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String Quartet in G Minor Hob.III:33 : 3. Poco adagio
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Elaine Blackhurst

Nando Troyani
I think Mozart may well have developed the string quintet further had he lived longer, rather than the quartet; the magnificent last four of his six quintets written between 1787 - 1790 would suggest he had already started on this path.
The quintet suited the density of his thought better than the quartet; his six quartets dedicated to Haydn (1782 -1785) written following Haydn’s Opus 33 (1781), took him an unprecedented length of time and trouble, and as he said in the dedication, were the fruits of long hard work.

In contrast, the quartet medium suited Haydn - and later Beethoven - much better.
Mozart found it more challenging, especially with the formidable example of Haydn’s works familiar to him.

As regards Beethoven; whilst some of his earlier works are one-off pieces modelled on individual works - the third piano concerto on Mozart’s 24 for example - there is actually far more of Haydn in Beethoven’s general compositional technique than there is of Mozart.

Motivic development, third related keys, key relationships, disruption of expectations, use of silence, building large musical structures from small cells, fragments and/or motifs, and so forth are Haydnesque and Beethovenian characteristics, not Mozartian ones.

Additionally, Beethoven picked up those areas that had most interested Haydn - symphony, string quartet, and sonata for example, rather than those of Mozart, ie concerto and opera and chamber music other than quartets.
Whilst this is obviously a generalisation and you can point to exceptions, the main point is valid.

In short; both Mozart and Haydn were important to Beethoven, but in very different ways.



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Christoph Bader

Haydn is so goddamn underrated.

the eternal student

@Steve Siegelbaum Between J.S. Bach and The First Viennese School, English-speakers have more than enough musical perfection, until they can create superior brains; we are waiting for medicine to catch up to their music

Concerned One

@Steve Siegelbaum I don’t know how you can say that considering the others all built on what Haydn did.

Mohammed Pasha

I dont know anybody who puts Brahms above Haydn. Haydn was much more important in the development of the symphony and string quartet.

Pepe Haydn

I have mentioned many musical aspecrs apart from historical relevance. Your counter-argument is “sublimity”. Sorry?? I am not a native english speaker so I cannot use the lenguage with flexibility enough to sound ironic, but, however, I can say “sublime” things. So, if Mozar, Bach, Brahms and Beethoven are “sublime”, Haydn is the native speaker in the realm of music.

Elaine Blackhurst

Steve Siegelbaum I get your point, but it rather depends on your definition of sublime!

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James Harris

The 7 bar phrasing is so edgy...

Szczepan Hołyszewski

I totally parse the first 7 bars as a Hungarian folk tune.

QuantumAlt

It sounds cool.

Gabriel Fromyhr

The minuet is gorgeous

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