Bobby briefly joined Snake River Conspiracy for a while, and Jay formed his own independent record label, D1 Music, with his father. In 2004, Orgy's third album, "Punk Statik Paranoia," was released under D1, but with little to no radio play or recognition from the mainstream music media.
Ryan and Amir have also started a side project known as Julien-K, with a much more electronic focus, and have released a song featuring the vocals of Chester Bennington of Linkin Park on the recent Underworld Evolution soundtrack. They have since formed the project Dead By Sunrise with Bennington. Amir Derakh was immortalised in the Coal Chamber song Amir of the Desert. He produced their debut album. Jay Gordon appeared on the follow up "Chamber Music".
When asked for an Orgy update in late July 2008, Shuck informed fans that Orgy's return is still underway but their priority is getting the much delayed Julien-K album released. During a video interview at the annual Californian NAMM 2009 convention, Derakh mentioned a 2010 Orgy reunion.
On March 30, 2010, through a video to his Julien-K, Dead By Sunrise, and Orgy followers, Shuck informed that there are plans for a tour in 2010. On October 25, 2010, Ryan Shuck and Amir Derakh informed on the Julien-K blog that "As of Oct. 26th we will no longer be part of Orgy. Jay will continue making music without the original members. On October 30, 2010, Jay Gordon released a statement via his official Facebook profile stating that he still owns the Orgy name and wants to continue forth creating new material for the band. Jay wrote that all previous members of the band were too busy with numerous side-projects to continue with the original band.
On November 7, 2011, Blabbermouth.net published a news story detailing the bitter feud between vocalist Gordon and guitarists Shuck and Derakh that has spiraled out of control after Gordon revealing his plans to assemble a band of musicians and begin touring under the name Orgy.
On February 3, 2012, it was announced that Orgy would embark on a five-week run titled the Bad Blood Tour. The new lineup features members of Deadsy, Snot, and Run Run Run. Vocalist Jay Gordon is the only original member of Orgy appearing on this tour; the support acts are the Texas-based One-Eyed Doll Cleveland-based industrial metal band Ventana and Faultline from Richmond, Virginia. The band has reportedly been in the studio in recent weeks recording new material, including a collaboration with Skrillex. This was confirmed after they cancelled the last five shows of their tour.
On August 4, 2012, Orgy linked to a 30 second demo of a new song, "Grime of the Century" via their Twitter and Facebook page.
In 2013, Orgy embarked on the Wide Awake and Dead Tour with Vampires Everywhere! and Davey Suicide.
Social Enemies
Orgy Lyrics
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pretend them to save
cowards, bastards to shame
condemned social slaves
here to save the freaks again you think
and i bet you always will
here to save the freaks
again you think
snakes causing the fate
sadistic and free
traders, defendants behave
lieges stay away from me
saints keep knocking, go home don't sell me mary,
no, no making the crazies well inside you think and i bet you always will
chorus:
calling us no good you are the social enemies
we change the people day to day
making us no good you are the social enemies
changing the people day to day
agitators talking the show
messing with heads to be the number one
smashers battling the hills
proud of yourselves aren't you
making the crazies well inside you think and i bet you always will
chorus
why must we play so bitterly
i'm suffering now the nowhere me
stop trying to say you fell into this place
so tragic you found the nowhere me
here to save the freaks
again you think
here, here to save the freaks
The lyrics to Orgy's "Social Enemies" are a commentary on the societal pressures to conform to social norms and expectations. The song denounces those who use social weapons and pretend to be saviors while really being cowards and bastards who shame and enslave others. The lyrics reflect the common experience of anyone who has felt like an outcast or misfit due to fear of being ostracized by society.
The chorus "calling us no good you are the social enemies, we change the people day to day, making us no good you are the social enemies, changing the people day to day" is an admonition to those who try to force others to fit into societal norms and stifle their individuality. This is accompanied by a sense of empowerment, as the song celebrates those who resist social pressures and try to be true to themselves.
Overall, the song is a critique of the rigid societal structures that often limit us and prevent us from being our true selves. It encourages people to break free from the social enslavement and stand up for their uniqueness.
Line by Line Meaning
Social weapons that miss
The harmful tactics used by society to control and oppress certain individuals/groups often fail to achieve their desired results.
pretend them to save
These social weapons are often disguised as protective measures, but in reality they are meant to maintain the status quo and uphold oppressive systems.
cowards, bastards to shame
Those who use these tactics are cowardly and shameful, as they are not willing to confront their own biases and prejudices.
condemned social slaves
The people who are oppressed by these social weapons are forced into a state of slavery where they are unable to break free from the chains of societal expectations.
here to save the freaks again you think
The artist is trying to save those who have been marginalized and ostracized by society, but society perceives them as deviants (freaks) for doing so.
and i bet you always will
The singer is convinced that society will always try to uphold oppressive systems and marginalize those who do not fit the norm.
snakes causing the fate
Those who uphold oppressive systems are like snakes who are responsible for the misfortunes of those who are marginalized and oppressed.
sadistic and free
Those who use these tactics do so out of a sense of pleasure and enjoyment, and feel free to do so without any consequences.
traders, defendants behave
Those who use these tactics are like traders and defendants who are trying to protect their own interests and avoid any blame or responsibility.
lieges stay away from me
The artist is asking those who benefit from oppressive systems to stay away from them and not interfere with their efforts to save those who are marginalized.
saints keep knocking, go home don't sell me mary,
The singer is telling those who claim to be saints (i.e. those who uphold oppressive systems and try to save the marginalized through religious rhetoric) to leave them alone and stop trying to convince them through religious arguments.
no, no making the crazies well inside you think and i bet you always will
The artist is telling those who use harmful tactics to try and cure those who are marginalized of their 'craziness' that their efforts are futile and they will always continue their oppressive ways.
calling us no good you are the social enemies
Those who call the marginalized 'no good' are in fact the ones who are causing harm and are the true enemies of society.
we change the people day to day
The singer and those like them are trying to effect change in society every day by empowering those who are marginalized and disempowering those who uphold oppressive systems.
making us no good you are the social enemies
Those who try to make the marginalized seem 'no good' are the ones who are causing harm and upholding oppressive systems.
changing the people day to day
The artist and those like them are trying to change societal views and attitudes towards marginalized groups by empowering them and making them more visible in society on a daily basis.
agitators talking the show
Those who are trying to create social change are often perceived as troublemakers (agitators) by those who uphold oppressive systems.
messing with heads to be the number one
The oppressors often engage in gaslighting and psychological manipulation to maintain their position of power in society and remain 'number one.'
smashers battling the hills
Those who try to effect social change are often met with resistance (smashers) from those who uphold oppressive systems (hills).
proud of yourselves aren't you
Those who uphold oppressive systems are often proud of their achievements in maintaining their position of power in society, despite the harm they are causing.
why must we play so bitterly
The artist is asking why society has to be so divided and hostile towards those who are marginalized, and why there cannot be more empathy and compassion towards them.
i'm suffering now the nowhere me
The artist is expressing their own personal pain and suffering as a result of being marginalized by society.
stop trying to say you fell into this place
The singer is asking society to stop blaming those who are marginalized for their own misfortunes and acknowledge that systemic oppression is responsible for their condition.
so tragic you found the nowhere me
The artist is expressing their own sense of tragedy at having been forced into a state of nowhere-ness by society's oppressive systems.
here to save the freaks
The singer is reasserting their commitment to saving those who are marginalized by society and standing up to oppressive systems.
Lyrics © Warner Chappell Music, Inc.
Written by: JOSH ABRAHAM, AMIR DERAKH, JAY GORDON, BOBBY HEWITT, RYAN SHUCK, TROY VANLEEUWEN, JOSHUA ABRAHAM
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@camidise6630
Awe, I use to fall asleep listening to this cd. In high school. The good ol’ days
@Wading4Time
Forgot how good this and shitttt... the entire album is.
@lindseyshanks3444
Love this band, ah nostalgia
@JB-mm5ff
it is through the heart that man escapes mathematics.
@gothsteeze
Here To Save The Freaks Again!
@mariaanast276
Still love this album.
@INFLUENCEtheband
Such a Great album!
@Whoisthiskid1
Rats by Jerma would go perfect over this
@ccruz78731
Popped the comment cherry
@jesselpayne36
Here to save the freaks (me)!!