Problems
Evolution Lyrics


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!D! Haha yo, why would you even say that? You know I…
24hrs 24hrs Twelve AM in Atlanta (Let's have a party, Project X) …
44phantom Oh, God, I ain't nothin' to see My eyes red, feel…
45ACIDBABIES It′s- been way- too long Lover- thought she were at wrong Wh…
47stillstanding I got some problems with me That I can′t tell you…
50 Carrot & Coffi I got a Problem Woah I got a problem Can you help me solve…
99 Smoke in the air, rolling up vibes Bitches play fair, fuck…
A Lister daskid is fresh get your hands up ooooo are you ready do it …
A$Ap Rocky / Drake / 2 Chainz / Kendrick Lamar I love bad bitches that's my fuckin' problem (problem) And y…
A$AP Rocky Ft. Drake Kendrick Lamar & 2 Chainz I love bad bitches that's my fuckin' problem (Problem) And …
A-PINKS We so distant that I see your past self Smoking on…
A. Pinks They always care They always mind It's all something to them…
A.C. & Terra Problems on her mind and never talks about it Never fucking…
A.L.A X El Castro I just wanna go to the party be a problem Try…
A.S. ØNE I got a problem saying no Also got a problem saying fuck…
A.Z. If you're having girl problems I feel bad for you…
Above & Beyond I'm sorry, I sold your records For money, I'll take a…
Acito I have some problems And I have some problems And Ain'…
ADAM O It′s Adam O, oh The Cool Breeze man them How yuh mean? De…
Addivt Level I need my Prada, my guala, guala Uh, shit ain't going…
Against Me! An inventory has been taken of every belonging And there's s…
Alano Adan Yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Tell me what's the problem…
Alex Konchar You got your problems And I got mine We can sort it…
Ali Morgan (Yeah, yeah, yeah) (Yeah, yeah, yeah) I tend to say things …
Alice Donut You've got problems when you squirrel You've got problems w…
Alla- G Matthew 7:3-4 "And why worry about a spec in your friends…
Alter Me Escape is my destiny and that can't be changed So I'll…
Anne-Marie I think being in love with you is bad for…
Antagonizers ATL You’re always complaining About the things you have to do M…
Antiscion You use your problems As a weapon against others I'll tak…
Ariana Granda feat Iggy Azalea I'll be the bad guy if that makes you happy Don't…
Arrah and the Ferns I want to put all of my pain in a…
Art Fact Problems have to be this way or else they will…
As One I got a problem saying no Also got a problem saying fuck…
As One feat. Jinadu Don't get it fucked up Don't get it fucked up You know…
Ashley I'm sorry to my younger self, who said sorry too…
Ashxs I been runnin from my problems Can't take all the shit…
Astonish I feel like I'm psychopath Hun, what? Bitch When I'm countin…
Atlantic Thrills I killed all my problems let them drown in their…
AZ Now dig You got, rich niggas right They do what they wanna…
Az Izz AZ Yeah Now dig You got, rich niggas right They do…
AZ The Visualiza [Chorus] I had some problems And no one could seem to solv…
B. Russ Never knew life threw this many, I been through the…
b.bone You spit on my face and now I can't see…
B.G. I'm coming out I'm coming I'm coming out I'm coming Now, wh…
B.G. Feat. Mannie Fresh Now, who's hot, who not? Tell me who rock, who sell…
B.o.B Don't get it fucked up Don't get it fucked up You know…
Bama & The Family More money more problems but shit I just want some more…
Ben K. Weller I'll be the one to listen to your radio I'll be…
Ben Kweller I'll be the one to listen to your radio I'll be…
Berner More money, more problems More bitches, more bottles More bo…
BIG Naughty 전부 문제 같아-아 정답을 알아도 풀 수 없는 문제 같아-아-아 (G-R, wait a…
Blank Atlas Come on, get in, we're going to Mars And we've all…
Bleeker Oh, throw your problems in the air Like it's someone else's…
Blended Babies Feat Twista and Tech N9ne Bad habits Bad habits Bad Habits Bad habits, Bad habits Pic…
BNZA As we go on Shit comes crashing Like our problems Shit jus h…
Bran Van 3000 I live in a frequency,  Where action rules,  That God is m…
BrxkenBxy More money, more problems, more drugs inside my stomach Even…
Bryce Vine All I see outside is problems I been hidin' in my…
Bukshot AZ Yeah Now dig You got, rich niggas right They do…
Bye Malo You call me And you say you want it I come over I…
Calhoun We get too focused on the problems It's more about the…
CeCe Everything was going alright Until you came and fucked up li…
Cee Lo Green/Ludacris They say Luda would you rather have the money or…
Chief Ft. Jake La Furia & Entics Problem solved It's easier said than done A problem solved R…
CINIMIN Some dudes got problems hit back Some dudes got problems hit…
Claudius & O.R.E.O. [Chorus] The moment when you see that nigga face again Repla…
Co-Star Wasn't ever made for working I was made to play for…
Cod-E I don't (know, know) I, I'm growing numb to being put…
Cody James N/A - Instrumental Cue…
Collins I've got a problem, I say I got a problem I…
Coogie 전부 문제 같아-아 정답을 알아도 풀 수 없는 문제 같아-아-아 (G-R, wait a…
Corby Matt You can take your complications And shove it where the sun…
Cosmo Jarvis Yeah, we got problems of our own And I think that…
Cuuhraig Yeah Can't be stopped No I'm all in I been ballin Shot calli…
CXRPSE Shit is honestly pissing me off Everybody wanna talk cause t…
DAN.K #1 let's address the elephant that's in the room #2 why…
Dani and Lizzy You say this is love but I say that it's…
Daniel Monte I was told when I was young, Don't trust no one I…
Danny Ali Tell me how you settle yo problems Uh I been runnin it…
Danny Rodeck You feel like I’m glancing, while you are dancing But I’m…
Darkovibes She say she wanna come through She come through, she link…
Darla Jade It's useless Try'na get through to you is just useless Takin…
DeathbyRomy I like Coke, but only if you're mixing it with…
Desmond Dekker & The Aces Nigga pop a Perc, better work its like I can’t…
Diamonds & Dynamite ਜੇ ਹੁਣ ਆ ਗਿਆ ਪਸੰਦ ਹੁਣ ਚੱਕ ਨਾ ਤੂੰ ਫੀਲ ਮੇਰੇ…
Direct Shot you are always puting, your problems on my shoulders and…
DJ C.o.d.o. Yeah Perkies got me itch Xannies got me sleepy Rolling up th…
DJ Green Lantern Uh! Uh! Uh! A-Town! A-Town! Yeah! Yeah! LT Moe on this…
DJ Khaled feat. Beanie Sigel & Jadakiss B-Sieg in this motherfucker holla at ya boy, yeahhh Beat Nov…
Dj Smallz & B.o.B Don't get it fucked up Don't get it fucked up You know…
Don Diablo We got problems, but we don't need 'em Don't need to…
Don Diablo JLV & John K We got problems, but we don′t need 'em Don′t need to…
Don-John I got this problem (Problem) I lowkey love a bitch 'fore…
Donte Paris Said she got a problem I ain't here to solve em Issues…
Down and Out A different season But the weather feels the same Were alway…
DPR CREAM How many problems How many problems How many problems you ha…
Dr. Dre feat. Stat Quo Uh! Uh! Uh! A-Town! A-Town! Yeah! Yeah! LT Moe on this…
Dr. Martino No Problem No Problem No Problem No Problem No Problem…
Drew Ryn Ooh wait a minute Oh you don't get it One in a…
Dro All of my hoes got attachment problems Everywhere I go, they…
Duv Black Problems Yea…New Orleans Own..Yea Verse1 Melanate…
Dylan John Thomas The dark and light fills up my eyes babe Your hollow…
E-Rotic I don't (know, know) I, I'm growing numb to being put…
E. Mak Летящих вниз сплошная череда Суетою по графику А вдруг мы ни…
Eazy Mac Problems, Problems, Problems, Problems I smoke dabs 'til my…
EKKSTACY & Trippie Redd Problems Always causing problems You don't know what I've do…
Elias Abbas Ey, jag tror jag har en problem, problem, problem Jag älskar…
Everly Brothers Problems, problems, problems all day long Will my problems w…
Fields Lee Too many problems Oh why am I here I need to be…
Fixupboy Oh, how you feelin' right now You know you can tell…
Fullife I hate myself sometimes Every time I keep my emotions inside…
Future feat. Shawty Lo Five niggas, counted five niggas, all inside of that roller…
G.B.A С меня правда хватит, мне это всё надоело Я в полном…
Grand Khai Went from slinging in the trap Now we dreaming ‘bout plaques…
Gucci Mane & Migos Shooter holding my pistol as I Switch lanes in that Audi Ten…
Gucci Mane & Migos feat. Young Thug Okay okay, so, YSL We're YSL a.k.a. Private Fly Gang you…
Guerilla Maab [Trae] Well it be too many fake people Claiming that they, b…
GVIN Too close for comfort I stay to myself I took my…
HALA I will be here In your body like a (trust?) In all…
Harry Seaton I know I said before I always ask for more My feelings…
Hey Violet I, I got trouble on my mind I, I do this…
hidden war Here I stand looking through dark days An opening revealed, …
Hits So wrong with you It hurts me too I wanna have some…
Homeboy Sandman I went to the free clinic cause I been actin'…
Horace Andy Problems - Don't let them get you down Don't let problem…
HotBoii (Yo, Knock, that's what I'm talkin' 'bout) Cut the fan on…
Iamsu! I think I got a reefer problem I'm pedal to the…
iann dior 'Cause so much time has past now I can't get it…
illkira (I got) (I got) (I got) (I got) I got problems too, oh (Ooo …
ilovememphis If you're having girl problems I feel bad for you…
J. Cole [Ft. Kevin Cossom] No think say God No think say God, woah, oh No think…
J._Cole Have you heard the news that's goin' 'round here? The man…
Jacob Sartorius Problems, I don't want no problems Keep on talkin' sh-, you…
Jadakiss Feat. Beanie Sigel B-Sieg in this motherfucker holla at ya boy, yeahhh Beat Nov…
Jake Daniels V1 - I'm off my rocker I might be a just little…
Jakkah No, I don't See no problem, but you do I coulda made…
James Brown Problems Problems with your girl today Problems Problems…
Jansport Jack See I ain't the one with the problems See I ain't…
Jarryd James We both feel the same We don't feel no pain Pour me…
Jaye Naima Baddie in my new balenciaga Baddie in my new Rihanna set We…
jaywillz So many problmes dey I just wanna live my life Let nobody…
Jim Jones (Jealousy yeah) I'm sorry (oh) (Jealousy yeah) I mean it to…
Jim Jones Feat. Juelz Santana (Jealousy yeah) I'm sorry (oh) (Jealousy yeah) I mean it…
Joe Walsh Hey now, did you make a problem? Didn’t want to solve. Until…
John & Ernest So you're born And you're raised And you're growing But…
Josh! Why you always act like I don’t even exist? If you…
juelz & jeezy What's 99 problems to a boss You know what it gets…
Juelz Santana I'm sorry.... I mean it too... let me talk to you.. knahmsay…
Juelz Santana feat. Lil Wayne & Skull Gang Zaytoven If lovin' me is wrong, I don't wanna be right…
Juelz Santana feat. Lil' Wayne I'm sorry.... I mean it too... let me talk to you.. knahmsay…
Juelz Santana Rabb Feat. Lil’ Wayne (Jealousy yeah) I'm sorry (oh) (Jealousy yeah)I mean it too…
Jupiterkami Yeah I be sipping on this water, Imma be fresh Sipping…
Just Brittany What’s the problem When People throwing shots you Gotta…
k-oth Nemám problém udělat problém Nemám problém vyřešit (Jou) Nem…
K. Sparks I be the cackling captain who happens to be the…
K. Sparks feat. Angelous & Dave Barz Nemám problém udělat problém Nemám problém vyřešit (Jou) Nem…
Kaash Paige "It's like, uh, everything I do It's just like, it's never…
Kalvin In the morning, when you wake up In the afternoon, stay…
Kelon Kyrene ( Grah ) You Don't Want Problems Got Shooters…
Kings Mmmmmm I’m a always cry for you I’m a always die for…
KITCHEN - Sex Pistols Too many problems, oh why am I here? I need to…
KRS‐One I know it's rough out there but you got to Stand…
KVPV Five days ago But I′m still rolling And I think I will…
Kwon Rabbit You really got problems, can't solve them Not me stop callin…
Laffy Припев : У тебя есть выбор , и ты сам решаешь…
Laundry Room Why you talkin' 'bout my problems Like they're your problems…
Lido Petit Biscuit The amount of magnetism's perfect She says she knows just ho…
LiFli So many problems dont wanna solve em I-i-i-i-i Feel like im …
Lil B It feels so good glassface Yea bitch, you need to fuck…
Lil Durk Feat. Jeremih Geraldo Live on the track Yeah Young Jefe, homes GG Forever …
Lil Grayski (Huh, huh, huh) Unfocused visions hoe, unfocused visions (Ha…
LIL PEEP Spent a lot of time in the background I know I…
Lil Wayne feat. Juelz (Jealousy yeah) I'm sorry (oh) (Jealousy yeah)I mean it too…
Lil Wintr Got it on my own with no handouts Getting up too…
Lil' Peep Spent a lot of time in the background I know I…
Lil' Wayne Zaytoven If lovin' me is wrong, I don't wanna be right…
Lil' Wayne Feat. Rabb (Jealousy yeah) I'm sorry (oh) (Jealousy yeah)I mean it too …
Linkin Park If you havin' girl problems I feel bad for you…
Little Simz In a city so wild and cold I just want to…
Local Violence Remember that time I flipped my bike Pulling gravel out of…
Loopy 내겐 문제가 많아 She pour pour hard liquor 난 먹지 않아 Bape Supreme…
Lord Infamous & Jp Green dots Put the lights on me I really like money don't…
Los Kung-Fu Monkeys All these problems and just can't seem to get up and…
Louis Power I can make you mine Let's forget of all our problems Baby…
loveperk Yoooo I dont know man the support yall recently yall…
Ludacris They say Luda would you rather have the money or…
Ludacris Feat. Cee-Lo Green They say "Luda, would you rather have the money or…
Ludacris feat. CeeLo Green They say Luda would you rather have the money or…
LUI◇FRONTiC◆松隈JAPAN 終わらない宿題と 山積みされた問題 早く片付けなくちゃね タイムリミット 来ちゃーう 伝えたいことはたくさんで 言いた…
M. Maggie How can you tell when a habit's formin? Well I kept…
M.C. I wrote this this morning so hopefully I don't mess…
M.X.X Uh I need to shape myself out Shape myself out from loving…
Maniak I've got hodně problems Stejně to furt táhnem Po něčem furt …
Marcus Manchild You know I'm saying nigga, don't understand why What you mea…
Mat Zo feat. Olan I know it feels like you're taking steps backwards But I…
Matt Corby You can take your complications And shove it where the sun…
Matt Maeson I know you got your problems, everybody's got 'em You don't…
Matt Ngesa Frightening All these voices saying things That I just might…
Maxi Priest If you have a problem with your love affair huh …
Megadeth Too many problems, oh why am I here? I need to…
Merkules Goal chasin I feel like I’m going crazy But all this…
Michael A Shawty you’re a problem Shawty you so bad Might just tell yo…
Migos & Gucci Mane Shooter holding my pistol as I Switch lanes in that Audi Ten…
Migos Feat. Young Thug Okay okay, so, YSL We're YSL a.k.a. Private Fly Gang you…
Migos ft. Young Thug Okay okay, so, YSL We're YSL a.k.a. Private Fly Gang you…
Milmine You breathe like a dragon and run away from all…
Mook TBG Uh uh, uh uh uh uh, uh, yeah Huh huh, huh…
moss kena I′m hurting I'm learning how to feel Trying to deep need Wha…
Mother Mother You and me, we're not the same I am a sinner,…
MotherMother You and me, we're not the same I am a sinner,…
Mr. Ed Figadus 4 more times out the coupe we just slide 3 more…
Nasty C Nigga I got problems What you think I’m smoking for? What yo…
Neal Francis They say timing is everything They weren't fucking around Fe…
Next Problems Problems with your girl today Problems Problems wi…
Nivea I won't take no lies, hanging out all night The gig…
No Motiv 1!2!3!4! I'd like to say that I am well off with…
O.U.A Five niggas, counted five niggas, all inside of that roller…
O.V. Yeah Ay' Vanta you ready Lil Flip in the building So it don'…
Odin M Problems, we all got some of them Avoid them, so we…
Ofln - Mother Mother You and me, we're not the same I am a sinner,…
Oliver Céleste Your three words don't mean nothing to me I'm on my…
OT Greens I leave your problems in the past, but you still…
p.a. You ain't safe if you doubted me Gotta squash relativity Com…
P.A.T Nemám problém udělat problém Nemám problém vyřešit (Jou) Nem…
Pak-Man Don’t tell me what I gotta say, don’t tell me…
Papa Roach I could turn my life from a good dream To living…
Petit biscuit The amount of magnetism's perfect She says she knows just ho…
Petit Biscuit feat. Lido The amount of magnetism is perfect She says she knows just…
Petit Biscuit Lido The amount of magnetism's perfect She says she knows just ho…
Pinegrove this is how i spend my life up singin old songs what…
Pitou I might have problems She might be one, but when she…
pmbata I get that money deposit I don't think that I can…
Prada-G С меня правда хватит, мне это всё надоело Я в полном…
Price (Hee, hee, hee, hee, hee) (Welcome to the camp) Got so many…
Push to Talk Yeah you've got problems You wear a fashioned disease You're…
R.A.T.S These streets had made a man out me I ain't have…
R.I.P Lil peep Okay okay, I'm rolling, I'm riding, I'm flexing while I'm…
Rappin' 4-Tay No I can't run, I can't hide from all this…
Rauli V I got so many souvenirs It's like i'm sitting here witnessin…
Ray Vaughn Let 'em light up a square, Billy Jean in the…
Red Dirt Saved the life of my children Walking down your busy roads S…
Ridgio Shorty quit playing imma grown man I see u trippin but…
Robert Randolph & The Family Band When I was a little boy My mama told me To play…
Rosanna Lea Did you make your name, or was it the other…
Russ Never knew life threw this many, I been through the…
S-Class You played the myth and now you're drawing straws You skippe…
S.O.S.A. [Intro: Jaheim] Believe me when I tell ya You don't want t…
Salmonella Dub I am breathing, It is easy, If you can not, Do any greate…
Savvy Ani Problems I can tell you life Is full of problems We bee…
Sayge Takin' my time, smoking my weed, I don't need space,…
Scarface Greatest ever done it, you can learn from it Dope game;…
Scheme Decay and Astonish I feel like I'm psychopath Hun, what? Bitch When I'm countin…
SeX PisTOLs Too many problems, oh why am I here? I need to…
Sex Pistols (Live) Too many problems Oh why am I here I need to be…
Sex Pistols - www.DiscografiadoRock.com Too many problems, oh why am I here? I need to…
shamba Got a lot weighing heavy all on my conscience 99…
Shawty Lo Feat. Future Five niggas, counted five niggas, all inside of that roller…
Sheps Ignoring all the warning signs Troubles in the spotlight but…
Shy Glizzy Geraldo Live on the track Yeah Young Jefe, homes GG Forever …
Six-ti-Six Don't get it fucked up Don't get it fucked up You know…
Skis Going dumb Simple I can't settle for Cocaine on my gums Befo…
SKJ Pas de bruit C'est l'omerta Les balances ils peuvent toujour…
Skull Gang (Jealousy yeah) I'm sorry (oh) (Jealousy yeah)I mean it too …
Snowgoons Yeah, Locksmith, yo My vocal expression leaves A global impr…
SonReal I've met with the angels Danced with the devil in my…
soWAYV WAYV - PROBLEMS HOOK: I got problems and these pills …
sparoxzy Talk about all I got all my money problems that…
Sped-O Matthew 7:3-4 "And why worry about a spec in your friends…
St. Matthew We were tippin em back with some real good friends And…
St. Panther I was stolen by the way you say my name Watched…
Stack Bundles feat. Ransom Oh my gawd Oh My Gawd Yea Yea Yea FTO fuck them opps Problem…
Stalley A nigga got problems Sittin' here, plottin' how to count a…
Stereo The we've got lots of problems we've got the rest of our…
Stitched Up Heart Doesn't matter how fast I go Won't get too far Doesn't matte…
Styles P feat. Sheek Louch & Jadakiss [Chorus] Why can't you be man enough (aha ha ha) To tell…
Styles P. feat. Swizz Beatz Oh yeah, S.P. the Ghost, I'm back Y'all know how…
Sunshine Anderson Mmmm [Verse 1:] The Other day I ran into an old friend…
Sxdtune Hello god Can you help me out Can you fix all of…
T Dot Rolled up 'cause the way that you've been thinking Got me…
T.I. I got a problem saying no Also got a problem saying fuck…
T.I. Feat. B.o.B Mac Boney Problem Trae Tha Truth & Young Dro AZ Yeah Now dig You got, rich niggas right They do…
Takayoshi Waking up in the morning with an attitude Guess I got…
Taysav Gang (NLE) Nigga know what the fuck going on nigga (gang…
The Alchemist Feat. Kool G Rap Look young mister, what's your name The mastermind name is 3…
The Blacks Pull up to your city by committee Gotta gang that's riding…
The Emblem Faction Oh let's take you to a place left in the…
The Everly Brothers Problems, problems, problems all day long Will my problems w…
The Jims Look, yeah... Everybody got problems... Everybody got proble…
The Rosies You think it's funny Open your eyes You want this money To n…
The Sex Pistols Too many problems Oh why am I here I need to be…
The Stereo we've got lots of problems we've got the rest of our…
The Z-Rays If you're having girl problems I feel bad for you…
Tom Grennan You and I Always something in the way of you and…
Tom Odell Music gotta solve my problems Prob-, prob-, prob-, prob-, pr…
Tomazacre I got a lot of problems i got you on my…
Tommy Ice Yeah oh it's Nikilja Oh oh Tommy o-o-o-oooh yeah yeah What …
Tribe Society I′m used to being up when the world sleeps Used to…
Trick Daddy I got a bitch with pearls a bitch teeth with…
Twenty-2-choke Летящих вниз сплошная череда Суетою по графику А вдруг мы ни…
TwinTerror [feat. M-Cellus] How can you tell when a habit's formin? Well I kept…
Twista & Tech N9ne Bad habits Bad habits Bad Habits Bad habits, Bad habits Pic…
Twizzla67 Erzähl mir nix von Problems, ich weiß ganz genau bescheid We…
Tyler B E c'amm vist p cas M Ven a ment o passat T'arricuord…
U.F.K. Dubstep Nie ma tego złego co mi nie wyjdzie na dobre W…
UNEDUKATED Why you coming to me with all your problems You already…
Unlike Pluto I find out in the moment This crowded room is filling…
V. Aura I got so many souvenirs It's like i'm sitting here witnessin…
Walt! You, you, you, you, you You gotta let it show I'm coming…
Waterloo Woke up this morning With the sun in my eyes New day…
We Were Sharks If I can't get you to admit it, we'd be…
Weathers I don't know if I can get out of bed My…
Wiley {Chorus x2} What was that for? Why you taking all your probl…
Will Gittens I gave you time I can't get back I still got…
Yaung Money, diamond, chains, brands, cars, houses, fame, problems…
Young S. Dub Aye, Aye Let's go Let's go Kdub More money more problems The…
Young Thug Okay okay, so, YSL We're YSL a.k.a. Private Fly Gang you…
Young Thug Feat. Migos Okay okay, so, YSL We're YSL a.k.a. Private Fly Gang you…
Young Zee Y'knowwhat I'msaying Get with this tape, my shits the bomb …
Yoza Problems you only give me problems Sick and tired of always…
yung euphoria Aye, who down to kill? I match the chilly ice with…
Ziggy Marley Problems, personal problems, people problems We people got t…
Ziggy Marley And The Melody Makers Problems, personal problems, people problems We people got …
Zimm Seen so much shit I′m still paranoid I get nightmares every…
루피 내겐 문제가 많아 She pour pour hard liquor 난 먹지 않아 Bape Supreme…
서동현 전부 문제 같아-아 정답을 알아도 풀 수 없는 문제 같아-아-아 (G-R, wait a…


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Walking On Fire My fingers burn in the breakdown This part of everything beh…
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West Lands

The philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer supposedly said there are three phases in the revelation of any truth:

1) Firstly, it is ridiculed
2) Secondly, it is resisted
3) Finally, it is accepted as self-evident

Max Planck purportedly said science moves forward one funeral at a time. By his logic, we need some funerals in in the field of evolutionary dogma.

If the quotes are true or not it doesn’t matter, the sentiments however are valid.



W Drew

I don't think any one is trying to say that life arose (a cell for example) eg 'popped into existence' fully assembled with all the complex processes of the cells just already functioning. I would assume that cells with these processes arose...essentially evolved... from previous arrangements of long-chained complex replicating molecules which were themselves descended from earlier simpler self replicating molecules. At least that's what I would envision happening if I were to guess how life may have arisen naturally. A significant amount of serendipity was involved, but none of it happened randomly...all matter and energy acts and reacts in regular ways. Under certain conditions things happen...atoms come together automatically and then under different conditions and in the presence of other molecules they either change into yet other molecules or are degraded/broken down.

A significant number of 'just so' conditions would have likely had to happen in just the proper sequence for long chained molecules to form that could replicate and mutate. That has been demonstrated in a matter of days in laboratories. Then the conditions likely had to change at just the right moments for these simpler molecules to eventually combine and form longer chained, more robust molecules which themselves had to continue...replicating and mutating and passing on those mutations...long enough to form more robust molecules until actual cell like forms evolved. I would assume these 'cooking pots' of 'just so' conditions existed in literally trillions of locations around the early earth...each one with slightly varying conditions for slightly varying durations. And with each chemical reaction which may lead to a long chained self replicating molecule occurring in a matter of many times per minute, the 'tries' would be almost infinite and this would be going on for 100s of millions of years before the first 'just right' set of conditions resulted in a robust enough complex molecule to call it...life.

Then, lets add another factor. The puzzle seems to be 'how could life arise and evolve to sentience' in the time allotted. It's always assumed we can only talk about processes here on earth. But the complex processes needed to achieve this endpoint weren't just happening here on earth, but on trillions of planets throughout the universe. And if it hadn't have happened to occur here, but DID occur somewhere else, then THAT is were beings, like us, would be peering out into space and looking at themselves and saying, how in the world did WE evolve in such a short time on this planet. IOW we'd be them if life arising spontaneously was such a rare event.

The final factor since we're talking about a natural world without a designer. If universes occur cyclically from an eternal natural background, then this universe is just one in essentially an infinite number of universes. So all the above 'attempts' at life would have been going on, essentially forever, such that all those almost infinite attempts described above in THIS universe can be multiplied by, essentially, an infinite number of universes. And when it did finally happen...a whole series of just so conditions coming together to eventually form sentient life...there we'd be...that would be us. So maybe there was time for life....and us to evolve.

Finally, this guy is talking about how complex the cell is and...seems to be saying THIS makes a difference in whether it is likely/possible that life arose naturally. Well, here's a thought experiment. Let's say that life is as we see it now...all the different critters, plants and life forms...all 'existing away', but on closer inspection there are no complex internal components. No matter what any scientist does, how he dissects, how he disembowels, tears apart ANY life form from the smallest bacteria to the largest whale. there is NO...and I mean ZERO complex internal structure. All life looks and acts, moves, flies, eats, sleeps procreates as we see it now, but there is nothing on the inside of ANY of these critters. When dissected, it's a homogeneous gamish of nondescript and unidentifiable 'stuff.' There are no cells, no DNA, no RNA, no complex molecules with 'information' or a program, no organelles...because there are no actual cells except for unicellular organisms and they are all...everyone of them...with NO internal components, etc. Ok, you have the picture? NOW, do you think we'd be imagining that life like THIS was more likely to have evolved naturally than the life as we see it now or would that be an even greater reason to believe life was created by a supernatural creator? IOW, is it really the complexity that leads you to believe life had to have been 'created?'



Dooker Bewitt

So, in this video, this good sir often uses the word "darwinism".
What's that? Is this a thing? And is there also something like Einsteinism? Newtonism? Kepplerism?

1:20
Well... no, it's actually fairly unlike human design. If a person designed something like the genome, he probably wouldn't be a very good designer, given that the genome in pretty much all organisms is quite a mess. It works just fine, but the comparison between human top-down design and the natural bottom-up design of the genome is quite flawed.

1:26
Sure. That's why nobody today believes in it being the result of a "chance-process". It's the result of evolution. We've figured that out over a century ago.

1:35
Sure. You look at it and think it looks like brilliant engineering. I look at it and think it looks like a piece of a ham-chees-sandwich. And these two opinions are on equal ground, until you present any evidence for this engineering or I show evidence for this ham-chees-sandwich.

1:52
I agree. If somebody e.g. believes iiiiiin... let's pull out something random here: A god, then he might be more likely to look at complex natural structures and see intelligent design in it, even though there isn't any there.

2:10
Well... no.
We know that a lot of the genome, at least in most organisms, doesn't have any specific function. There are bits and pieces of useles parts all over the place. That's just what happens when you have something like the DNA that constantly changes and reforms.

2:30
Actually, you misrepresent the scientific view on this "junk-DNA" quite a bit here.
There has never been the claim that junk-DNA is useles, at least as far as I can tell not in the scientific literatur. Some people today think it is, some think it actually does stuff. The concept of "junk DNA" simply referes to DNA that doesn't code for proteins. But I think you will be hard-pressed to find any scientific paper that concludes that all non-coding DNA is junk, in the sense that it is not needed or has no function.

2:45
Well... no. Darwin didn't make this prediction... He didn't know about DNA, so how could he have made this prediction?
And no, the idea that there would be junk-DNA isn't a prediction that fallows from evolution at all. Which is why so many scientists were surprised, when we took apart the genome, because they thought there would be much, much more coding DNA than non-coding.

2:52
Wait... this is again false.
You say that it "turns out not to be correct"...
Has it? We still have more DNA that seems to do nothing and seems to be just junk in our genome, than actually functional DNA. Now, I'm not saying that it IS just junk, but you say that "it becomes clear" that it isn't... and again, this would have to be supported by data. And the data simply isn't there to make this case.

I would have expected more understanding on the subject from an actual biologist...
This is quite poor, Dr. Axe, it really is.



Lopanto Lulu

+Dooker Bewitt 1.) "If a person designed something like the genome, he probably wouldn't be a very good designer, "
I don't know what your standard of a good designer is, because the best designers are pretty much in awe of dna..
“DNA is like a computer program but far, far more ADVANCED than any software ever created.”- Bill Gates
How can someone be a bad designer when he can design something more advanced than what the best designers can conceptualize?


2.)"That's why nobody today believes in it being the result of a "chance-process""

Chance means unintentional. Only a mind can have intent. If evolution is not a "chance process" then it is a guided process...ergo intelligent design by way of evolution.


3.)"There has never been the claim that junk-DNA is useles".."you will be hard-pressed to find any scientific paper that concludes that all non-coding DNA is junk."

Oh really?
"In fact, the human genome is littered with pseudogenes, gene fragments,orphaned genes, junk DNA,
and so many repeated copies of pointless DNA sequences that it cannot
be attributed to anything that resembles intelligent design.(Kenneth R. Miller, Life's Grand Design, Technology Review 97(2):24-32, Feb/Mar 1994).

Why call something that MIGHT be performing a vital function 'junk', and classify it together with 'pointless dna sequences?'

4.) 'junk-DNA isn't a prediction that fallows from evolution at all."

Forget following from evolution, in 2009, leading evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins thought 'junk dna' was extremley powerful proof of Darwinian evolution against intelligent design:

"It stretches even their creative ingenuity to make a convincing reason why an intelligent designer should have created a pseudogene -- a gene that does absolutely nothing and gives every appearance of being a
superannuated version of a gene that used to do something"- Dawkins 2009.

In 2012 when it was found to have a function, Dawkins changed his tune. Suddenly the fact that "junk dna" isnt junk proves evolution

"I have noticed that there are some creationists who are jumping on [the ENCODE results] because they think that's awkward for Darwinism. Quite the contrary it's exactly what a Darwinist would hope for, to find
usefulness in the living world...."-Dawkins 2012.

When "junk dna" is thought to be junk-irrefutable proof of evolution.
When "junk dna" is thought to be NOT junk-irrefutable proof of evolution.



whaym

1. We have records off transitory fossils for animals and around 6000 for humans these fossils are dated hundreds of thousands of years for humans and millions of years for animals
2. We have observed evolution including bacteria for example annual Vaxiens and we have to make our antibiotics stronger for bacteria over time because they evolve
3. We have observed more complex things evolve like insects and small fish and birds what happens? they change overtime
4. Human Embryos have gills on them, and I don’t think humans can breath underwater
5. Human embryos also share similarities with chicken embryos. The look of them are identical. A lot of mammal embryos are very similar to each other also
6. Human height has changed a lot over the course of history in fact humans have gotten around one inch taller from the 1800s to now
7. Humans have also gotten weaker over time and also have gotten way smarter over time. Brain sizes are also shrinking (skull sizes are smaller)
8. Humans and chimps share a lot of the same social structures. They both have traditions and rituals. Chimps might have religions the evidence is a bit iffy though
9. The similarities with all animals. A lot of animals share of similar structures and most animals have very similar dna structures



Leon Maliniak

LOGICAL ARGUMENTS FOR THE EXISTENCE OF A CREATOR GOD

For those of you struggling with the concept of the existence of a CREATOR GOD and who do not want it rammed down your throat with the BLIND FAITH approach of religious fanatics, perhaps this logical line of reasoning will help you make a more informed decision…one not based solely on blind faith alone but based also on the FACTS and the evidence that we do SEE.

Speaking as a TRIAL LAWYER of thirty years and accustomed to always relying upon the BEST EVIDENCE, and speaking as an experienced ALT medicine researcher, I have studied the arguments for and against the existence of a CREATOR GOD for many years and from the perspective of various scientific disciplines. There will still be some element of BLIND FAITH involved but this opinion is also based on INCONTROVERTIBLE, UNDENIABLE and IRREFUTABLE FACTS.

HERE IS WHAT I MEAN

I have examined the EVIDENCE of the complexity of our magnificent DESIGN OF LIFE, and I see a machine with unlimited capacity for self repair and maintenance and with numerous back-up and FAIL SAFE systems. Our design of life has a HARD DRIVE, a set of detailed programs called DNA and a built in factory which can manufacture materials that we need from scratch.

The “ evolutionists “ want me to believe that this just developed by itself? Are they kidding? Instead, based on my observations, and borrowing an expression from my thirty years as a trial lawyer, I came to the conclusion that;

From the PREPONDERANCE OF PROOF and on the BALANCE OF PROBABILITIES, it is much more LOGICAL to conclude that our DESIGN OF LIFE is the work of a CREATOR GOD or an INTELLIGENT DESIGNER and the product of an INTENTIONAL design rather than just the result of RANDOM chance and the mere passage of time.

For example, when you examine our INNATE IMMUNE SYSTEM, one of TWO such systems that we have, the other being the ADAPTIVE immune system, you learn that it takes on average twenty (20) separate and distinct chronological chemical steps, executed in perfect SEQUENCE, to illicit even one immune response. If a major system, like the LYMPH system fails to eliminate lymph fluid in its normal way, it is backed up by a hidden fail-safe system which we are not even aware of and which will kick in and allows LYMPH to excrete through the skin.

Recently we discovered another program hidden in our DNA which we were unaware of whereby the body cleanses itself of pathogens and even cancer cells when we go through an extended FAST. This has been dubbed AUTOPHAGY, has won a NOBEL prize for its discoverer, and it raises the prospect that there are other such wonderful programs hidden in our machine which GOD has installed into our hard drive and software which only come into play in emergency and special circumstances and which we have yet to discover. This to me confirms the GOD given origins of this prescription in the BIBLE because there is no way our primitive ancestors would have known about this " program". 

Even more recently the researchers at Cardiff University in Whales discovered the existence of what could be a UNIVERSAL marker they called MR-1 which can identify any and all cancer cells in the body no matter which kind they are and an existing killer T-cell which reacts to it… something I have intuitively known had to be part of GOD'S great and complex design and which it was only a matter of time till we discovered it. This system must be working perfectly most of the time otherwise everyone would develop cancer all the time since our environment is so poisoned. We just have to now figure out why in some cases its normal efficiency is interfered with. 

Just look at an anatomy chart of the structure of our MUSCULAR system. You have multiple over-lapping layers of muscles criss-crossing at different levels and at different angles, each pulling in different directions and having a specific action and a role in movement. I want some evolution theorists to explain how the SUPRA-SPINATUS muscle developed according to the principles of conventional  “ evolution theory” and its improvement by inherited MUTATION explanation…it is sheer and utter NONSENSE.

It makes no sense that such a complex DESIGN OF LIFE is merely the result of RANDOM CHANCE. If you said this about any other manifestly magnificent design structure like an automobile… you would be called BRAIN DEAD.

The evolutionists THEORY, which is still an UN-PROVEN theory, is as ridiculous as the argument that if you put a bunch of monkeys in a room with typewriters long enough then eventually, over a long enough period of time they would produce the complete works of SHAKESPEARE !

What do the “evolution” theorists want us to believe? That a bolt of lightening hit a pile of doo-doo four billion years ago…and BINGO…here we are? This is patent NONSENSE and violates plain COMMON SENSE. The MAIN arguments in the theory of EVOLUTION are so fragile that they can be dismissed with numerous arguments but this following simple argument is more than enough;

If EVOLUTION alone explains our existence then how come APES are still swinging in the trees? There is no valid or convincing answer for this FLAGRANT CONTRADICTION within that “ theory ”. Saying that we “ split “ off from a common ancestor would still not explain why the other ape line did not build skyscrapers before we did. As President Johnson once said;

“ You cannot SUCK and BLOW at the same time”.

Either we ‘ evolved’ from the more primitive APES or we did not. The fact that APES still exist or that they did not build skyscrapers before we did…cannot be explained by this theory. There are MANY, many more caveats and exceptions pitched by this unfounded theory of evolution but this is enough by itself to discredit it.

Finally, we are no longer primitive camel drivers or sheep herders and we can accept the possibility and probability that the CREATOR GOD is an actual, real and physical being in whose “ image we were made “, as it says, and not just some imaginary, intangible or mystical entity. 

GOD’S GREAT DESIGN OF LIFE SHOULD NOT BE INTERFERED WITH

One of the main consequences of this perspective about the origins of our design of life being the work of a CREATOR GOD or INTELLIGENT DESIGNER is that mankind should reconsider the way the mainstream medical community deals with catastrophic illnesses and cancer and the constantly newly emerging pathogens like the COVID-19 virus which has baffled the medical community and paralysed the entire planet. The obsession with toxic drugs, burning radiation and slashing surgery is a flagrant and INEFFECTIVE failure. We should consider looking for a new and paradigm shift in the way we deal with these diseases and try to explore new ALTERNATIVE sciences which do not interfere with some of the very elements of this design of life that GOD gave us to protect us and eventually just provide it with a little help it needs to work at its optimal potential.

It is mankind’s divine duty and privilege to try to find better ways to deal with these illnesses and cancer and pathogens, like these new viruses, and stop what I call the WANTON SLAUGHTER of so many of GOD’s children of all ages where millions of people die every year because of the current primitive state of knowledge about this design and methods which interfere with some of the very components of it which GOD gave us to protect us which should be an embarrassment to our medical community.

One such non-intrusive and non-toxic ALT science is that of DR. RAYMOND ROYAL RIFE who back in the 1930’s cured many diseases and killed numerous pathogens and viruses using only RADIO FREQUENCY to destroy them. His methods were proven so obviously effective in a controlled clinical trial at USC in 1934 where he cured 16 out of 16 terminally ill patients, 14 with Cancer and 2 with Tuberculosis, that the A.M.A tried to buy shares in his company. When RIFE refused, the A.M.A. banned his method, and prosecuted doctors using it. Unlike other wild and unproven  “ conspiracy “ theories about suppressed secret CURES, these groups ended up in a COURT battle where all of this evidence is a matter of public record.

Efforts to revive the science of RIFE and his methods have failed to date because they have not EXACTLY duplicated his ORIGINAL work and have not used his original killer frequencies nor the other elements of his treatment protocol. This is what we should be exploring along with various forms of OXYGEN therapy, WHICH have also been proven effective.

I hope that these arguments help some of you to finally resolve this issue and to accept the LOGICAL conclusion of the existence of a CREATOR GOD…and if so, then welcome to the team !



Dave Roberts

Axe, D. 2000. Extreme functional sensitivity to conservative amino acid changes on enzyme exteriors. Journal of Molecular Biology. 301 (3): 585-595.

"Researchers just announced the systematic laboratory induced mutation of successive amino acids over the entire sequence of a simple bacterial protein. The results showed how even the simplest of life's proteins have irreducibly complex chemical structures. The research also showed how random evolutionary processes that are ascribed to mutations are unable to propel evolution."

Axe, D. 2004. Estimating the Prevalence of Protein Sequences Adopting Functional Enzyme Folds. Journal of Molecular Biology. 341:1295-1315

"DNA holds the coded information that cells use to produce proteins, which are ordered chains of amino acids. Three successive nucleotide bases of DNA code for a single amino acid of a protein. Publishing in Nature, researchers successively changed the DNA code of an entire bacterial gene to mutate every amino acid of an 83-amino-acid protein. They then tested the ability of each mutant protein version to interact with its biological target in the cell.


What they proved was that proteins have a variety of specific regions that are highly sensitive to mutation—meaning that changes in these amino acids are not tolerated. Instead, they destroy protein function and negate evolution. These results support the prior research of Douglass Axe, a famous Cambridge protein biochemist who has also mutated large segments of bacterial proteins and is a strong critic of protein evolution and defender of intelligent design principles."

Both of the above quotes come from the following article which, at least partially, bases its pro-ID argument upon Dr.Axe and his work.
https://www.icr.org/article/study-shows-proteins-cannot-evolve



Steve

"Design" is an observable scientific cause, aka, explanation for the structure of a thing.
"Laws of nature" are also observable scientific causes.
Designed things also affected by the laws of nature.
A theory that cannot distinguish between design and natural causes cannot be disproved.
A theory that cannot be disproved is not scientific.
Evolutionary theory lacks the ability to different design from natural causes, ergo, evolution is not disprovable.
Since evolutionary theory is not disprovable it is not scientific.

Every major scientific theory of the 20th Century contains mathematical proofs and predictions while evolutionary theory contains no such mathematical proofs. It is a story about the past that meets the description of a myth more than it does the description of a scientific theory. As a narrative about the past, the theory has no practical application; there's is nothing a scientist can do who accepts the theory that a scientists who rejects the theory cannot do also.



Jonathan Silvestri

i beg to differ. You can absolutely make predictions and observations about organisms placed in certain environments that will adhere to the theory of evolution by natural selection.

Bacteria are a great example because they go through many generations very quickly. If you put a colony of bacteria in an environment with antibiotics, most will die. But the ones with the ability to survive, will survive, and pass on whatever genetic information that helped them survive the antibiotics to future generations. Soon enough, you will have an entire population of bacteria that is resistant to a certain antibiotic.

That is the theory of evolution of natural selection at its core. The example I gave you is testable, and observable, and in fact, has real life implications, as antibiotic resistant bacteria are becoming a huge problem.

You also said that evolution can’t make predictions about the past either which is false. I don’t want to type up an entire explanation here, but just look up intermediary species in the geologic record. An animal that bridges the gap between water and land had to have existed for there to be land dwelling animals, and they’ve found those animals.

Evolution IS falsifiable, but the thing is, there is so much evidence that supports that evolution by natural selection is the best explanation for the emergence of species. Whereas, the case for intelligent design or a creator, is in falsifiable, because if you ever find any evidence that points to the contrary, or fills any gaps in our knowledge about the origin of life, one could just say “yeah because the creator made it happen”. Also the theory of evolution by natural selection makes zero claims about the origin of life, but only how the diversity of species and life on the planet came to be.



B Miller

"Every major scientific theory of the 20th Century contains mathematical proofs and predictions while evolutionary theory contains no such mathematical proofs."

Thankfully, since most Geneticists have zero background in math, Genetics alone proves common ancestry and therefor Evolution to be a FACT.

It's WHY a devout evangelical like Francis Collins said:

"As someone who's had the privilege of leading the human genome project, I've had the opportunity to study our own DNA instruction book at a level of detail that was never really possible before. It's also now been possible to compare our DNA with that of many other species. The evidence supporting the idea that all living things are descended from a common ancestor is truly overwhelming. I would not necessarily wish that to be so, as a Bible-believing Christian. But it is so. It does not serve faith well to try to deny that."

You see, what Collins saw, was that the GENOME of living things, including humans, contains DNA SEQUENCES that are UNIQUE TO THAT SPECIES, AND the SPECIES THAT THEY EVOLVED FROM, proving COMMON ANCESTRY. It's like a form of forensic science PROVING Evolution, in that it proves the relationship between species due to SPECIFIC SEQUENCES OF DNA THEY SHARE --- but that OTHER SPECIES DO NOT HAVE IN THEIR DNA.

This is where the NONSENSE, er, I mean, NON-SCIENCE of evangelical wishful thinkers like you, FAILS MISERABLY.

Here's a fuller explanation of this:

"Evidence of common descent of living organisms has been discovered by scientists researching in a variety of disciplines over many decades, demonstrating that all life on Earth comes from a single ancestor. This forms an important part of the evidence on which evolutionary theory rests, demonstrates that evolution does occur, and illustrates the processes that created Earth's biodiversity. It supports the modern evolutionary synthesis—the current scientific theory that explains how and why life changes over time. Evolutionary biologists document evidence of common descent, all the way back to the last universal common ancestor, by developing testable predictions, testing hypotheses, and constructing theories that illustrate and describe its causes.

Comparison of the DNA genetic sequences of organisms has revealed that organisms that are phylogenetically close have a higher degree of DNA sequence similarity than organisms that are phylogenetically distant . Genetic fragments such as pseudogenes, regions of DNA that are orthologous to a gene in a related organism, but are no longer active and appear to be undergoing a steady process of degeneration from cumulative mutations support common descent alongside the universal biochemical organization and molecular variance patterns found in all organisms.

Additional genetic information conclusively supports the relatedness of life and has allowed scientists (since the discovery of DNA) to develop phylogenetic trees : a construction of organisms evolutionary relatedness . It has also led to the development of molecular clock techniques to date taxon divergence times and to calibrate these with the fossil record."

HERE'S THE KICKER: you are ANYONE ELSE can go STUDY GENETICS and actually SEQUENCE and COMPARE THE GENOMES of living things, and see EXACTLY WHAT FRANCIS COLLINS SAW.

So, please, please, stop BEING AN EMBARRASSMENT TO THE HUMAN RACE... because like the old saying "there are no atheists in foxholes", well ACTUALLY, there are "no geneticists that deny evolution and common descent". Because DOING SO, would be as STUPID as you denying that Exodus 21 SPEAKS OF OWNING HUMAN BEINGS AS PROPERTY TO PASS ON TO YOUR CHILDREN as PART OF GOD'S LAWS. Because it ALWAYS HAS BEEN REALLY STUPID TO DENY WHAT'S AVAILABLE RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR EYES.

If Francis Collins can GET IT, you can TOO.......

Never forget Orgel's 2nd Law: "Evolution is cleverer than you are."



John Revelation

Modern Quantum Physics has shown that reality is based on probability:

A statistical impossibility is defined as “a probability that is so low as to not be worthy of mentioning. Sometimes it is quoted as 1/10^50 although the cutoff is inherently arbitrary. Although not truly impossible the probability is low enough so as to not bear mention in a Rational, Reasonable argument." The probability of finding one particular atom out of all of the atoms in the universe has been estimated to be 1/10^80. The probability of just one (1) functional 150 amino acid protein chain forming by chance is 1/10^164. It has been calculated that the probability of DNA forming by chance is 1/10^119,000. The probability of random chance protein-protein linkages in a cell is 1/10^79,000,000,000. Based on just these three cellular components, it would be far more Rational and Reasonable to conclude that the cell was not formed by un-directed random natural processes. Note: Abiogenesis Hypothesis posits that un-directed random natural processes, i.e. random chance formation, of molecules led to living organisms. Natural selection has no effect on individual atoms and molecules on the micro scale in a prebiotic environment. (*For reference, peptides/proteins can vary in size from 3 amino acid chains to 34,000 amino acid chains. Some scientists consider 300-400 amino acid protein chains to be the average size. There are 42,000,000 protein molecules in just one (1) simple cell, each protein requiring precise assembly. There are approx. 30,000,000,000,000 cells in the human body.)

Of all the physical laws and constants, just the Cosmological Constant alone is tuned to a level of 1/10^120; not to mention the fine-tuning of the Mass-Energy distribution of early universe which is 1/10^10^123. Therefore, in the fine-tuning argument, it would be more Rational and Reasonable to conclude that the multi-verse is not the correct answer. On the other hand, it has been scientifically proven numerous times that Consciousness does indeed collapse the wave function to cause information waves of probability/potentiality to become particle/matter with 1/1 probability. A rational and reasonable person could therefore conclude that the answer is consciousness.

A "Miracle" is considered to be an event with a probability of occurrence of 1/10^6. Abiogenesis, RNA World Hypothesis, and Multiverse would all far, far, far exceed any "Miracle". Yet, these extremely irrational and unreasonable hypotheses are what some of the world’s top scientists ‘must’ believe in because of a prior commitment to a strictly arbitrary, subjective, biased, narrow, limiting, materialistic ideology / worldview.

Every idea, number, concept, thought, theory, mathematical equation, abstraction, qualia, etc. existing within and expressed by anyone is "Immaterial" or "Non-material". The very idea or concept of "Materialism" is an immaterial entity and by it's own definition does not exist. Modern science seems to be stuck in archaic, subjective, biased, incomplete ideologies that have inadequately attempted to define the "nature of reality" or the "reality of nature" for millennia. A Paradigm Shift in ‘Science’ is needed for humanity to advance. A major part of this Science Paradigm Shift would be the formal acknowledgment by the scientific community of the existence of "Immaterial" or "Non-material" entities as verified and confirmed by observation of the universe and discoveries in Quantum Physics.)



Plantae

1:23
And why is it impossible that this scale of information didn’t appear through Chance plus natural selection?
Is the amount and quality of information not determined by natural selection?

Harmful information which occur through mutations die out and beneficial information survive.

Can not even a point mutation be a new information?
Like if you insert one „symbol“ in a word it can gain new meaning like
„as you know“ and „ass you know“ if you insert one symbol it will become an insult and contains the information that you don’t like the person for which the sentence was.

I mean Evolution does not exactly work like in the infinite monkey theorem because it uses natural selection and therefore can accumulate beneficial information.



Leon Maliniak

LOGICAL ARGUMENTS FOR THE EXISTENCE OF A CREATOR GOD

For those of you struggling with the concept of the existence of a CREATOR GOD and who do not want it rammed down your throat with the BLIND FAITH approach of religious fanatics, perhaps this logical line of reasoning will help you make a more informed decision…one not based solely on blind faith alone but based also on the FACTS and the evidence that we do SEE.

Speaking as a TRIAL LAWYER of thirty years and accustomed to always relying upon the BEST EVIDENCE, and speaking as an experienced ALT medicine researcher, I have studied the arguments for and against the existence of a CREATOR GOD for many years and from the perspective of various scientific disciplines. There will still be some element of BLIND FAITH involved but this opinion is also based on INCONTROVERTIBLE, UNDENIABLE and IRREFUTABLE FACTS.

HERE IS WHAT I MEAN

I have examined the EVIDENCE of the complexity of our magnificent DESIGN OF LIFE, and I see a machine with unlimited capacity for self repair and maintenance and with numerous back-up and FAIL SAFE systems. Our design of life has a HARD DRIVE, a set of detailed programs called DNA and a built in factory which can manufacture materials that we need from scratch.

The “ evolutionists “ want me to believe that this just developed by itself? Are they kidding? Instead, based on my observations, and borrowing an expression from my thirty years as a trial lawyer, I came to the conclusion that;

From the PREPONDERANCE OF PROOF and on the BALANCE OF PROBABILITIES, it is much more LOGICAL to conclude that our DESIGN OF LIFE is the work of a CREATOR GOD or an INTELLIGENT DESIGNER and the product of an INTENTIONAL design rather then just the result of RANDOM chance and the mere passage of time.

For example, when you examine our INNATE IMMUNE SYSTEM, one of TWO such systems that we have, the other being the ADAPTIVE immune system, you learn that it takes on average twenty (20) separate and distinct chronological chemical steps, executed in perfect SEQUENCE, to illicit even one immune response. If a major system, like the LYMPH system fails to eliminate lymph fluid in its normal way, it is backed up by a hidden fail-safe system which we are not even aware of and which will kick in and allows LYMPH to excrete through the skin.

Recently we discovered another program hidden in our DNA which we were unaware of whereby the body cleanses itself of pathogens and even cancer cells when we go through an extended FAST. This has been dubbed AUTOPHAGY, has won a NOBEL prize for it’s discoverer, and it raises the prospect that there are other such wonderful programs hidden in our machine which GOD has installed into our hard drive and software which only come into play in emergency and special circumstances and which we have yet to discover.

Just look at an anatomy chart of the structure of our MUSCULAR system. You have multiple over-lapping layers of muscles criss-crossing at different levels and at different angles, each pulling in different directions and having a specific action and a role in movement. I want some evolution theorists to explain how the SUPRA-SPINATUS muscle developed according to the principles of conventional  “ evolution theory”…it is sheer and utter NONSENSE.

It makes no sense that such a complex DESIGN OF LIFE is merely the result of RANDOM CHANCE. If you said this about any other manifestly magnificent design structure… you would be called BRAIN DEAD.

The evolutionists THEORY, which is still an UN-PROVEN theory, is as ridiculous as the argument that if you put a bunch of monkeys in a room with typewriters long enough then eventually, over a long enough period of time they would produce the complete works of SHAKESPEARE !

What do the “evolution” theorists want us to believe? That a bolt of lightening hit a pile of doo-doo four billion years ago…and BINGO…here we are? This is patent NONSENSE and violates plain COMMON SENSE. The MAIN arguments in the theory of EVOLUTION are so fragile that they can be dismissed with numerous arguments but this following simple argument is more than enough;

If EVOLUTION alone explains our existence then how come APES are still swinging in the trees? There is no valid or convincing answer for this FLAGRANT CONTRADICTION within that “ theory ”. Saying that we “ split “ off from a common ancestor would still not explain why the other ape line did not build skyscrapers before we did. As President Johnson once said;

“ You cannot SUCK and BLOW at the same time”.

Either we ‘ evolved’ from the more primitive APES or we did not. The fact that APES still exist or that they did not build skyscrapers before we did…cannot be explained by this theory. There are MANY, many more caveats and exceptions pitched by this unfounded theory of evolution but this is enough by itself to discredit it.

Finally, we are no longer primitive camel drivers or sheep herders and we can accept the possibility and probability that the CREATOR GOD is an actual, real and physical being in whose “ image we were made “, as it says, and not just some imaginary, intangible or mystical entity.

GOD’S GREAT DESIGN OF LIFE SHOULD NOT BE INTERFERED WITH

One of the main consequences of this perspective about the origins of our design of life being the work of a CREATOR GOD or INTELLIGENT DESIGNER is that mankind should reconsider the way the mainstream medical community deals with catastrophic illnesses and cancer and the constantly newly emerging pathogens like the COVID-19 virus which has baffled the medical community and paralysed the entire planet. The obsession with toxic drugs, burning radiation and slashing surgery is a flagrant and INEFFECTIVE failure. We should consider looking for a new and paradigm shift in the way we deal with these diseases and try to explore new ALTERNATIVE sciences which do not interfere with some of the very elements of this design of life that GOD gave us to protect us and eventually just provide it with a little help it needs to work at it’s optimal potential.

It is mankind’s divine duty and privilege to try to find better ways to deal with these illnesses and cancer and pathogens, like these new viruses, and stop what I call the WANTON SLAUGHTER of so many of GOD’s children of all ages where millions of people die every year because of the current primitive state of knowledge about this design and methods which interfere with it, which should be an embarrassment to our medical community.

One such non-intrusive and non-toxic ALT science is that of DR. RAYMOND ROYAL RIFE who back in the 1930’s cured many diseases and killed numerous pathogens and virus using only RADIO FREQUENCY to destroy them. His methods were proven so obviously effective in a controlled clinical trial at USC in 1934 where he cured 16 out of 16 terminally ill patients, 14 with Cancer and 2 with Tuberculosis, that the A.M.A tried to buy shares in his company. When RIFE refused, the A.M.A. banned his method, and prosecuted doctors using it. Unlike other wild and unproven  “ conspiracy “ theories about suppressed secret CURES, these groups ended up in a COURT battle where all of this evidence is a matter of public record.

Efforts to revive the science of RIFE and his methods have failed to date because they have not EXACTLY duplicated his ORIGINAL work and have not used his original killer frequencies nor the other elements of his treatment protocol. This is what we should be exploring along with various forms of OXYGEN therapy, WHICH have also been proven effective.

I hope that these arguments help some of you to finally resolve this issue and to accept the LOGICAL conclusion of the existence of a CREATOR GOD…and if so, then welcome to the team !



Plantae

Most of you arguments could an evolutionist counter through „natural selection“

For example some creationists used the human eye as an example of extreme complexity which could not occur through evolution.

But then evolutionists showed that many different intermediate forms of eyes exist in nature and that the the human eye could evolve through many simple mutations plus natural selection.

Also Evolutionists could explain that modern apes hang on trees because they had different mutations and evolved in a different environment.

Also I don’t understand why the creator need to be a god.

It could also be a being which emerged in another universe or another reality which has different rules like (the complexity of a closed system can’t decrease) or it could be created by another creator or even evolution.



B Miller

@Leon Maliniak Point that "expert" brain at DNA sequences that appear IDENTICAL across ONLY phylogenetically close species...

or, to quote Francis Collins:

"As someone who's had the privilege of leading the human genome project, I've had the opportunity to study our own DNA instruction book at a level of detail that was never really possible before. It's also now been possible to compare our DNA with that of many other species. The evidence supporting the idea that all living things are descended from a common ancestor is truly overwhelming. I would not necessarily wish that to be so, as a Bible-believing Christian. But it is so. It does not serve faith well to try to deny that."

For bonus points, explain GOD'S LOGIC in his "intelligent design" for:

1. The Laryngeal Nerve of the Giraffe
2. 10,000 choking deaths EVERY YEAR in humans
3. The blind spot in human eyes, not present in other eyes

Lastly, for honors, WHICH IS IT? --

a. Did COVID-19 EVOLVE INTO A NEW AND MORE LETHAL FORM TO END UP KILLING MILLIONS AROUND THE WORLD?

b. Did your "god" come out of HIDING long enough to drop off a new virus and KILL A FEW MILLION of his "children"?

WHICH WAS IT?



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Reason Forge

As a software engineer. I design stuff to work on purpose. It would be easy enough to write software that generated random bits, and then attempted to run the bits as code. This could be done trillions of times in short order. But nobody responsible for producing code that works ever uses this method. Evolutionists tell me an unguided process turned a land animal to a whale in a mere million generations or so. I have trouble believing that until I see them at least gene splice a land animal into a whale by hand. How hard should it be if it could happen by dumb luck? Easier than writing code like I do if they are right about it happening in a mere million steps unguided. And yet it is in fact far too hard to do, or even seriously attempt to do, for modern humans. [edited grammar and spelling]

Gabriel Muniz Maximiano Drummond

Look, reality is absolutely enormous. It takes the totality of existence to satisfy these chances we are talking about. We are not talking about a mere million steps, those are the ones we can count and percieve and there are a lot of steps more than that which we can't even access empirically. Moreover, there's a kind of arbitrary selection when it comes to the changes that happen as a consequence of interactions between organisms. The aesthetic primitive mind made symmetry based choices that would narrow the number of possible next steps into the gene pool logic. See?

Gabriel Muniz Maximiano Drummond

More specifically, females and even some portion of males made mating decisions that would basically determine the software and hardware of next generations, expelling the considered bad genes. There is an outside component to evolution, which is basically the environment and all it's past, as well as the physical things, but there's an inner component to evolution which is exactly the symmetry it tends to.

Reason Forge

In software we can write something called a "unit test" where we test the code automatically. This testing can be very very very efficient and quick compared to the ridiculously slow inefficient processes of waiting years and hoping the better mates in the limited animal population are selected or that the marginally better animals somehow happen to tend to be the one that survive. It blows such things out of the water a billion times over in terms of how many selections can be made in short order and in accuracy of which selection is an improvement to be kept. And yet nobody every uses a random bit generator to write code which they then test against the unit tests hoping that generations of such a process will improve the code base. If it worked in nature, it would obviously work way better in software. But nobody is investing in this method in software. The ONLY investment in this method is by those SPECULATING about what happened long ago...people who in fact do not lose anything if they are wrong like those in the business world. Frankly, people who can afford to be wrong, even ridiculously wrong.

Marie India

@Gabriel Muniz Maximiano Drummond in other words, you are saying it's a mystery and you don't know but you don't want to come to the conclusion that the numbers lead to. That's your choice, but stop forcing your fairy tales onto other people who think logically.

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Jay Bonham

It made me smile when I heard Dr. Axe describing the chance that a protein could be created randomly in the movie “Expelled”; Doctor Axe, says it’s one chance in a trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion!! That’s a lot of zeros!!

Gabriel Muniz Maximiano Drummond

And reality is really big. So big it's enough to satisfy even those possibilities. And we know it's possible because we literally see it happening.

Russell ngiele

@Gabriel Muniz Maximiano Drummond oh what did you see ? Have you finally found the lost fossil of the ancestors of all living beings ?

Joe Schmoe

@Gabriel Muniz Maximiano Drummond You obviously haven’t taken the time to do the math. Try doing that first and get back to us.

Marie India

@Gabriel Muniz Maximiano Drummond reality is not that big. This number is bigger than the number of atoms in the universe. Think about it.

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