Bobby briefly joined Snake River Conspiracy for a while, and Jay formed his own independent record label, D1 Music, with his father. In 2004, Orgy's third album, "Punk Statik Paranoia," was released under D1, but with little to no radio play or recognition from the mainstream music media.
Ryan and Amir have also started a side project known as Julien-K, with a much more electronic focus, and have released a song featuring the vocals of Chester Bennington of Linkin Park on the recent Underworld Evolution soundtrack. They have since formed the project Dead By Sunrise with Bennington. Amir Derakh was immortalised in the Coal Chamber song Amir of the Desert. He produced their debut album. Jay Gordon appeared on the follow up "Chamber Music".
When asked for an Orgy update in late July 2008, Shuck informed fans that Orgy's return is still underway but their priority is getting the much delayed Julien-K album released. During a video interview at the annual Californian NAMM 2009 convention, Derakh mentioned a 2010 Orgy reunion.
On March 30, 2010, through a video to his Julien-K, Dead By Sunrise, and Orgy followers, Shuck informed that there are plans for a tour in 2010. On October 25, 2010, Ryan Shuck and Amir Derakh informed on the Julien-K blog that "As of Oct. 26th we will no longer be part of Orgy. Jay will continue making music without the original members. On October 30, 2010, Jay Gordon released a statement via his official Facebook profile stating that he still owns the Orgy name and wants to continue forth creating new material for the band. Jay wrote that all previous members of the band were too busy with numerous side-projects to continue with the original band.
On November 7, 2011, Blabbermouth.net published a news story detailing the bitter feud between vocalist Gordon and guitarists Shuck and Derakh that has spiraled out of control after Gordon revealing his plans to assemble a band of musicians and begin touring under the name Orgy.
On February 3, 2012, it was announced that Orgy would embark on a five-week run titled the Bad Blood Tour. The new lineup features members of Deadsy, Snot, and Run Run Run. Vocalist Jay Gordon is the only original member of Orgy appearing on this tour; the support acts are the Texas-based One-Eyed Doll Cleveland-based industrial metal band Ventana and Faultline from Richmond, Virginia. The band has reportedly been in the studio in recent weeks recording new material, including a collaboration with Skrillex. This was confirmed after they cancelled the last five shows of their tour.
On August 4, 2012, Orgy linked to a 30 second demo of a new song, "Grime of the Century" via their Twitter and Facebook page.
In 2013, Orgy embarked on the Wide Awake and Dead Tour with Vampires Everywhere! and Davey Suicide.
All the Same
Orgy Lyrics
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you think it's all the same
but i want you to believe
i could be so like you
by now you've figured out that i want you
educated cause it's so like you, you
i could be something like you
because it's all the same
watch you kill for me, ohh
everytime i want to end everyday
i will be so like you
hitting on the helpless
smoking with the infants
cause it's just like you, you
because it's all the same
i could be something like you
because it's all the same
watch you kill for me
so hidden in the picture
warping the world around me
they've been insisting there's a difference between us
so hidden in the picture
warping the world around me
they've been insisting there's a difference between us
no, no, no, no, no, no
don't listen turn around
people might just see you now
make yourself a part of me
a part of me to let you go
because it's all the same
i could be something like you
because it's all the same
watch you kill for me
so hidden in the picture
warping the world around me
they've been insisting there's a difference between us
so hidden in the picture
warping the world around me
they've been insisting there's a difference between us
so hidden in the picture
warping the world around me
they've been insisting there's a difference between you and me
so hidden in the picture
warping the world around me
they've been insisting there's a difference between us.
In the song "All the Same" by Orgy, the singer is reflecting on how they have tried to blend in with society but deep down they still feel like an outsider. The opening lines with the repetition of "no" suggest a resistance to conformity. The singer then tells their audience to believe that they could be like them, emphasizing their desire to fit in. The line "watch you kill for me" suggests that this desire to fit in may lead to the singer becoming complicit in violence, perhaps a commentary on the dangerous ways in which conformity can manifest.
The chorus repeats "because it's all the same, I could be something like you" implying that the singer has been attempting to mimic those around them. The verses following the chorus describe the ways in which the singer feels they are like those around them, such as hitting on the helpless and smoking with infants. These actions, although abhorrent, are presented as being just like the behavior of the people around the singer. The final verse suggests that society is warping the singer's perception of themselves and their place in the world. The repeated line "so hidden in the picture, warping the world around me, they've been insisting there's a difference between us" implies that the differences between the singer and society are not real or significant, but rather have been created and enforced by those in power.
Line by Line Meaning
you think it's all the same
You believe that everything is the same
but i want you to believe
However, I want you to believe something different
i could be so like you
I could become just like you
by now you've figured out that i want you
You might have realized by now that I desire you
educated cause it's so like you, you
I need to be educated to be more like you
because it's all the same
Because everything is similar
watch you kill for me, ohh
I want to see you kill for me
everytime i want to end everyday
Whenever I want to escape my daily routine
hitting on the helpless
Taking advantage of the vulnerable
smoking with the infants
Smoking around the infants
cause it's just like you, you
Because that's what you do as well
so hidden in the picture
Hiding in the image
warping the world around me
Distorting the world surrounding me
they've been insisting there's a difference between us
Other people claim there is a distinction between us
don't listen turn around
Don't listen to them; turn around
people might just see you now
Others might catch sight of you
make yourself a part of me
Incorporate yourself within me
a part of me to let you go
A part of me so that I can release you
they've been insisting there's a difference between you and me
Others are enforcing the idea that there is a discrepancy between you and me
Lyrics © Warner Chappell Music, Inc.
Written by: JAY GORDON, AMIR DERAKH, BOBBY HEWITT, RYAN SHUCK, PAIGE HALEY
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EddieHaskell97
on Suck it
The lyric is "painted face," as in "Your painted face left an impression on my pillow." The singer is telling the "Suicide Girl" that she wears a considerable amount of makeup and some has come off on the bedding.