mindset.mentor

36w↑1

I hope you heal soon 😢❤

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Tammy’s Fitness Club Endometriosis & fitness coach

42w↑61

OMG being someone who has suffered of endometriosis chronic pain and had practice this. I can’t thank you enough for sharing this. I teach females with endo and people with chronic pain to reframe their pain and I have struggle to feel support from the medical system. Seems like all doctors just want to give pills and not spending the time educating. This message and the work you guys are doing is so important 👏🏽 thank you so much 🙏🏽

Jill

37w↑4

Yes and some drs give medicine and don't really ask questions like what do you eat and what's you're lifestyle etc some do and some don't ask at all. Some don't ask how much do you sleep and some don't suggest dietary changes and vitamins that may help.

Roberta Lust

37w↑3

So when I have a severe migraine with aura…or joint problems because of an autoimmune disorder.

I should just think of it differently
That’s it?

Tammy’s Fitness Club Endometriosis & fitness coach

37w↑4

@Roberta Lust it’s not about thinking differently. It’s about trying to find the root cause or triggers of your migraine. Are you tracking your sugar content? For example. Have you done an internal review of food / migraine relationship? For example; One of my clients gets a migraine if she consumes chocolate or wine. So those are things that she now completely removed from her diet. It doesn’t mean that she never gets a migraine now (because migraines can be set off hormonally too), but she has reduced the set of migraines by a significant amount. Endometriosis is also an immune disorder, I improved mine (and I said improved because there is no cure for endo) many of my symptoms by following and maintaining a anti-inflammatory diet.

Grow into your Manifestation

33w

Omg i suffer from endometriosis and adenomyosis. This is the comment i have been looking for

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Collcolls

44w↑26

Im my frail 83 year old moms carer, i have chronic debilitating knee pain, this podcast was incredible!! Im going to listen to it and absorb this information and hopefully help myself lessen this pain by acknowledging the emotional triggers. Thank you so much for this interview

The Abigail Official 🕊

41w↑4

Epson salt baths and Palo Santo incense 🧘‍♂️🙏

Clare Smith

38w↑1

Byron Katie’s teaching are so helpful… your thoughts can make pain way worse

heythave

38w↑4

Your body is saying that caring for your mom is a toll for yourself and that is why your body is sending out that signal. But, you have no choice, right?

Blessedbloomingrose

37w↑5

You can change that mindset by developing a new mindset. I am grateful that I have an amazing able body to look after my mum. Be appreciative of each opportunity to add value to my mum's life. See looking after my mum a blessing that a whole host of children do not have. You do have a choice to start seeing life as opportunity to make a different in someone's life.

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Angela Mossucco

1y↑29

“The most important thing I do for my patients is to listen to them and to show them empathy.” Minute 1:16:08-10.❤
That is exactly the same as myself regarding my role as a teacher.
It is beautiful to hear that mirroring the concerns of a patient can help. It certainly helps students. How can physicians change medical schools to recognize trauma and to make trauma- informed medicine the norm?

Only 15% success in elective chronic pain back surgery compared to other cohorts (ie less traumatized people) for those with 3+ ACEs is profound.

Kanchana Krishnan Ayyar

1y↑88

Rengan you are so blessed to have this awakening and to bring this medical knowledge to the world. It have taught meditation for the last decade and have experienced an alleviation of chronic pain IBS and depression but have not been able to explain it to my students medically. Keep doing the good work!❤ each episode is brilliant

Morning star

1y↑4

Howard , Sarno,Dan these are the guys who pulled me out of the jaws of the chronic pain and they are the reason I am living my life normally again.
I have started my own channel Mission Pain free (TMS WARRIORS) to help my Indian fellows as in India there is almost 0 percent awareness of the mind body connection or TMS.

Jo Jo

31w↑1

Only 10 minutes into this and I’m in tears. This is making so much sense to me. I have chronic pain that is at times debilitating. Can’t wait to watch the rest of this video. Thank you

Camille

48w↑21

JAMES MICHAEL

33w↑1

I'm finally free from bad breath after having a horrible outbreak, and feel the same way you describe in your interview. Listening to you share your overcome experience gave me the glim hope I needed to hear. I am glad that there is people like you out there who just want to help other people who are struggling with the same issues. Your words gave me the courage I needed to hear today to know that it's okay. I can still be myself and now I'm enjoying my life the way I'm supposed to. It is a blessing I came across your YouTube channel #dremovon….🤗🤗😀

Angela Nelson

48w↑11

12:40 - 15:50 Wow. I am 34 and the story you made up closely resembles mine. Hearing this is the first time I have felt heard and not crazy. I can't even explain what that feels like after even my own family tells me to ' think positively' away serious traumas starting in my childhood. They went as far as to tell me I caused my pain because I put myself into bad life situations and they or society shouldn't have to 'pay' for my choices. Who the heck would intentionally do that? I'm pretty sure my 5 year old self did not ask for this, which is when my start of a very long list of trauma starts.
I've lived with severe debilitating pain labeled with endless diagnosis' for over 10 years, most of which some people don't believe is real. It started with headaches and ibs in high school after more and more trauma. Hopefully it ends with my last abusive relationship. He left our marriage of 7 years via text message... Now thankfully I found an angel on earth and am trying to figure myself and life out so I can live.
Thank you for this video. Moments like this literally keep me alive.

The Abigail Official 🕊

41w↑2

Stay balanced and grounded 🧘‍♂️🙏☯️

Janet McKegg

39w↑1

Just ask yr angel

Rose Stewart

1y↑14

Thank you so much for this interview. I have been studying MBS ever since and practicing the technique to heal everyday since listening to the podcast one month ago. I am feeling so much better in body and mind and understand myself and my symptoms so much better. I have already started sharing this with my hypnosis clients and I’m so grateful for the work that both of you do to bring this knowledge to us 🙌🏼

Sheeja Eldo

1y↑66

It was one of the most emotional interviews . Both being so genuine and clear in their explanation. Felt so touched by candid experiences of Dr Chatterjee and Dr Howard. Thank you for giving us the opportunity to see your podcasts regularly. 🙏

Nkosinathi Notototo

1y↑14

Best interview ever ❤sometimes you get tired of trying to explain this moving pain to doctors because their facial expressions say it all. And It cuts deeper than those who say "it's in your head."

Sadaf Saeed

38w↑7

The compassion of these doctors is really inspiring ❤

Kiwi Tupou

38w↑16

Thank you to you both for your empathy and compassion, it is very refreshing to hear two Drs, who reinforce the human aspect of pain. Chronic pain patient (and nurse) after multiple neck and thoracic fractures and fusions, who has seen many specialists over the years, I have walked away feeling so unheard and dismissed due to the attitude of these people, who can at times, re traumatise by forgetting the human aspect of those they are treating. ❤ thank you for your humanity

Brandy harris

36w

Lisbeth Bird

35w↑2

@KiwikimNZ have you seen the episode with Dr. Joe Dispenza? It would complement this one. Talking about meditation practices for healing...anything. But he's a chiropractor who healed himself of a devastating spinal injury, avoiding major surgery.

Kiwi Tupou

34w↑1

@Lisbeth Birdoh wow. Thank you ❤

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Tabitha Harnsberger

1y↑293

These men are phenomenal. If every MD were like this …. Trained like this …..our medical system would not be nearly as toxic as it is .. excellent interview and information .

Kairi Paul

1y↑3

I’m 😊😊 44:30 😊

Jess

1y↑13

Toxic is the right word to use for the US system per my experience.

Ritmo Latino

1y↑7

they are sales plp to the medication industry, exepst these 2

shagufta sheikh

1y↑3

Very informative video. Would say this information provided would help those suffering from RA/Osteo condition and operation of knees been suggested for as padding has worn out. Your comments would help tremendously. Thanks.

hew195050

49w↑6

If doctors were like this, there would not be people walking around in chronic pain.

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Vaneta Morrison

34w↑1

This makes so much sense. Feeling much better just listening to it. You've said what has been in my thoughts for years.
All good. ♥️
Thank you.

Lady-T

1y↑475

When Dr Schubiner was explaining the situation and pain of the hypothetical female patient, it sounded like my life story! Started off with a chronic cough as a child, migraines started in my mid teens, back pain by the time I was 16 that worsened over time, combined with agonising hip, leg and neck pain that would reduce me to tears just by walking by my early twenties, by my thirties add in severe acid reflux and top it all off with endometriosis. The only thing my doctor suggested was paracetamol.

I’m now 36 and after over 20 years of chronic debilitating pain, thousands of pounds spent on different treatments in desperation to find relief, I have recently reduced my pain by 80% in 2 months with TRE (trauma release exercises) and meditation (Joe Dispenza meditation) I haven’t had even a touch of acid reflux in weeks and my menstrual cycles are completely normal. I thought I’d never feel normal or go another day in my life without pain, I feel like sitting here and crying with gratitude!

Thank you Dr Chatterjee I love your videos, they’re always so helpful and inspiring. Keep doing what your doing, you’re amazing 😊

Amanda Carter

1y↑37

That is absolutely incredible. Thanks for sharing your story. I'm going to look into this fellow you mentioned Joe Dispenza

Kay Oss

1y↑29

That's amazing Lady T, how wonderful for you!
Keep going, I see no reason you can't be 100% from chronic pain. I think the key is creating a sense of safety in the nervous system, and for that we have to believe that we are safe, that we can be healed. There are brighter days ahead in your future!

Debbie Oliver

1y↑28

@Amanda Carter dr Joe's teachings saved my life...🙏💚

mumsthwd

1y↑18

When I heard that part it made me cry because I could relate to it in so many ways.

sandrac11

1y↑19

What trauma release exercises have helped?

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Shaheeda Dollie

32w

Thank you Dr Chatterjee for you wonderful podcast. You always have beautiful souls on it. This conversation resonated so much and thank you for sharing it to the world. Now for many years I have changed my lifestyle, personally, healthwise and the way of dealing with pain. Life is beautiful now, full of joy etc. Still stumbling from time to time, but that is ok😊.

Monica Allmond

48w↑9

So informative! We must "rethink" the whole healthcare system! Thanks for being honest about what needs to change in your profession

Nicole Marie B.

1y↑36

Pelvic pain, interstitial cystitis, pudendal neuralgia, etc. They all started with a physical trigger but the mind body issues are what made it chronic. I’ve been through everything with doctors. Mind-body work put me into about 80% remission. Dealing with trauma wasn’t really what did it for me, for me it was more exposure therapy. Daily exercise and exposing my body to things that would normally hurt but doing it in a slow safe manner. Also, teaching my brain not to catastrophize pain or fear that it is something serious. It’s very difficult to notice pain and not be stressed or upset by it, it’s sort of a skill to just acknowledge its existence and move on with your life. You’re not necessarily ignoring it, you’re accepting it. Eventually, the brain will start to rewire and your nerves will follow.

Tom Sale

1y↑1

Ime exercising as able two years though still got the pain fybro or myofacial pain just labels always say diffarant great news how long did it take had on 25 years from fall alwys been perfectionist IC in certain areas hypomobility?

Tom Sale

@St I have you got same symptoms

Birgitte Broesbøl-Jensen

Thank you Nicole. I for the time being are reading Schubingers book ‘Unlearn your pain’ and will try to follow his method - both dealing with trauma and physical training and then we shall see what happens 😊

Birgitte Broesbøl-Jensen

@Tom Sale 25 years that’s awful- what a waste of one’s life. I am so sorry for you. I am not sure that we have gotten the same symptoms. I have this neuropathy pain - thingling burning on my skin all over the lower part of my body. My skin is hyper sensitive and having clothes and shoes on is a problem - and psychical exercise makes it worse. In addition I’ve got very tense muscles - in the pelvic area all the time but also now and then in my abdomen, diafragma, all the beast area. This started to get worse 3 to 4 months ago. I get medicine- it helps to some extent…

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Carol Spencer

1y↑7

Good evening to you both.
Thankyou for your candid shared conversation.
After nearly two decades of mental health addiction nursing. I find myself feeling most frustrated with our health/medical ethic.
We clearly DONT work with the human, so to speak.
Almost shameful considering all we know.
Thankyou for your shared work.
💜

Priscilla Diaz

36w↑1

I struggled for 18 years and now at 26 I finally have my diagnosis! I too struggle every day but I do my best to live my life as if I have nothing, just with more breaks than before 😅. We got this!

Janet Ryan

1y↑187

What Howard said from min 15:15 - 15:48 hit my heart and made me realize what my life long experience with pain is rooted in...his validation brought tears to my eyes. ❤️

Tammy Zanders

1y↑9

Very powerful what he said

James Breeding - Quit P*rn Coach

1y↑14

He's shows empathy which is sorely needed.

sharon Lujan

1y↑7

He really is wonderful isn't he/!!!

v v

47w↑1

Lame

Melissa Richter

38w↑2

What a excellent interview with so much helpful information.

God’s Child

1y↑20

Thank you Doctor for explaining this and not just trying to medicate. Once I learned about Narcissistic Abuse and the Toxic People in my life who displayed such traits, I instantly started to heal from Emotional Trauma. My Mind Cleared, My Heart Opened and My Immune System rose in Levels I couldn’t understand. It’s because of Videos like this My Whole Life has Changed. #WhatPain #IFeelAmazing

John Klahn

1y↑1

Thank you for sharing your story @sharonewilson9743. Bless this healing!

peace and love

1y↑1

You learned they exist (my parents) but how do you heal? Specially if you live and work with them?

Mauricio J.

36w↑1

I have spondylitis. When doctors see my CT scans they can't believe I am not in a wheelchair or painkillers. I had severe pain. I did 3 Ayahuasca ceremonies and a divorce from a toxic narcissist. I have zero pain now.

Unlocking Your Potential to Heal

1y↑17

Hello, I loved this talk. My daughter is 13 and diagnosed with Ehlers Danlos syndrome at age 7. She's had chronic pain her whole life, but never taken pain meds. She refuses but uses distraction techniques to help deal with the pain instead. I'm a nurse and 100% believe in mindfulness based stress reduction to reduce chronic pain. I've been studying it for over 5 years now. This really hit home when he talked about people with diagnoses that they have been told are incurable. My daughter has just learned to deal with the everyday pain, but retaining the brain to believe we can be pain free by assessing further instead of just feeling like there's no hope was eye opening. I looked for the app for healthcare providers, but probably not available in the United States? Thank you for this! I'll look for the book.

Alice Unawai

51w↑1

I missed his name is it Dr Chattergee his contact ?to get his books etc can u put on your website ? This is an excellent interview. Thanks 👍

susan fudge

51w↑3

You should read of Milton Erickson. He was confined to his bed as a child and was self taught on hypnosis. Became a renowned therapist who used hypnotherapy.

Bruce Thomson

52w↑2

Thank you both. My journey applying this to my minor back pain has begun. As you say, just knowing the idea, has already made an unmistakable reduction of the ache, as well as a new happiness of anticipating improvement. Not just the pain, but possibly other things - lifestyle baseline energy, anxiety about memory, everything is now a candidate. =)

Linda E Lawson

40w↑12

I've lived for fifty years with MEFM (except for 6 years I managed to achieve complete remission from chronic fatigue and near-complete remission of fibromyalgia pain.) How I wish I'd heard about this decades before! For everyone who has ever been told "It's all in your head" with agonizing pain, this is the video to watch. These are two wondrously compassionate and wise doctors who have experienced what they speak of. Wonderful! Gives me SO much hope that I can override a lifetime hypervigilance. (I was born 3 months early because of a violent car accident that totaled our car, which is common with fibro - violent births, or early childhood trauma.) We learn to be hypervigilant from birth, or babyhood - which later with tons of inescapable stress can turn into fibromyalgia or other chronic illnesses. 13 car accidents added to that, as did childhood bullying (though thankfully I was taught to fight back.) I have SO much more hope - I can and will overcome this again! And now I have wondrous new pieces of the puzzle to help me heal.

John Mitchell

34w

I sure hope you gave up driving 🤯

Sylvia Sigurdson

1y↑27

I loved how you said, 'Pain is not the problem, it's the solution.' I've had chronic pain for 30 years from lupus, a 'structural' issue. But I wonder if my emotional pain from childhood is actually the driving force behind 'the immense power of the brain' and lupus was created as a safe way for my body to meet its emotional and physical needs. Perhaps all of the fears I'm carrying are fuelling the brain to trigger not only the pain response but the disease itself.

Universal Love

1y↑3

Good point, keep paying attention ☯️🧘‍♂️🙏

D D

1y↑3

Hi, Sylvia. You may want to research a natural supplement, called "Moducare". It has helped many people with Auto-Immune Disorders
(including Lupus), to go into remission.

jk co

1y↑2

And moringa supplements for inflammation. What are your symptoms with lupus? Do you have joint pain?

DeeCee

1y↑3

Ha its the lupus. .like to see these guys deal with chronic pain...... other words theyre like
.pain is good. Yeah ok. Till one offs themselves.

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San.magic007

1y↑478

Once, I was told by a ‘’health professional’’ that my back can not completely heal because ‘’it’s not a 20 years old back’’. I was about 45 years old at that time and it was really disheartening to hear that. However, I did get better! Thank you so much for speaking about this topic as it’s very important! 🙌

Dorothy Masey

1y↑25

I am a doctor in Obstetrics and study Psychology when I came to live in the UK. I have found that children copy the symptoms of their parents !!
Thank you this is a great talk !!

Beth Miller

1y↑17

@Dorothy Masey So do pets!

Kathleen M.

1y↑12

@Dorothy Masey Yes!!! We believe it's normal for us to inherit it, and we copy the symptoms that create it, therefore, willing it into our lives because it's familiar & "normal." Been there and done that with spinal stenosis and degenerative disc dis-ease. Working on it now with Dr. Schubiner's "Unlearn Your Pain" workbook.

Kathleen M.

1y↑8

@Beth Miller Absolutely true! It's like they absorb it readily into their bodies as they love us so unconditionally! 🐾🐾❤

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C. Brownell

1y↑11

I am so pleased that what is being said here, is finally being recognised. How daughters often carry the trauma and pain created by their father's behaviour, for example. Fibromyalgia for example.

Sharyn Main

38w

This hits home for myself with a previous friend over 20 years and I always felt her family role was as a scapegoat and caretaker for her family. This is not judging her fibromyalgia, as I had had two medical life threatening issues and wanted to be a support for her. And yes, as females ( this is not a competition theory, or a blame one) it is just a true fact, also along with the children who are under adults care, are also drawn into these harmful and corrosive situation. We all need to look after ourselves first so we can then help others.

lifehack

1y↑4

It really resonated with me when he said "Don't do something just to do something cuz it can make it worse". There was a time when I went on a hospital spree after I got diagnosed with this medical condition. And every time I got something done to my body, I had several brand new symptoms come up, which added insult to my injury. If only those doctors took me as a unique individual rather than as one of the statistics, I wouldn't have had hard time like that. Now that I've learned my lesson, I can cope better with my condition.

Shhh Eeesh

1y↑14

Thank you both for this conversation and shining some light on “illness n Dis-ease”!! 😊 We have to strive to get to the ❤ of the “matters”… Psycho-somatic the mind body n even spirit connection is real… my granny was a whol-istic healer who taught me this years ago… they’re All Connected; if one is off, the others are too… striking a balance between the 3 is essential… Know Thyself, Understand Thyself n Heal Thyself n be Kind to Thyself and begin to Forgive Thyself n Others ❤and never be afraid to ask for Help!… it’s an Inside Job! 🦋

Adrian Bratescu

42w↑1

Ancient wisdom your granny was teaching you!

Leah Emery

42w↑3

I am so thankful to you for providing this information, this podcast and others have been life changing for me 🙏🏼

Meghan South

1y↑10

It’s so powerful to shift the perspective from just treating a symptom to being more aware of your life circumstances. Thank you so much for sharing this

Jo Leverett

1y↑87

I never comment but have to say, thank you Dr Chatterjee. Hopefully you know how much what you do helps people like me who couldn't see a way forward. I've only just understood at 55, how narcissistic my parents were, because I just disassociate mentally, but in adult life that doesn't help! Thank you again for what you do! x

Miss P

42w↑6

This podcast is so amazing. Dr Rangan, you are doing amazing job in these interviews.

Vanessa Stephen

1y↑9

What you have shared here is exactly what I have been searching for. It bought me to tears to finally feel heard. As someone who suffers from intermittent unbearable pain as a result of life events resulting in fibromyalgia. Gives me more confidence to continue to do the work I need to do to free myself of it. With heartfelt gratitude. Thank you Dr. Rangan Chatterjee and Dr. Howard Schubiner.

Dr soha saba

1y↑2

I don’t know about you but I have FM/ME severe for 19 years. Teams due to PTSD & stress also genetics. I have tried everything to cure myself. Conclusion is that I have to live alone in a deserted island. ! One day I might just do that

Donna Lawrence

43w↑1

I hear you. I had 4 operations on my ankle being used as a guinea pig. I have neauropathy ,reflex sympathetic dystrophy , osteoarthritis in right ankle ,left knee and back has it too with moderate degenerative disc disease ( 2005 it was moderate) . I have been in pain longer than I am alive. It does help to listen to hypnosis to sleep and for pain. Reflexology , acupressure , chiropractor and acupuncture helped , but I can not afford that . I hope you are doing well

Maria Harris

1y↑3

Thank you!!! This was an excellent conversation full of wonderful information! My Mom has had chronic pain for over 10 years and I’m sharing this with her and my Dad! ❤❤❤

Karen Dallas

36w↑1

Great podcast! I'm another physician and I do work in lifestyle medicine and counseling around chronic pain as well! Couple of thoughts here...
Number one, What about Reynauds phenomenon? I would love to hear him discuss this one!
Number two, think about how this pain is optional. Reaction occurs in little kids... If they fall down and get one reaction or another from their caregiver they have a totally different experience! I think this is such a beautiful example.

Brandy harris

36w

Marina Belan

33w

Thank you so much for this interview. It helped calm me down and gave me clarity and hope ❤

Hay SoundsWrite

1y↑20

Loved this podcast!! Thank you for the goodness you are both bringing to the world, thru daily work you do and social media. We need all to embark on embracing change: health, education, businesses, etc etc
Very much appreciated!

Vg

1y↑6

13:57 Wow! The doctor essentially described my life experience - from critical narcissist alcoholic father to being targeted by my covert narcissist ex-husband of 17yrs who I eventually had the sense to leave but had to start life again at age 36 with nothing but my 2 cats. Yes depression, anxiety, and c-PTSD for the last 20 years have followed and continue due to being expected to be carer for my stroke affected father and empath codependent mother. It's exhausting, but at least now I can mitigate the symptoms and do self care when needed. I'm a yes to headaches, scoliosis, neck and back pain, joint pain, and fatigue. I'm floored hearing a doctor talk about this in this way. Thank you!

G P

43w↑5

My absolute favourite episode so far (been listening since the beginning). Had Long Covid for 17 months (just diagnosed as ME/CFS as unable to work and no one takes LC seriously!) Very, very real and debilitating symptoms....but the condition IS fluctuating, which gives me hope I can work on the neural pathways and explains the flare ups if the brain goes down and old pathway all of a sudden! (Like the man/vietnam veteran story)
Will be buying the book!! (Unlearn your pain)

Denise Curran

1y↑7

Excellent discussion on chronic pain and mind connection! Ordered recommended books. Meeting people where they are at is a great starting point. This is real compassionate tx. Loved it!

Jeanette

1y↑9

What a useful conversation. Very helpful indeed. I do have autoimmune immune arthritis (psoriatic). It was definitely triggered by stress. I've had all sorts of rheumatic meds, including biological. I realised pretty quickly that for me personally, these meds (apart from IM steroids) made things significantly worse. Side effects were frankly worse than the disease. Interestingly what I've realised recently is that I can make things better myself. This has come about mostly from my inability to access care from the NHS during the recent debacle. Apologies if that offends, but it's my view on the whole situation. In a sense I was forced into kicking my own butt. I do have significant damage from the arthritis, but I managed it with exercise and a kind of F you attitude in the beginning. The rage has dissipated now. My focus now is getting fit for a long distance walk and wild camp in Scotland. I'm 61. I do feel huge compassion for all those in pain. It totally stinks. The mind really is a magical thing though. Even with structural damage the way one thinks can lessen the pain, in my experience. Took me decades to understand that!

Peace to all.

Zena

1y↑1

@jeanette my story is the same as yours. I have Psoriatic arthritis and fibromyalgia triggered by stress. I take the meds and reliant on them as fearful if I don't take them, despite bring only mild relief, I won't be able to manage the pain. I try alternatives treatments but nothing works. I know my brain directs me to the pain, and it's now a default but how to break this I'm struggling with. I'd be interested to learn how you manage.

Jeanette

1y↑3

@Zena Hello there. Sorry to hear you are in pain. I absolutely feel for you. At times I do still have pain. I can tell you what works best for me. Keep in mind we are all different, so what works for me may not for you. It's a long road of discovery! Firstly, changing my diet has had the biggest impact. I was essentially eating crap. I've given up sugar and highly processed foods. Initially I put myself on a really strong elimination diet, cutting out all grains, sugar etc and sticking only to meat. Grains and sugar are a huge problem for me. As soon as I eat them I get gut issues, chronic cough and joint pain. I've tried several times to reintroduce them And I suffer. It is hard to stick to, not because its an unpleasant diet, I mostly struggle ATM because of the cost. Meat, eggs, butter and fish are hugely expensive! That said, I feel so unwell when I revert back to cheaper, highly processed foods it's just not worth it. I have to cut back on other things instead. For the time being I'm sticking to animal foods, but will incorporate some seasonal fruit and veg from my allotment (small amounts). I think each person has to find what works for them. That said, everyone would benefit from cutting back on sugar and processed rubbish I think.

It's not a quick fix, but better (for me at least) than toxic meds. I wish you very good health ASAP.

Robert Michael Gibbons

43w↑4

I really get it and am so grateful to you both for giving me hope and a pathway to pain freedom.. Over the past year I have spent so much time and money having epidurals and decompression therapy without any significant relief. I now don't talk about having back pain but instead brain pain which I am starting to unlearn.

The Abigail Official 🕊

41w↑1

Stay close to God ☯️ 🧘‍♂️🙏

Tammy

1y↑254

OMG... What the Doctor said about a young lady going through a lot of drama and stress in her life and having chronic pain with no real physical injuries 😟. This really hit home for me. I've been through a hell of a lot. Childhood drama, relationship abuse, military ptsd. I feel like my whole body is shutting down at age 47. I eat healthy and exercise, but the pain is becoming dehabilitating. It's everywhere in my back, neck, knees, ankles. Every part that has a joint. 😭and no one listens to me because I look healthy on the outside.

Cenot4ph

1y↑30

Check out the carnivore diet and what it has done for people with joint pains, I'm not at all sure it's related and if you've already considered it.
At any rate, I hope you get through it

Tammy

1y↑6

@Cenot4ph Thank you. I will try that.

Sylwia P

1y↑6

Same here😢

Chris Namaste

1y↑17

@Bee, yes, i so relate... now, in my case, it does show, bc of the exhaustion. I know where my trauma 'lays', the relationship is so hard, and i've found an idea to never talk to her again 'alone', always be sure that at least one person is present, so no harm can be done... it's said easily, by some, to just not botther etc

tnt

1y↑22

yoga is the best for ptsd. read the book " the body keeps the score"

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Khadija

1y↑2

Really enjoyed this talk… a few weeks ago I was going abroad and had a few issues going on that were making me nervous about going. Two weeks before flying my neck and shoulders tightened up like never before. I told myself I wasn’t worrying about anything but on a deep level I probably was. I’ve come back but still have the problem however this talk has enlightened me and I’m sure the tightness will subside. Thanks 😊

T C

32w

This is incredible, so so helpful and informative. I'll rewatch again and again, I'll be telling everyone I know to watch this too. You're both doing such valuable work. Thank you.

Prosper

36w

Humbly appreciate your kind gesture Dr odija ,you have always able to help with any health issues,the herpes virus was something the world thought has no cure but I’m happy to say today that I’ve been cured and I’m glad to have you as my doctor 🌱🌱,

Debbie Smith

1y↑8

Wow. This interview has given me more insight into my past history with chronic pain than anything I have ever seen or heard in 40 years. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
Slowly, I came to some of these realizations on my own. The first step forward was refusing to label myself as disabled, stopped seeing doctors and throwing out all my meds. They were not helping, they actually made things worse. Of course this meant losing my job and having to become self-employed. Unfortunately, our "health care" system is more focused on problems and labels than finding solutions.
Everything you have said rings true, I wish I had heard this years ago. There is value in feeling understood. 😊

Janet McKegg

39w

And the paperwork to save their butt

Alex Woolley

52w↑34

The back story resonates with me greatly, I had a similar injury and ended up with chronic, daily back pain that became so severe I often thought about suicide, it went on for over 2 years. I then, thankfully stumbled across research similar to this and started to dive in to the subject. I then started moving my back more and gradually started to over ride the routine my nervous system had taken on. I'm now completely pain free again, it took almost a full 12 months to reset and recallibrate the central nervous system but it worked, I will never forget my journey for a s long as I live.

Donna Lawrence

43w↑2

Thank you for your comment. I am listening. I know that pain when you don't want to live anymore or be around anyone ( me). I have pain for 33 years. I will be 59. It was the worst in 1999and 2000. If my Mom wasn't alive then , I might not be here. I don't know if I could have done it. I was sick of not being able to do Anything. Reflexology, acupressure , chiropractor and a couple other things saved me. My then new chiropractor saved me from an ankle replacement. ✌️

Patty

32w

What did u do exactly? Im 3 year chronic pain in my hand.. tried pt, ignoring it, working thru pain etc. Resting.. nothing worked

Alex Woolley

32w↑1

@Patty I completely changed my mindset, I realised I was worrying about it and subconsciously protecting the way I moved which was, in turn, sending messages to my brain to say I was damaged so therefore my brain sent MORE pain to make me protect the area more.
It's complicated but pain is NOT an accurate measure of tissue health, pain is a protector which is why you can have pain without injury.
If you look up Lorimer Mosely and Peter O'Sullivan on here, they're pain specialists and go into great details of what really goes on when we're in pain

Nibbatron

31w

May I ask what your injury was? I have a friend who has severe chronic back pain from a car accident, causing damage in their spine and hip (they might have to get spinal fusion in the future and they're also suicidal), and just want to get a better understanding of how much this reframing method could help those whose chronic pain's caused by severe structural issues.

Nibbatron

31w

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N V Clarke

1y↑80

I always say ‘get curious and develop relationship with your pain’ it’s there for a reason, it has a message. Trauma is a serious problem that always manifests in the body

NIMY

1y↑6

Wow

Noreen Jenny

1y↑5

Yes, it is! Thank you for bringing it up. 😊

Skippy

1y↑2

Yes! Even anxiety does this - it’s a very physical thing 👍

Elizabeth Rae

37w↑2

Thank you to both you gentlemen. This is one of the most sensible talks it is so relevant to everyone. Bless you both xx

Brandy harris

36w

Fabienne Kasbergen

1y↑2

Thank you so much for sharing and bringing the nuanced but very powerfull message of the relationship between pain, the brain en psychology🌞 keep up the good work and hopefully your therapies will be broadly accepted and practiced!
I've been having chronic neck and upper back and even just listening and incorporating a few concepts already helped me😊🌻

Mukesh Kumar

52w

What did you do?

Agnieszka Rybkiewicz

1y↑6

Thank you for this video. I can really relate to everything you've said there. I have suffered from a pain in my knees since I was 19 and now I am 32. The pain has made my life extremely difficult. I haven't been able to enjoy my life and do things that I love.

Mukesh Kumar

52w

How did it go away for you?

Delores Meeks

37w

I very much understand that.

rabbit

1y↑2

Oh gosh, during my 60s my back from poor posture, sports fun abuse and carrying my old dog up and down the stairs, I have lived in pain for years , I'm without pain meds and do gentle yoga and stretching.Terrific Dr.R, I like that you are going out on a limb more and more to bring such awareness, I think the issue collaboration with the medical providers. People need to take responsibility for doing research on their alignments.

Jill Decker

1y↑3

Thank God these gentlemen are speaking about chronic pain. Most physicians do not know how to deal with it , they just give you pills .When my ankle broke badly I was in a hostile work environment and now I see how that is connected to my chronic pain pain. Thank you both.

Delores Meeks

37w

Yes,Thanks be to God ❤

Teri Vaughn

1y↑167

As a chronic pain sufferer (73 yrs old) of migraine/headaches, Fibromyalgia and auto immune gastritis, I only had to listen to 5 minutes of this Podcast to know my answers for miserable daily PAIN lies in what you are about to tell us. I have had pill after pill after pill, CAT scans, And chiropractic help all to no avail. Thank you thank you thank you and say

SynapticTransmission

1y↑2

Smile, my friend. =8-)

Jojo Jacques

1y↑12

Nutrition, meditation and yoga! Please give it a go! God bless you!! ❤️🙏 sending you so much love and a big virtual hug!!! ❤️🙏

Tom Sale

1y↑7

You going to get better the fear has to leave the subconscious something ime fighting

R K

1y↑9

Please, check DNRS, Gupta, Dr Joe Dispenza work and testimonials. It's about the brain!

Amy Stein

Teri Vaughn what worked for you specifically?

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Gosia

35w

I'm very thankful to you both for the brilliant content in the podcast 🙏💌Greetings from Canada 🥰

Rho

35w

This is the most powerful talk I've ever listened to. Potentially life changing. I'm going to listen to this back to back until I've completely taken it all in.
Thank you both .

Art By Hazel🇨🇦

1y↑1

Evgeniya Crewe

1y↑1

I feel so inspired! I can really relate to this message! I suffered from migraines 20 years , nothing helped until I tried RTT hypnotherapy session -2 years on and I am pain free. 🎉

Kam

36w

Very useful for myself but also to understand the people I support. I'm no doctor but I work with homeless people and you encountered a lot of people struggling with chronic pain, mental health and substance misuse. Many times I thought that some of what they described to me sounded more coming from trauma and their experiences but doctors and other specialists only gave them meds.

hatchj100

1y↑58

Great interview and a lovely conversation. What a great man Howard is - it's filled me with hope as I suffer from Osteoarthritis in both shoulders and hips. I have been offered hip and shoulder replacements but this interview has inspired me to look on my pain with more compassion. Thank you Rangan and Howard.

JASODRA SINGH

1y↑2

This information is transformational. Right now I am dealing with back issues but one of my sibling is experiencing chronic pain due to a stroke he had approx 15 yrs ago. Is there any specific recommendation you can give to at least reduce the chronic pain he has has. He is bedridden.

the taurean

1y↑5

There are healing meditation audios on youtube...play those while sleeping. ..write and say affirmations that I am fit, I am healthy etc....design those affirmations to specifically address your issues and then say them 100s times a day in the back of your head...your subconscious eventually affects it....the battle is all in head first...yes it has physical symptoms. .things do get better...have faith

Jamie Abbott

1y↑7

Hello, I have got better with this approach. I was diagnosed with severe osteoathritis in my right hip and was offered a hip replacement, lucky for me I somehow found this work 3 years ago. I now run up mountains on a regular basis with no pain whatsoever.

Tom Sale

1y↑1

How do you play them.leave running all night

Believer

@Tom Sale yes, I fall asleep to them with ear buds.

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María de la Paz Hernández

51w↑1

Thank you for this, i'm a 25 years old woman, and i've had chronic pain for over a year now, it means a lot to know that you take us seriously and try to give us some answers

Fazeenah BeautyArt

45w

Hi how are you feeling now

Nassali Shakirah

48w↑2

Thank you both. This has been an eye opening experience and learning that is gonna help me and loved ones too. Be blessed abundantly 🙏.

Catherine Elaine Baxter

I am just loving this conversation. Thank you so much to the two very special intuitive doctors who have shone a different light on health and the brain. Dr Schubiner, you speak of the loss of smell and taste during Covid. I experienced that. But the interesting thing is that now I am dealing with Parosmia. I keep telling myself it will go eventually. The interesting thing is that my sense of smell normalised a while back, but literally for one day only. Thank you again Dr's Chatterjee and Schubiner for this powerful podcast. I love this dimension of thought. God bless you!
Elaine Baxter from South Africa

The On-Call Empath Podcast

1y↑6

One of the best doctors I’ve seen in my life. Changed my life forever. 🙏🏻

meyersonfire

40w

I cannot tell you how thankful I am for finding your site and work here. Thank you SO much for this!! I truly believed in my heart that my foot pain was related to my grief, and now that I'm acknowledging it this way, it is healing.

Georgie Oldfield

1y↑20

I am so pleased we were able to connect Howard with you Rangan because I know this will have a positive impact on so many people's lives who listen to it, as is clear from so many of the comments below. It's taken many years to reach the point where modern medicine is starting to recognise that we need to dispel the myths about chronic pain and, as Howard said, there is plenty of evidence to support this concept and to show the benefits of taking a mindbody approach, especially because it provides people with hope of recovery. Many thanks for your kind words about SIRPA and alongside Howard, we will continue to train health professionals in this concept/approach in order to provide even more people who can help those who need 121 support and guidance. Thank you again Rangan :-)

Kent Bassett // Mind-body Insight Coaching

1y↑2

Georgie and Sirpa are doing such amazing work — if you’re dealing with chronic pain, especially if you’re in the UK, I highly recommend you look them up! Thanks Georgie for helping make this conversation happen, it is helping so many people already! - Kent

Jamie Abbott

1y↑1

Georgie and Sirpa helped me recover from Back pain, hip pain, shoulder pain, rib pain, knee pain.

Cindysong21

39w↑2

I agree!! It’s crazy that no one is talking about this. I wish you guys could develop a full program available to the public. Or at least tips for working toward balance. Thank you for your work!!!

Brandy harris

36w

Liz Dashwood

1y↑1

Fascinating and informative interview. I know my chronic pain can be helped with Howard Schubiner approach.Doctors don’t give patience the time to listen to what the root of the pain is.We do our own resurch but would like support to follow through with retraining our brains when it comes to Pain Reprocessing Therapy. This definitely sounds like the way forward.
Thank you for your intresting programs.

Reflect

Finally, an honest discussion between MDs. For years and years, qualified NDs and hollistic healers have been screaming about emotional trauma and drugs, causing more harm than healing! We have reached a point where so many young people are falling ill, and allopathic medicine has not gotten the answers.

Sean Devine

1y↑3

Since I've been a massage therapist, I have seen the pain journey of many people and this talk has brought some more insight that I needed to help them. Thank you. We do Cranial Sacral Therapeutics where I work, which is in the energy healing realm of healing, and we see great results with most of the people we work on. In this practice, we are taught to listen to our client's energy, and with what you said here that people just being heard or validated can create a healing environment for the person maybe one of the biggest benefits of what we do. Even in my massage practice I have found that listening to my clients is my biggest asset. I feel some of the problems with our, medical model in the west is that they want to be able to measure everything and expect everyone to have the same results. When talking about neuro networking the variables are SO different among people that it is highly unlikely to get the same results in the same time periods and that is why energy work is highly dismissed. With the work that you are doing people are better equipping themselves to battle through their problems and seek out the type of TX that will suite them better than what their family doctor can offer them. I enjoyed this talk and I made sure to subscribe to your channel.

Sumatee Racha

This man is amazing. I need this knowledge.

Ka-Ren

1y↑2

I could feel the shifts in me in the first 15 minutes of this. Thank you for sharing. Live long and prosper 💚🧡

Ditto The G

1y↑85

One of the best conversations ive heard for quite a long time. I really enjoyed hearing Dr Schubiner & Catterjee talk about the power of our emotions. I struggle myself with chestpains when im going to bed, and they come from out of nowhere, where i suffer from great anxious thoughts of having a sudden heart attack as an healthy 28 year old. I've been to the doctors who can't find anything wrong with my heart, and that i'm healthy. Eventhough i still get the same pains once im trying to relax in bed. This gives me some further understanding in why it could be this way, having a lot in School, troublesome relationship with my mom, recently moved to a new city, trying to find new friends. Sometime it feels overwhelimg, which indeed could cause my body to try and signal to me that i need to relax and ground myself in a way. Crying while im writing this, but it feels amazing in the same time. Thanks for all of your work Rangan, I appriciate you a lot. (Have read all of your books btw)
Sorry for the long post about myself, but i felt it was nescessary to vent abit.

Take good care of yourself out there, selfcare is the best thing you can do in your life.

Best regards from Oscar in Sweden.

Tejaswini Zumbre

1y↑19

It wasn't a long post.. don't be sorry.. Thanks for sharing ur story.. Every experience is helpful to someone.. pls don't hesitate to share.. Wishing you quick recovery and complete healing... God bless.. 🙏🌸🌺🌺🌺🌸🌺

Julie Pastore

1y↑6

❤ ❤ 💙 💜

Babs k

1y↑6

💕🕯💐👋🤗🇺🇸
So…btw-means by the way! Ha I Just learned that🎉🙃

Mona Lisa

1y↑13

Try this: I had that at some point in my life and what I learned to do was talk to my heart ♥. I would place my hand across the left hand side of my chest where my heart resides and calm it by talking to it. I found that my heart reacted almost immediately and soothed. I cannot recall if I spoke words (love) to it or just thought them. It worked. 🤔

Lean Algo

1y↑8

I was in your situation few months back, cold water shower [10 - 20 degc ok], cold exposure, eat only twice, try fasting 1 day in a week or take 1 meal that day, along with vipassana meditation, playing shuttle or running to get sweating helps a lot. I suffer from narcissist abuse.

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Claude Lalonde

31w

Great! I had a daily migraine for 18 months and have been trough all the medical tests cited at the beginning. All gone after 2 months of talking in psychotherapy. Never had any headache more than once a year after that.

Vail's Tales

1y↑1

This video has been very helpful for me. I have CPTSD and chronic stomach issues that we couldn’t quite figure out. I had gotten myself stuck in the fear loop. I threw up constantly, and I was scared to eat because I would throw up, then I started throwing up even when I had no good in my system. It was brutal and I’ve lost so much weight and the unknown caused even more stress which has just been feeding the loop.

Libra

Be careful with stress, it's a killer.
I have this broblem to. 🌍

Carol Sundlin

35w↑2

This was the most interesting and awarding podcast that I have ever listened to. Thank you Doctors! I think that what I learned is going to be extremely helpful to me. I don't think it will be easy--it will be a long, hard process with a lot to work through. But, I am feeling very hopeful and confident that I can do it and begin to heal myself.

Galactic warrior

31w

How are you doing

Carol Sundlin

31w

@galacticwarrior4089 I am doing better, still have debilitating back pain, but practice mind control on a daily basis to try to lessen it. How are you doing?

Galactic warrior

31w

@Carol Sundlin do you believe its structural?

Carol Sundlin

31w

@galacticwarrior4089 I'm not sure what you mean by structural. That sounds rather passive, as if this thing is happening to me. I don't believe that. I think you can change your circumstances by taking actions. Maybe that is an optimistic approach but so be it!!

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Kallista Chayil BA MA

1y↑1

As an EFT (emotional freedom technique) practitioner I have witnessed countless healings. Some in my own life and also many in the lives of clients where issues (ie physical pain) were resolved & cleared with more ease and less limiting side effects than through traditional allopathic means. It is good when we can clear both the emotional issues and the physical issues that impede us so that we can move forward with healthier bodies, healthier relationships and more fulfilling lives.

Donna Lawrence

43w

I never heard of this. Interesting.

Faran Javed

41w↑4

Mind blowing, so many epiphanies I had while listening to this podcast. I believe my back pain will be cured for sure. Sciatica and disc bulge are just merely titles. Its all rooted in my past experiences and childhood trauma.

The Abigail Official 🕊

41w↑1

🧘‍♂️🙏☯️

Roberta Lust

37w↑1

Yeah but what if you experience chronic pain with no childhood trauma or past traumatic anything
It’s residual from past injuries that didn’t heal right..

hew195050

33w

@Roberta Lustnope, Never! doesn’t have to be childhood trauma but it usually is. Sometimes it’s an accident etc. But that said, the brain or mind determines whether you need to perpetuate that pain. Change the brain, change the pain.

Roberta Lust

33w

@hew195050 I have no childhood trauma..zero…
I had an accident that caused a head injury and now I have severe migraines..
So I just change my brain?
That statement doesn’t even mean anything..

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Bie Van Vlierden

1y↑9

I found the notion of pain being an emotion incredibly interesting. The cycle and the viciousness and negative spiralling of it. It's like an eye-opener. I'm an EFT and EMDR practitioner and I'm convinced that this notion, this approach to chronic pain will influence my work.
Thank you so much! Bie

Ela

1y↑1

Incredible well spoken podcast. Thank you doctors.

Edward Lyons

1y↑7

OMG, the first twenty minutes of this is a light bulb moment for me. Since about the age of 8, I've had chronic migraine headaches. I will be contacting my doctor to access my medical notes to identify exactly when the headaches started. I'm now aged 57. On 24 December 1973, my father broke my mother's jaw with a punch whilst they were out socially. As a result of this, I, as the oldest of four children (ages 7, 6, 3 and 2), two weeks before my eighth birthday, I had to sleep in the same bed as my father for a month. My mother couldn't be disturbed whilst sleeping for obvious reasons. Growing up, violence was always potentially a second away. As the oldest, perhaps, whilst quite resilient, perhaps I bore the most burden of this potential violence. My mother died a few years ago. She was going blind in one eye. The eye consultant said the injury was unique and was due to a historic event. Here is the horrendous line - the eye going blind was on the opposite side of her face to the punch. It must have been some punch. Alas, the bstard is still alive. Although my two brothers and sister have spoken to my father over the years since our parent's divorce in 1995, I haven't spoken to him in 30 years. Before the funeral, I told a relative I know still speaks to him that if he turned up at the funeral, I would have him arrested for disturbing the peace. I knew he would receive this message, and he knew I was serious. He didn't turn up to the funeral. Until watching this video, I thought my headaches would be with me till the end. May be they will disappear when the bstard dies.

Sunken Cube Octahedron

1y↑1

I'm so sorry, Edward. I hope you can forgive what seems unforgivable and have some peace...

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NVN

40w

Mid 2021 i decided to do the ultra in april 22 and started training which was going well, however close to end of 22 my back started acting up and i downgraded t. At that specific time I was going through stressful period , the reality is the stressful period hasnt ended its been ongoing even though Im not running Im still experiencing the most unbearable pain . Ive been to physio, chiropracter had a scan done and have been told the pain is due to degenerative disc, and believed the GP.. After this amazing session I have the tools to overcome all of the pain and Im sending this link to all my running mates who also believe the crap that these GPs tell us .
Thank you for the most fascinating discussion.

Tawnya Hodson

1y↑1

I’m not even all the way through this and this is incredible. 4 bulging discs. Cervical cord pressing on my spine. When I just heard the stats on ACE’s that just helped me make my decision if surgery got brought up. I knew childhood trauma and stress was the main reason for my pain, although I had a bad trampoline accident and I couldn’t move anything besides my eyeballs.

Universal Love

1y↑1

Daily meditation and prayer helps ☯️

Dorita Henriques

1y↑4

What an excellent video 🙏 The biggest problem as I see it is no one has time to listen to you, especially your GP. But he has time to write you a prescription because with it comes the commission, and the longer you're on it, the better. It's a very sad world, and I, for one, wish the real dance halls would come back, the old-fashioned dance, where could meet, have a laugh, a drink a dance the night away, or just sit and watch as I once had two 90 years old enjoying a barn dance for charity, just sitting and watching. At the end they came to me and asked, when are you doing the next one ?"

Julie Lazaroff

1y↑9

I love this man, Howard Schubiner. It is rare to listen to such a compassionate doctor. Thank you for this interview, Dr. Chatterjee.

Nai G

52w↑1

I am sooooo glad this conversation happened/is happening. Thank you ♾️ 😌

AIRA TERRAINA

33w

What an immensely valuable conversation. So grateful for some new insights and lots of heart and gentleness. Blessings to you both. Unique investigational lens.....yes, I completely agree. The power of the brain is definitely immense. I would love to meet and work with you Howard Schubiner. Perhaps we wil meet organically someday. I do believe I resonate. Gratitude to you both!

Elaine C

1y↑2

I’m still grieving the loss of my health, my job, my home, my relationships, my resources, my autonomy, my everything. I’ve tried and am still trying every possible healing protocol out there. Too many dark nights of the soul. Water damaged buildings with toxic mold and bacteria was eventually found out to be the culprit behind all my symptoms so please be careful everyone bc I don’t want anyone to go through decades of debilitating illness. If there is anyone out there looking to volunteer their time to help me with their psychic or healing gifts, please please reach out. I’m meant to help and contribute not be sick. I would do anything to heal and would be forever grateful. 🙏♥️

Mindset

Such an amazing video/podcast. I had spinal fusion surgery and also have chronic fatigue and a combination of autoimmune 😢. I visited after so many years of pain to a pain management clinic. I was just prescribed high dose medicine of Lyrica. I came back with not so good feedback. I felt I just have to accept that this is my life. Listening to this gave me hope. Thank you so much Dr. Chatterjee and amazing knowledge of Dr. Schubiner.

Holly Price

1y↑4

I think it’s incredibly important this discussion and I’m board 95% but I caution you - lab tests don’t diagnose all illnesses for example after being told everything was in my head for 20years I was finally diagnosed with Elhers danlos, disautonomia (which I know can be psychologically affected by emotional stress) and I also have MCAS (which the uk won’t diagnose as they won’t accept it exists) - cleaning my diet, doing strength exercises- taking very high strength vit D and B12 mushrooms and antihistamines and NAC and montelukast keeps my symptoms including most of my pain under check - ups can advocate meditation enough also - however if I change this routine I’m straight back where I was - I’m an advanced nurse so I understand what we do and do not test for - I also understand the massive lack of diagnosis of these so called “rare conditions” because of lack of knowledge and also the fact that your inflammatory markers do not go up during these flare ups

Keep having these conversations I love that we are because I finally feel that there are people who care out there 🙏🏽💜 God bless you both

Katja Olsen

People with Ehlers Danlos have also gotten rid of all or most of their pain from this work :) So have people with RA and MS to name a few. Michelle Wiegers is a mind body coach in this field with EDS, and she is now pain free and free of subluxations as well. So is a lot of other EDS patients I've come across. You never know how great a percentage of your pain is structural vs neuroplastic, so the work is worth doing for people no matter the diagnosis really. Of course one should get checked first, because you don't want to miss a severe neurological disorder, cancer, metabolism disorders etc. But once that is done, as I see it, there is really nothing to lose.

Noreen Jenny

1y↑14

This conversation resonated so much, totally! It is much needed topic to be talked about especially now. We need to listen and wake up to a better living life. I am grateful and thankful to you both. Its a game changer! Thank you. 🙏❤️🙏❤️

KAW

37w

It's so refreshing and humanizing to watch doctors speak about their frustrations with the medical system. I had a doctor tell me my disks were degenerating, but he didn't ask me what I was sleeping on, it turns out I needed a new bed and now I don't suffer from back pain. The powerful pain killers that doc prescribed me are still sitting in my safe. I had a doctor talk to me for 5 minutes and diagnose me with depression but my mom had passed away and just hadn't had the time to greive yet. I recently got the diagnosis of pre hypertension but wasn't asked a single time if I was open to yoga or breathing exercises. I just want the healthcare system to redefine treatment and healing.

Brandy harris

36w

Miriam Ramirez

48w↑1

Wow! This very good information. I had MRI and you're describing some things I recently experienced. I had hip pain/back come on suddenly without any injury. This is very helpful.

Mark Muro

46w

Try microdosing shrooms, works well for me

Ann

33w

I was told I have fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue for eight years after having my corneal transplant surgery. Have been to many doctors and natural doctors. Right now I’m trying Neurofeedback. Hopefully it will work❤️

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