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Thalia Rice

Hm. We don't focus on killing and eradicating life on this planet. Not in the slightest is that our goal, is it? Most humans are not psychopaths that enjoy killing others. After all, what biological use would a wish to kill every other living being have? Humans would destroy their habitat and eventually die out themselves. Therefore, the wish to kill is not naturally rooted in our biology, as it would be senseless as hell.

Rather, our goal is to be pleasured, that's what every slightly intelligent creature's goal is. Because biologically speaking, pleasure means that the things that caused the pleasure are good for us, necessary to survive or just important as they elongate our life or raise its quality.

And that's what destroys this planet. Our wish to be pleasured all the time to the maximum. We want to be positively stimulated by things that are fun. We want to be healthy. We want to eat satisfying amounts of food. We want to reproduce or not reproduce in the way we want it. Basically, we want to be free and autonomous and enjoy good amounts prosperity. And that is normal! It's what kept animals alive for millions of years. Because pleasure means survival and as pleasure is extremely hard to come by in nature, striving for it as hard as you can doesn't harm others in an extraordinarily big way.

However, in our modern time...it now does. Because we have adjusted to our expectancies regarding pleasure. And the reason why we could do this is our intelligence. Today, things that pleasure us have become very complex over time. Mostly due to social evolvement and social norms and overall development. We have reached a state where fullfillment of basic needs is not even enough anymore. We are only pleasure if we own a computer, if we can check facebook, instagram and whatsapp every 10 minutes, if we can decide freely where our next vacation will take us and if we will eat a litre of ice cream and a steak for dinner or nothing at all. So the real problem is not that we want to feel pleasured, it's also not that we want to kill or something.

It's our wish for maximum prosperity and freedom, combined with ignorance regarding the consequences of our actions. We all know flying a plane to Bali and having a vacation there is bad for the environment. We also know that producing and buying steak, bananas and coconut oil will increase the CO2 emission majorly and other humans and animals will suffer from it. We also know that buying a new phone and laptop, clothes and shoes every half a year is not necessary and caters to global warming and other humans being paid shitty loans for their work. We even know that reproducing is the worst idea any human can have because in Asia there are 4,5 billion people that already overpopulate and destroy this world and we sure as hell don't need more humans. Most of us still continue all of this, though. Because it simply feels good. It pleasures us, as our standards regarding pleasure have become abnormally high.

So what we have to change is not our inner nature. We just have to develop some rationality and discipline. But this will hardly every happen. Our society is what it is and you can't change an entire society and its customs just like that. People would have to be intrinsically motivated to change. But why should they do that? Everything they do feels good and there is no reason to change. And that's why we continue to fuck up our world. Killing other humans and animals is just the unlucky byproduct of other humans fullfilling their abnormally high standards of prosperity and pleasure.


Yes, it is a Eucharistic hymn with which I'm well familiar from Catholic church services.
"Hail, true Body,
Born of the Virgin Mary,
Who having suffered, was sacrificed
On the cross for mankind,
Whose pierced side
Flowed with water and blood:
May it be for us a foretaste [of Heaven]
In the test of death."
(The true Body for Catholics, of course, is the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharistic species - bread & wine).
I'm used to hearing this on a much smaller, more intimate, scale.
I love Leonard Bernstein - I'm one of the generation that watched his Young People's Concerts on television when I was a young person! I also love Mozart - I've been to his birthplace in Salzburg.
But I have to say I find this version too slow. And I don't think a large orchestra and chorus help - it's just too big. And over-indulgent, I think. Mozart was not a Romantic composer, he was a Classical composer who composed for much smaller ensembles. It's just my opinion, though - it's still an excellent interpretation of a great piece of music.

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Mozart died six months after composing this music. - December 1791.
Leonard Bernstein died six months after this concert - October 1990.

Lorenzo Torres

Buenas noches:una música exquisitamente maravillosa,inspirada por alguien,que poseía el don de una gran sensibilidad espiritual,detectada ydesarrollads,en un.alto grado.Realmente maravillosa.Lorenzo

Little Wolf Taima

I guess Hans Zimmer got off lucky





Amparo Guardiola

Ha! I am 62 now, too, and sang it multiple times in different churches with the German School Choir I was part of, which was really, really very good!

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Betty Ann German

This was filmed six months before his death (October 1990).  I had the opportunity to sing under his direction in London in 1989 and I can tell you he was a director who did not need grand arm gestures to get what he wanted from a choir - a few eyebrows raises, and quiet hand movements were all he needed.  His sensitivity and interpretation of sacred music which was not his own was simply amazing, as seen in this video.

Denny Smith

What a sweet memory to share, Betty. Thank you, I understand your meaning when you describe his navigation of music “not his own,” but my own experience from childhood calls into scrutiny those things of our “own” identifying creed or culture. I grew up Catholic before Kennedy’s election neutralized some of the still-intense anti-Catholic sentiment in America. We were permitted by Rome to sing only the music of Catholic composers, like Franck, Mozart, Verdi, Dvorak and Faure. Imagine my consternation upon going to college for a music degree and feeling both ridiculously possessive of Mozart yet shamefully unfamiliar with Bach, Handel and Brahms! So for the rest of my life, I’ve insisted that art belongs to the world, to the history of all humanity. The great Andalusian humanist Ibn Rusd and Persian physician Ibn Sina and Arab scientist Al Haithm are my heroes as much as they belong to Islam. And Mozart, Free Mason that he probably was, certainly was never Roman Catholic “territory.” He belongs to any Jewish or Japanese musician as much as to anyone.
Now that I’ve asserted my ecumenical cred, I have to say I’m wistfully more at ease singing in Latin than in German or English. And I groan when Anglo-Saxon, Germanic or Nordic people pronounce Latin. Tacitus would be pulling his hair out.



Andrea Jurado

Tienes razon

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