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Bert vd L

44w

There are several reasons why in Ukraine's couldn't and can't sign a peace deal with Russia:

Russian Demands: Russia's official demands are extensive, for Ukrainian neutrality between Russia and the West, recognition of Russian sovereignty over Crimea, and acknowledgement of the independence of separatist regions in Eastern Ukraine. Russia's actual territorial ambitions go beyond these official demands, as it appears to aim for a continuous stretch of land from Crimea to Russia, including the majority of the Donbas region and almost all of Ukraine's Black Sea coastline.

Ukrainian Resistance: Ukraine's leadership, under President Zelenskyy, has its own reasons to resist compromise. Zelenskyy's popularity increased due to his strong stance against Russian aggression. The feasibility of him maintaining this support while making concessions to Russia is uncertain. Moreover, his legal ability to meet even Russia's least controversial demands, such as giving up NATO membership, is in question, as this aspiration is enshrined in Ukraine's constitution and would require significant parliamentary support to change. Zelenskyy has also stated that any peace agreement would need to be ratified by a nationwide referendum. In a recent poll, a majority of Ukrainians indicated they were not ready to accept Russian sovereignty over the Donbas or give up the right to pursue NATO membership, even if it meant an immediate end to the war.

Security Guarantees: Ukraine has signaled its willingness to commit to neutrality, but only if it receives security guarantees from other nations. If Ukraine is to give up any military alliance with the West, it requires protection against further Russian aggression. Ukraine would trade its potential NATO membership for security guarantees equivalent to NATO membership, which would compel countries like the U.S. to defend Ukraine in case of a Russian invasion. Western officials have shown reluctance to agree to such a commitment, considering it a "huge undertaking".

Especially considering the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances, which was signed in 1994 by Ukraine, Russia, the US, and the UK. The issue is obviously the Russian started a war in Ukrainian Donbas region and Crimea to "protect Russian speakers" in 2014 a new agreement would need to have very strong guarantees against future Russian imperialist wars and Putin's ambition to restore Sovjet Union borders.

Russia provided security assurances to Ukraine in the Budapest Memorandum . The key points of the memorandum: 1 Respect for Ukrainian independence and sovereignty within its existing borders. 2. Refrain from the threat or use of force against Ukraine. 3. Refrain from using economic pressure on Ukraine in order to influence its politics. 4. Seek immediate United Nations Security Council action if nuclear weapons are used against Ukraine. 5. Refrain from the use of nuclear arms against Ukraine. 6. Sanctions and Territorial Concessions: Any peace deal is likely to involve lifting sanctions on Russia.

If Russia and Ukraine are open to a peace agreement and Ukraine gives up territory European countries, especially former Sovjet Union victims are very reluctant to end their economic pressure on Russia. The legitimate concern is that if Russia gains anything from the war, its ambition for expansion will only increase, making the idea of aiding Russia's reconstruction through the normalization of trade a difficult proposition for many countries.

Also consider the public opinion of Ukrainians, and the trauma's they have because of the Holodomor. The Holodomor was a man-made famine in Soviet Ukraine staring in 1932 that killed millions of Ukrainians. It is considered one of the most devastating events in Ukrainian history, with estimates of the death toll ranging from 3.3 million to 7.5 million people.

The famine occurred as a result of the policies of Joseph Stalin's Soviet government. In an effort to force Ukrainian peasants to join collective farms, the Soviet government requisitioned grain and other food products from rural areas. When the peasants could not meet these unrealistic quotas, the authorities confiscated all remaining food, leaving the population to starve.

Bert vd L

44w

Western countries cannot force Ukraine to surrender for "peace":

Respect for Sovereignty: The principle of national sovereignty is a cornerstone of international relations. This means that each country has the right to govern itself, free from external interference. The West forcing Ukraine to surrender would be a clear violation of this principle.
Western countries generally promote democratic values, including the right of people to determine their own futures. Forcing a democratic country like Ukraine to surrender to an invading force would contradict these values.
Public opinion in many Western countries supports Ukraine and opposes Russian aggression. Forcing Ukraine to surrender could lead to significant domestic backlash.

Security Concerns: If Ukraine were to surrender, it would effectively reward Russia for its aggressive actions. This could embolden Russia and other countries to pursue similar tactics, potentially destabilizing the global order and posing security risks to other countries, including those in the West.

Some Western countries have treaty obligations that could come into play. For instance, the Budapest Memorandum of 1994 involved Ukraine giving up its nuclear weapons in exchange for security assurances from the United States, the United Kingdom, and Russia. While this is not a formal defense pact, forcing Ukraine to surrender could be seen as violating the spirit of these assurances.

A forced surrender could result in further suffering for the Ukrainian people, including potential human rights abuses. Many Western countries have expressed a commitment to preventing such outcomes.

It's also worth noting that the idea of "peace" in this context could be misleading. If Ukraine were forced to surrender, it might lead to a cessation of active conflict, but it would not necessarily result in a just or lasting peace. It could lead to a variety of negative outcomes, including resistance movements, human rights abuses, and long-term instability.

Bert vd L

44w

Ukrainian resentment towards Russia and the former Soviet Union isn't solely based on the Holodomor. There are several other historical events and systemic issues that have contributed to these feelings:

1. **Deportations and Repressions**: During the era of the Soviet Union, many Ukrainians were subjected to repressions, including mass deportations. For example, the Crimean Tatars, an ethnic minority in Ukraine, were forcibly deported from Crimea to Central Asia in 1944 by Stalin, an event known as the Sürgünlik. It was only in the late 1980s that they were able to return to their homeland.

2. **Russification**: The policy of Russification, aimed at assimilating non-Russian communities, led to a suppression of the Ukrainian language and culture. Russian was enforced as the language of official business and education, and many Ukrainians were coerced to adopt Russian customs, contributing to a cultural erosion.

3. **Chernobyl Disaster**: The 1986 Chernobyl nuclear disaster is another source of resentment. The initial Soviet response was marked by secrecy and misinformation, which endangered many lives. The long-term health and environmental effects have had a lasting impact on Ukraine.

4. **Crimea Annexation**: More recently, Russia's annexation of Crimea in 2014 has deepened Ukrainian resentment. This move, widely condemned by the international community, was seen as a violation of Ukraine's sovereignty.

5. **War in Donbas**: The ongoing conflict in Eastern Ukraine, initiated in 2014, has resulted in thousands of deaths and displacement of people. This conflict was triggered by pro-Russian separatists, and the Ukrainian government and many Western countries accuse Russia of providing support to these separatists, further fuelling resentment.

6. **Political Interference**: Perceptions of Russian interference in Ukraine's politics have also contributed to these feelings. Many Ukrainians are frustrated by what they see as attempts by Russia to influence their country's political direction and maintain a degree of control over Ukraine.

These events have left deep scars on the Ukrainian national consciousness and continue to shape Ukraine's relationship with Russia.

Bert vd L

44w

Ukrainians' resentment towards Russia and the Soviet Union isn't just about the Holodomor. There are other historical events and issues that have contributed:

Deportations and Repressions: Lots of Ukrainians were subjected to repressions, including mass deportations, during the Soviet era. Like the Crimean Tatars who were forcibly deported from Crimea to Central Asia in 1944 by Stalin.

Russification policies under the Soviet Union, whichenforced policies aimed at assimilating non-Russian communities, which led to suppression of the Ukrainian language and culture.

Chernobyl Disaster: The 1986 Chernobyl nuclear disaster and the Soviet Union's initial response of secrecy and misinformation still resonate today.

Political Interference: Many Ukrainians are frustrated by what they perceive as Russia's attempts to influence their country's political direction.

These events have left deep scars on Ukraine's people.

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John

44w↑15

So why did Bennett say there was no deal and he was in the process of trying to negotiate one? Bennett claimed he thought there was a 50 percent chance he could have reached a deal if he continued, so if there was no deal according to Bennett what did Putin sign?

Singularity

44w↑5

In the meeting he had with African leaders, he described the exact terminology for the agreement that was being finalized.

John

44w↑3

So if the agreement was a draft that wasn’t finalized how could he sign it? No one signs a contract that isn’t a final document both sides have agreed upon.

So why are you saying the exact same thing I did, there wasn’t an agreement since nothing was final and therefore there was nothing to sign.

AdamESD

44w↑7

@JohnPutin didn’t say it was signed. He said it was initialed. They were still working out the final details when, he says, the Ukrainians suddenly backed out of the deal altogether.

jernej tojersu

44w↑1

@AdamESD He said the delegation signed it.

AdamESD

44w↑1

@jernej tojersu OK, I went through the video again and here is what I found. At 1:05 the translation of Putin says that it is “initialed.” Then at 1:10 he says that “the signature is there” but in the context he seems to be saying that it’s the Ukrainian delegation’s signature. I don’t think he mentions his signature. Through maybe the translation is not perfect.

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Deez

44w↑76

I remember Boris going there and at the time it was told to stop a deal

Moon Shine

44w↑4

It’s funny how easily you believe Russian propaganda. If it’s a good deal, why won’t he reveal it?

50 Pence

44w↑5

@Moon Shine of you believe Boris. You're totally crazy

WeAreIt

44w↑4

@Moon Shine
It funny how every news agency reported he traveled to Ukraine
Weird how he also traveled to TX

The faster the US falls the better

E T

44w↑2

@Moon Shineliteral reports everywhere but US media. Looks like you’re media intake is obvious

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Andre Vachon

44w↑129

Is there supposed to be a problem from our getting information from all sources? Or are we supposed to apologize because we ignore the ban on all Russian news outlets? Hmmm

Avarnus

44w↑20

Even if US or Europe ban all Russian news outlet, we are still getting from Middle east, India and South East Asia new outlet. The interesting things is why in other media, there is no report of it.

Zach Dave

44w↑13

From Stalin Jr.’s actual mouth and you think it’s all legit. You’ve chosen your side. The red side.

Ivanna Jerkov

44w↑20

@Zach Dave There are no "sides" when the end result is nuclear war, bruv.

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goldenphoenixpublish

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The peace plan (as articulated by Fiona Hill?) sounds suspiciously like the way things will most probably turn out in the future. The question then becomes, "Will we finally see an end to bloody, destructive aggression?" Will the world finally see an end to war as the "final political solution" to international politics? Can we please begin to address the kind of environmental issues that really place humanity in peril?

abcdef bcdefg

44w

hehehehehe

2001abassodyssey

44w

The "final political solution" is an apt comparison, as there has been a "Russian question" in Anglosphere/Western foreign policy starting at about the same time as Hitler's "Jewish question." It goes back to Victoria's marriage and the Crimean War for the UK, and remember that American unregulated hypercapitalism was at its peak in the Lochner Era right when Bolshevism swept Russia. For 150 years, the US-UK conventional wisdom in foreign policy has been that the chief obstacle to a global Anglo-hegemony was Russia, for its expansive territory in Eurasia. The aggressive policies after the fall of the USSR were an attempt to put a nail in what they thought was the coffin, and a "final political solution" in favor of a long-held ambition. Therefore, your idea of a "final political solution" that allows the world to address the environmental issues (my ideal as well) is only possible 1) if that ambition is abandoned; or 2) if that ambition is achieved. Unfortunately for Anglosphere ambitions, their fears metastasized when they mistakenly thought integrating China into the WTO would be a second version of the unequal treaties....

goldenphoenixpublish

44w

@2001abassodyssey Very thoughtful commentary. However, not sure about buying into any environmental resolution coming from outcome 2 (above). Any economic system largely depends on natural exploitation. Should world-wide hegemonic power be achieved by any country, or block of countries, or even the world as a unit, the tendency would remain to continue short-term natural exploitation over long-term sustainability. Why? Largely because those at the top AND those at the bottom (who vest them with power to rule) continue to look at their feet, and not at the (event-ual) horizon...

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Halligan Language Solutions

44w↑14

The only problem with that deal, is you can literally watch videos with your own eyes that Russia did not just want Donna's, Luhansk, and Crimea, they also wanted zaporizhis and Kherson. How do I know this is? THEY RAN REFERENDUMS IN KHERSON AND ZAPORIZHIA TO MAKE THEM PARTS OF RUSSIA

Monty Alb

44w↑5

The order of events is important. Those referendums were run well after negotiations fell apart.

This would just indicate Russia lost faith in any negotiation and decided to secure Crimea by military means. Holding Crimea is impossible without the east bank of Kherson and a Zhaporizhia buffer around the Russian shipping lanes (and Crimean bridge) through the Azov Sea.

It is why the leaked Ukrainian offensive plans show the first large arrows should reach the Azov.

Timothy Woodard

44w

@montyalb8788 Russia agreed to uphold ukraines 1991 borders in the Budapest memorandum (in exchange for ukraine giving up 5,000 nukes). We can see how seriously russia takes peace deals from that

Iron Hammer

44w↑1

@Timothy Woodard Was Ukraine joining NATO a part of the 1991 Budapest memorandum?

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50 Pence

44w↑22

The one thing that is clear - Boris would do anything that would serve himself.

Jerad `Blazek

44w

Boris wasn't serving himself, he was just acting as a delegate for western hegemony, or more precisely, the USA.

50 Pence

44w

@Jerad `Blazek I totally agree with your last points

Rebel mango

44w

No the one thing clear is you believe lies

Rebel mango

44w

@Jerad `Blazekwhat evidence do you have of this

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Bernard M

44w↑24

The fear of these two of being called Putin puppets just fills and ruins the atmosphere of the entire segment. So uncomfortable 😅

Satyajit Tulasidas

44w↑34

If this peace deal had gone through then all of those deaths would have been prevented

Michael Wilkins

44w↑10

There was no peace deal, there was no peace from Russia, that is the problem.

Sean Palermo

44w↑12

A peace deal that gives away parts of Ukraine isn't a peace agreement at all.

Faisal Bilal

44w↑4

NATO doesn’t want the war to end. The revenue from the weapons sales is holding their economy intact. It all comes down to money.

Michael Wilkins

44w↑3

@Faisal Bilal They are giving the arms away it doesn't help the economy at all. It might help specific arms companies if they get new contracts. Think about it for a second.

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Striker163

44w↑11

Eh we still don’t really know the details of what these discussions entailed. “Peace” could be construed as “surrender.” Especially with territorial concessions involved to a state that violated a number of security guarantees around Ukrainian sovereignty. Seems like Ukraine was already motivated to fight regardless. Like the Ukrainian army was already mobilized, armed, and fighting to defend their home from a foreign invasion by then. Not to mention it was around the time the Bucha news came out and all the blatant shelling campaigns on civilian infrastructure had been clearly identified. 2 months prior the west was panicking and telling Zelensky we’d evacuate him. It was the Ukrainians who turned that around. Because they picked up guns and started fighting, and kept fighting. Also there was not one named Ukrainian official in that Pravda article that was actually sourced. And no Turkish officials have confirmed nor denied anything when they were the ones that’s hosted. Not to mention no one has released any of these documents which almost makes it seem like this shit in Istanbul is probably pretty mundane in reality, but it serves propaganda benefits for varying political interests of all sides. Ofc I could be wrong, and this shit could come out tomorrow. We’ll see.

Robby Jones

44w↑3

I agree with Sagar that is what is going to happen. The sad part is that we have had every opertunity to weild that and use that to our advantage even if it is just for show. Now it will be nothing special beyond the end of the war with the US gaining nothing.

This is assuming Nato dose not ignite a war or push Russia to use Nuclear Missles.

We must also take into account the part that Ukraine played in trade and how it would be best for them and us if they began rebuilding as soon as possible.

K Anders

44w

We haven’t helped a country rebuild since Korea. Which makes me think very little will be built. Maybe a couple power plants. And Ukraine made deals with our billionaire corporations to strip their citizens of labor rights in their laws, whoever is left to work there after the war..

Music

44w↑5

NATO isn't at fault for anything Russia does in any circumstance. Also why should the US gain anything? This is about Ukraine and Russia not the US.

Bob Winters

44w↑2

Saagar is wrong. The "deal" he lays out will not happen. Such a deal requires NATO members, the big powers, to guarantee Ukraine. That won't happen. The UK doesn't want to do that. The US doesn't want to do that. Germany doesn't want to do that. Even Poland is only willing to do that if the big members do that. Every member is willing to finance Ukraine's defense, more or less, but none of them is willing to directly put themselves in the firing line.

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Josh Singleton

44w↑31

My hat is off to Ryan, his reporting and analysis has made leaps and bounds since I first started years back👍

William Shaw

44w

The show is so much better without a Krystal Ball.

Gato Grande

44w

He’s still biased but not like Krystal. But they lean left a little too much

Tyler Tass

44w↑1

@Gato Grandeif they weren’t biased and able to think objectively, they probably wouldn’t lean left to begin with. This is better than most in the space so I’ll take it

sherry snyder

44w↑40

It’s not the first negotiations we interfered with! Israel Bennett had negotiated before

Peter Schmidt

44w↑1

Ryan was actually good. I started watching this clip suspiciously, but I was pleasantly surprised.

lmj599

44w↑18

There are too many open questions here to conclude anything from the current reports about this topic. I appreciate the open was Breaking Points has addressed this, much better than other news organisations. A few thoughts: whatever the circumstances of the peace negotiations, their outcome cannot have been adequate for Ukraine. To think otherwise is to believe that Western pressure lead Zelensky and his government and military to enter into a war they did not want; something which I do not believe is either possible or consistent with the events since that date. More likely Zelensky and his government were negotiating a peace deal as a last resort whilst seeking Western backing, and having secured that backing, then followed their preferred course to assert the freedom of Ukraine and throw the invader out of their sovereign territory. Sometimes searching for reasons behind reasons ignores the obvious: there are a lot of Ukrainians willing to fight and die to repel the invasion, and that truth lies behind everything.

Singularity

44w

Then why did more than one of the Ukrainian negotiators get assassinated right as they were about to formalize an agreement with Russia?

RootCrane

44w

@SingularitySource please?

Singularity

44w

@RootCrane Wikipedia "Peace negotiations in the Russian invasion of Ukraine"

March 6th KyivIndependent, TimesofIsrael, etc.

Michael Wilkins

44w

Thank you, this is obviously what went on.

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Lawrence Gillespie

44w

In wartime, it's especially hard to know what's true. At this point, nothing would surprise me.

CinemaPigeon

44w↑21

If this was the case, shouldn't Ukraine and Zelensky be publicly stating "yes, we want peace asap, the west and NATO are forcing us to keep fighting, etc.." So far haven't heard such statements from Ukraine?

Michael Wilkins

44w↑9

Exactly, these claims are stupid.

Justin Cruz

44w↑7

Like zelensky is actually in control.

Sabrina Shahab

44w

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Dennis Williams

44w↑1

Love that you didn't re edit this to remove your stumble.
You just rocked on through.
Helps with believability in a world so distorted with mis, mal & false information hahaha, god bless you guys.

David Taggart

44w↑3

I didn't notice the U.S government had elected officials in Ukraine

Not user

44w

Vote RFK Jr

AyoT7

44w↑21

The Kyiv offensive was a complete disaster losing some of Russias most elite units. I highly doubt they withdrew out of the kindness of their hearts..

AdamESD

44w↑4

Yes, the Russians were playing with a bit of a losing hand at that point. But you could also say that this was the best chance for Ukraine to get the best deal they could. The Ukrainians, with a big push from NATO, said no deal, and now they’re in a much worse situation.

(Although to be fair, the war did give Ukraine recognition around the world they didn’t have at the time. Is this worth all the death and destruction? Only the Ukrainians can answer that).

Striker163

44w

@AdamESDyour probably going to get mixed responses but with a common denominator of “fuck Russia”

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Kevin Robb

44w↑8

If its real then surely the smart move would have been to show it before invading then he could have said we were left no other choice

Thomas Frederick

44w↑8

This alleged deal was reached after the invasion…

Mojrim ibn Harb

44w

This was after the invasion.

Michael Wilkins

44w↑1

There is always a choice. Russia did not need to invade, only a warmonger would say so.

Mojrim ibn Harb

44w

@Michael Wilkins All state are "warmongers" in the end.

flashrob01

44w↑2

Thank you for sharing this. So important to hear both sides of any issue, including this one.

sean759

44w↑43

0:06 that fact that you have to start with this sort of disclaimer speals volumes of how toxic the propaganda in the MSM has become to report basic facts.

curtisalex456

44w↑8

Exactly!!!!
He is completely scarred and then talks about censoring in Russia.

Drew Zimmerman

44w↑3

Censorship in America. Outlawed Dissent in Russia.

Shitty situation for everyone trying to learn just the facts and make up our own minds

Carlos Samuel

44w↑2

Right? If the other side are as unreasonable as we purport them to be, it should be easy to let people hear what they have to say, then point out their flaws in their reasoning. If you instead don't allow that, then it only suggests the opposite.

Daniel BDF

44w↑3

@Drew Zimmermanyoureally think the "censorship" you face here in the US is the same as it is in Russia? OK then 😂😂

Drew Zimmerman

44w↑3

@Daniel BDF censorship and outlawed dissent are not the same thing so no

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ManWithoutACountry

44w↑49

He also said it was just military exercises before the war.... 🤨

RC

44w↑11

Yeah, this "treaty" was probably an agreement that Russia gets Crimea and Eastern Ukraine.

Jay

44w↑6

@RC If ukraine signed that deal, why is nato cancelling it?????

RC

44w↑2

@Jay Fair question. We still don't know if it's true though.

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mikharju

44w↑8

That is probably the best propaganda stunt I have seen from Russia. "We withdrew from Kiev as a gesture of good will. Then we were heinously betrayed." Of course no Turkish person hosting the talks is coming forward to verify that such a deal was indeed signed. Now it isn't impossible that it was signed without any knowledge of anyone else than the Ukrainian and Russian negotiators themselves, but it is a bit weird to keep it a secret at the time of signing.

Striker163

44w

I suspect that whatever was done in Istanbul was ultimately kind of mundane. And both sides had already committed to their positions prior, and maybe just agreed to do this for formalities simply to improve the optics. Now it’s just mentioned for propaganda purposes.

2001abassodyssey

44w

Not weird at all. International deals are not publicized until every single loose end has been tied up. Would you publish on social media that you got a job or bought a house before you actually signed the contract? I can understand confusion about why it's coming out exactly at this moment--that's open to speculation The most charitable theory, to balance out your least-charitable theory, is that Putin is hoping to prime less hawkish elements in the West who have grown tired of the war, should the Ukrainian counteroffensive fail dramatically enough to prompt renewed receptivity to negotiations. The Turks, as NATO members and especially in the interest of preserving their status as a neutral third party arbiter, absolutely cannot afford to come forward, as that would signal to everyone that they are willing to betray confidences--so lack of corroboration from a Turkish source should not be weighed as evidence against the veracity of the deal, at least in the court of public opinion. Now I don't doubt that Putin is given to exaggeration and does not always negotiate in good faith; that's obvious. The Ukrainians are equally guilty of this, as the documents obtained by Breaking Points, which have been acknowledged in implicitly as authentic and reliable by the Pentagon itself, demonstrate. If the Ukrainians will betray their U.S. patrons and go back on understandings and agreements with those who fund them, no doubt they might to the same with Russia, if they thought it were in their interest or if a certain more warlike domestic faction gained sway and sought to crash the deal.

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Laura Bailey

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I don't know why the little false start made me laugh so much "Let me just pretend... 3, 2, 1..." 😂

Tony Arechiga

44w

Hahaha yeah

Matthew C

44w↑9

Looks like the editor pretended to edit it

Laura Bailey

44w↑1

@Matthew C 🤣😂

Jayden Garrett

44w↑2

it's b/c it's humility. Human error happens. I guarantee the editor was supposed to cut that out hence the restart 3 2 1. But, the editor made a human error as well & forgot. lol Small errors like this make it seem authentic.

Bert vd L

44w

Will Hudson

44w↑30

If this were 2003 these guys would be like "well Powell did say that sadam had yellow cake... Shouldn't we get information from all sides?"

some dude online

44w↑2

sorry mate, it's a signed document and it was shown to the african delegation, it's an us showing pictures missiles in cuba at the un moment.

Padge Vounder

44w

@some dude online then it should be released to the public so everyone can see and verify it

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Aaron Day

44w

Sad state that news has to have so many disclaimers.

Joshua Whitman

44w↑16

Yeah except a lot of the demands we’ve seen from Putin are a full demilitarization (unacceptable) annexing the Donbas and Luhansk and Crimea (debatable), but also if it was over just those territories why were Russian troops in Kyiv and then got pushed out because they didn’t secure supply lines. It never was about those territories as imperialism, this was supposed to be a 3 day war they claimed.

Random Person

44w↑12

The whole "3 days to take over Kiev" schtick came from General Milley, not the Russians.

Robby Jones

44w↑1

May I ask why it is unacceptable for demilatarization in Dunbas. As I understand the situation the Dunbas region wanted to rejoin Russia but Russia initalily refused before a civil war broke out over that region. Now after the war began it wants that part back. So please help me understand the unacceptability part.

Singularity

44w↑7

Ukraine won't be a country by next year if the strategies the US is using there continue.

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Blackout

44w↑1

"There is no profit in peace."

Tom Fennesy

44w

Usually that is how it goes. The way to avoid the war that neither would accept is the answer to ending the conflict. War of Spanish sucession.

juandeldiablo696

44w↑11

I really don’t understand what was Putin thinking when he attack Ukraine 🇺🇦

Cath' J J

44w↑3

Go listen to Vlad Wexler - he has some pretty good intuitions.

juandeldiablo696

44w↑2

@Cath' J J ok I’ll give him a try

E T

44w

That’s Interesting. You seem open to learn those reasons but you’re media Intake has prevented them from reaching you.

Medusa's Lair

44w↑5

You'll learn that from real journalists like Chris Hedges, Aaron Mate and John Pilger for example.

AdamESD

44w↑5

He was thinking that Ukraine, which had been part of the Russian empire and later part of the Soviet Union, was being turned into a huge NATO base to be used against Russia, and that he wasn’t going to let that happen.

I’m not saying I agree with him. I’m only saying that’s what he was thinking. It’s pretty well documented. He even wrote a long paper about it.

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Spencer

44w↑3

This is like the old adage about lawyers the only ones winning in court. Sub in 'weapon dealers' and 'war'.

Terence Porter

44w↑6

Clearly Putin has never heard the story about the boy who cried wolf.

nolongerblocked

44w↑37

"..withdrew troops from Kiev.."

If by "withdrew" he meant "had his ass handed to him militarily" then yes... he withdrew, minus his shattered & destroyed armored units

Mr. V

44w↑9

Putin created the world's biggest traffic jam.

Those soldiers next to Kiev with their heavy equipment ran out of fuel and food very quickly.

They had to retreat in shame.

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Joshua Ball

44w

The former Warsaw pact can form their own alliance as a means to protect Ukraine.

Vahid Farsi

44w↑2

And BTW, at the time, Mars 2022, the head of Ukraine delegation confirmed it, saying: It was our own plan we had signed, so we had the full right to withdraw it!

AdamK

44w↑1

NATO cannot veto a peace deal between Ukraine and Russia. NATO couldn't even veto a peace deal between a NATO country and Russia.

Scotty D.

44w

Yeah because Putin has proved himself so trustworthy 😂🙄

Nathan Ashmore

44w↑1

Putin also said his new hypersonic missile was unstoppable... how did that turn out for him.

hjimenez26

44w↑2

Accurate, they haven't been stopped.

Timothy McCloskey

44w↑2

Thank you for the news. Thank you for changing the sign off. It's good to see real news and not election coverage.

Love you guys

Charisma Hornum-Fries

44w

You trust Russian state media? Wow.

LikwidFoX

44w↑2

Keep us updated on Xi's brokered Peace deal in the Middle East. If Jarred couldn't do it Xi definitely can.

Gale Martin

44w↑2

Dude if you have to say you are not doing something....then you doing that something. It's like when people say no disrespect that means they're about to say something disrespectful. 😂😂😂

Michael Wilkins

44w↑1

Exactly, he knows what he is doing but he can’t do it straight.

Sabrina Shahab

44w

It is a fact . Ukraine at that time even have the capacity to attack the withdrawing Russian army. So why should Russia withdraw . So Russia withdraws based on understanding and Ukraine calls it victory.

cqtaylor

44w↑9

"Let's trust the word of a guy who's been in power for over 20 years." 🤨

rsiow2

44w↑5

Why would he lie to the face of the African delegation and also mention Turkey’s president in the same breath? Wouldn’t that be very easily verified since he must have let the delegation look at the draft

boo2457

44w↑3

Biden has been in political office for 48 years now.. just sayin no cap

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Caleb Reynolds

44w

Love sagar self editing and it getting left in lol

Conscious Co

44w

It's unusual for this to be done to Europeans in this century, but it's par for the course in most of the world. This is what the rich countries do. They don't value the lives of poor country citizens. This benefits NATO for just the cost of weapons. Ukraine pays in blood.

Duston Gann

44w

It’s been confirmed through turkey saager. If you’ve honestly been following this war, you would’ve known this happened last year as it occurred.

Brian Mlambo

44w↑11

Of course when a lunatic is strangling you , its fair if you trick him to allow a breathing space so that you can fighting back. Kudos to Ukraine for outsmarting the Russians at every turn

some dude online

44w↑8

and because of that ukraine lost 2 more oblasts and hundreds on thousands of ukranian young men have died.

so smart...

Singularity

44w↑1

US has had its tentacles around Ukraine since Regan, and they're dying for wealthy Westerners. Smdh.

VR

44w

lol UA is done...

boo2457

44w↑1

EU admitted in Sept of 2022 that Ukraine has at least 100k+ KIA. Sept. of 2022.

Padge Vounder

44w↑1

@some dude online what should they have done instead, surrender to be entirely annihilated by Russia?

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enwaille

44w↑1

Timeline of events does not match with the reporting... Johnson visited Ukraine on Apr 10th to promise anti-tank ammunitions and economic support. The russian troops were long gone before that from the kiev region...

Bert vd L

44w

danny Raj

44w

The United States millitary industrial complex needs more blankets and pillows

Narendra B

44w

Spring 2022 Ukraine was in a weak position. And may have settled for an unjust peace

Bert vd L

44w

Sam Ziserson

44w↑2

Possible Putin is lieing? No way! ;)

Dannyboy Wonder

44w↑2

It troubles me to see less than a million followers, the shadow band on this site is next level

Gene M

44w

Hey , I didn't see these documents published in very democratic and free Ukraine.
Putin's comment said United States always breaching contracts and Ukraine did same , also Putin said that Zelensky made a law to banned for president of Ukraine any talks with Russia. It's tru, you can check with Ukrainian legislation.
Looks like Russia has to talk to United States, but US willing to sacrifice Ukrainians as much as needed.

Jacob Underwood

44w

Are all the Breaking Points clips just Saagar, now? YouTube is only showing me his bits and this is 'block the channel' worthy coverage for me at this point.

David Ambroladze

44w↑1

The deal sounds like hand over your bag and we will stop beating you. Also you can’t call the cops afterwards but you can hire private bodyguards. What a deal😂

Bert vd L

44w

Rebel mango

44w↑1

Can't we be honest once in our life "According to multiple former senior U.S. officials we spoke with, in April 2022, Russian and Ukrainian negotiators appeared to have tentatively agreed on the outlines of a negotiated interim settlement: Russia would withdraw to its position on February 23, when it controlled part of the Donbas region and all of Crimea, and in exchange, Ukraine would promise not to seek NATO membership and instead receive security guarantees from a number of countries. But as Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov stated in a July interview with his country’s state media, this compromise is no longer an option. Even giving Russia all of the Donbas is not enough. “Now the geography is different,” Lavrov asserted, in describing Russia’s short-term military aims. “It’s also Kherson and the Zaporizhzhya regions and a number of other territories.” The goal is not negotiation, but Ukrainian capitulation." Where's the admission the UK halted anything telling Ukraine hey Russia cant's be trusted isn't preventing them from a deal do you know what an outline is Russia was agaisnt security guerantees both sides disputrd iver details something mentioned in the Ukraine articles maybe read the Fiona Hill piece you'll know simething abput Russia instead if being an idiot so yes yiu are cherry picking and misrepresenting Johnson made multiple trips before and after this so him simply going proves nothing. I can't believe we still haven't fugured out Putin lies clueless much. Ryan is such a tool he just told us a fairy tail how do you know this ascuf you were there with nothing to back it up it's just conspiracy theories the Israeli PM said Bucha was a roadblock why do we keep lying

Matt Statton

44w

Why negotiate if they can just win.

chris mcmanaman

44w

Thank you Ryan for being the adult in the room and clarifying. Saagar is getting really shady…

Davorin Ruševljan

44w↑17

you need to choose if you are pushing narative that Ukraine is dragging nato into conflict by its hawkishness, or west is prohibiting Ukraine from signing of peace deal.

Harrison Curtis

44w↑5

its not their job to take a side and show a bias, but to present the facts for us to make our own informed decisions. Otherwise they would be no different from the MSM

Davorin Ruševljan

44w↑1

@Harrison Curtis yeah, it is just that their bias against helping Ukraine is so apparent - whatever they might spin against helping Ukraine they will, including totally opposite stories like once that war is raging because of Kiev thirst for war and US dragged into it, to the west has forbidden Kiev to agree to peace deal.

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MR G

44w↑2

If anyone's interested, Richard Medhurst had much better coverage of this and related topics despite being a one man operation. He's better researched, more up to date, provides better background, and generally seems to understand international policy better than BP

Platon Aristocles

44w

Release the document? Dude it's publicly available! Don't wait until the WSJ hands it to you.

Chris Johnson

44w↑2

Love this duo

SunnynPhilly

44w↑2

Bro show 👍

markzeusmusic

44w↑1

Two words. Minsk agreements.

danielr82

44w

Those the ones where Russia was meant to withdraw their military support from the Donbass but never did?

The Engineer

44w↑1

Oh wow. Talk about breaking news.

chris anschau

44w↑1

I like crystal, I honestly do. But she is definitely the lowest tier journalist a breaking points you can always see her bias unknowingly shine through.
Ryan and sagar ar op and I think the other girls name is Emily, she’s switched on

Michael Wilkins

44w

Saager’s bias on Ukraine is brutal, how is that “switched on”?

chris anschau

44w

His “bias” really isn’t that bias if you look at both stories of the situation, even if he does get a little bit on the personal side, it’s nowhere to the extent of Krystal

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James Sanford

44w

They did my boy Sagar dirty by not editing out that "I'll pretend 321"

nolongerblocked

44w↑35

I find it odd how this channel always finds every scrap of media that shines a remotely positive light on Russia... while simultaneously calling Zelensky corrupt & complaining "oh the money" everytime someone helps Ukraine with arms. It's almost like you've got an agenda or narrative you're trying to push... surely not.. and don't call my Shirley

Vamsavardhana Vijay

44w↑2

Who is shirley?

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Rich In Vancouver

44w↑10

Hang on. Ukraine already had security agreements “of understanding” that proved to be useless so why would Ukraine agree to do that all over again?

sherry snyder

44w↑6

😂😂😂Ukraine didn’t follow the Minsk agreement’s and bombed the Donbas region for 9 year’s. Do some research

Rich In Vancouver

44w↑3

@sherry snyder Your reply is incorrect and packed with bias. "By January 2015, the Minsk Protocol ceasefire had completely collapsed. Following the separatist victory at Donetsk International Airport in defiance of the Protocol, DPR spokesman Eduard Basurin said that "the Minsk Memorandum will not be considered in the form it was adopted" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minsk_agreements#:~:text=overturn%22%20the%20decree.-,Collapse,the%20form%20it%20was%20adopted%22.

sherry snyder

44w

@Rich In Vancouver Wikipedia 🤣 I’ve been following this

Rich In Vancouver

44w↑2

@sherry snyder Good. Hopefully you are also reading it.

sherry snyder

44w

@Rich In Vancouver I’ll read it but I have years of research. If you had followed you would have seen even CNN talking about how terrible Ukraine is in 2014.

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Joshua Paul

44w↑4

After the latest debacle Zelenskyy supervisors told him not to use Challengers and Leopard 2A6s in the offensive. It was too embarrassing. Zelenskyy managed to waste hundreds of tanks (including cutting-edge German Leopard 2A6s) and hundreds of armored vehicles (including Bradley) along with thousands of hapless Ukrainian conscripts (in the first 14 days 9 600 Ukrainian conscripts were slaughtered) on the mine fields, hit by Russian artillery or anti-tank missiles without even getting to the first main line of Russian defense. Adding insult to injury Russians captured Leopard 2A6 and Bradley. Ukrainian army has always been poorly led and marred by political interference and pervasive corruption, but now when it lost almost all experienced soldiers every Zelenskyy operation turns into a wholesale slaughter of Ukrainian conscripts like in Bakhmut. Bakhmut was a slaughter which was entirely Zelenskyy folly as Stalingrad was entirely Hitler's folly. Zelenskyy just for media hype wasted on average 500 troops daily (total tally was at least 51 000 KIA) in Bakhmut meat grinder even when all escape routes came under Russian fire control and this debacle turned into a sheer slaughter of Ukrainian troops.

Morgan

44w↑1

The Destruction in Ukraine is horrendous. The leading political party in Taiwan wants talks with China about integration.
Having seen the destruction in Ukraine, they want a different future for Taiwan

No name

44w↑1

Or not.

Michael Wilkins

44w

The DPP? They support defacto independence.

Sanguine Sophrosyne

44w↑1

ATACMS to Ukraine! 🗽 ❤

Bob Winters

44w↑17

Hang on. Grim says, to paraphrase, "the UK and US refused to sign the deal because the deal required them to give Ukraine security guarantees". And this is supposed to be nefarious and awful? Really? Would Grim sign that deal? A deal which forces the US and UK to send soldiers to Ukraine if Russia invades? Would he have trusted that Putin wouldn't have attempted to test that commitment? How did the Minsk Accords work out? Does he know about the early months of the Donbas War? There were many broken "deals" during that period. Not even including the Budapest Memorandum. Does he want the US to be required by treaty to intervene directly, with troops on the ground, in a conflict between Russia and Ukraine? Johnson was absolutely correct to tell the Ukrainians that the UK would not sign such a deal. Claiming the Westerners were all just a bunch of bloodthirsty maniacs completely ignores the requirements any potential deal that was discussed at that time.

Tetrahedragon2

44w↑2

This really needs to be upvoted.

RootCrane

44w↑1

Exactly. This show is hella biased in its coverage and the news they select - its very clesr they're pushing a message in the same way mainstream media does sometimes (which Breaking Points criticizes lol)

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rich24h

44w↑3

Nice try pushing the Russian line.

Julia Lerner

44w

Erdogan should be able to confirm or deny the authenticity of the document.

Greg Brance

44w↑15

So are we back to the claim that the attacking force trying to take Kyiv early in the war was a peace delegation and they only withdrew because of Russian goodwill?

some dude online

44w↑2

they showed the receipts of withdrawing out of good will.

Michael Wilkins

44w

@some dude online What receipts? The mutilated bodies in Bucha?

some dude online

44w

@Michael Wilkins the receipts in bucha would be the bucha's mayor not saying anything about dead bodies when the russians left and ukranian security forces saying they "cleansing collaborators and saboteurs"...

for leaving kiev as an act of good will they the russians had the peace agreement the ukranians were agreeing to in april.

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Petya G

44w

Russians started withdrawing from Kiev, then Butcha happens, then ,"stop all deals "

K Anders

44w↑1

We haven’t helped rebuild a country since Japan & Korea. How much are you betting we will actually build? A couple power plants maybe. Also, part of our “Deal” with Ukraine is they have been stripped of labor rights in their laws so that our companies can roll in and exploit their remaining work force.

michael wallden

44w

U will not do anything

Ryan

44w

Rebuild means privatise everything and hand billions if not trillions to Blackrock, JP Morgan and Vanguard

The killing joke

44w↑21

yeah he also said that they destroyed Abrams tanks that haven't even made it into Ukraine yet

Geometer FPV

44w↑9

But this thing about the peace deal matches with reporting from our side

Daniel BDF

44w↑1

@Geometer FPVit's very deceptive. Be careful

canon fodder

44w

@Geometer FPV every good lie starts with an ounce of truth.

Navit

44w

What doesn't that have to do with the peace deal?

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Neon Charge

44w↑2

Your core audience must be really smart. So smart. Super smart.

ChidiMarvels

44w

Lollllll. They clearly are not.

Hot Take

44w↑1

Bojo condemned millions of Ukr men to death. What a scamp! 🤣

Bluehawk2008

44w↑1

Ya just wanna ruffle his hair, the little goofus.

psyadam

44w↑24

They're so many layers of questionable claims (by Putin) in this clip it's hard to take it seriously

hjimenez26

44w↑2

Everyone in the damn world knew about this. The Duran covered this in detail when it happened.

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philsdon

44w↑1

This is not new. It's decades old. As a part of the deal to end the Soviet Union, Ukraine was guaranteed to be neutral, a buffer against the aggressions of Nato. Ukraine flirted with Nato, Russia stepped in.

Teddy McGillicuddy

44w

what deal was that?

philsdon

44w

@Teddy McGillicuddy Look it up in the National Security Archive. Key words: Gorbachev Nato Ukraine. Most heads of every nation in Europe signed on. Ukraine was to be the bulwark against Nato expansion.

Michael Wilkins

44w↑1

@philsdonThings like this are written in treaties or they aren’t anything. Russia, UK, and the US did guarantee Ukrainian territorial integrity in treaties but no mention of NATO was made. Name the treaty.

Teddy McGillicuddy

44w

@philsdon I thought you were talking about formal treaties and agreements. You’re referring to real (and imagined) promises made by the Reagan admin.

Countries, including Russia, know that verbal promises by one US administration are often meaningless in the next admin. There is no written formal treaty or agreement that subjugates Ukraine (and its sovereignty) to be a buffer state forevermore.

Furthermore, this misguided notion misunderstands how NATO works; as a treaty between equal members, not something the U.S. alone can control/make promises for.

None of the assurances of non-expansion were included in any treaty documents, as NATO makes clear in its official explanation on its website: “NATO allies take decisions by consensus and these are recorded. There is no record of any such decision having been taken by NATO. Personal assurances, from NATO leaders, cannot replace alliance consensus and do not constitute a formal NATO agreement”.

SportsNumber1

44w↑6

Hahaha, Saagar doing Translation for Putin😂😂😂 Kiev don’t have to release any document. The Kremlin should since they have it. I suspect the said document simply contains the demands that Putin tabled to Zelenskyy not what any of the parties agreed to. He is now using it for propaganda.

Michael Wilkins

44w

Exactly, if there was a peace deal why no peace? Why was Russia attacking? Why was Ukraine fighting back? Ridiculous on the face of it.

A Little Loopie

44w

Sad. I wondered what had happened at the time, but I didn't actually pursue more information, mostly because I don't trust most sources anymore and figured I wouldn't necessarily find out any truths. I still don't know what the real truth is. I know only that I am very much against what is happening there and how it has been mishandled.

lmj599

44w↑2

Probably Ukraine was seeking Western support while negotiating as a last resort. When they got Western support, they did what they wanted to do all along - fight to regain their territory and repel an invader. Think about it; most countries would fight until they could fight no more rather than accept someone annexing large parts of their territory.

Michael Wilkins

44w

@lmj599 This is the truth.

VogtTD

44w↑22

Press F to doubt.

Who Ever

44w↑1

I am inclined to believe Putin in this case, especially in light of the previous reporting about this deal. The new information is that the deal was signed by both sides and it does explain why Russia stopped advancing on Kyiv. Ukraine still should have kept to the terms of this deal even if we didn't agree to back them with security guarantees. I think that the deal was that Russia wouldn't continue the fight if countries like the US gave Ukraine a security guarantee, not that this had to happen in order for the deal to happen. Ukraine chose to continue fighting and we ought to withdraw our support of that fighting immediately. I'm personally not in favor of any more people on either side dying when they could have had peace literally last year!

Lanzer

44w

I also believe that Russia would like to end the war, the question is what's in the terms of the peace treaty? Russia probably want to own eastern Ukraine to save face, and that's a pill Ukraine is unlikely to swallow, given that they had already lost Crimea. With all the foreign aid pouring in, Ukraine has little reason to say "please stop sending us money and weapons".

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Simon Mitchell

44w↑5

Putin's words coming out of Saager's mouth. Again.

TK McClone

44w↑1

Why don't they cover the Saudis and CCP as fairly as they cover the Putin regime?

Babajide K

44w↑3

Why didn’t you guys update the Dam explosion after the NYT article dropped when you ran out here to tell us maybe Ukraine did it.

Same with the pipeline explosion.

I don’t mind the initial coverage but you guys repeatedly fail at updating the story and it seems a bit skewed against the Ukrainians which I don’t understand why.

Michael Wilkins

44w↑1

Seems? They are bizarrely close to a Russian propaganda channel.

RubyEye

44w↑3

Why would anyone believe anything Putin says?

Simon ious

44w↑3

Boris Johnston literally went to Ukraine to stop the peace deal. This is common knowledge!!

Tesla In the hood

44w↑1

Didn’t Ukraine have a security guarantee when they let go of its nukes ? 🤔 didn’t stop Putin 🤷🏽‍♂️

PCTotty

44w↑3

4:46 This is exactly the issue and it will be the fault of western powers for Ukraine's losses. Crimea want's to be Russian and was historically, before the Soviet Union gave it away. The Donbas voted for independence after their culture was outlawed by the Ukrainian government. Now both will wind up as part of Russia, instead of having an independent buffer state that has interest on both sides.

yugytomm

44w↑4

Crimea voted to be a part of Ukraine & the Donbas vote happened under Russian military occupation & Russian culture was never outlawed.

PCTotty

44w

@yugytomm Eight years before Russia invaded the region, but potayto potahto

Drew Zimmerman

44w

@yugytomm that's a weak argument. I'm sure it works on people who havent researched this war extensively and past wars, and UN charter but none the less weak argument.

1. Past referendums dont dismiss new ones

2. We had Kfor forces in Kosovo when they unilaterally declared independence from Serbia.

Trust me I've went down that arguement and thought about it from both sides and played devils advocate on it. You either gotta support egalitarian self determination globally which I do or support the current UN Charter of territorial integrity which all countries say they do but dont.

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